My 3 Biggest Investment Flops (Rolex, Cartier, F.P. Journe).

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Investing in watches. What a weird concept right? Christian and I talk about that all the time, how things have changed! Kinda. Anyways so of course you can invest in Rolex and Patek and AP but where did Christian go wrong? What about that Cartier Crash he had so long ago? What about the Hulk? Or the Royal Oak? Find out today!
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  • @TheoandHarris
    @TheoandHarris2 жыл бұрын

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  • @berrylee6787

    @berrylee6787

    2 жыл бұрын

    The risky watch is RM'S. NO WAY $400 WORTH OF CARBON IS WORTH $500,000. People are getting shot for their RM. They are a very trend happy watch. When the market crashing, crypto gets wacked there won't be any buyers for these watches. A watch you can't even wear it black tie without looking like a clown watch. Last show everyone was selling, not so much buying. Looking for normal. 36 mm is the perfect size

  • @wangox
    @wangox2 жыл бұрын

    Watches as investments is something i descpite. A watch is ment to be worn, not just bought and stored as a future investment.

  • @MPerry-ox9qb

    @MPerry-ox9qb

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s not simply a collector. He sells watches too. So it’s definitely important for him to make a profit.

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133

    @lonewolfemcquade8133

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm with you 💯 yeah I don't want to lose thousands after I buy a watch so I usually go for iconic models but for a investment putting in a safe and never wearing it? Hell 👎 NO buy and enjoy its that simple

  • @hans.lankamp
    @hans.lankamp2 жыл бұрын

    Video about the MoonSwatches coming soon? That Mars one looks the best imo, fun and interesting

  • @donkykon2094

    @donkykon2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    i love uranus brown and stinky

  • @Raphael-fn9dr

    @Raphael-fn9dr

    2 жыл бұрын

    “MoonSwatch” sounds so unimaginative, they should be called “Sweedy-s”, instead.

  • @garrinthewatchmaker

    @garrinthewatchmaker

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Raphael-fn9dr the sweedmaster

  • @Raphael-fn9dr

    @Raphael-fn9dr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@garrinthewatchmaker yes

  • @robchiofalo6138

    @robchiofalo6138

    2 жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @victorl225
    @victorl2252 жыл бұрын

    Christian, Freddie Mercury called, he wants his mustache back. I kid I kid, love the content

  • @jackd86
    @jackd862 жыл бұрын

    Why does Christian’s hair always look like a dropped soap

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a pretty active stock & options trader, and one thing I love about that VS watches: hedging. If a watch's value goes up and you're worried about it suddenly dropping in value, your only real option is is sell it. It's very binary; you sell or you hold. With stocks or options, if I have a solid gain and I'm worried about losing the profits but I don't want to outright sell the position, then I hedge! I buy a put option, short a call option, buy some VIX, etc. There's any number of ways I can protect the position from short term volatility and draw downs. Watches...there's just no way to do that. Maybe we need a watch derivatives market?....

  • @jdiluigi
    @jdiluigi2 жыл бұрын

    Congrats guys. Watch content that is informative while making me laugh Is right at that sweet spot.

  • @thehrethgir679
    @thehrethgir6792 жыл бұрын

    It's weird, green is my favorite color too, but I have no desire to own a watch with a green dial.

  • @Daniel-lg6cf
    @Daniel-lg6cf2 жыл бұрын

    Did I miss the second half of the Omega releases video?

  • @roamy3605
    @roamy36052 жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys. Sometimes I forget why I tune into the channel and then you start talking about some vintage watch that is way interesting. Maybe one that I might have bought or was seriously looking to buy. Such as the Rolex Fat Boy. Keep it real and keep doing the right thing!

  • @jokeassasin7733
    @jokeassasin77337 ай бұрын

    When a steel version of a watch hits the gold versions price, I'm 150% out. Some of those Patek steel prices reached absurdity.

