It's been said before but I'll say it again. Without lies Islam dies.

@bluebible1199

27 күн бұрын

at this point even when lying, Islam still dies 🤣

I’ve been part of some GOOOFY denominations back in the day but I never seen something more bass akwards than Islam.

Bro tried to act like Jay was “running away” which implies that jay was scared yet he wanted his buddy to come on and have a 2v1 against jay😂😂😂

I cant believe they still use the perfect preservatiom argument thats been exposed many times 😂😂

@mudaaa1015

13 күн бұрын

Easiest way to make them look like clown is. Where is the verse of adult breast suckling that was eaten by the holleey goat

“Give me one verse” *rolls eyes and grabs Quran*

The Quran confirms the Bible which came before it; in order to believe in the Quran you must believe in the Bible and doing so would mean to renounce Islam and its false prophet.

@Akhgy

Ай бұрын

It so simple😂😂

A divine book so good that it relies on centuries later hadiths, commentaries of other scholars and other divine books.

"How many cigarettes do you smoke a day" 😂😂😂

@mjlbold

Ай бұрын

the problem is that cigarettes are cigarettes created by men.

“Show me one verse” *shows verse* “I said show me ONE verse” “I just showed you the verse” “Why are you running Jay?”

@joshzarr

19 күн бұрын

And then he says it’s not the verse he was thinking of when he originally said “any verse” 🤦 How can he not at least be conscious of the fact he’s lying; he must just be fully aware of his coping.

"Let the wicked fall into their own nets"

Unwillingness to answer questions means they know their system is flawed. Which means they're not honest brokers. If they were they wouldn't be sticking with a system that they know has holes in it and doesn't add up. There isn't a single example of a question that an Orthodox Christian won't answer because they're too scared of the implications. Yet all of these other systems, even so called Christian denominations, have such questions because they're man made and based on flawed human logic.

@DontHateGod

Ай бұрын

Maybe they just dont knos

@EpistemicAnthony

Ай бұрын

I think ascribing ill intent to them is incorrect. People are flawed, and oftentimes "stump" questions are ignored by our innate biases. It doesn't necessitate lying. It is still a strength of Orthodoxy that we do not have any such stu.p questions.

@SeraphimLeo

Ай бұрын

@@DontHateGod The fact that they dance around the question and avoid answering proves they do know, else they would have given a bad answer but in good faith.

@SeraphimLeo

Ай бұрын

@@EpistemicAnthony The ill intent is born out by their dishonest avoidance of having to give an answer. If they weren't ill intentioned then they would have given a bad answer in good faith.

@TheTrueMendoza

Ай бұрын

How would you answer to the critique of Divine Command where they ask "If God commanded you to kill an infant would you do it?"

the hobbit could be without any contradictions and perfectly preserved. according to these guys it must be the eternal word of God

@JunkyJeeMail

Ай бұрын

I'll take Prophet Tolkien over Is-lame's so-called Prophet any day 🎉

Instant K.O. Pretty impressive

These kind of people are so frustrating to watch. It really burns me up. But I know how necessary it is to show contradictions within the frameworks of these other religions bc that’s what led me to orthodoxy. People like this aren’t looking for truth.

@Unknown-hb3id

25 күн бұрын

Makes you wish everyone had the Saul "You are my sunshine" treatment. But even then, people would refuse Christ.

God is good, it's aways the same with debating Islam, it just doesn't measure up

Fart Hadiths!😂😂

I just found Jay D’s channel and this man is a beast up against the muhammaden! Good on you for not letting them intimidate you!

There are 29 different versions of the Quran, and counting. Watch Jay Smith for polemics.

Hilarious, well done once again 🔥

Temple of doom monkey brain 🗿

Jay very good points

Bro got cooked ☦️❤️‍🩹

These dudes got buried ⚰️

Always learn something new from your streams 😊

9:40 "that was really funny."

This is hard to watch

so the muslim argument was to produce a single surah/ayah like the quranic one? and that's supposed to confirm quran is divine 😭

@miguelgil7266

Ай бұрын

Jay missed an opportunity on that. That quranic challenge is actually a logical fallacy called “affirming the consequence” just because it cannot be replicated does not mean it is divine

@tymon1928

Ай бұрын

@@miguelgil7266 yupp

@tenshiman1490

Ай бұрын

Ironically the Hadiths says Omar said words that became verses

@TorchLighter

Ай бұрын

@@miguelgil7266 Also, the challenge was already meet with the book "The True Furqan" (Paper Book) and "The Corona Surah" (Google). Sam Shamoun has 3 articles about it called: "Has the Quran’s Challenge Been Met?", when the Muslims are the judges they always going to re-shape the requirements and the goalpost to avoid any threath to deal with losing. In the end... lie to others, lie to themselves 😔

@andrewdonahue5001

25 күн бұрын

@@tenshiman1490what hadiths state that . Thanks !

could watch this all day

What's the Muslim's favourite number? ONE 😂

Excellent video

I love how they pronounce the Koran differently than their accent like people in SoCal pronounce lemon (limón) but don’t have a Mexican accent.

