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The Orthodox Church is Heaven on Earth.

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

What scripture says this or where can I learn about this?

@Elite_Orthodox

23 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeaks The pattern of Orthodox worship is based on the worship in Heaven as seen in the Bible, which includes an altar, incense, chanting, and so on (Is. 6 & 7; Heb. 8:1-6; Rev. 4, 5)…I personally recommend you get this book (Orthodox Worship: A Living Continuity with the Temple, the Synagogue and the Early Church)…Glory to Jesus Christ! I hope God’s grace opens you to greater depths my friend.

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

@@Elite_Orthodox amen brother thank so much for the recommendations, I’m starting to realise the depth of Jesus and the faith. It’s beautiful. Blessings from London brother 🙏

@TheItalianMan88

23 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeakswere you shaking cause of the spirit and energy

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

@@TheItalianMan88 I’m not sure bro It was nothing crazy but I felt Idek what to call it other than shakes haha

Orthodoxy is life, not just going to church.... living the church

@sammyog3475

17 күн бұрын

Orthodoxy is life, it is not religion, it is Truth. God bless.

You are making the right move here. I am 23, also from the UK. Orthodoxy has given me nothing but blessings since I was baptised 3 years ago:

Born into Greek Orthodoxy I did not appreciate how lucky I was when I was younger. Now that I am older and understand my faith much better I am not only lucky but honored to have been born into the original church of Christ and one that has not changed. Make the change and get baptized and you will have prepared your soul for eternity.

@HubertofLiege

20 күн бұрын

I recently learned your what’s called a “revert” lol

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

I had experienced the Orthodox Church a bit in Russia, but i first started going to the Greek church in my home town when i was helping my parents for a while. After a few weeks there i told some of them that i didn't want to be rude or presumptuous, and i knew it had always been in their lives, but i was an outsider new to it all, and i wasn't sure they understood the depth of the treasure they had.. My eyes water as i remember those times. My husband and i were received into a church connected to Russia. J LOVE the Greek services but we also loved the Russian ones and the music which i get to sing.

@petekarageorgos5777

20 күн бұрын

@@lindaphillips4646 once you convert it’s tho as if you were born into it . There is no difference. Actually we who were born into it carry more a because we do not appreciate it while those who chose it are in my eyes way better then us.

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

​@@petekarageorgos5777you may be right Pete. But i have learned much from my cradle-Orthodox friends about how to live in the Church. Both the men and the women have been great blessings for us. We converts often have had serious struggles as we searched for and found the Truth. We do feel that blessing. ☦💝📿💝☦ CRISTOS ANESTI!

@petekarageorgos5777

20 күн бұрын

@@lindaphillips4646 Alithis Anesti

After a 40+ years of an intense spiritual search, I've recently had the same experience with the Orthodox church as you are having. I was baptized in Oct of last year. As I participate in the sacraments, prayer, fasting and the life of the church, I can literally feel myself changing and being set free. It really is the True church. I'm happy to see so many young people being guided into Christ's Holy church. May God bless you in your journey.

@Jac0bspeaks

20 күн бұрын

Glory to God!

Glory to God, dude! May He bless you on your journey. I went from a Protestant Bible college that I respect, and now am Orthodox, and it was utterly life changing. "Further up and further in."

Converted to Holy Orthodoxy from Protestantism about 5 years ago. I appreciate my time and the people in Protestantism, but it has been an incredible spiritual journey. It is like the different between spiritual milk and the full meat and potatoes. I can only recommend continuing to engage and be a part of the life of the Church as much as possible without rushing into anything. God bless!

The Orthodox hold the scriptures in high regard, as they are the same Church who compiled all the books into one cannon (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit). The Bible can not be divorced from the Church that put her together. Christianity is an entire package.

@user-wf9fu3os8o

18 күн бұрын

what was the name of that church when the books were compiled?

@pelagonianlion8276

18 күн бұрын

@@user-wf9fu3os8o it was the one holy Catholic and apostolic church. It had councils, ordained bishops with apostolic succession, real presence in the eucharist, baptismal regeneration, prayers to saints, prayers for the departed. It was the same church as the Eastern Orthodox Church today.

