Sell your kids before you sell your Eurorack. I've embraced my GAS addiction and thankfully Behringer does 280HP for just £215 which means I can keep stacking those little beauties and eat beans and wear hessian sacks

@lordundhimself1310

5 ай бұрын

😂

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

🤣

@D.M.M.80

5 ай бұрын

😂

@GeorgeLocke

5 ай бұрын

You don't even need to pay for a case or power. I use old cardboard boxes and duct tape to make the rack, thumb tracks instead of screws, then connect the power to a flying bus board. Then I use a fashionable upcycled power cord from a toaster to connect the system directly to the mains. The smoke and light show is a bonus.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

@@GeorgeLocke 😁You know, someone is going to try that now. I would if I still had my Endorphines modules.

I started with Eurorack right around the same time MI was shutting down. I was vaguely aware that they were not producing any new modules, but I didn’t realize they were stopping production entirely. After frantically shopping around and seeing it sold out everywhere, I managed to score a new Beads-which I LOVE. I must have gotten the very last one off the shelves.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

I started July 2021, and Clouds and Beads was already gone from this world, so I did opt for Monsoon (Clouds clone) and it is literally my favorite module in the collection.

That was a lovely tribute!

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

Hey CalSynth! Thank you, and for the work that you do. I may be coming for Viggen soon :)

I can *HEAR IN YOUR VOICE* while patching how little your heart wants to let these go!

I’m in the same spot; but, MI modules will always be kept.

Man, I regret selling classic Rings/Marbles/Plaits before. Now, purchased them again at a relatively reasonable price, and keeping them, not only are they aesthetically pleasing looking modulars, but they're just classic in the end.

@VisionsMusicGroup

4 ай бұрын

I've decided not to sell Plaits mostly because it was the first oscillator I purchased when starting this Eurorack adventure. Sentimental reasons 🥰

You're deciding to sell the day I've decided to buy MI modules. I got a taste of MI with a Tomkat Cloudy and now I'm obsessed. Dangerous.

I absolutely would never sell those

Good comments, man .. yes, I also am overwhelmed with the features, of this collection, (having what you're showing here) .. I've got one old module (year 2012) that is very basic, and easily understood .. compared to the multi-mode (it's not menu diving, .. but rather button diving, for Mutables). I believe what happens is there is many randomized facets that can happen at once, .. to the point that the musical-like impact is smothered, or destroyed, in our hearing. IF I can discipline myself on concentrating on 2 or 3 features, avoiding my brain from overload, and .. alot of times .. and the musical result, is satisfactory .. to even quite good. They're all good modules .. but, Stages .. as you've pointed out, standing pretty tall, in it's abilities. I wonder if I won't learning more about Stages, .. for years. I believe that Calsynth has good clone substitutes, to almost all of MI's line, .. though, I don't own any of them, yet.

@VisionsMusicGroup

2 ай бұрын

I've replaced them with After Later Audio clones. Nothing wrong with CalSynth of course, I just haven't gotten to that pile yet :-) Check out the Cara & nRings followup video to see how that went. Thank you for watching!

@user-ng9uc3vu3k

2 ай бұрын

@@VisionsMusicGroup Hey, I'll check that out, sometime. Somehow, I missed your mention of ALA, .. which could serve in the same way. Yes, .. it's great that there are alternatives/substitutes. I'm sort of in the larger modular person, though .. even if does entail another skiff, or whatever. It CAN get busy enough where even the more spacious MI layouts are a bit too close together, with enough cables .. ah, but it's a compromise, after all.

Mutable clones were my first and still my favorite. After later makes great clones, had them for years, and the save a lot of space. Will say the Atumbra atom (elements clone is a bit annoying to use with so many tiny knobs though🙂I don’t care if the trend moves away from them, or the are used too much on KZread-Beauty stays beautiful!

be careful with the tiny clones, you might not think it matters yet but the space and layout makes so much difference to how pleasant these modules are to use

Smaller isn't necessarily better, just saying... Eurorack is already fiddly, going into the compact clones has its own irritations.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

I did consider that for the MI clones, but how I use Marbles/Rings isn't with my sausage fingers; it's modulation sources, so hopefully this will work out. And it's not like I'm saving a ton of space. That is clearly a BS excuse :)

@Nick-kb6jd

5 ай бұрын

I agree. Get a bigger case or use less modules. Getting the small modules (imo) is trying to have your cake and eat it. Generally speaking ofc. For some people it is great I’m sure. I had a couple and sold them to get full size ones back. Of course, all the MI modules are available on VCV rack, if you get yourself an interface to use it with your physical rack.

If I were you, I wouldn't sell Veils and Plaits. Veils is just useful in every rack you will ever have and if you like Plaits and exchange it for a smaller clone, you may find that good quality knobs and space is more important on some modules than hp. I ran into this issue, and now I regret selling it.

