Must Do Kyosho Mini Z Mod That Cost Nothing

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  • @alexvaughan6830
    @alexvaughan68303 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love your videos I wish I could support you in Patreon but I’m just a kid. I love that they are so family friendly. I’ve learned so much from your amazing videos.

  • @MixZTitaniumDubstep
    @MixZTitaniumDubstep2 жыл бұрын

    I did this same modification myself yesterday with mine which still has the stock steering blocks. In my case, one broke near where the wheelshaft is and I superglued it back together. One issue I had was it couldn't freely slide on the steering shaft. So I decided to take matters into my own hands and flip the steering shaft as shown in this video. Granted I could get aluminum steering blocks or drilled the shaft hole in the block, but this mod makes it so much easier, and not just for ease of suspension travel.

  • @dvdevo2453
    @dvdevo24533 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always guys!

  • @MichaelWilliams-ei8cr
    @MichaelWilliams-ei8cr3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip. Definitely makes it smoother!

  • @bobbybatman4585
    @bobbybatman45853 жыл бұрын

    Insane video love your videos keep up the work

  • @tededwards1592
    @tededwards15923 жыл бұрын

    Love the mini z content! You got me interested in mini zs......my first mini z is arriving this Saturday. Someday I hope to come visit lonestar hobbies and race on the track!

  • @Weaselpro
    @Weaselpro3 жыл бұрын

    Thnx, works like charm. Suspension become more sensitive and gentle.

  • @richardmiddleton7145
    @richardmiddleton71453 жыл бұрын

    Your mod converts the Mini-Z front suspension to the layout similar to that Radio Shack on the early version of their XMods cars. Their lower A-Arm is stationary and served as a guide for the pivot/suspension screw that attached to the upper A-Arm. It extended below the suspension with the screw head acting as the stop for the suspension travel. May be why Kyosho elected to reverse their installation.

  • @tylerroutzahn
    @tylerroutzahn3 жыл бұрын

    Hi mark. Can u please do a video on how to install a motor into a 2wd mini z

  • @RcOffroad9513
    @RcOffroad95133 жыл бұрын

    Nice upgrade for your car's son! Hahaha, cool vid!

  • @mlugin8050
    @mlugin8050 Жыл бұрын

    I got a mini z buggy today and i love it. What are those red rings (not completely closed) for? Are to shim the dampers?

  • @NV9001
    @NV90013 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the tips

  • @ghostgr43
    @ghostgr433 жыл бұрын

    Hey mark, so we did this today at lone star for my p1 gtr MM wide mini z and it caused my turning to go from actually doing well to now it has tons of understeer. I turned dual rate on steering up and that’s still the problem. Any advice?

  • @gabrielpacheco3624
    @gabrielpacheco36243 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see 1/28 content.. they are a crescent and insanely cool. If you have a chance, take a look into atomic 1/28 kits (tons of fun building it) and mini-z buggy.

  • @StreetWorksMedia
    @StreetWorksMedia3 жыл бұрын

    how did you get that jack skeleton livery on your car., that is amazing.

  • @tonythehitman1
    @tonythehitman13 жыл бұрын

    Also if you don’t want to flip. Throw that c-clip away and but both washers at the bottom that will drop the front .5mm which helps. Then you can drop the rear too if you want to get a new motor pod

  • @madelinesimmons4038
    @madelinesimmons40382 жыл бұрын

    I started with the ready to run kit lol now I just bought a brush one and my new noble radio is coming. It’s not cheap if you want to go faster and be competitive. My set up cost about 500.

  • @Thomas-se4sj
    @Thomas-se4sj3 жыл бұрын

    Love the content

  • @bikesandrc4387

    @bikesandrc4387

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me to

  • @mustangracer5124
    @mustangracer51249 ай бұрын

    The rules say king pin flip allowed for box stock and stock

  • @anotherstar8125
    @anotherstar81257 ай бұрын

    Anymore mini-z content on the way?

  • @calvinjames8291
    @calvinjames82912 жыл бұрын

    Im.new to the MIni-Z platform, more of a Arrma and Vaterra collector from 1/5th scale to 1/16th. What/Where can I get tires, and wheels for these vehicles. Just bought a ZR1, and want aftermarket wheels, and see that the offset to those are way different than the rest "usually +1.5 all around. Any guidance would be helpful. Watching your videos the past 3 days has helped a lot.... Only bad part is that I've bought 6 cars already, and maybe 4 extra bodies. Last but not least, is the Sports 2 cars worth getting over the other new RWD platform? Where are you guys located? Would love to find a group with myself and the kids. Thanks!

  • @karmaq8462
    @karmaq84623 жыл бұрын

    Looking into these cars for me and my son , but the price point is kind of a no go . He already has a raptor , so I was thinking of buying one for myself in the next few months . Love the videos !