@user-wf9fu3os8o

18 күн бұрын

​@@pelagonianlion8276 you know the st augustine quote i wanna quote right

I’m from Australia- Married to a Greek Orthodox man and don’t speak Greek. Get the translation book of The Divine Liturgy and the service will be even more powerful. God is good! Keep praying 🙏 God will show you the Truth.

@theodorapantelich2535

15 күн бұрын

Definitely agree! My church does half Greek, half English, and I'd be lost in the Greek sections without a translation to follow!

You are on the right path. I was born Orthodox, but had to reestablish my personal relationship with Christ. I asked God to show me the truth, and if He was true, i wanted to be with Him. And He did. That is when i realized the Truth was there the whole time, that was the only place i felt at home. Im a much stronger orthodox Christian as a result of this experience.

Glory to God, I'm a recently baptized convert who attends an Antiochian Orthodox Church (and a ROCOR parish with friends every so often), certainly Orthodoxy is a wondrous thing, and i hope you continue your journey in faith and love As for the chairs, most churches in the "old country" (historically Orthodox places) actually have none! In the west, to accomodate many who arent used to standing for so long, chairs and (as is the case for my parish) pews were introduced as a concession to the people. This, the standing, is a tradition that speaks to the great respect we have for God, and Christs ability to truly make is *stand* before God, which is a wonderous thing if you think about it, the Apostles fell to their knees with their heads to the ground at the sight of Christ's transfiguration, and yet we can stand before the very Mysteries (meaning the Eucharist) which are Christ Himself!

@tania8749

21 күн бұрын

True! All churches in my area have no chairs, that seems to be the norm

@randomguy1453

21 күн бұрын

@tania8749 the ones in my area (I've been to a few just to see if there really were any substantive differences, there weren't, the presence of chairs was quite literally the most noticeable difference haha) are pretty much 50/50 when it comes to chairs, though they seem to be far less prevalent in the ROCOR than Antioch or Greek churches There's even a WR parish near me, however it is Antiochian rather than ROCOR, which tends to have poor policing on certain RC practices that worm their way in (sacred heart for example), God willing Antioch will start doing something about that as the WR becomes more widespread, from what I've heard ROCORs WR is fantastically done (and, unlike the Antiochian variation, didn't have most of its funding pulled :p )

@ChristIsLord29499

20 күн бұрын

Unfortunately Rocor has become a schism, the Rocor Synod stopped commemorating Patriarch Kirill for political reasons and thats not allowed by the Church Canons

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

Yes, basically pews are a prtnst introduction because of all the preaching in them.. And there isn't much need to move around in prnst services..

Christ is risen! Χριστός Ανέστη! ☦

@erri4433

15 күн бұрын

Indeed he is risen!

I was born Orthodox and I still research it today. Each day I learn something new and its very satisfying to make connections. Everything makes sense. God bless you on your journey. Subscribed.

All the best on your journey to Christ and His Church. I was just baptized on Lazarus Saturday, best decision I've ever made. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of GOD, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Orthodoxy is not about making followers, but making Saints

The beauty of the Orthodox church is to better reflect gods glory.

Christ is Risen ! Your experience expresses my what I have found in the Eastern Orthodox Church . The fullness of the faith is life changing . The reverence , authenticity , Holy Tradition make the journey limitless . Glory to God .

I think Orthodox is a great thing, though it may cost me some friends I think I will come to Orthodoxy I know Christianity gets a lot thrown at it more than any other religion but the sacrifice is worth it, for my own well-being

God Bless you, brother! I was an atheist for several years, after a long journey, I came full circle to the Orthodox church, I will be chrismated in June of this year. Good luck on your journey.

@evans3922

14 күн бұрын

Glory to God... Blessings

Greetings from Christian Orthodox Cyprus! where lazarous, the friend of Jesus lived and died for the second time here in the city of kition( now Larnaca).Here he was appointed by Paul the Apostle and Barnabas as the first bishop of Kition.

Orthodox Church feels Holy it humbles a person ...

Glory to God for all things Jacob! A few friends of mine here in Sydney have gone to St John the Baptist Monastery in Essex and have said they would go back to England just to be there again. Also, the founder of the monastery, St Sophrony of Essex who departed from this world in 1993 has left his grace-filled spirit with the current Abbot, Elder Zacharias who has plenty of books and talks on KZread that you can search up. God be with you always

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

Wow, that place looks amazing. It’s not too far from me. God willing I’m able to visit st John the Baptist monastery, would be a great experience. Never the less, I’ll look up the guy your saying

@SayanTheChristian

22 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeaksChrist is Risen! DEFINITELY go on pilgrimage to St John the Baptist’s monastery in Essex my brother. May the Holy Trinity guide you to the True Church

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

​@@Jac0bspeakstake those of us who can't go with you please.