  • @klickme888
    @klickme8882 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the discussion and prediction on the FP Journe Chronomètre Souverain very much. Just a few days ago I got a price quote for a Chronomètre Souverain MOP at 160K. The Havana dial version is such a beauty.

  • @daneconnelly
    @daneconnelly2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome conversations as always. Lots of people are seeing watches as investments these days, and there is no denying the money that is to be made if you have the pockets to do so. However I am sure that as watch enthusiasts we can also agree that there is an investment in how happy a watch makes you feel when you wear it. The investment in happiness would be an interesting conversation to hear your perspectives on.

  • @Rosay__
    @Rosay__2 жыл бұрын

    Great conversation as always…thanks guys…

  • @chuckandary7115
    @chuckandary71152 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the achievement keep up the good work

  • @cuckooforwatches382
    @cuckooforwatches3822 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the KZread plaque guys! Well deserved. Love the content. 🤓

  • @seansoobyiah9844
    @seansoobyiah98442 жыл бұрын

    Was just talking about the cartier crash just yesterday as one of my dream watches.

  • @lucasscheps-brown9218
    @lucasscheps-brown92182 жыл бұрын

    Just purchased a new medium Santos, how do you think it will do

  • @vincentbroeckx5872
    @vincentbroeckx58722 жыл бұрын

    Pfff a crash for 45k… Only in my dreams. I love that watch to bits

  • @loweewolwed9834
    @loweewolwed98342 жыл бұрын

    How in the hell could you miss the IWC Ingenieur that's actually an original Genta design? The Chopard AE a.k.a the St Moritz? This time you really got busted..

  • @jrab227
    @jrab2272 жыл бұрын

    I know it's all the rave but I can't take watches seriously as an investment. Maybe as inflation adjusted heirlooms it makes sense, but only if your outlook is more than a decade. If you want to effectively lock in a value, you're in a good place in life to part ways with that money and you don't have to think about it, and you have no intension of selling the watch for more than 10 years (and it's from a reputable brand and maybe fine metals), *then* watches maybe are an investment. I think liquidity is the main factor. Everyone thinks they have paper gains and are rich when the market is great, but the problem is in market conditions when it's time to sell a watch because you need cash, everyone else is also selling watches and you can't find buyers at the price you want. You're a forced seller in a market with no real buyers. Think 2008 when people were trying to sell anything to cover their mortgages. I'd rather think of my collection of watches as heirlooms to pass down to family members.

  • @inspectorBob88

    @inspectorBob88

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re not wrong but having landed a sub date from AD in 2021 it’s hard to ignore the appreciation. Also there’s more millionaires than ever, recession doesn’t hit everyone the same. Hard to say it’s not the new normal with a larger wealthy class in the game hunting too.

  • @jethrojacinto2798

    @jethrojacinto2798

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nailed it right on the head with this comment.

  • @thetruebatman4632

    @thetruebatman4632

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro i’m with you. I recently have become obsessed with horological history and the different specs of watches but I can’t take the “investment pieces” seriously at all. To be fair though, Bitcoin still makes me laugh if that tells you anything about my investment knowledge.

  • @Arc1517

    @Arc1517

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the vast majority of watches are NOT investments. Allocated and discontinued PP, Rolex and AP are fairly safe. They will likely drop from crazy highs but I do believe new norms will be established. eg: Hulks may not be $30K in two years, but you won’t ever buy a Hulk for 8500-10k again. You just won’t because the readily available alternatives have upstreamed so much too. With Royal Oaks and Nautalis where there are at, Rolex sport watches at 30K kinda make sense. So when the top dogs fall a bit, so will the others. But again, I think a Royal Oak probably has a floor around 30K at this point, which would bring a Hulk back down to say 17K. There are simply enough people who want certain models and dealers with deep pockets don’t need to rush sell their inventory.

  • @Aiasmor

    @Aiasmor

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @Josh-nf4ee
    @Josh-nf4ee21 күн бұрын

    21:54 killed me haha

  • @albertocampesato1308
    @albertocampesato13082 жыл бұрын

    Who you think buys Genta sketches..I mean what type of person? collector? Investor? Art dealer? Great content anyhow

  • @shey5501
    @shey55012 жыл бұрын

    Congrats guys you deserve it.

