Music Thing Modular - Turing Machine mkii 2016

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Coming mid April to www.thonk.co.uk
Here's the new mkii version of the Turing Machine for 2016. There's some added features, new expanders and everything new and old is all 100% compatible ... ace!
00:00 Features, expanders, compatibility, history - talking! :)
03:15 Turing Machine mkii
08:18 Volts Expander
11:10 Dual Melody Lines
13:50 Pulse Expander mkii
17:48 Patch From Scratch
21:55 Audio Rate Chiptune / Pulse Oscillator
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  • @tiefklang
    @tiefklang3 ай бұрын

    Oh man.. i realy need this Volts expander. Thanx Div! Long time fan. Your skills are 🎉! Keep teaching please

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    3 ай бұрын

    thank you, it's a pleasure to be able to share videos with people and teach along the way.

  • @1VperOctave
    @1VperOctave8 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant demo, really clear and thorough! Thanks :)

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +1VperOctave thank you

  • @StingrayOfficial
    @StingrayOfficial8 жыл бұрын

    Nice! The audio rate was surprising! Thanks as always!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Stingray yeah that works great!

  • @TonydeKaro
    @TonydeKaro3 жыл бұрын

    Just bought one set :) As always, thanks for the video!

  • @mylespotters
    @mylespotters8 жыл бұрын

    Just went from "I've heard about turing machines before" to "I need this." Also lol Kinks!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Myles Potters yeah Kinks in site! But yeah I'd say you "need" a Turing Machine ... and the expanders! haha

  • @mylespotters

    @mylespotters

    8 жыл бұрын

    +DivKidVideo The case of the ever expanding rig. Haven't even gotten my MN empty CV bus case and I've already got a 42hp "control" rig (including this + uScale and some others) planned. It's a disease.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Myles Potters Ross Lamond likes to call it "the fever" haha

  • @mylespotters

    @mylespotters

    8 жыл бұрын

    +DivKidVideo Heh true. Question: as a somewhat unskilled solder-er, do you know if this will be available pre-built anywhere? Or purely DIY?

  • @gearpunk9632
    @gearpunk96327 жыл бұрын

    Turing Machine ordered. Thanks for the great demo.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    cheers

  • @jeanse27
    @jeanse277 жыл бұрын

    Planing to build TM mk2 + Volts + Voltages + Pulses mk1 expanders. Thanx Ben for the clear explanations! I like the part with the chip tunes sounds!! Your videos are always great eye openers!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's good to hear thanks

  • @markmccarthy3304
    @markmccarthy33046 жыл бұрын

    Just bought one after watching this, thanks again Ben.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Mark.

  • @whiterottenrabbit
    @whiterottenrabbit8 жыл бұрын

    Great video, as always!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +whiterottenrabbit thank you.

  • @jvandelius
    @jvandelius6 жыл бұрын

    ' and I said output a lot of times there..' lol ...you re vids r a great help by the way..always.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha cheers!

  • @andrewmohr3489
    @andrewmohr34897 жыл бұрын

    Great video, as always.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Andrew, appreciate that.

  • @mgscheue
    @mgscheue8 жыл бұрын

    Great demo! Randomness and its uses might be a good topic to consider for your podcast.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +mgscheue good idea, we've spoken about that. Definite topic for the future. With the shows one per month we take lots of notes and user requested. Random / S&H will definitely be an episode.

  • @valdiskrebs566
    @valdiskrebs5665 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that was amazing!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    nice one

  • @FreeThink1984
    @FreeThink19845 жыл бұрын

    Had no idea you could use it as a vco like that. Blew my mind, need one now

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah needs a VCO to drive it but there's a lot of interesting tones to be had.

  • @daSunBrain
    @daSunBrain5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this Tutorial!

  • @rayderrich
    @rayderrich6 ай бұрын

    This helped me use the software version in VCV Rack, so thanks.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 ай бұрын

    Appreciate it and nice when ideas are applicable across other gear/formats.