@LambdaCalculator

19 күн бұрын

​​​@@Jac0bspeaksSt Sophrony is great. There's a really good lecture series playlist on him and his spiritual father (St Silouan) by Mount Thabor Academy here on YT that makes for a good catechism as well.

This is so cool that you are choosing to journey into orthodoxy. I love orthodoxy. The church is so beautiful. Every time I'm at liturgy, I feel so enveloped in peace and love. It makes me feel.....still. Consider watching Roots of Orthodoxy on KZread. It's a cool series on several different ortho priests around the country(US) being interviewed.

Welcome to Orthodoxy! May He bless your journey and you.

Brudda this is beautiful. I remember just feeling the liturgy was so holy my first time going last year, nothing like it fr. The Lord continue to guide you. God Bless.

happy to hear that a nother brother comes to the right path

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

Blessing brother 🙏

Glory to God! ☦️☦️☦️ The lectures are called catechism. And you will be called a catechumen during this time. Catechism is essential because in Orthodoxy first you learn about Christ and afterwards that you have the information and the understanding you freely choose to get baptised or not. Christ chose you to get into his -real- Church. Glory to God. Don’t hesitate to make as many questions as you want during the upcoming lectures. I sent you lots of love. (A humble servant of the Lord, Katerina)

Amazing news! I wish you well on your journey! ☦️

I felt the same way you did many times in the Orthodox Church. The catechism class is to help you understand the church and to create a strong Christian - so that you are prepared for participation in the church and its traditions and understand how it can help transform you. I was baptized last month after about 8 months as a catechumen. It’s the best decision I ever made. You won’t regret it.

That "feeling" you described is like being suspended between heaven and earth 🕊️🌹

God bless you! I'm very happy for you! When you find time, visit the Mount Athos in Greece. You' ll feel the blessings and love of God and Holy Mother and all the Saints of our Church..

Beautiful to here man. You’ve motivated myself to finally go and attend an Orthodox Church this weekend and possible record a same type of video to give hope to other people about the experiences of joining the Orthodox Church. Pray for me as I will pray for you all 🙏🏽 have a blessed day

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

Nick, last Saturday night into Sunday morning, was PASCHA. (Easter), in the Orthodox Church. This week is called Bright Week. Some churches have services during it. This coming Sunday is called Thomas Sunday, because we hear the Gospel account of St. Thomas, whose hesitation to believe helped to confirm the belief for all of us. During the 40 days of Pascha you will hear songs, hymns, prayers that you won't hear at other times during the year.. And you will hear CHRIST IS RISEN! repeated over and over again! ☦💝📿💝☦

Love your honest expression. When you can, look at the church calendar. Every service is based in gospel and the entire life of Christ is recounted over the course of the year.

Hey welcome to orthodoxy! The reason why on Easter Sunday they were doing the service in so many languages is bcs they represent the spreading of the news, of the resurrection for Christ. Its symbolic, emphasising the need to spread the word of God. Hope you continue your journey in the Orthodox Church.

Pace yourself on your journey home to Orthodoxy brother, there’s a lot in just the basics. Learn the prayer rule and practice the walk

Originally, people were baptized the same day - for fear they might actually die later that day for being Christian. Today, there are tens of thousands of counterfeits, and some people like to shop around. In my opinion, the Catechumen process has become longer for a few reasons: 1. It’s a serious commitment (as you’d expect from the true church) and not to be taken lightly. 2. It’s for life, not for dabblers. 3. It gives someone the time to make 100% sure it’s right for them, with the option to back out.

