All these comments talking about he being f2p shocked me, first time hearing about this. Why didn't he said that in his livestrems?

@kuratse205

19 күн бұрын

Wait? He's f2p? I didnt know he was the only mf who deserves praise in the ZZZ community.

@dreameisters

19 күн бұрын

Iirc he said before for ZZZ he will be completely f2p

@yunaX12

19 күн бұрын

Because its a running joke in his community about him being a whale at everything and he knows it

@RogerNbr

19 күн бұрын

its always funny reading the ppl who don't get sarcasm answering

@kyotheman69

19 күн бұрын

we will see how long that lasts lol

The game doesn't need to be hard it just needs to be fun and rewarding after completely a combat challenge

@zap7737

19 күн бұрын

but bullet sponge training dummies, are not fun and the rewards in the game are lackluster at best.

@mleong75

19 күн бұрын

​@zap7737 Exactly this. Reason why I quitted Honkai Impact 3rd. Pretty much just hp bloat everywhere, with enemies that don't do much. I endured it until Part2 started. Then dropped because of horrible story writing.

@ChrispyBrownies-fi4xh

19 күн бұрын

​@@mleong75pretty much sums up why there are not much players in Hi3rd & PGR, unlike their exploration open world games. It's just not a lot of people's cup of tea

@mleong75

19 күн бұрын

​​@@ChrispyBrownies-fi4xhTried PGR, it's much better than HI3 imo. But played till only lv70. The bosses are actually a threat and you really have to git gud. Like even when you unlock CW, it doesn't mean you're invincible. Unlike HI3, where you essentially lock enemies in place indefinitely. Because every new valk has so many s and timestops.

@dedcet634

19 күн бұрын

if combat game has no challenge at all they can make this game as idle game with management

i agree with the tv being better in chapter 2. it felt more engaging and less "in ur way" when compared to chapter 1

@Tiasung

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, more focused on doing a specific task or puzzle instead of several aimless moving around sections.

@alexbell762

19 күн бұрын

You gonna hate the tv when you got to hit level 34 there’s literally like a 30 sessions when you’re in the tv’s

@brorochimaru3394

18 күн бұрын

Glad to hear this since I’m heading into chapter 2. I like how unique the TV is but it was getting in my nerves

@alexbell762

18 күн бұрын

@@brorochimaru3394 yeah I just hit level 34 it if it takes you a few days you might be able to skip that side quest but if you rush you’ll need to do that 30 side quest it’s definitely not the more fun but they have some good tv ones I can admit

It's a good game but it can definitely be improved. So far, I'm enjoying it quite a lot so we will see how it goes.

Honestly the TV are a great building block for the devs to make various situation simulation There was a stage where they simulate bomber man The mummy game where you can get trapped even though you carried unlimited bomb every 3 steps go boom Not gonna be surprised if they can simulate pong om the TV section

@geo_ruhark

19 күн бұрын

@@VierzheTsuu I had a really good time in the Golden Town quest. It was a great demonstration of what you can do with the system.

@T8-TR

19 күн бұрын

Better for visual storytelling too. In Genshin/HSR, shit will happen and it'll cut to black and give you a text blurb explaining what happened. "PomPom crashed through the doorway into the room you're in, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap and then the structure caves in, leaving you blocked from progressing!" and then it fades out and there's rubble in your way now. In ZZZ, they can just show a big mfer on the TVs crashing through the map, destroying your path. No reading necessary, your brain + the SFX used fill in the blanks and now you understand what happened. I would take that >>>>>>>>>>>> Genshin/HSR's way of doing things any da.y.

@quangtuantran7181

18 күн бұрын

True, I dont see a lot of ppl talk abt this. TVs r building blocks that they can mold into specific stages for specific story chapters. The story was abt loading bombs into a train? Make a TV stage abt that. The story was abt stealth? Sure, have one like that.

@teeman7137

16 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@T8-TRyep and they can finally show character killing mobs on screen while keeping their precious peg16 like the sniper girl from the Solder 11 quest.

Dat Pokke Village remixed bgm from MHFU at the end hit real hard.

We could play a drinking game and get absolutely blasted for every time our Streamer says “f2p btw”

The main complaint that I have is that I cant walk around with my character in open world when I get them. It's a crime really.

@ihabnoname104

19 күн бұрын

Its designed to be that way. Not every game has to be an open world rpg.

@NoU.07738

19 күн бұрын

⁠@@ihabnoname104well if you pay for a character, you’d expect to see them at least 30 percent of the time lmao

@HowAreYou2

19 күн бұрын

​@@ihabnoname104the point is wasn't about open world but you can use other gacha character walking around the block in the game instead of Wise and Belle only

@robertjif6337

19 күн бұрын

Why is it have to be open world?? Look at grandblue fantasy relink, I walk around as narmaya ​@@ihabnoname104

@bloody4558

19 күн бұрын

​@@ihabnoname104I get you, but what he means is that he wants to move around as the gacha characters he pulls not the main character. Which is a very petty complaint of you asked me. Since you never even touch your main character in other gacha games

Yeah, I've gotten to Shuyu Defense Stage 10, and the feeling I'm getting is not that I need to become better but more so that I'm lacking stats. The bosses aren't harder in a way that they have more mechanics but that they become absolute giga HP sponges. I'm doing the exact same thing as before, but instead of the bosses taking 3 minutes to kill, they are now taking 6.

@nf7694

19 күн бұрын

And the problem is that stats is purely a gear thing. and given how early we are to the game, it's expected that everyone is undergeared to tackle endgame. once everyone has the gear, it'd just be a walk in the park.

@Tsukio2024

19 күн бұрын

Exactly. This is what I'm saying always. The enemies still has the same mechanics even at higher levels and nothing changed except for higher hp

@anagramhound

19 күн бұрын

Literally what Hoyo were doing with Genshin but most ZZZ fans will never accept this harsh truth 😂

@drinkswatere

19 күн бұрын

Yeah I’m sick of people saying “you clearly haven’t made it to end game it gets way harder” NO IT DOESNT. It’s the same game with just high hp enemies. They lock the end game rewards behind stats not skill. I’ll stick around to see where it goes but if it stays the same I’m gone yesterday.