  • @AnthonyM1

    @AnthonyM1

    2 жыл бұрын

    right....1/28th scale and tiny plastic is not worth 180.00

  • @johneppstv

    @johneppstv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Been a while but k969 is like 60-90 bucks depending on where you get it. It's cool.

  • @bwbuer
    @bwbuer3 жыл бұрын

    Do you know if the track is 30 or 50cm tiles?

  • @native5947
    @native59473 жыл бұрын

    This guy going to make me buy a miniz That's for sure

  • @bootztechrc4881
    @bootztechrc48813 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! Nice tip thanks for the tutorial! Just wondering I've recent ordered a mini z, what batteries you recommend to race with? If you have a link also that would be great. Cheers

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    I run the Kyosho 800mah rechargables

  • @anotherstar8125
    @anotherstar8125 Жыл бұрын

    would this work on the MA-020?

  • @reyes2581
    @reyes25813 жыл бұрын

    How did you like the “mod” did it improve steering?

  • @jerryvolpini7987
    @jerryvolpini79873 жыл бұрын

    I can't figure out why this class isn't more popular? Great way to pull people into a store and don't need a lot of space.

  • @woutchauvaux6672

    @woutchauvaux6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because they cost almost $200 if you're doing stock racing, pretty expensive for something so small

  • @jerryvolpini7987

    @jerryvolpini7987

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@woutchauvaux6672 The ESC in my 1/10 buggy cost $200 🤷‍♂️

  • @christebo7305

    @christebo7305

    Жыл бұрын

    @Wout Chauvaux size doesn't equate to pricing. Go compare HO, N or Z scale trains and the precision involved with each one. You can drop way more money on 1/8 scale, too. My point is that size doesn’t equate to pricing in every case. Race quality servo for these are $55, easily double this in 1/10. If you get a readyset McLaren Senna edition at the same price point. The level of paint, decals, scale details for the body alone would cost well over $100 in 1/10. Scale speed gets ridiculously fast with these too, 600 kph stock to 2800 and higher fully modified brushless. These are precision made, not bashers. People try to compare basher and toy pricing to hobby grade precision; it just isn't the case. An exploded diagram if the assembly parts will show just how much is going on here. All the way down to pinuon and gear choices, just like larger scales.

  • @brotherskrillrc6042
    @brotherskrillrc60423 жыл бұрын

    Cool vids iam recent new subscriber and to nitros have revo and tmaxx 3.3 no holes cut in body front windshield yet noticed you haven't cut holes either is it necessary for better cooling or just leave it stock no holes?

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    You dont need it if tune it correctly. If where you live its really hot it might help

  • @audio131
    @audio131 Жыл бұрын

    would it be easier to cut that pin first?

  • @freemario6352
    @freemario63523 жыл бұрын

    Couple days my first mini z, and a mini q. I'm excited... except I do have the 4x4 Suzuki, but that doesn't count...

  • @bldallas
    @bldallas3 жыл бұрын

    Itty bitty screws are a massive PIA. I’ve upgraded a humber of things on my SCX24 CRC Jeep and those little buggers can simply vanish....then later, my wife with perfect vision, will walk thru and see one on the other side of our kitchen from where I was working ...

  • @24matou
    @24matou3 жыл бұрын

    works perfectly ! esay mod

  • @xpimphandx
    @xpimphandx3 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Im doing this!

  • @jsgfilms2529
    @jsgfilms25293 жыл бұрын

    2:34 my cars son

  • @jorgezavala6277
    @jorgezavala62773 жыл бұрын

    Was Dadzilla on the Marshall stick?!?!🤣🤣🤣

  • @zoneeeyyy_xd8239
    @zoneeeyyy_xd82393 жыл бұрын

    does it need to be the same car as the vid

  • @mtrboyz21
    @mtrboyz213 жыл бұрын

    I want the Camaro or the Corvette but there sold out everywhere I have looked ..

  • @slavasuhatchi2103
    @slavasuhatchi21033 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @BigDsRc517
    @BigDsRc5173 жыл бұрын

    Just did this myself

  • @fieryerb2198
    @fieryerb21983 жыл бұрын

    What would you recommend e revo or maxx

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    erevo

  • @alexvaughan6830
    @alexvaughan68303 жыл бұрын

    What should i do if a I get an erevo for Christmas. Other than rod ends.

  • @bikesandrc4387

    @bikesandrc4387

    3 жыл бұрын

    Uh... you should drive it

  • @1jackpenner

    @1jackpenner

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bikesandrc4387 R/woooooosh

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    servo ;)

  • @brianorsetti2128
    @brianorsetti21283 жыл бұрын

    When are we going to see the Fox UDR ?