"You're just comparing story vs story" "Ahhh you got me really deep man" 😂

@dafty21forsena79

Ай бұрын

The irony is this dude probably believes in evolution, which is just another story 💀

"can you hear me Jay" is a classic when they lose

The good Ol’ Dawah script. Wish I heard Jay refute their points sometimes thought instead of going straight offensive but I get it.

Someday I hope to be even half as smart as that dude who called in to point out the Bible and Quran were written by men

Contradictions in the Quran...tons of them. Example, at one chapter allah says he created the world a d everything in 6 days and in another he says 8 days. There one contradiction is enough. quran is false. The end.

10:14 LOL

Yes i always tell the muslims there belief its upside down. You go by with revelation before. Not the other way around. Muslims tell us its the opposite. They go by Quran first and then other text before have to follow what Quran say 😂 If that is the case you always can come up with new revelation and say Quran is corrupt because its does not fit the new revelation. So anyone can be a prophet if you follow the islamic way. All prophet pointed to the scripture before including Jesus. He pointed to the scripture about fulfillment of prophecy. Because islamic narrative does not fit in scripture so they have to reject it in order to follow Muhammed. Because if you follow scripture then you have to reject Muhammed and allah as a false prophet, doctrine and foreign god.

i think all u need to ask is "y do u presuppose the quran?" (if they know what the word "presuppose" means 🤣)

Ko Rrran

ya fr, naam sayin?

@ayo123

Ай бұрын

Yap

Btfod

One contradiction? Is the Quran a clear book? Buch of verses say it is. Then there's this: He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. NONE knoweth its explanation save Allah. How can a Clear Book have verses that NONE knows what they truly mean, except Allah himself? Why even HAVE those verses in, when the disbelievers will use those to misrepresent Islam? So those verses are actually quite UNCLEAR. Since only ALLAH can know their true meaning, no amount of study, or scholarship can EVER get it right. And you know what's the best part about it? You don't have an established and defined method of IDENTIFYING which of these are meant to be the 'clear ones' and which of these are meant to be 'allegorical ones'. The only "Criteria" Muslims go by is: If it sounds retarded, or it wrecks Islam to shreds - it's allegorical. If it sounds good - it's definitely Clear and Precise.

"bring me one verse that is as great as in the Qu'ran" Almost everyone can do that. It's subjective. Some things are more beautiful and more meaningful than what's written in the Qu'ran. You could have a verse in the Qu'ran which is more beautiful and meaningful than what's found in other things. That argument that worshippers of Mohammed bring up has to stop. It's too stupid and is defeated instantly.

Can i ask how Catholicism is a cult? Actually asking btw not being satirical

@mullenenterprises

Ай бұрын

That’s more of a hyperbolic statement but next time Dyer goes live you could call in, he can explain it relatively succinctly

@toasterdoge6045

Ай бұрын

@mullenenterprises thanks I'll be sure to check it our. Wo during I'd you could answer tho this tho please. I became Catholic (I'm going to have bias but I'll try to rid it as much as I can) because I VIGOROUSLY studied Church history, early writings, what church fathers said, extensive exegesis on the Bible, and what the CCC says and I fail to see how it's a cult. If I could pleas eget an example I'd like to look at it

@mullenenterprises

Ай бұрын

@@toasterdoge6045 By saying it’s a cult he probably just meant it’s a cult around the pope. Again, simply hyperbolic. We don’t actually think you guys worship the pope or anything. We believe you give him an irrational level of significance and authority which the bishop of Rome nor Peter himself ever possessed in the first 8 centuries of our history.

@toasterdoge6045

Ай бұрын

@mullenenterprises I see now. But we have records of the Pope having the same amount of power than and now in order of religious significance. We litterally have writings explicitly staying he can order new creeds and stuff. Not trying to cause a fight or anything but there are some really good books and stuff I can recommend on the topic. The Chair of Peter hasn't always had the best peoples and no one ever claims the pope is perfect. The popes "power" is often misunderstood and over exaggerated and stuff

@mullenenterprises

Ай бұрын

@@toasterdoge6045 I’m not familiar with them but Jay has pulled up dogmatic Catholic sources stating the Pope’s teaching is utterly perfect(post schism) that’s what infallible means. No one has been able to answer him on this. You can call in and make an objection and he’ll give you your answer