  • @Larry30102
    @Larry301022 жыл бұрын

    Divkid: Magician :)

  • @theianboddy
    @theianboddy7 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Ben. Just gone & got a V2 Turing Machine based on your demo here.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nice one, hope you like it. Mine gets a lot of use.

  • @JMLRecording
    @JMLRecording7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. So Awesome.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @MarcasLancaster
    @MarcasLancaster7 жыл бұрын

    Superb demo. As always.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @MarcasLancaster

    @MarcasLancaster

    7 жыл бұрын

    DivKidVideo after seeing this I'm going to order the whole ensemble. Never bought a kit before and am in touch with a guy who builds them. Can I get your advice on how to proceed properly? Introducing new modules to my system feels like having a physical implant! Need to be sure!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean my advice on how to proceed? Do you mean how to go about getting someone to build them? Feel free to keep commenting here or we can chat over email / Facebook if you want.

  • @MarcasLancaster

    @MarcasLancaster

    7 жыл бұрын

    DivKidVideo Would love to chat via email. marcaslancaster@gmail.com

  • @WimDaans
    @WimDaans8 жыл бұрын

    great review. I've been eying the Turing machine for a while, and this new version might pull me over. I have a A149 1 + 2 but the Turing machine seems different enough to justify having both. The Turing machine seems easier to control and the catch loop function is great. Also the gates on the Turing machine expander seem way more interesting for generating rhythmical patterns than the random gates on the A149-2, which are just going on and off in random fashion without relation to each other.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Wim Daans I'd say both would work well together, Different approaches to random.

  • @BadChizzle
    @BadChizzle4 жыл бұрын

    So it starts playing Classical Music, suddenly... and we find... ourselves going back in time.

  • @nigeltedbury5805
    @nigeltedbury58055 жыл бұрын

    TM as chiptune oscillator - nice!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that was a fun patch.

  • @lucasdenefle7960
    @lucasdenefle79607 жыл бұрын

    Those dual melody lines are really nice. It seems you can easily get some pretty things going with just the volts expander

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    yeah absolutely. Love the Turing Machine, had the original and this one is still in my set up.

  • @lucasdenefle7960

    @lucasdenefle7960

    7 жыл бұрын

    You convinced me to build one for myself

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    nice one :)

  • @WhiteWulfe
    @WhiteWulfe5 жыл бұрын

    Sooo glad to hear that the old PCBs can be used with the new expansions, and such. I think I still have a pair of the PCBs lying around in my box of doom >.>;;;

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    "box of doom" that could be the modular case / set up name too.

  • @WhiteWulfe

    @WhiteWulfe

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DivKid Yup, turns out I have a pair of the original ones, but just the main PCBs since I'd been planning on going with either 5U/MOTM or MU at the time. Now that I'm rebuilding my modular (sold the MU stuff several years ago) eurorack is rather enticing. And oooooh, the chiptune stuff makes it even more enticing....

  • @chickenbonelives
    @chickenbonelives8 жыл бұрын

    wow what a great video! I wish mystic circuits was still making the rainbow Turing, but I'll be plenty happy with this new machine.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +lemayway Eli at Mystic Circuits might go for a new version rainbow I don't know. But with the new ones it's all 100% compatible with new and old so you could integrate an existing rainbow turing or expander.

  • @samlevine9639
    @samlevine96395 жыл бұрын

    so can someone explain Volts to me? I'm still so confused by it. So it adds voltage to whatever the output of the Turing machine already is? Is that correct? The sequence he has is 6 steps - but there are only 5 steps on the volts expander. At 9:15 he turns the third knob and the filter opens up consistently on (what my ear hears as) the 4th note of the sequence, but since volts is only a sequence of 5, shouldnt it alter the 4th note, then the 3rd note, then the 2nd, 1st, 6th, 5th, and back to the fourth again? Similarly, at 11:52, the counter-melody created by Volts is also a 6 note melody. How exactly does this work?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sam, the thing that takes a while to wrap your head around with the Turing machine is that more than one stage can be active at once. That's the core of Turing Machine. So this isn't a traditional sequencer just moving one step at a time. You can get patterns that move that way, but you can get a pattern where lots of stages are active at once. So the voltages on the knobs can be adding together to create higher pitches that on the surface don't really correlate with any of the knob positions directly. Regarding only 5 steps it will cycle back up to step 1 after step 5. But at that point steps 3 and 4 might be active too. There's a lot of information here to dive into - musicthing.co.uk/pages/turing.html

  • @almohadillaseisefes
    @almohadillaseisefes5 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video! What about the Noise and Pulse outputs?