@SY-re9vu

19 күн бұрын

Hoyo stans gonna be like "wait until reach endgame, it's challenging" Endgame: Just more stats and same atk pattern, no new mechanics, no new moveset

after u run out of story...this game turns into a photography/blockbuster simulator (lvl 38)

@chinkyflahz

19 күн бұрын

and the combat only takes a while if u dont level ur data disc...if u level ur atk data disc..everything is down in like 30 seconds

@chinkyflahz

19 күн бұрын

shiyu 7 just put ur breaker (i used anby)on one team and put ur 2 other units(i used anton/rina) on the other team and voila done

@300y1

15 күн бұрын

That's a lot of gacha games, to be quite honest. Finish the couple of hours story, get sent to the skill tree material or gear farm mines. Come back in 3 months to get drip fed a 2 hour story and repeat. At the end of the day though, it's about the core gameplay and ZZZ has boring enough combat to make a lot of people want to quit and im not even mentioning TVs hahaha

@chinkyflahz

15 күн бұрын

@@300y1 lots of gachas survive off of guilds/worldboss/guildboss/pvp

@chinkyflahz

15 күн бұрын

@@300y1 runnin out of content in a single player gacha is the worst.

I have a blast with this game, it is actually so nice to give u some time to learn mechanics and parry/evade. Im now at Level 30 and had some really strong and longer enemy fights. TV System is ok, it has alot of varience and doesent take long, all the little quests around the main scenarios are cute and i dont think i need to say much about music and soundeffects. I never expected a Elden Ring level of difficulty just for the reason that game is mobile so im totally ok with that.

The whole TV gimmick apparently ties very deeply into the lore of the game. Watched a lore analysis video and it does make sense. And TV isn't that bad after you get used to it, it's like something you gradually start to like

@NoU.07738

19 күн бұрын

@@arthuryeh1112 damn. Bro gaslighted himself into liking an arduous game mechanic😭

@henrymorales9584

19 күн бұрын

Ooooh. What’s the videos name? I’m really into lore

@user-ie7oi2eg8w

19 күн бұрын

@@NoU.07738 😂😂

@chomosuke0720

19 күн бұрын

​@@NoU.07738 Damn. Bro never heard of the concept of liking something more over time and resorted to Twitter buzzwords 😭

@NoU.07738

19 күн бұрын

@@chomosuke0720 “And TV isn’t that bad after you get used to it” That’s the definition of fooling yourself. he endured it long enough to not be bothered by it. But sure, go off champ. Buzzwords or not, TV in ZZ0 is trash.

I cleared Shiyu 7 (B-rank) with Anton and Soukaku in phase 1 and Piper/Anby/Rina in phase 2. Phase 2 piper just carries with proccing disorder anomaly but it wasn't pretty since they're just level 30.

I unironically like the TV system. What I learned from the past years playing Genshin and HSR is that I hate open worlds and exploration (to a certain extent). The TV system makes the game linear, and for me, it's great!

@gelsakh2573

19 күн бұрын

truly tailor made for you

@joaquinchua3348

19 күн бұрын

Tv system is just unnecessary, if ppl don't like exploration and open world, the tv is just another form of exploration and eats more time than the combat itself. They should've just copied PGR or literally Honkai impact where u enter a stage and get dropped into battle immediately. That's like the perfect system for action based non-exploration gacha. Why did TV have to exist? Its so fking tedious to do it just to get into the combat.

@T8-TR

19 күн бұрын

People yapping about how bad the TV system is like the exploration in HSR isn't "walk down hallway, hear yapping from story, keep moving down hallway-- oh, now you turn right!" Like, it's the same shit, it's just that the TV is dressed up differently. What mfers should be bitching about isn't the TV system existing, it's how long the animations in the TV system are. That's what makes it seem slow and cumbersome, not the fact that it's just ZZZ's stylized way of doing the same navigation we have in plenty of other games.

@flamezforthegamez1056

19 күн бұрын

​@@joaquinchua3348but how would you open chests? If Hoyo wanna implement chest collection in this game, how would they do that following an exploration mechanic? Maybe of the gameplay looked more like pokemon red/blue to copy retro esthetic, then it would capture higher appeal and less complaints, while still taking after a turn based dungeon crawler puzzle mechanic. Regardless, puzzles are gonna be added into the game and the TV system is a vehicle to do that.

@kernelscout3077

19 күн бұрын

so basically you hate playing games.

Its surpirsingly fun. Dont know if I still see myself playing it in a few weeks, but rn im having fun.

I like the cozu environment, while free roaming in the world, very fun seeing characters hanging out randomly. Idk I am sucker for this, I like the combat. I got tired of gi and wuwa cause they both are very similar. I am only gonna login for events until a new patch or region comes.

@sdsdsaasdsadasdasd

19 күн бұрын

Gi and wuwa are completely different. Let's be real.

It would be a 9/10 as a non-gacha single player game so far, but the gacha kind of makes it take a step back due to all the busywork mandated by f2p gacha game design (dailies, endless grind for RNG equipment)

4:36 i saw it , i saw that dodge attack+parry attack play

@kirby9427

18 күн бұрын

I believe it's just piper skill before parry of anby. no dodge here

Hit A on floor 7 and 8 i recommend lucy with neko and piper. Plus your disc builds make it much more bearable i know i can hit s on floor 7 since i just reworked my teams

FTP. At IK 34 there is no combat missions yet sadly, at IK 35 right now and gonna get to IK 36 hopefully in a day or two to see more fun content and story.

