My Father is in his Family plot in Milltown thanks for showing some of it knowing he's back in Belfast has always been a comfort he absolutely loved the place warts and all .

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Hi DC. Thanks for that. One of reasons I do these walk rounds is to show far away folks all these remembered places. Yes that is a good way of putting it. I too love this wee pace.....warts and all! Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills.

Another great video Tom. We have added this to our list of things to do on our Belfast trip this September. Thanks for sharing.

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks S 5 .56 N. Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills of Northern Ireland.

Very interesting video lots of facts that I would never had imagined 👍

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

KS. Many many thanks for your positive feedback. It is indeed a fascinating place. I only wish I had explored Milltown cemetery years ago. Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills.

Very brave Tom but also a fair disclosure and fantastic walkabout of somewhere that many would feel extremely uncomfortable. Appreciate this share!

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Yes POAIP. I hear what you are saying. I was very careful about what I said and where I went. I stuck rigidly to the documentative style. Milltown is largely known for its Republican associations but as I found, there is so much more to it. I love the hidden history and unknown factor you always stumble across in any graveyard. Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills.

Hello Tom , another gem that would be a very interesting to go around , reminds of Glassnevin they are both so big you almost need a guide to show to you , I am learning so much about the city of Belfast through your videos . The Cramseys mausoleum was interesting there is a big old estate just outside of Ballymoney called O'Harabrook owned by the Cramsey family . Thanks Tom .

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed Shaun, a lot of past and recent history in there!!! Yes I would like to get to see round Glassnevin. This is fascinating about the Cramsey family!

@shaunmckenna1923

Жыл бұрын

@@TomMcClean Yes i did type in Cramseys of Ballymoney and there was stuff, I remember 50 yrs ago when I was up at the house it was a Major Cramsey that lived at the estate a friend of mine had land next to the estate and he also rented grazing from the Cramseys. Its a beautiful old home .

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it is still there? I'll have a wee look online. Thanks again Shaun.

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Check this out Shaun! This guy is good. Lord Belmont is just a name he uses. lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2012/05/oharabrook.html

@shaunmckenna1923

Жыл бұрын

@@TomMcClean Oh that's brilliant and you are able to see a photo of the house it is really a grand home I seem to remember at one time it had 4 driveways coming in N , S , E and W Thanks Tom.

I think Winifred Carneys grave is up those stairs to the left, where you are at the end Tom. Yeah Milltown is a big cemetery. Everytime I walk through it I spot a familiar name on the headstones...

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Yes I spotted quite a few known names, even on my short visit. Thanks for letting me know about Winifred Carney. I would never have found her on my own. Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills.

Well Tom what can one say about this unbelievable cemetery? It's one of the biggest I've ever seen, I dare say that you will be having a revisit at sometime? what amazes me about these places is the large moments that people erect in memory of there loved ones, no expense spared because they won't have been cheap, another great video Tom. By the way it's looking like another Scotland visit is on the books so I'll hopefully get another chance at videoing St Andrews Tower Cemetery at Peebles.

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

Hi chris. I reckon most of those larger headstones etc seen on the way in were erected to bishops and top priests etc. But large monuments etc was the order of the day for rich folk back in the day. There was an idea that if you were wealthy this was one of the ways to display it. Thanks as always for the encouragement Chris! Always appreciated!!! Yes a Peebles video would be very welcome but what about yourself?

I often wonder if those republican and loyalist terrorists that caused so much hurt and suffering to the other communities and their own had simply stopped and thought about what they were going to do. How many would have had second thoughts and stayed in and watched television or gone for a quiet pint, instead of picking up a gun or a bomb and heading out to cause mayhem. So much unnecessary suffering and for what?

@TomMcClean

Жыл бұрын

That's just it CP. They didn't think. They had never met anyone from the other side to find out that they were just like them with mums and dads and brothers and sisters. They were conditioned not to think by all the angry propaganda they were fed from birth. Even when some of them did start thinking they often were in too deep to get out. If they did voice doubts it would be viewed with suspicion by their comrades and they might have been found in a ditch. It was was also only decades later for some of them that the penny dropped and conscience kicked in. Many had developed so far as to have no consciences or consciences that were warped beyond restoration so that all the horror killing somehow was justified. This is what SF preach today. 'We didn't like doing what we did but it was the only way to get what we wanted' -the end justifies the means. I agree, for what. There is a very good argument that the cause of Irish unity would have been a lot further down the road today if there had been no IRA violence.

@northred4930

9 ай бұрын

@@TomMcCleantotal niave rubbish you fail to mention why people went to such extremes the British presence and all it’s oppression these people didn’t die for a hobbie they died for belief .