Happy to hear you enjoyed your second stay Jacob! And I would love to see updates and these little videos of your process going into the church and learning more. Also fun fact the Orthodox Church is growing tremendously at the moment like it hasn’t seen in a while and I think this says something to the spiritual food bit you we’re talking about where the Orthodox Church is the real spiritual food that the world needs at the moment. The last true church that doesn’t change its values over time and doesn’t conform to societal values

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

Yeah, I’ve only been 2 orthadox churches but they were packed out! Was amazing to see. Yeah man words getting out in the spirit that it’s the way. Yeah bro I’ll be consistently making videos brother 🙏☦️ my brother in the comments mention St. John the Baptist monastery in Essex, which isn’t too far from me. God willing I can visit there and make a video about the experience, he said it’s amazing. God bless 🙏

My wife and I plan on visiting our local parish very soon - also in the UK. We had to leave the Anglican Church -- for probably obvious reasons!

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

We just celebrated PASCHA! This coming Sunday is called Thomas Sunday.. These 40 days are filled with joy and hymns you only hear during this time.. ☦💝📿💝☦

I understand the physical sensations you felt! When I was officially made a catechumen, I felt chills and electric sensations running all over my body that lasted for days! And finally baptism did something I can't describe. But the Orthodox Church respects the body as part of who and what we are, and I feel like changes that I don't understand have been happening in my body even since I started attending Orthodox church.

Congratulations brother. I have been a catechumen the past few months and was (somewhat spontaneously even) confirmed into the orthodox church last Sunday on Pascha. Feels like a life changing event.

Christ is Risen!!!!

There is smth on your blanket moving. Is that a cat? 😁 Anyway i am so happy how many young people are coming to Orthodoxy. Waaa!!! Also good channel is Living Orthodox by fr. Mikhail. Also Kyle channel. And Unto Ages. New channel but amazing!

You went to the Sunday Afternoon service, the Pascal Service(Easter) was at midnight

Be well in your journey into Orthodoxy, it will surely glorify God. “Orthodoxy is what Christ taught, the Apostles preached, and the Father’s kept.” Saint Athanasius the Great

Christ is Risen! God Bless You and your journey to the one true church! Pray for those that are missing out on the fullness of the Faith… that they take their first steps into the church of Christ. ☦️

Glory to God.

You are so sincere and original. I am very happy for your experience

I want to go to an orthodox church too but I feel strange because its such an intimate thing and I dont know anybody there.

@Jac0bspeaks

22 күн бұрын

Nah bro, trust me it’s an amazing experience. It’s not about what people think, it’s between you and the father. It’s for God not your own reputation. I really recommend it brother

@Kaytee-miow

22 күн бұрын

Please go. Yes, observe your fellows around you, but God is meeting YOU there. The other adults will have zero interest interfering in your meeting with Him, as we are busy meeting with Him intimately also, just as you desire. The children will be being the kids they are and their parents may be walking around with them, but God is also meeting them and they, Him ! Peace and prayers xxx Come and See

@wjckc79

22 күн бұрын

I felt the same way. Take the plunge and you won't regret it. I am a catechumen. Best decision I ever made. Don't worry about following along with any formalities you don't understand. You can always make an appointment to talk to a priest first. I did.

@daphnepearce9411

21 күн бұрын

Just jump in by yourself. In fact, that might be better than bringing someone along who might distract you or rush you out of the church. Just quietly observe. Then talk to people afterwards. We have so many new people show up every Sunday.....and they stay, ha ha!

@lindaphillips4646

20 күн бұрын

We just celebrated PASCHA! CHRIST IS RISEN!Just remember the MILLIONS through years who have walked into these churches alone but did not stay strangers for long.. Don't worry if it seems strange at first. How could it not be unusual for you? But soon it will feel like home in a way you never could have imagined. These 40 days are very very special. ☦💝📿💝☦

Congratulations!! Welcome to faith!!

CHRIST IS RISEN! Glory to GOD! Please pay a visit to St Andrew church (Orthodox) in Kentish Town...there are many young converts and also the priest is a convert and a very good teacher/preacher.

Христос Воскресе!

So happy for you

Icon of St George is about sacrifice in regards to rejection of draconian laws. It wasn't easy for me to do what Orthodox do in regards to those pictures till I started treating them as history lessons . Oh yeah I'm a blue collar worker from Sydney Australia. Blessings to you for your journey called life .

God bless your journey and the videos you will put out about it.