As someone that doesn't have a single S rank dps you feel the pinch (particularly shiyu defence) a lot sooner

Is there a video link somewhere to mr pokke's outro remix of the pokke village theme?

end of the day its a hoyo game so expect more casual playstyle

@treasure9342

19 күн бұрын

Should of marketed that way if that was the point🤷‍♀️

@prohanta9360

19 күн бұрын

@@treasure9342 mhoyo is the embodiment of false marketing expert. I remember how they marketed hsr in game show but they showed 0 gameplay with all pre rendered cutscenes. They tired to bait non gacha gamers to think hsr wasn't turnbase game. No hate though

@justjuniorjaw

19 күн бұрын

@@prohanta9360 100 + 80 pulls NOWAYING Reddit post : Where's our 180 pulls? Replies : CLUELESS

@henriknguyen8978

19 күн бұрын

​@@treasure9342because the rat devs want to take attention away from a current game that has actual good combat

@chomosuke0720

19 күн бұрын

​@@henriknguyen8978 Oh no! As if their goal was to make money by diverting attention from a popular game like WuWa to their own game! That's never happened in the history of business before! What a concept!

Doing the last mission just made me want chingyi

What makes me don't like about the game is that, as Pokke has mentioned, the feeling of need to simply 'increase the dmg' to beat the boss, instead of increasing 'gameplay skills'. I'd argue this is one of the points where Mihoyo directly encourages players to buy more constellation or sig weapon, the latter being notorious for its ridiculously high price since the launch of Genshin until now with its competitor Mingchao or WuWa.

@ittehitteh9322

19 күн бұрын

dont forget theres gonna be more and more hp sponges like genshin

@zippo718

19 күн бұрын

​@@ittehitteh9322If people complain about hp too much they'll just make the boss invulnerable for half the fight as they go underground or fly out if reach.

@JimJimmy-hb9pc

19 күн бұрын

Me with no constellation or sig weapon on both genshin and hsr but still clear everything, honestly skill issues.

@HazardTone

19 күн бұрын

@@JimJimmy-hb9pc not even a skill issues your just a tryhard minmaxer and that's fine but it still doesn't takes skill to do

@JimJimmy-hb9pc

19 күн бұрын

@@HazardTone yeah somehow what the game designed it to be right? like i don't think i could fight radhan in day 1 without leveling up. It's common sense but people still complaining womp womp

I'm also level 32. I just feel the game as game is fine, there's nothing wrong, no game breaking bug and it's most polished game hoyo ever made. But the game just lack of something and some people said "lack of being fun". This game really reformula of honkai 3rd with slower energy recharge, different aesthetic and very story driven. The false advertising mhoyo made "game focused combat" just simply baited people, the game is "hard" for very casual gamers (like if you straight garbage at game) and too easy for actual sweaty gamer. Tried the supposed to be endgame, enemies just barely hit you and all about hp sponge or dps check. Story is fine they don't need to be giga brain story, it just anime style type story imo. I feel like this game is just visual novel with some cutsece and some battle here and there, this is story focused game not combat. Imo, if I want combat game between mhoyo games, I would just play honkai than zzz

@zzzuuuzzz6706

19 күн бұрын

I think the difficulty is just matter of the game being 1.0. Remember genshin/hsr 1.0 abyss enemy? They are nothing compared to the most recent release patch. Remember when freeze meta and venti trivialize entire 1.0 of genshin? They become irrelevant as soon as 2.0 start. If you go fight the duo dancer boss that unlock at lvl 36, they barely give you any dps window when you break them.

@shinigamiryan5837

19 күн бұрын

​@@zzzuuuzzz6706Honestly, it's just the Hoyo formula. 1.0 is the easy period and devs Guage where they need to go. Why I don't care what endgame is here as it's too early and will change.

@jiroo.0

19 күн бұрын

​@@zzzuuuzzz6706hsr has annoying boss mechanics that makes the game somewhat difficult i remember getting bodied by kafka boss cause of her dominate skill

@ganyumaindayone1112

19 күн бұрын

@@shinigamiryan5837 4 years later, genshin endgame IS still dogshit easy though Thats the problem with hoyoverse, you cant have confidence in the future of their game thx to genshin existence

@shinigamiryan5837

19 күн бұрын

@@ganyumaindayone1112 Tbh I quit Genshin. Open world games just aren't my cup of tea and HI3 also exists, so Genshin is just the outlier in reality. ZZZ being closer to HI3 gameplay wise also means it has a lot more to gain that way.

I love ZZZ so far! I don't have a lot of time to grind games, so it's perfect to fit in with the fast and easy daily commissions. I love the satisfying parry and unlimited FPS, it just feels too good!

I cleared defense with just Ellen until I needed two teams.

i had no idea he’s f2p

Hollow zero and shiyu defense are a blessing for f2p players. There are some good variety in each explorations and the difficulty ladder is enjoyable as heck, and cost NO stamina. Even the weekly doesn't cost stamina either

i think story is really good i liked it from koleda and the mech too the end. even combat is fun just hope they make some tv skippable and it will be better

@Miwhe

19 күн бұрын

nekomata’s story is honestly peak

@puenboy1

19 күн бұрын

There’s nothing wrong if you’re having fun as long as you don’t gaslight people into thinking it’s more than it is

@thornszk

19 күн бұрын

There is nothing wrong with not liking it as long as you don't get angry at people enjoying it.

@kuroh0241

18 күн бұрын

Story complaints are the most bizzare of them all. It feels like a lot of people just want to hate on Nekomata for "being cringe" and completely disregard everything else in chapter 1.

@lolwarrior2181

18 күн бұрын

Eh, the story itself is okay like a 7/10. Though it is easily the best opener acts across all hoyo games (which isn't saying a lot mind you, the rest have been a mid 6/10). Obvious spoiler warning but yeah so far it's been pretty bog standard, predictable (imo), and bit repetitive. Prelude is just a mcguffin chase. CH 1 is a pretty standard heist stuff with the "the guys that i thought was bad turns out to be good" obvious trope. CH 2 has a bit of prelude with chasing the construction machine with a repeat of CH 1 trope. Biggest problem is that there are no stake or imminent threat for the main character (twins). It's not like the ethreals posed that much of a threat since everyone seems to handle it fine to a certain extent. They lost their main paethon account sure but again we as a player don't know what it really meant to the world, and the twins brushing it off, saying "unlucky" before moving on to rebuilding their account once again doesn't help the impact. Sure we have that weird future projection and stuff but it seems it is going to be a while before we get to touch on that point. The characters themselves are great tho. A lot of personality here

The tv/exploration is just a stylized navigation method like any other JRPG. It provides some puzzle options that wouldnt be possible in third person environments. The people getting upset at it have never played an RPG before.