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Super soon

  • @oscarzepeda6682
    @oscarzepeda66823 жыл бұрын

    I saw a lot of 3 of these on ebay for 200 bucks and I was like ehh where I live I don't have a track

  • @birdbangbobaruni
    @birdbangbobaruni2 жыл бұрын

    Cars son handled 😁

  • @a_freaking_lime-gaming9287
    @a_freaking_lime-gaming92873 жыл бұрын

    So basically reversing it and not using the c clip

  • @Weaselpro
    @Weaselpro3 жыл бұрын

    Hey! WARNING! This mod can cause the problem with blocking the wheel during cornering by touching the body. I was pretty amazed how suspension started to move freely after I made this mode. But it was the clear for me that there some reason to limit the movement of suspension. After mod sometimes on the high speed cornering car is rapidly spin because outer wheel touches the body. So I fixed this by following manner: I put long screws(8 mm) instead of short ones, which are hold the body plate. Thus you limit the arm way a lot. But there still 2-3 mil play. Then I made fine adjustment by placing 2 shims (included to the kit) on top of wheel hub. So now I have very smooth suspension but with limit to prevent wheel blocking.

  • @colbyhann1808
    @colbyhann1808 Жыл бұрын

    my mini z is made like this mod. Keyosho must have been watching haha. or atleast it looks like thats how there built now

  • @totallynotjohn8083
    @totallynotjohn80833 жыл бұрын

    Yo dude I really like watching your videos but I can't afford a mini z I hope one day I can buy my first mini z

  • @NickyRoads
    @NickyRoads Жыл бұрын

    Me following along with this mod only to find out I need a dam drimle

  • @makewithmegma
    @makewithmegma3 жыл бұрын

    👌🔥👍😍

  • @mikeovercash3991
    @mikeovercash39913 жыл бұрын

    That's almost like a bump stop

  • @kungfooey6571
    @kungfooey65713 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it have been easier to just remove the c clip? That's what is limiting the travel.

  • @humbertoportillo3603
    @humbertoportillo36033 жыл бұрын

    COOL VIDEO MARK👍QUICK QUESTION HOW COME WE NEVER SEE U RACING THE MINI Z🤔😁JK I WANNA SEE U BATTLE IT AGAINS YOUR KID 915 IN THE HOUSE✌

  • @MarkSantaMaria

    @MarkSantaMaria

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do but when both my sons are racing i rather make sure their cars are ready.

  • @humbertoportillo3603

    @humbertoportillo3603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MarkSantaMaria I got my cen suzuki jimny and mini t 2.0 brushless an want to start KZread video what do u recommend?there's no video yet on these RC's so that's how I want to start...THANK U STAY SAFE AND THE KIDS ✌

  • @abnertinoco675
    @abnertinoco6753 жыл бұрын

    Yeaaaaahhhh I’m early

  • @madelinesimmons4038
    @madelinesimmons40382 жыл бұрын

    The mod is what appears to be all the racers do.

  • @hondofourfivetwo9347
    @hondofourfivetwo93473 жыл бұрын

    Your making me wanna buy a new Mini Z 🙄 I’ve got an original one with the Am 27mhz radio and the old Overland version which is a 2wd off road chassis with an SUV or F150 body you can lock the diff for off-road traction (mine has tiny damped shocks but std is friction shocks) otherwise it’s a basic Mini Z. I’m still waiting for a 4x4 one I’ve found the one I want but it’s always in the wrong color I know you know how that is 😂

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe these things cost so much money when they are so cheaply made. It's insane.

  • @Ilikedahrice

    @Ilikedahrice

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it has to do more with the Quality Control. but they probably still mark it up 120% I bet.

  • @tonythehitman1

    @tonythehitman1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your mainly paying for the body. The bodies alone are 50-70 dollars which is where you make a killing at

  • @KTMcaptain

    @KTMcaptain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonythehitman1 Bodies don't cost that much. I can get an e-revo body for $30 from traxxas that just needs paint and the clipless system installed onto it. No way those bodies cost them more than $10-15 to make. Not to mention they sell a brushless, bodyless, wheelless, transmitterless, and receiverless mini z for $200... By the time it's finished you can buy a new senton 3s instead, or build a gen 8 crawler. Associated sells a $55 28th scale. Traxxas sells an 18th scale $110 4wd car with fully independent suspension.

  • @tonythehitman1

    @tonythehitman1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KTMcaptain yea I know. I'm in the same boat you are in. I just bought a 1/10 erevo body so I know exactly what you mean lol. But Gl and kyosho pretty much have that on lockdown. Xmods didn't stay around to long. Its all a monopoly

  • @KTMcaptain

    @KTMcaptain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonythehitman1 yeah, it sucks. I'd love to get one, but not when I can get a tamiya tt02 for less.