You chose well joining the Greek Orthodox Church... God bless you

Christ is Risen! God Bless you on your journey! The Hierarch was refering to is being a Catechumen which is best described to being Engaged to Christ, while Holy Baptism, Chrismation and first Communion is being married to Christ. It's ultimately up to the Spiritual Father on how long but generally around a year give or take. As a Catechumen it's just as important to start living the Orthodox ascetical life (prayer, fasting, ect) as having knowlege about God, the teachings of The Church. I'd recomend Inquirers find a local church, and keep showing up to services and in the Divine Liturgy, Vespers and such listen to what's being said. Our Liturgy is the best Catechist since our hymnology and Liturgies are rich with theology and examples from the Saints. The Divine Liturgy is so much more than you realize, it is in reality our literal entering in and participation on the Eternal Heavenly Liturgy, There are stories of people being able to see past the curtian and see more of what's going on. That's why we are so reverent and aware of our unworthiness in participating in such fantastic things. I'm also a former anglican (from the States oddly enough) and always got that superficial empty feeling, where everything was big cold and empty, and from my First Divine Liturgy everything while grand and fantastic was warm and close feeling, the deeper I got into the Jesus Prayer and into my own heart, the grander everything around me felt. It's something that the more I think about it the the more I can't wait for the next Liturgy, the more I look back with fondness. I confuse my protestant friends and family when I say that I look back with much more fondness and admoration on the adverage weekly liturgy than say the Advengers: Endgame Movie, or this great concert and I only find myself really thinking back on the last Liturgy and never modern once in a lifetime events. I the unworthy one am given such a blessing to find such joy in such things, to be given an unexplainable joy and longing? Glory to God! All that said It's not unusral for us converts and Glorify Him for it. Keep going! -T "Aquire the Spirit of Peace and a thousond around you will convert" -Saint Saraphim of Sarav

Dead brother you are home, Get baptized. Join the church be with Christs Bride, You are home ☦️

God bless you man. I wish you all the best in your journey

You do realise that if you do decide to begin this journey that knowledge of the Greek language is key. Mainly because reading the bible in the language that it was written will give you a deeper insight and understanding of what the Church is about and will help you to embrace and be embraced within the folds of the Greek Orthodox faith ❤

I didn't realise there are Orthodox churches in England. I'm around the same age as you and in England.

@Jac0bspeaks

17 күн бұрын

Yeah bro theres tones. Im based in london so there might be a few more where i am but the only struggle i have right now is finding an english speaking on as they do their services in greek so its hard to understand but never the less i take it in for what it is

@christianorthodoxy4769

15 күн бұрын

​@@Jac0bspeaksBrother I sent you email/emails Check your inbox or spam box hopefully you can see them.. may you grow in knowledge' and wisdom" that only Almighty' GOD can give you and discernment.* ♥️🕊️

Very happy for you, my brother!

God be with you on your quest. Keep going!

Hey Jacob, my brother. I'm based close to you. SW London. Let me know if you ever want to join me at the eastern orthodox church.

I’m so amped for you! Glory to God

Stay strong, brother. ☦ Christ is risen!

Many channels on KZread that can help you on your journey ☦️☦️☦️ into the Ancient Faith ☦️☦️☦️

I go to that Church in the thumbnail! Is that the one you attended? Anyway welcome to the journey brother!

Les go brother ❤❤❤

AMEN!❤❤❤

God bless you.

❤

I wish you good luck on your journey

Excited for you bro. Idk if you can but try visiting some Greek Orthodox monasteries in the states. They’re so beautiful and the feeling is even more powerful

@Jac0bspeaks

20 күн бұрын

United States? I’ve visited 2 different Greek orthadox churches so far, I’m sure I can find a beautiful one in London

@melverys

20 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeaks for sure I’m just saying monasteries are a different vibe

@Jac0bspeaks

20 күн бұрын

@@melverys ima deffo check it out bro

Keep going and you’ll notice very subtle things. God bless you

Amen brother!

☦️☦️☦️

You'll be a catechumen.. literally "learner" from the normal verb catekhein, to learn. Yes, you've got it: the Church ALWAYS takes in pilgrims by teaching first, or what's the point? This is where "cradle Orthodox" like myself can be at a disadvantage if they don't get to go to temple or Sunday school. (Yes, we call the building temple, naos, hram etc: the church or ekklesia is the people inside... but nobody minds at all, language changes!)

In your previous video you mentioned a guy named Nekatrios, and mentioned that he had a youtube channel. What's his channel called?