@TacticalDimples

19 күн бұрын

Yes, let’s blame players for expecting an action combat game to have action combat as its main focus when the game was and is still advertised as an action combat heavy focused game. This is on MHY and their false marketing.

@LargeBanana

19 күн бұрын

This is a disaster level cope man. Coping at its finest, fuck the tv.

@geo_ruhark

19 күн бұрын

@@TacticalDimples it's always been marketed as a slice of life action rpg.

@geo_ruhark

19 күн бұрын

@@LargeBanana It's exactly what I thought it would be. So I'm pretty happy.

@geoforce6228

19 күн бұрын

Ppl disliking tv system aren't the targeted audience. it's nothing new in hoyo games, always players out there thinking they are the targeted audience and got upset.

While the playable characters have depth, I feel like the enemies are just lacking. For the combat to feel rewarding, the gameplay design of the enemies should take the same or more priority than the characters. But of course this is a gacha after all, that’s probably never happening.

@Tiasung

19 күн бұрын

Pretty much. If not for Hoyo greed this could have been a regular singleplayer game and gameplay wouldnt be as restricted. Would end up having been a much better game for sure.

nekomata best team from my own experience is with piper building neko's additional core passive and a support to get that 40% dmg boost from her core passive with dodge counters or quick assist for 6s.

Did you know he’s f2p?

@treasure9342

19 күн бұрын

HE IS, NO WAY

@charlesplero212

19 күн бұрын

Wait, really? That means he's RELATABLE now?

@dreameisters

19 күн бұрын

Yeah iirc he said f2p for ZZZ in one of his previous video

@allanamaya540

18 күн бұрын

Or course he's f2play, the dude spended like 10k last month on HSR+WuWa combine lol

@theprogamerxd8621

18 күн бұрын

Yh forced 2 pay

Deadass mfers be gaslighting me saying it gets better after level 30. Like bro this aint One Piece 💀

@betulla96

19 күн бұрын

Deadass ong bro like frfr 💀💀💀 skibidi

Rumors around the sixth street is that Pokke is f2p "gotta check it out Proxy"!

I expected the "hard content" is going to be just pure artificial difficulty dps check, very typical Hoyo thing to do lol If that met your requirements for a hard content then good for you.

It's amazing how Wuwa lives in everyone's head XD 90% of the comments talking about Wuwa that means that the game is VERY GOOD and lives for free in everyone's head comparing zzz with wuwa is not good, they are games of different genres but wuwa's combat is much better than zzz's because it feels free and not automatic If I compare zzz with PGR it loses in every way

@grammysworld5449

19 күн бұрын

You weirdos in the loony side of the WuWa fanbase love doing this weird shit.. Get laid or something man.. Your comment is the definition of "rent free"

@abdulzaelani9954

19 күн бұрын

Yeah especially these content creator that get paid by hoyo and not actually know what other game feels like, so they just shit on wuwa since they don't know any other game to compare to (and trying to compare it to other hoyo game wouldn't be good for their image in front of mihoyo either, hell and I bet they didn't even play HI3rd at all) It's infuriating how these CC can be absolutely honest and shit on other games, but when it comes to any hoyo game they just became so "tame" in their comments and hold back alot The worst part? The community like it and give them views. Sure it's not fair to assume everyone has play PGR or HI3rd, it's like saying "you can't judge any rpg if you never play Final fantasy" or "You don't know the standard of mmo if you never play Ragnarok", and in hindsight seems like hoyo did a good move here, by intentionally release ZZZ in 2024, which make the game technically don't have competitor since HI3rd release on 2016 and PGR in 2021, that's long enough gap where newer player may never even play those two games You know what? Screw that, now that I think about it, it's shock me how no one compare zzz to Aether gazer, even though that game is only 1 year but it's rarely being put to discussion, but then again Aether gazer vs ZZZ just will make zzz looks so much better. Seems like hoyoverse has a very good insight of what time a game should be released, where every other big companies focus on making open world (due to hoyoverse making the market itself) now there are nothing newer to compare zzz with. Or maybe this just show how good PGR actually is, since there is little you can go against PGR (maybe if you just don't like the "ping" system, which in that case hell ZZZ is pretty much your only option..... What about HI3rd? Don't, as someone that huge Honkai fans, HI3rd is a nightmare for new player due to the amount of "shop currencies" and game mode in that game)

@grammysworld5449

19 күн бұрын

Wuwa fans spent the last month trashing everyone else and the last week trashing ZZZ and now wants to play victim

@rexconnor9899

19 күн бұрын

@@grammysworld5449Says the toxic genshit clown coping hard af.

@rexconnor9899

19 күн бұрын

@@grammysworld5449Ironic coming from a genshit dog who can't get wuwa out of his mind.

im knot lvl 36 now, and i've done everything with the meta team (all the hollow zero maxed out) i can say, if i didn't have ellen's team, i wouldn't even touch hitting S on those hollow zero fights, like when you can hit for 250k Ellen ult and not even 1/4 life the boss, you're in for a ride.

@ittehitteh9322

19 күн бұрын

there were very early hints about this when mobs are unusually tanky even at early stages

@terrormansakata9626

18 күн бұрын

Honestly that doesn't sound fun lol same gameplay you've been doing from the beginning but now it everything just has higher damage and hp why does mihoyo always do this when it comes to difficulty they never care if the difficulty is actually fun just as long as it's "hard".