  • @mkin8290
    @mkin82904 жыл бұрын

    I love this. Definitely getting one because of you. How many Volts and Pulses can be daisychained onto the MK2?

  • @RMMChicagoOfficial
    @RMMChicagoOfficial6 жыл бұрын

    yes!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @shufflephunk
    @shufflephunk6 жыл бұрын

    So the clock in is used to put a taptempo(BPM) in it or also a VCO shape? Is the Turing machine output CV information what should be send to a VCO(albeit via a quanitizer and a VCA and Envelope)

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    clock in simple steps through the stages in the Turing Machine. You can use a clock, LFO, VCO, rhythm sequence etc each "high state" will simply make it step to the next stage. It doesn't have to be a steady clock. The output CV could be sent anywhere, to the 1v/oct (pitch) input of a VCO you would hear the pitches changing in sequence with the Turing Machine. Or you could send it to say a filter's CV input for cut off and you hear the filter cut off stepping up and down. It sounds like you're maybe just starting out with this so here's a potential patch that might make you a simple synth voice controlled by the Turing Machine's CV. Using a MIDI to CV module send the clock output to the Turing Machine and also to the gate input of an envelope generator. Send the Turing Machine CV output to the 1v/oct input of a VCO and patch a VCO into a VCA's input. Send the envelope generator's output to the VCAs CV input. At this point you'll have an oscillator going into a VCA where the clock signal from a MIDI to CV module (clock could be from anywhere you can get a clock) is making the Turing Machine step through new random values and it's opening up an envelope. The oscillator pitch is changing from the Turing Machine's CV and the envelope is opening up the VCA. I hope that helps.

  • @scobot1
    @scobot12 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this! NEWBIE feedback: So I am trying to follow along using VCV - but I can't see where the "off screen" cables are going (where they are patched into) - Example: I notice there are some cables going to ADSR "gate" and "out" but to/from where? Would love to see a shot from farther back just so I could set everything up correctly to follow along. (It's kind of good in a way as I have to totally guess "now Clock...how does that get connected..." but I am so new at this. lol) No shade, just feedback (no pun) Thanks. :)

  • @bonjourmyfriends
    @bonjourmyfriends8 жыл бұрын

    Watching the duophonic Volts part - did you need to use two quantizers, or a dual quantizer?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    One quantised two channels. Both the ADDAC 207.

  • @marcraynaud6182
    @marcraynaud61828 жыл бұрын

    I built the Turing machine depending on its publication in 1936. See full details on the site www.machinedeturing.com

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Marc Raynaud haha

  • @_jurk
    @_jurk4 жыл бұрын

    Can you also lock it into scale (say A minor) w. something as intellijel scales for example?

  • @darrenplace5562

    @darrenplace5562

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep!

  • @DiscoticUK
    @DiscoticUK8 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ben, the Volts expander, do each of the knobs correlate to a step on the Turing sequence? I'm trying to get my head round the whole 5 knobs on Volts and anywhere from 2-32 steps on the Turing.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +DiscoticUK the 5 knobs don't relate to specific steps it just cycles round. So 8 steps would be 12 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 and then as the 8 steps loop it would continue to cycle around the 5 steps 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 etc. So whatever length you have the two CVs will overlap and not always line up due to the lesser steps (5 to be exact) on the Volts expander.

  • @DiscoticUK

    @DiscoticUK

    8 жыл бұрын

    Ah! Polyrhythmic then?

  • @smokyclap6033
    @smokyclap60338 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video as always Ben. I'm a bit curious as to what module you are using to vary the gate lengths of your clock?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Michael Quijano I use an oscillator as a clock as I say in the video at a couple of points (sorry if that wasn't clear, or rushed past in places). Using the oscillator with a square wave output and PWM allows me to change the gate length of the clocks or rather the square waves pulse width.