@Jac0bspeaks

23 күн бұрын

ananda apologetics

@reubenmedina

23 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeaks ahh, ik him alrdy thanks

@wjckc79

22 күн бұрын

There is another recent KZread channel called UNTO AGES. They have like six videos, and I would consider it to be essential material. They also recommend some other Orthodox related channels.

@reubenmedina

22 күн бұрын

@@wjckc79 Yes I've actually come across them, already have them subscribed.

Question: When we ssk saint to pray for us, do we ask from the apostles only as they were chosen by God? Because I know we cant ask for prayers from the dead ☦️❓️

@makanaima

20 күн бұрын

I would just add to this that a Saint is not a mediator - they are not between you and God. Asking a saint to pray for you is the same as asking a friend to pray for you. They are praying for you, and with you. The other thing to note is that in Orthodoxy, there is a difference between prayer and worship. Prayer is communication, not worship. Worship is reserved for God alone. Just as you can pick up the phone and speak to a loved one, you can use prayer to speak to a Saint or the Theotokos.

@supergrannyep1411

19 күн бұрын

@makanaima just a quick question, can we ask only apostles?

@felixmuller7551

18 күн бұрын

@@supergrannyep1411No you can ask every saint because God revealed the saints through the miracle during their life and even afterwards.The apostles were chosen by Christ yes, but that’s the same with the other saints.And their miracles bear witness to that

👀

Christ is risen!

@Hope_Boat

21 күн бұрын

In truth He is risen.

1 Timothy 3:15

@Jac0bspeaks

22 күн бұрын

🙏

Christ is Risen! I am delighted that you are interested in investigating and perhaps joining the Greek Orthodox Church. I myself am a Greek Catholic And our services are identical to the Greek Orthodox however we are united with Pope Francis in Rome. I’m not sure if there is a church of our rite in England, but you may want to check it out. Blessings!

Where is the footage

@Jac0bspeaks

21 күн бұрын

I didn’t film anything, the photo in the thumbnail is a pic I took tho. I felt weird recording, I didn’t want people thinking I was just there to take photos and not worship yk what I mean

Christus Rex, Non Nobis Domine

Some have no chairs, pews, etc...

@shobudski6776

22 күн бұрын

My Orthodox Church has no pews. We stand during Liturgy.

@DCCrisisclips

21 күн бұрын

@@shobudski6776 How? We have seats to sit down when we are allowed too

@daphnepearce9411

21 күн бұрын

​@DCCrisisclips In my church most of us stand during the whole liturgy, during the sermon we'll sit on the floor. There are benches along the walls for the elderly to sit.

Hey there brother ! I would try to "boost" your understanding of Church and Divine liturgy : For the Church (Orthodox, of course), the foundation of identity is the living Christ, present in the liturgy (in the bread and wine, i.e., in the body and blood) and NOT THE HOLY SCRIPTURE! The Holy Scripture has originated from the Orthodox Church and is interpreted only within the Church and never outside of it. Sola Scriptura is nonsense! It's like interpreting a book while ignoring the author - reading out of context. Protestant sects think they understand the Holy Scripture, but in fact, they are only "concerned" with the covers of the Holy Scripture - they have no clue about the essence! Because they have not understood the basic Greek text in which the Scripture is written. In fact, they are unaware of this fact. From this, it is easy to conclude that protestant theology have no idea what the Church itself is - for them, the church is a social organization, to be humorous let's say - a form of a cultural and artistic society. They do not know that the Church is the mystical body of Christ, and when Christ comes at the moment of communion, we would be like bees on the comb - we eat and drink Him and unite most closely with Him! If you have any other question - feel free to ask