@ittehitteh9322

18 күн бұрын

@@terrormansakata9626 the 'fun' part is at the button mashing part but they had to end our fun with bloated hp. it actually turns boring at that point

so are we supposed to pull a bangboo yet?

Honestly, I like this game. I love Cyberpunk and Persona. The story is meh right now (not even chapter 2) but I personally don't mind the simple combat coming from ff14 and wuwa as an example of games that focus on skill and team rotations. I get off work, hop on and immerse myself like I did with Persona. Taking it very slow since I spedrun WuWa and now can only login for dailies and seek whatever chest I haven't found yet. It's a 8/10. Some systems need improvement and they need to pick it up in 1.1. Funny, since most people were also saying the same thing about WuWa, that 1.1 would make or break the game.

@sandyaahmadher9488

19 күн бұрын

I also like the simple combat, i just don't realize each character has different combo moveset and i can change to previous character by pressing other button than space. They really not explain it in tutorial -,-. I hope 1.1 will be better, and 1.2 wuwa too. Cause i slightly lost interest playing wuwa in this Jinshi patch

@ReviXyOfficial

19 күн бұрын

People were freaking out about HSR to but on a WAY smaller scale and look how that game turned out lol. It'l be fine, and hey the difficulty for me at lvl 37 and the final 2 floors of shiyu is starting to ramp up pretty fast.

@user-lr8bv5yg4r

19 күн бұрын

literally same, I've always been a fan of cyberpunk edgerunners / the game and ZZZ has some of the style and design.

@JingLiu-nk7ie

19 күн бұрын

People who say wuwa requires skills are not serious lmao

@dedcet634

19 күн бұрын

@@JingLiu-nk7ie i mean if you play ww,you will know hologram needs skill,the rest are just dps check

I'm at the end of Chapter 2. Id give it a 7/10. It's not blowing me away with anything, but i want to keep playing. There's a severe lack of premium currency tho

@Kyle81290

19 күн бұрын

>There's a severe lack of premium currency tho So the standard for a Hoyo game. Also, they haven't put any event yet so we will have to wait a bit longer for some freemogems

@user-up7on4ve6g

18 күн бұрын

Yea, usually you will expect tons of free gems to farm for a new game new account. But to have severe lack of gems to farm for a new account is just ridiculous, as if they will go bankruptcy if you get limited characters without spending money. The company is the very definition STINGYNESS despite being a multi billion dollar company. All they think about is milking the players to the extreme level

@christophealexander3262

14 күн бұрын

Quit now, the game is becoming a bullet sponge in latter game, its hard to upgrade level to 34 (chapter 3) without s rank

Guys, is he free to play? I don't think he has confirmed yet.

Review tier list when?

Once you hit the lvl 30 and Shiyu defence the Hollow Zero gameplay loop actually started to get more challenging and interesting. The buffs and decisions started to have much more of an impact and i found myself having to restart once and paying attention to the TV mode. For someone who actually like Min/Max my play throughs. A very welcome addition. Unfortunately the story TV's are still pretty meh. They do feel shorter now though. So I can see where Hoyo wanted to take the TV mode it adds some puzzles and decision making that can impact combat in different ways like which support bamboos you have access too. None of that is in the story and it took me a good 12 hours of gameplay to unlock Shiyu and the second part of Hollow Zero. Any game that gates you for so long before it's mechanics really open up deserves all the criticism. Games that are trying to appeal to a casual crowd especially. Atleast it's not the WoW grind. For those who want a pretty punishing boss fights in Hollow Zero. Max out your corruption and try to survive. 3 poorly timed parries and or assists will result in a restart.

I just hate these people force you to play for 3 days get to 30+ Inter knot because it will get better. FYI I am currently on 30+ and rally commissions and Shiyu the mobs and boss are just basically the same just high HP High attack that mean the combat you've been doing in normal mode that takes about 2 rotations to clear you need to do ot again for 20 or more times in this game modes.

@ctrl.s3565

19 күн бұрын

bro no one is forcing you to play a game...

@HazardTone

19 күн бұрын

@@ctrl.s3565 I play the game on my own. And nobody is forcing me too and me giving an opinion is valid. But what these zzz stans keep saying is oh you didn't played enough. Oooh you haven't even reached IK 30 yet. Oohh rally commission and Shiyu defense is hard. Well I grind to reach it and give valid arguments against those people.

@HazardTone

19 күн бұрын

​@@ctrl.s3565no one is forcing me to play, i play my own rights. I purposely push myself to IK 30++ to give a valid arguments to zzz stans who keep saying that the combat will feel different in the end game. But sadly it does not.

@zzzuuuzzz6706

19 күн бұрын

I think this is just classic "hoyo filter". All hoyo game at its core is story game. They want their audience to invest in story cause those audiences usually stay longer with the game. It kinda the same reason why genshin/hsr don't have skip button. ZZZ does have skip button for some part of story but you still have to go through tv, which is another story medium. Granted, the marketing is misleading on their side, which lead many to play the game that is not catering for them and hate the game for that reason.

@user-ie7oi2eg8w

19 күн бұрын

@@zzzuuuzzz6706 Story in the game isn't even that good. It's all just hype eyecandy for kids.

feeling the pull drought already tho this game barely gives pulls for the limited banner i cleared everything available and shiyu defense i walled at stage 10. IMO they gotta improve the rewards

TLRW Just force yourself to play through all the brainrot and boredom for 30+ hours to built up an addiction so you can log in everyday for 15 mins. Sunk cost fallacy.

@shonenhikada9254

18 күн бұрын

hence why so many paid actors for Mihoyo keep telling people that they need to play the game for hours before they can give an opinion on the game. Basically trying to trick you to fall into Mihoyo rabbit hole. These accounts are also easy to spot because their bare bone youtube accounts.

@Dragonbro91_

17 күн бұрын

@@shonenhikada9254 I just wonder how much it cost to get all the big en cc's..