  • @smokyclap6033

    @smokyclap6033

    8 жыл бұрын

    +DivKidVideo Right on. I figured it was an oscillator because I don't know of many LFO with variable pulse width. What could be interesting is If your oscillator has PWM input you could vary your gate lengths under voltage control. Thanks for the vid.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Michael Quijano yeah if the video wasn't already as long as it was I was going to add a patch with a slow LFO modulating my LFO rate VCO's pulse width for different gate lengths coming through to the Pulse Expander and also use Volts to CV the sustain level on an envelope. That's a nice patch :)

  • @monoseq9797
    @monoseq97977 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video as always chap! which quantiser are you using?

  • @monoseq9797

    @monoseq9797

    7 жыл бұрын

    oops, sorry I saw you've already answered it! ta me duck!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    No worries brownie points for finding the answer elsewhere! :) ADDAC 207.

  • @__Comint
    @__Comint8 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if I missed it when you mentioned it, but what kind of quantizer are you using in this demo? Also, I really enjoy your videos! Keep up the good work. :)

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +William Hart Thanks William, appreciate the comment. It's the ADDAC 207.

  • @orangewiggler6838
    @orangewiggler68388 жыл бұрын

    I like the Turing machine a lot. But why not a one-panel-module instead of one with expanders? Who wants the Turing Machine without the extra's of the expanders?

  • @tombola2004

    @tombola2004

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Orange Wiggler With the new expanders it's much more modular - if you want pulses + 3xVolts you have a very different system from Vactrol Mix + Voltages.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Orange Wiggler as Tom has said it's modular in itself then. I personal like a single Turing Machine and expanders in a small case. Whereas at home I like having the extra expanders. And to be honest it happens vice versa sometimes. The Turing and expanders are a real backbone to a small system too.

  • @synthsocialist
    @synthsocialist7 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to have a hard time choosing between the Turing Machine and Ornaments + Crime... I hear that O+C has a Turing machine app though

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey, yeah I've seen there's a Turing Machine version in the O+C too. Not tried one yet though.

  • @pbbolton
    @pbbolton5 жыл бұрын

    @divkidvideo what are you using as a clock/quantizer?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, clock isn't important and I can't remember. But anything that can generate a clock such a square wave LFO, specific clock generator (2hp, Erica Synths) or a MIDI to CV module with clock outputs. The Quantizer was the ADDAC 207 but again not hugely important, best not to get caught up in specific modules and more about specific techniques / patches. There's a fair few quantisers around that would work. Happy to discuss anytime.

  • @pourtaghi
    @pourtaghi6 жыл бұрын

    Does the volts expander need a separate power cable, or can it steal power from the TM?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    piggy backs off the main module. Doesn't need it's own.

  • @wildaudiosociety
    @wildaudiosociety8 жыл бұрын

    Just finished building this and it's exactly what I needed/wanted. Thanks for the demo. So I know it's a kinda basic thing, but what are your thoughts on the MI Kinks?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    Kinks is fantastic! I'll have a video demo soon (should have had weeks ago but "life happened" sort of thing).

  • @jinx1401

    @jinx1401

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey +DivKidVideo Did you do this kinks video?

  • @andrewpianoman

    @andrewpianoman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Kinks video plz!

  • @jorgegaliano8447
    @jorgegaliano84476 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. What drums are you using on this demo?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    Which bit?

  • @Knasterblem
    @Knasterblem6 жыл бұрын

    your music thing spring reverb sounds so nice. is it a digital brick or an actual spring?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    digital brick. Nice reflective delay / room type sound I thought.

  • @forehead84
    @forehead848 жыл бұрын

    The dual melodies section with reverb was great. Is there a way to get these music thing modular modules assembled as I have no interest in diy but I could use a radio music and this?