  • @bikesandrc4387
    @bikesandrc43873 жыл бұрын

    I was almost first...

  • @8triagrammer
    @8triagrammer3 ай бұрын

    Love the video, thank you. Hate the masks though, just sayin..

  • @mad_goyo399
    @mad_goyo3993 жыл бұрын

    No no no

  • @jahvanspence4958
    @jahvanspence49583 жыл бұрын

    Putting your cars son aside??

  • @jj_time1394
    @jj_time13943 жыл бұрын

    I was okay untill he said i had to cut the little metal nub off😭i cant do that

  • @drewbooFPV
    @drewbooFPV3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe if these things cost like $50 they would be fun but i ant drop 200 on one of these

  • @harrysrcchannel5651

    @harrysrcchannel5651

    3 жыл бұрын

    in belgium they are almost 300€ for a crawler or lm. for that price you can buy a nice 1/10 car

  • @speedteamhpi

    @speedteamhpi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then this hobby is not for you .

  • @memfault

    @memfault

    Жыл бұрын

    @@speedteamhpi It doesn't change the fact, that he has right to criticize it. Even if RC cars are his hobby.

  • @speedteamhpi

    @speedteamhpi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@memfault go tell someone who cares . This person clearly doesn't know the hobby or can afford it .. that's why the ignorant comment , What you and him do not realize is that these are highly collectable and only go up in value as they age . So yeah 200 is a great price .

  • @memfault

    @memfault

    Жыл бұрын

    @@speedteamhpi I totally disagree. I have feeling that you make feel yourself better, because "you can afford" and disregard (and projects that's a fact) that anybody criticizing it, are those "who can't afford it". The fact is that you don't even know if he (or me) can afford it or not. About buying mini-z being sure investment, it's not a true. There are some limited runs that can be investment put on the shelve, but not every(or even most of them, especially used ones, with scratches, etc), because they are relatively popular and mass produced hardware from years, with bright future (because it's popular, and people buying them, will not be alone). But even many owners and fans of them, criticize them for their prize. I would prefer some open ecosystem/standard. Beside that if I had many friends driving mini-z's I would probably buy at least few of them. But mini-z are big, so need big track. Wife even hates small 3m^2 1:43 track I've reduced it to and kids really love it. When talking about some collectibles from Kyosho, buy discontinued Dnanos, not mini-z's. They are skyrocketing in prices currently. I would like to buy few of them, because already got 1:43 track(from Siku Racing. Cars are very nice die cast metals. But subpar to drive and nightmare for maintenance. But I still like them and playing with them. Recently bought used robitronic lap counting systems[tried to buy new, but even official store doesn't know when they will be back). I also like collecting some stuff. Got hundreds of cartridges for NES and SNES systems including some rare hardware. Got also some vintage Tomy electromechanical games. It would be real investement if I ever would like to sell it. I really could buy mini-z if I would like too. But I hope that 1:43 will be resurrected by many manufacturers in few years, with even much more robust hardware then mini-z(you must upgrade it with metal parts to be reliable). So I'm not a person that hates it or can not afford(maybe not whole shelve of it, like some guys ;-). I even think that 90% of people in EU could afford them, if they would. $200-$500 is not such prohibitive price. Evan people buying some cheaper options, are spending more by buying multiple rc cars or something. People are spending more annually on their iPhones, etc. But even many of them are not happy with Apple practices(not only inital price, but lack of spare parts, etc) I think that you are taking mini-z's too much seriously and emotionally. It's only stupid rc-cars, that are popular, but not anything amazing or special(detailed, but cheap plastic bodies(and most of the mechanics). Because of long history, good availability of spare parts, good quality control(on factory) and popularity there is hype for them. It's simply sure bet for potential buyers that whole thing will not collapse in two years(like with anything new, or entering market). So people know it's overpriced(for what it is), but whole ecosystem(supply chains of parts and new cars, dedicated tracks and tournaments are keeping mini-z alive). Siku Racing cars were also initally sold for $50-80 per car or *20-$30 per few track tiles. Then went Lidl with their Playtive(utilizing some Siku parts, like motors with differentials, batteries. Probably licensed, because both Lidl and Siku are big brands). While cars were a bit subpar(plastic), the whole set(2 cars + big track + lap counting system) sold for $50. Even those who disliked cars from Lidl, driven Siku Racing or Kyosho Dnano on them. When Siku Racing and Kyosho Dnano collapsed whole ecosystem collapsed (replaced by mini-z mostly). I think that many people want good out-of-the-box experience. So if Kyosho want to survive, they must make two lines: - one cheap(dump prices for current offering) - premium line, with mostly metal mechanics. Otherwise somebody will enter the market with better product(out-of-the-box) with initial price-dumping and will eat the cake.

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