  • @jonnyrotten8095
    @jonnyrotten80957 ай бұрын

    I also do not understand wy they do not make the octo finissimo in....35/36 mm. They could sell thousands ! Omega, Rolex, Breitling etc did it ! And by the way, it tooks me some time to find a wellfitting AP R0 in 33 mm from 2004 (15000ST, designed by Mme. J. Dimier herself). Perfect proportions and fits my whrist so good ! Let's go Signore Buonamassa !

  • @michaelhansen1903
    @michaelhansen19032 жыл бұрын

    Congrats, boys!

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133
    @lonewolfemcquade81332 жыл бұрын

    I love Zenith I need to add a Zenith chronomaster tri color 42mm and a Zenith tipo cp2 43mm in the future

  • @shaheenevans
    @shaheenevans2 жыл бұрын

    Rose gold yachty is spot on !

  • @johanneshansen483
    @johanneshansen4832 жыл бұрын

    Hi Asim, have you heard about the new moonswatch?

  • @mattlambert5079
    @mattlambert50792 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I can’t stand the way that circular bezel transitions to an octagon dial on the BVGLARI -or just all the dead space in general. Not for me.

  • @davidevans8505
    @davidevans850510 ай бұрын

    Curious now that hulks are trading so much lower what you think?

  • @loganbarr853
    @loganbarr8532 жыл бұрын

    Magic spoon is the shit!!!!!!! I ordered it the last time y’all showed it.

  • @robchiofalo6138
    @robchiofalo61382 жыл бұрын

    Talk about the Omega x Swatch Collab !! 🔥🔥

  • @namelessrace9803
    @namelessrace98032 жыл бұрын

    Hulks weren't very interesting years ago and that trend will come back...if you can get 25k to 30k for it, I recommend you do it because that will be a money dump eventually imo...

  • @scottc6946
    @scottc69462 жыл бұрын

    A word of advice concerning investments: don’t count your chickens before they hatched

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner2 жыл бұрын

    21:00 - Interesting discussion

  • @charlieallen9565
    @charlieallen95652 жыл бұрын

    Nice shout to my dude Badartnicewatch for his sketch!!

  • @shaheenevans
    @shaheenevans2 жыл бұрын

    Keeping my hulk too!

  • @mattyreardon3593
    @mattyreardon35932 жыл бұрын

    What happened to the price of high horology during WW2?

  • @RrR__RrR
    @RrR__RrR2 жыл бұрын

    Could you just talk about the plastic omegas already, thank you!

  • @-Jason-L

    @-Jason-L

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let's not fool ourselves. Its still a swatch, not a plastic omega

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133

    @lonewolfemcquade8133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like it's not being talked about enough already

  • @kyle_vr
    @kyle_vr2 жыл бұрын

    Oris, Sinn or Nomos. Best first (sub-luxury) watch under 2,000? 🤔 EDIT: An 'All-rounder' already have a dive watch.

  • @brett2396

    @brett2396

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends what you want. Diver, sports, everyday, or dress?

  • @shey5501

    @shey5501

    2 жыл бұрын

    sinn 556i

  • @brett2396

    @brett2396

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does the all-rounder need to dress up?

  • @kyle_vr

    @kyle_vr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brett2396 Ideally - not a complete tool watch I suppose.

  • @brett2396

    @brett2396

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyle_vr most offerings from Oris and Sinn will lean heavily into the tool watch category. Nomos has a bunch of offerings but most are more in the dress watch category and aren’t that durable for every abuse. Do you mind buying preowned?

  • @borjator2996
    @borjator29962 жыл бұрын

    Watch out there is a scammer contacting everyone posting messages ….