  • @tombola2004

    @tombola2004

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Forehead Talk to Thonk.co.uk and they can always find a friendly builder

  • @forehead84

    @forehead84

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tom Whitwell thanks Tom, I hadn't thought to speak to them about this. Great work with the modules you were showing at superbooth too.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Forehead finding yourself a great DIY builder to repeatably use I think is pretty crucial. My DIY skills are non-existent so it's important for me to have someone to hand for any DIY stuff.

  • @JonDoeOne
    @JonDoeOne8 жыл бұрын

    great video! Which quantizer are you using?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Johannes d'Hoine ADDAC 207

  • @andrewpianoman
    @andrewpianoman7 жыл бұрын

    When you have 2 oscillators playing dual melody lines, the Volts is quantized through the same quantizer?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Andrew, yeah it's a quad quantizer (the ADDAC 207) so I can take two inputs to the two channels and then send two quantised sequences out to the oscillators.

  • @andrewpianoman

    @andrewpianoman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Aha! Thanks! I was just looking at that on the grid. Bit pricey that one! (edit: discontinued?) Any other solutions to achieve this effect, say...the Blue Lantern duo/quad or perhaps the Doepfer a-156? Thanks for all your work, learn so much from your vids.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doepfer A-156 I think is chromatic only on one channel? Or maybe it shares the settings across both channels (which is fine, you probably want both to be in the same key) with a jumper on the back of it. That should do the trick.

  • @andrewpianoman

    @andrewpianoman

    7 жыл бұрын

    Going to build an O+C, that has 4 quantizers I believe? Among many other goodies!

  • @markoTardito-BePartOfMyWorld
    @markoTardito-BePartOfMyWorld2 жыл бұрын

    great video Ben, what quantizer are you using? I have O_C but I'm looking for a more simple one...

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was using the ADDAC 207 here.

  • @georgecathro1473
    @georgecathro14737 жыл бұрын

    Great demo. Would you say that the MK 2 is better? I am looking to buy another Turing Machine with Volts and Pulses Cheers

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you have a mk1 might as well get a mk2. But there's not a lot in it really. It's not something I'd sell an original for in order to get an upgrade. The addition on the small 5 way volts expanders I think is great.

  • @BlinkyBillz
    @BlinkyBillz7 жыл бұрын

    Hi great vid, clear explanations! One question: at 12:00 you're using 2 quantizers right?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Rienk, thanks for the comment and question. That's the ADDAC 207 quantizer with two channels.

  • @BlinkyBillz

    @BlinkyBillz

    7 жыл бұрын

    thnx, one more question, how do you connect the volts to the turing, connect the gates (turing) to the gates (volts) or does gates(volts) to pulses (turing) also work, or does that give me other functionality?

  • @BlinkyBillz

    @BlinkyBillz

    7 жыл бұрын

    and what exactly does the volts do?!?

  • @mar86ques
    @mar86ques8 жыл бұрын

    Just got my new Turing mk2 today... Having problems with locking the sequence. it will only lock up to two or maby for bars then it will change again. Have i got something rong?

  • @Colgatelicious

    @Colgatelicious

    8 жыл бұрын

    probably u messed up on the soldering but I don't have one so I'm not sureb

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yeah something sounds wrong if it won't lock properly. Wonder if the knob never gets the value needed to fully lock.

  • @dcrouse087

    @dcrouse087

    7 жыл бұрын

    I know I'm late, but just incase you never resolved this issue. There is a small hole in the front panel to adjust a trim pot to calibrate that. There's literature explaining the process in detail somewhere. Using it as an oscillator helps hear whether its locking.

  • @markmccarthy3304
    @markmccarthy33046 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ben where is the best place to buy one built from?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    Find a DIY builder online that has a good reputation and go with them. There's a few around Facebook groups and the Muff Wiggler forum. They also come up built and sale a fair bit.

  • @murphyofficial1901
    @murphyofficial19017 жыл бұрын

    Just revisiting this video and these sweet melodies. What key is the quantiser in?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    C natural minor I would imagine. C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb. However it might have been more restricted down to a Cm7 chord C, Eb, G, Bb.

  • @murphyofficial1901

    @murphyofficial1901

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Must be the second one. I cant get my TM to sing like that in c minor. Great video

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah probably was set to an extended chord tone. Avoids any clashes in the full scale. Cheers!