@jg_ultra

5 ай бұрын

100%. Veils v2 can’t be beat at or near its size, unless looking specifically for character VCAs or LPGs. Smaller Plaits clones are all awkward to use. And the only Rings clone even worth having (Rangoon) is barely any smaller than the original.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

You (both) may be right about Veils, but I mostly use it as an Attenuator so it seems like wasted potential in my situation. The thought was to replace it with actual attenuator/attenuverter modules. I'm interested to see how uRings works out.

Standard rookie error we all make. Bought too many sound sources up front and not enough sequencing and modulation

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

But alas, you must not have seen my Sequencer Rack 😈🤪

Just use the free virtual versions in VCV! I still use Rings and Clouds all the time. There are a few polyphonic Plaits clones, and even a polyphonic Clouds now. Veils isn't in the official collection but someone made a build if you really want it. I have a patch at the moment with 16 Rings into 32 channels of poly Clouds, possibly a bit much, but it's the kind of thing I do because I can 😂

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

"Because I can" - LOVE IT!

Yes, it does hurt to say goobye.

i think its not a good time to sell them. They will become very expensive in the future

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

fwiw I've been watching them on Reverb for about a year (since MI shut down) and I think Stages hit almost $800 once. For me it isn't really about profit, but earning enough to try other things, while making collectors happy.

Smaller clones are totally usable imo, as long as you avoid the ones that only have the tiny pots.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

I'm going to try Cara and uRings, and those do look tiny but we'll see how it goes.

@linewizard

5 ай бұрын

@@VisionsMusicGroupI had an 8hp rings for a couple years, and it’s actually not bad. I prefer the slightly larger Pachinko layout for marbles, since it’s the type of module I’m more likely to tweak live.

I wonder if seeing Mutable modules will be like selling an original 909 or 303… probably not but they might at least retain good value. Personally I have a few but I no longer find them interesting and not playable like other brands can be. Beads is excellent though and a great clouds v2.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm not seeing these go nuts like old vintage stuff, though big time collectors (and where money is no object) will set the course of these beautiful modules. Even with clones, people just want the original thing sometimes.

dont do it. you will regret it. i have them all and i dont have them in my system they are in the box sitting in my shelf. did you ever used stages as an harmonic osci??

@VisionsMusicGroup

3 ай бұрын

Too late! They're all gone. I replaced Marbles and Rings, and kept Plaits of course. Stages was honestly so powerful, I never used it for more than AD envelopes or LFOs. I gave it up because it deserves better.

I am glad MI stuff has ended, like also in this video, people make boring "generative" random sounds with it that all sound the same, modular ambient scene is drenched in this, including succulents.

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

Hey, I barely used any reverb. This can hardly be called "drenched" :) That reminds me, I do need a succulent.

0:09 PLATES

@markbooth

5 ай бұрын

Food is eaten of plates lol. Hair is braided in the style of the actual pronunciation

@indigocotton4187

5 ай бұрын

@@markbooth it’s crazy

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

I love it. Saying it wrong brings me joy!

@indigocotton4187

5 ай бұрын

@@VisionsMusicGroup 🏆

@markbooth

5 ай бұрын

@@VisionsMusicGroup all it took was one big (socially intolerant) KZreadr to start the trend and it took off

Its Forkkss, not Fawwks. Goshh!

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

🤣

guysssss its not plates. there is literally a picture of a braid on the module, its plaits - like how you plait your hair. cmon

@plutoloco2378

5 ай бұрын

It’s pronounced playts not plats.

@katelikesrectangles

5 ай бұрын

also the predecessor was braids...

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

I do love the conversation around this, though :)

@jt_climbing

5 ай бұрын

@@plutoloco2378 nope. its plats. look at the image on the module. the predecessor was called braids. many many clues

@jt_climbing

5 ай бұрын

@@katelikesrectangles exactly! yeah but you pronounce that Brads obvs

Stop it ! Plates??? Its clearly spelled Plaits, like the hair style.

@VisionsMusicGroup

4 ай бұрын

🤣 I cannot! 🤣 I am out of control! 🤣

@boblove2912

4 ай бұрын

Fantastic response! Respect.

it's Plaits, pronounced Platts hair plats. Like braids. Don't sell your modules. the clones are to small for use. You will regret it.

@LoVeAmBiEnT

5 ай бұрын

My marbles, and plaits clones are very usable. Now my clouds clone is small but I’m used to it.

@goonfish

5 ай бұрын

Understood: _Now pronouncing Braids as BRADS!_ 🗿

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

A lot of people do correct my pronunciation. So much so, that now you hear me saying it "correctly" then re-incorrecting myself... because I think it's hilarious. I'm a simple man. PLATES 4ever!

@goonfish

5 ай бұрын

@@VisionsMusicGroup I'm the same way with my Digitakt; I *do not care* that Liam Killen's pronunciation of *_DIGGY-takt_* is apparently correct... It sound like nails on a chalkboard to me, and I will ALWAYS pronounce it with a soft 'G', like in "Digital".

@VisionsMusicGroup

5 ай бұрын

@@goonfish I do love how much this topic triggers people though. Hopefully no one is truly being offended by my bizarre sense of humour (intentionally misspelled 🤣)