  • @gaffs82
    @gaffs825 ай бұрын

    Imagine paying 40k for a Hulk. 😂

  • @adamsouthard1155
    @adamsouthard11552 жыл бұрын

    The Mickey is a retrograde movement. It's going to be expensive just based on mechanical complexity. I deeply dislike Disney. I think the Mickey watch is extremely cool and would be way cooler if it had some other mascot on it. Or no mascot - just the movement.

  • @renatorocha8274
    @renatorocha82742 жыл бұрын

    You forgot piaget with the polo S

  • @jethrojacinto2798
    @jethrojacinto27982 жыл бұрын

    Hearing the words "watch" and "investment" are such a turn off especially for true horologists. I get the trend now is looking for pieces that can increase or at least hold their value in the after market but I believe that's the problem with the overall luxury watch market right now especially with people just wanted to buy and flip all the Big 3 (Rolex, PP, AP). I think people have come to realize that they can put their money on these "tangible assets" and treat it like the stock market or crypto in a way, which definitely ruins the experience for genuine collectors and just people who wants that singular piece to give it either to themselves or to a loved one. Crazy world we live in now.

  • @Arc1517
    @Arc15172 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree on the Hulk. I had the opportunity to buy 3 from AD over the course of time and only bought one. It’s my daily wear and the issue with selling it at $28K now is there isn’t a good substitute. I highly doubt a Hulk drops back down into the teens, unless Rolex throws a green dial on the new sub line immediately, which would be dumb. Rolex is good at keeping ppl wanting what they can’t get.

  • @Arc1517

    @Arc1517

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Yorkiepoocharlie they could. I don’t see it happening this year but maybe I’ll be eating my words next week. Time will tell

  • @Arc1517

    @Arc1517

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Yorkiepoocharlie no new hulk. I think we’ll see a gold hulk before we see a steel hulk again.

  • @sonnymorgan4680
    @sonnymorgan46802 жыл бұрын

    Wearing a Mickey Mouse watch is a nice way to remind yourself, not to take yourself too serious.

  • @felixmarks9352
    @felixmarks93522 жыл бұрын

    Cartier chras is simetric like Rolex Daytona ..

  • @jball1975
    @jball19752 жыл бұрын

    I miss Anna.

  • @darienilham
    @darienilham2 жыл бұрын

    Loving the new thumbnails

  • @QualityTimeWatches
    @QualityTimeWatches2 жыл бұрын

    I will not be the 4th😎⌚️✌️

  • @Max-trek
    @Max-trek2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Christian what happened to Anna ???????????

  • @michaelriera6277

    @michaelriera6277

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re right haven’t seen her in ages

  • @michaelriera6277

    @michaelriera6277

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re right haven’t seen her in ages

  • @michaelriera6277

    @michaelriera6277

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re right haven’t seen her in ages

  • @michaelriera6277

    @michaelriera6277

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re right haven’t seen her in ages

  • @michaelriera6277

    @michaelriera6277

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah you’re right haven’t seen her in ages

  • @BabyJesus66
    @BabyJesus662 жыл бұрын

    Biggest score grey market dealers.

  • @justinfletcher7630
    @justinfletcher763011 ай бұрын

    So neither of your names are theo or Harris?

  • @francoisbm6785
    @francoisbm67852 жыл бұрын

    F.P. Journe are a lot more safe investment than Rolex. FPJ are perfect and made in small quantity so regardless it will go up. Rolex are made in much higher numbers, the risk with the Hulk is let's say Rolex bring it back with better movement etc. people will look for the newer better watch.

  • @100kmp
    @100kmp2 жыл бұрын

    Havanna is better than the Blue? How have you seen a Brown Sky? or Brown water? A white Rolls? Yeah if you are getting married... Next thing you be saying that you want to date Joan Collins You guys are young, NOT old men.

  • @m.e.p.r
    @m.e.p.r2 жыл бұрын

    First

  • @Sam-be4yy
    @Sam-be4yy2 жыл бұрын

    Slow on the moonswatch news

  • @laurencefahey2085
    @laurencefahey20852 жыл бұрын

    Please stop drinking when your Mike is on , it sounds gross 🤮

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