2/10 🗿

can't bear with zzz anymore hard enemies is just having more stat instead making them actual hard,can't expect anything from mhy anymore combat game but i only see 2% of actual combat ,the rest just yapping and tv wtf this game has 50 gb i don't think mhy can fix tv and their long ass yapping,all i can see in the future just mhy adding more gb for maps ,animation and new char

Regarding the TV gameplay, main story TV are way too easy, the exploration challenges are just tricky enough, although sometimes they are too tedious and drawn out.

@zacziggarot

18 күн бұрын

Only TVs I have a problem with are the ones in hollow zone zero since you're meant to farm those repeatedly. I was expecting them to change the layout or something instead of it being the same every time. I honestly feel like avoiding the 7777 zone going forward 😑

End game gonna be boring as it will only be combat and TV's, no exploration and already completed story.

@Goshified

19 күн бұрын

Personally, I think TV mode is way more fun and has greater potential than boring checklist “exploration”.

@connor2500

19 күн бұрын

Why exactly does it need exploration? I genuinely want to know why everyone has this obsession with hunting chests and the like, to me the shits boring as hell cause it’s always the same idea ‘look at a map for chest location/run around for a bit hunting said chest, dodge/kill shit on the way, collect chest, repeat’ so it’s always baffles me that people think games like this NEED exploration to be fun.

@JamzSlime

19 күн бұрын

@@connor2500 tbh i thinks it's just because they want to have something to extend their playtime beyond the story and quests (and maybe mindlessly spam basic attack and skill the air with their favourite character)

@iamrick4469

14 күн бұрын

After playing genshin for 4 years and some of the recent single player open world games, I'm SICK of the exploration. This is a freaking chore.

So far the only bad thing for me is the pseudo difficulty where the boss is just HP sponge. But im here for the fun gameplay and story. So far story was ok, but the lore video gave hope for future plots.

@hamsterspeed

18 күн бұрын

It would be great if they add more move sets / mechanism for the bosses, e.g. in hollow zero, every difficulty it introduce a new move set.

Level 31 here. Chapter 2 was really fun. It really shows that Belle and Wise have actual personalities as gacha protagonists where they are normally silent JRPG heroes. We also see them slip up a bit, so that we're reminded once again that these are not super protagonists who never do anything wrong. We also see a bit more the role that proxies (are meant to) have in Hollow exploration. As far as the TV goes, the fact that they're more interesting now is a result of Mihoyo catering towards casual players. Chapter 1 TV explorations are boring, because they need to be dead simple to teach new players how to play. Combine that with the fact that the TV UI is atrocious (it's like if HSR never gave you 2x combat speed) and makes it hard to move quickly multiple times in succession (and the acceleration doesn't improve that because the animation doesn't seem to run at 2x speed), and you get a laggy boring mess. Of course people will hate it. Oh, don't remind me of the mess that was wandering around in Golden Bamboo Town for 40 minutes where half of that was backtracking in a laggy maze. ZZZ is a 6.5/8 for me. It'll go a bit higher if they fix the TV movement speed and increase Belle's overworld running speed.

@el-mo9233

19 күн бұрын

Hey, just a question, why rate the game out of 8 instead of 10 or 5?

@tan1822

19 күн бұрын

Bro really rated something on a scale of 1-8

@Mike-oi9ky

19 күн бұрын

6.5 out of 8 Lol

@AmbatublowOnYou

19 күн бұрын

just y wait till u get to 34, they're cooking hard with chap 3 lmfao

@Rendang_Shofun

19 күн бұрын

do you mean 6.5 to 8 out of ten?? or its really is 6.5 out of 8?? lol

I'm at floor 10 rn and i basically get 2 tapped by the bosses. If i swap out to late then both the current unit and the one i switched to get fucking stomped. floor 7 and 8 are easy but holy shit 9 and 10 are insane spikes in boss hp and dmg. Im inter-Knot lvl 37 rn. Combat is starting to actually demand my full attention in shiyu and hollow zero since im under leveled.

@markanthonymedina2529

19 күн бұрын

w0w wish i could reach IKL 37, btw IKL 30 by now and will be doing Story 2; the TV stuff just grown into me since this is the first time i am having a game mechanic like this to explore the story. The early levels is taxing but as you progress it is decent as i experience in the game

@hungry_l

19 күн бұрын

Does the enemy at higher levels attack more aggressively, or its just stats increase?

@Rendang_Shofun

19 күн бұрын

@@hungry_l he mentioned this at the very first line "at floor 10 rn and i basically get 2 tapped by the bosses. If i swap out to late then both the current unit and the one i switched to get fucking stomped"

@captaincalamari2519

18 күн бұрын

I'm gonna miss this era of getting two shotted because once you get characters fully built and are at the max level, I don't know if I'll have that same feeling anymore.

@Rendang_Shofun

18 күн бұрын

@@captaincalamari2519 I've heard there's actually 17 stages in Shinyu Defence. and Pokke was struggling at stage 9 last night. Lets believe we will get our cheeks clapped by new modes later on just like they did in HSR

It is full of style and charm, but the TV system is preventing me from ever desiring to put a little money in. It's essentially just fighting in "rooms" and TVs move the player from one "room" to another. The lack of proper levels to move around full-time as the characters is disappointing.

One of the few times I disagree with Pokke. Combat becomes complex enough to be interesting and challenging. I think he forgets that not everyone plays games for a living and is constantly looking at guides, discord, reddit, and Chinese server analysis. If you spend 12 hours a day playing and studying, build the teams according to current meta, and have the best S-rank character in the game... then, yeah, combat might not be the most challenging. But come on...