Bible only = protestant. By science first you got the teaching / speech and then you got the writings p.e. the history of Pelloponisian war described by Thucidides. Hear the withnesses then write the books. Protestands are first the book! and not the speaking / oral tradition. Apostles had teaching which then became books. This is the "Paradosis", the tradition of speech in the church. Even if there was no new testament, just the comments of the saints in their books about the testament, give us the testament. The oral speaking was the testament. Other example. The holy books of the Hindu, as the Homer Iliad, first was oral songs. After many many years this both became books. But now, protestants know better. The church as a whole had the teachings as oral tradition and new which books were false when they were written down. Protestands came after and "only bible" is actually the books that the orthodox have declared as "true". How could the protestands knew which books were true without the oral tradition given to them? In the orthodox church there is the tradition of the story of Virgin Mary eventhought there is wasnt no book about her. The protestand first or only book is a true point against this heresy, and when you will read Orthodox books against protestantism you will get far more things to understand. It is a pitty the west didnt had a christianity. What it had was the political power of pope which caused all the heresies. Keep in mind. Every heresy is actually a combination of political move. Pope political move to be "free" from Konstantinopole, Protestands to free Germany from Pope, agglikan to free england from Pope and where Kings became "bishops". Funny situation. The political leaders of England became first-priests! The first political disorder against Christ? The choose of Barabas vs Christ. Baravas was a political revolter against Roman rule, Christ was not a political revolter. And this is the 1st nationalism in the New Testament. the picking up / prefearing the political leader of Jews vs Jesus God. The succes on earth via human power vs God Power. A teaching also of protestantism... Modern nationalisms do the same. Change the church in order to serve an ethnic state and not God. If you search more you will get it... God Speed....

γιαυτο πεσανε ξανα τα καντηλια χθες!

It's too pagan for me. 🗿

@felixmuller7551

18 күн бұрын

Im guessing your talking about icon veneration? if so , that was already discussed during the 7th ecumenical council were all the Iconoclasts were anathema.So come up with new „arguments„ against the church instead of reusing heresies from the first 1000 years👍

@gabrielleangelica1977

18 күн бұрын

@@felixmuller7551 They still stand with Judaism and Islam. The Hebrew bible doesn't change. Human sacrifice, body and blood Communion cannibalism and polytheism of the Trinity.

you do realize He needs no temple yes?...read the script and see no images either...but live as He lived...that simple...love as He loved...includes His Sabbath and diet BTW because HIS Word/Torah He gave His church at Sinai DID became flesh to demonstrate what He intended at Sinai...the lifestyle His followers live by...THAT IS THE POINT of His becoming flesh DEMONSTRATE the possible CHANGE our faith in Him makes to a repentance/return to Him...is why we are to love as He loved us...His bride...obedient to Him His ways... Paul says "He doesn't need the temple" Acts 17:24 as does Stephen too Acts 7:48 because Isaiah did Is 66:1-2 as Solomon did 1 Kings 8:27 because He was happy under carpets 1 Chronicles 17:6 But David wanted the temple...which was destroyed for being misused...and all those images He commissioned... oh and His Spirit His GLORY was NOT in the second temple as the holy of holies was empty no ikon there crazy what's so pretty in those churches is abominable to Him...but even Eve saw that which was forbidden her as pleasing to her eyes...Cain SAW the work of his hands as worthy worship...

@Jac0bspeaks

22 күн бұрын

Then Joshua tore his clothes, and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD until evening, he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust on their heads. (Joshua 7:6) And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends. 20 The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover. Exodus 25:18 We can see Joshua fell on his face for the whole of the evening (prayer position) before the Ark of God which Moses created when God told him to in exodus. It’s all biblical brother And the orthadox church is the body of Christ where he dwells and we are in his house. Ur right we don’t have to go church but I want to go church haha

@tomy2988

22 күн бұрын

@@Jac0bspeaks Amen brother. ☦️

@Martin-hd2tr

21 күн бұрын

Saying "I don't need the church" is pretty much denying the incarnation. Might aswell swap Jesus for Buddha or Krishna at that point, treating him either as a good example or some celestial spiritual entity. Jesus was incarnate in a particular time and place in our human history and he established his church here as His body. And we can participate in his Body through the sacraments that make us part of his Body and his Body part of ourselves. You can say "oh I can just pray to Jesus spiritually and follow his ideals" and that's fine but it's missing a huge part of the point of christianity which is incarnation.

Like it or not but the true Church Jesus started is the Catholic Church and appointed St Peter as the first Pope. "Tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo Ecclesia Meam." I love our Orthodox brothers and sisters but the Orthodox Church as it is only came about in 1054.

I say this with nothing but love, Orthodoxy and Catholicism are not biblical. They are false and leading people astray. Please look into that and read your Bible. Mary and the saints can't hear you, they are not omniscient or omnipresent and you are saved by grace through faith alone. Please read Hebrews. These are the man-made rituals that we are warned against.

Amen Brother, Great to hear you've found the church. In case your interested @FatherSpyridonROCOR is a great youtuber for Orthodox Christianity and learning about it.