Soukaku is soo good for crowd and dmg

30+ hours for it to get better is not a good game design imho

its quite funny if people complaining about the story and mission at the start of the game, if it just have 1-2hour content and thats it until next update.. then we can call it a problem in zzz we dont have exploration map like openworld thingy so yeah the content need to be story, and if thats finished it will bring the AFK moment like HSR nowadays, just use energy for the days and thats it

100+ Hour = Wasted Time 👺👺👺

I guess I'm the only one who have problem with the loading screen, I hate it so much. It has Starfield level of loading screen. I don't have that much loading screen in hsr so idk why this game have problem with that.

guys can someone confirm if he is free to play or not? i cant tell

i feel like zzz is what they originally wanted to do in HI3 i remember their art before hi3 looks like something from persona. even the colors and shading are similar to this

man's a rap god fr

I think that the game is fun (:

This is why i allways come back to PGR, its jusy more fun playing hard glames

@7cycles413

19 күн бұрын

kurogames dont have that funfactor to me especially pgr lol..is weird

@PonderMINGY

19 күн бұрын

​@@7cycles413skill issue

@rexconnor9899

19 күн бұрын

@@7cycles413Cope

14:20 This right here. Not everyone has the time to waste on games.

Im already level 34 as f2p love seeing my husband lycaon in action

@kay.e9014

19 күн бұрын

How is this possible pls? I'm only lvl 32 as f2p. There are some agent quests I have left, but besides that idk how you got so far 😅

@andreesprz1316

16 күн бұрын

@@kay.e9014 use up ur fuels, get on everyday for dailies, do everything that gives you a smidge of exp

excatly the same opinion until i try my stage 7 shiyu defense (only have ellen as *5 attacker), and forced to use billy as 2nd dps haha

Did you guys know that he is F2P? Impressed, I had no idea he was F2P

I had to quit wuthering waves because it took too much time. I'm glad that zzz does not require a ton of my time. I need to keep up with my main games and still have time to watch anime and work.

@Texasalterr

19 күн бұрын

Same bro, also I feel more attached to the characters in zzz especially after we unlocks the agent trust system where we can hang out with them.

@sungodnika3545

19 күн бұрын

took too much time? lmao thats only you to just keep playing the game or stop.

The L30+ level gatekeeping is killing me. Currently at 35, need 36 for the next f-ing chapter. I need a weekly event to get more gems so I can get my guaranteed Ellen JOE!!! 60 / 90 pity!!!

@TheGoldenLeek

19 күн бұрын

It took so much work to get to 34 just to do two missions and get told to grind to 36

@julianesteban4405

19 күн бұрын

@@TheGoldenLeek This

@shinigamiryan5837

19 күн бұрын

HSR Luofu strikes again!

@MikeJXWT

19 күн бұрын

I felt that but with WuWa, it took me a week to get outta that level gate to finish Ch 1 since all the side quests kept putting me to sleep. Only quest I liked was the poison fog quest, the flying beast fight reminded me of FF16’s Aeon fight with the Phoenix but at home. Jiyan and Yinlin’s Story Quests were really good.

@SempaiXDX

19 күн бұрын

1st time if you play older gotcha games this is better just play wuwa

Honestly of the 3 I can tell that zzz is going to have the best story telling of the gacha games, if not a close second to Honkai

@Erik-vf9yn

17 күн бұрын

Lmao, no.

@iamrick4469

14 күн бұрын

Hope you mean among the hoyo games. Because, you know, Path to Nowhere exists

It's fun. I came in expecting Persona 5, I got my Persona 5. Knowing that this is just the 1.0, I know hoYo is just waiting to deliver cinema. My complaints would simply be that the game needs to give us a bit more control as in : Combat needs to let us not get into chain attack if we want to, TV needs to let us keep moving during short story points, and don't lock up controls during UI transitions (like swapping Chapters in HDD menu).

@LargeBanana

19 күн бұрын

Hoyo doesn't always deliver cinema. They did in all of their title with "honkai" but Genshin feels like an abandoned game.

@dimitristakis6396

18 күн бұрын

​@@LargeBanana Genshin feels like an abandoned game 😂😂😂 meanwhile genshin has the largest playerpool by a huge margin and we going to 5.0 ❤

@LargeBanana

18 күн бұрын

@@dimitristakis6396 It still feels like an abandoned game. What do you want me to say, the company can abandon a game while people are still playing. They then proceed to put the lowest effort possible everytime to keep you playing. I'm a day 1 player, still playing today. I have not spent resin for months because there is no need. Let's be real now. Genshin made Hoyo who they are, but compare the effort in story telling and everything else in ZZZ compared to Genshin. Don't be a blind fanboy.

@dimitristakis6396

18 күн бұрын

@@LargeBanana i disagree i dont feel abandoned on genshin at all , its a single player game i wont complain about wishes they give us and all that i have irl problems. The depth of the lore is peak compared to other gachas ( and i mean every gacha in existence ). Also now that there is a rivalry between the 3 hoyo games that is only going to improve each of them ♥️ gamers are just a greedy species, we do not even know what we want in a game yet we still complain EACH AND EVERY TIME.

@Lubossxd

18 күн бұрын

@@LargeBanana hi3 made hoyo who they are and allowed genshin budget. they are still working on the game but not on the things that some people are expecting of them. it still has interesting story, world building and fights too, even if they are more casual. long time players already figured out the game and ez clear everything - this eventually happens to all games where people spend hundreds of hours. a lot of people want easy clear, that's why majority of popular games are easy in nature

i am at level 32, shiyu defense level 7 with the fire floors on A because i don't have a single fire agent. i dunno dude it's a okay game, but it isn't hard by any means, shiyu is just larger HPs and DPS check, whoever was saying ''it gets harder on the late game'' just straight up lied.

agree with this, after chap 2 its more tolerable

Yeah the game actually packs a bunch but like why they put it so far back

idk bout yall but this game is focused on hi3 audience or street fighting they just targetted it toward the wrong audience

Zzz falls really fast. Walls to often. Like you play 30 m story then grind 2 lvl to play 30m story.

0:53 that's exactly what I said

bro being f2p says everything I need to know about that game

@ymw1107

19 күн бұрын

Like what? I'm genuinely curious

@ittehitteh9322

19 күн бұрын

@@ymw1107 bro whales on games he actually likes

@Adan.2005

19 күн бұрын

​@@ittehitteh9322he didn't whale in genshin tho😂 it was he's chat, he never spent his own money

@ittehitteh9322

19 күн бұрын

@@Adan.2005 🤣thats the thing with hoyo games. theres always these mysterious sponsors. happens in his HSR gameplay too

@nf7694

19 күн бұрын

it's the same for me as well. every gacha i do like and see myself sticking around a long time i spend money on them day 1. If I played for hours on day 1 and not feeling it, i will either quit entirely or play it f2p.

The main thing I want from this game is fun. Dieing in 1 or 2 hits is not fun. At the same time beating on an hp sponge also isn’t. Allow me to make a handful or so mistakes, add new boss attacks and patterns and such as difficulty progresses to make it harder and keep up the excellent animation with good character designs im interested in. Thats literally all I need for the dopamine to hit my simple brain when i come home from a 15 hour day of work and wanna relax, but have a challenge without being sweaty or "hardcore"

Bro i went to hard pity and lost 50 on ellen banners 😭now i have to grind more pulls for her and the game has no events yet to complete it😢

@hamsterspeed

18 күн бұрын

Same here lost the 50/50 got Rina. I am now saving my pulls for Miyabi.

Youve got to get your crit up in using a lvl 30 anton and the ch2 interlude was too easy 2-3 shooting mobs, sadly the game does feel very much like if you have the stats you can clear easy no skill needed

I have a feeling like he may be f2p but idk

cool account! not sure if you mentioned it, but are you f2p?

I f-ing hate the TV. I can tolerate it, I won't respect it. It shouldn't exist in the story in the first place, it should only exist in Hollow Zero where it belongs.

I truly think the real problem with the game is tutorials. The TV mechanic would be engaging if fairy didn't literally spoon feed you exactly what to do, and let you engage your neurons for 3 seconds and decide to click on tile and see what happens for yourself. Likewise the combat would probably be more enjoyed if the game respected you enough to let you stop playing in baby mode before you've already been playing for 15+hours.

Solid 5.5 for me. Cleared everything zzz has to offer so far and it's still MID. I'm dropping this one, good luck to all who enjoy.

@ittehitteh9322

19 күн бұрын

copers will tell you to spend another 50 hours. it will get better surely.

@CokaNostra-e4f

19 күн бұрын

Brother, stop suffering, the game is not going to get better First impressions are very valuable and this game failed at all of that. you're just prolonging your boredom

@SomeRandomDude12542

19 күн бұрын

@@ittehitteh9322 I already spent 50 hours, it went from 6/10 to 3/10 for me. The TV irritates me further and further.

this game is just really fun overall and although it isnt exactly hard i can say that time flies by while im playing. (hot take the TVs are kinda fun)

I think the only places that '1shot' you in wuwa are in content which outlevel you by alot right? I don't think you are actually challenging the equivalent yet. Having said that I don't think they want to have '1 shot' as they want to offer a gateway for anyone to enjoy the game. Anyway appreciate this series.. its pretty interesting to watch someone else's F2P progression haha

@zzzuuuzzz6706

19 күн бұрын

It baffles for me how getting "1 shot" = good difficulty. You don't really learn anything when any boss moves just 1 shot you. ZZZ also a lot easier because the bright red/yellow cross indicator to let you know which move is parriable and the fact that it is very visible among all the vfx of combat. Many boss like crownless hologram in wuwa barely have visible telegraph amiss all the visual clutter that is Jinshi atk that cover the entire boss.

@manyblock4192

19 күн бұрын

And? It's not HP sponge enemy where $$ to clear The fact u can defeat them with -20lvl tells a lot u can beat hologramas F2P But can most people do that? I bet none of them can do lvl 80-90 hologram, even u have full lvl 80 vs lvl 80 hologram, u will still struggles on Hologram boss who get more moveset and still hit hard like only 5 is tolerance for short time (before heal) And high lvl enemy doesn't mean u can't defeat them without same lvl, it just show enemy is hard, it would be weird if enemy have same lvl but hit like truck What if I have full lvl 90? Then Kuro just release lvl 120 hologram with lvl cap 100 to make it more challenging

@SomeRandomDude12542

19 күн бұрын

@@zzzuuuzzz6706 What do you mean you don't learn anything? Just because it can one shot you doesn't mean you can't learn anything.

@lolwarrior2181

18 күн бұрын

@@zzzuuuzzz6706 Have you not heard of the entire souls genre?

@Kramer8

18 күн бұрын

I don't think red enemies in Wuwa are supposed to ignore until you outleveled them, the thing is Wuwa allows you to do so, literally the same thing with souls game, once you outleveled, everything far more easier.

The minimal time investment required for this game feels very deliberate. I'm guessing Hoyo wants to keep their players playing Genshin and Star Rail, so ZZZ needs to be quick on the dailies and grind. I've never played a gacha where it's faster to do the dailies than the time it takes to explain it.

WAIT he is F2P????? Aintnoway

More people need to remember that having fun in a game is enough of a reason to keep playing it

Lose ellen's pity at 84, I got soukaku and the furry so I'm not that desperate, but i know my account would improve so much if I get her. Last day banner I'll figure out what I'll do if I end up not getting the 100%

@ricardoantonioacostajimene712

18 күн бұрын

Lose to koleda, the worst outcome for my account I'd say😂

The game was particularly hard for me I did 0 pulls until I got to 25, then I did only the normal banner until I got my first S rank which was Grace, pair her with Anton and Anby and it was a struggle until I got to 31 and decided to attempt for Ellen with my 90 free rolls and I got her on my 80th roll and been building her team ever since (I've also got Lycon on normal banner that same day) and since I've used so many resources on the free team at the start of the game, and then used a lot on Grace's team my future is a bit dark now I'm praying to get Ellen's weapon tried 20 pulls on it but no luck thus far.

What i like abt the tv system and mission system in general is that they get quite creative with them.

Did he mentioned that he was f2p ?