  • @murphyofficial1901

    @murphyofficial1901

    7 жыл бұрын

    Is that a setting inside the ADDAC 207 or something?

  • @markmccarthy3304
    @markmccarthy33046 жыл бұрын

    Could you recommend a good dual quantiser?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dual's are hard to find there's the Doepfer A-156 (if I have the number right). But I'd look at the Harmonaig from Instruo, ADDAC 207, or an Ornament & Crime.

  • @Metro6am
    @Metro6am4 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way to constrain the output so the range isn't so wide before it hits the quantizer?

  • @sneakyfatcat

    @sneakyfatcat

    4 жыл бұрын

    you could probably just use an attenuator

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes the onboard output range control does exactly that.

  • @Metro6am

    @Metro6am

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sneakyfatcat yes that looks like it thanks! Attenuator with offset

  • @Metro6am

    @Metro6am

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DivKid I think I need something to offset and attenuate the signal so I can keep melodies to couple of higher octaves

  • @ElectroGong
    @ElectroGongАй бұрын

    so I bought one of these bc of the video and it's super fun with a Synthesis Technology E330 but I CANNOT figure out how you have the ASDR patched. I want the notes to swell in, not just hard trigger. Can anybody explain what is going on offscreen there?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    Ай бұрын

    patch the trigger out to the envelope trigger in and set the attack or rise time to be longer to get the swell. If you're using an ADSR you'll need longer gates rather than the short triggers. As short triggers won't hold a gate high long enough to get through a rising attack stage.

  • @ElectroGong

    @ElectroGong

    Ай бұрын

    @@DivKid ok so the out of Turing Machine module to the ADSR then out of ADSR to the 1v/oct input on the E330 Oscillator?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    Ай бұрын

    an ADSR typically (doesn't have to) controls the level of the sound which happens in a VCA module. If you patch an ADSR to the v/oct of an oscillator you'll get rises and falls of pitch along with the shape of the envelope you set on the ADSR controls. The E330 will drone endlessly (as oscillators) do, so patch it's output into a VCA input, take the VCA output as your output to speakers/mixer/soundcard (depends on your set up), patch the ADSR output to the VCA CV input and now it will control the level of the sound.

  • @ElectroGong

    @ElectroGong

    Ай бұрын

    ahhhhh! thats the part i was missing!! thank you so much!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    Ай бұрын

    glad that's done it

  • @teebeedahbow
    @teebeedahbow Жыл бұрын

    Can I ask you why you seem to equate pitch quantization with 'musicality'?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely, always welcome to ask, thank you for doing so. it's very stereotypical "musical" for most norms and largely peoples backgrounds coming into this. I absolutely agree though (as I think is your point) quantisation doesn't equate to musicality in the sense that the lack of it means no musicality. I never quantise my Serge beyond tuning by ear and knob turns for example. There's musicality in noise and found sound.

  • @teebeedahbow

    @teebeedahbow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DivKid Thanks for the answer. I think it is a really interesting question, especially when deriving pitch information from 'random' sources, Turing machines, Euclidian rhythms and the like. I agree with you that quantised pitch can help anchor melodic material in a way more recognisable and this is something essential about musicality For one thing, if you listen to music with hugely complex and varied pitch material lacking clear anchors, it is ironic how quickly it all begins to sound the same. I've been using the shift register on the Disting (a TM in all but name) which, like the 2hp and Music Thing TMs, allows you to lock groups which start looping - repetition also being a good way to persuade listeners there is something going on. It's amazing how productive this loop feature is! On the other hand, I recently got some lovely faders from Michigan Synth Works and using these with pitch opens up all the space in between, which I think is truly musically appealing. One of the really attractive aspects of modular is that it brings these questions and issues to the fore.

  • @ArguZ72
    @ArguZ728 жыл бұрын

    I'm just thinking...oh , Kinks ! ! :-D

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sascha Haber Kinks? No mention of that in the video, but yeah I realised it's now in shot! All announced of course otherwise it would be out of sight and not in this case :)

  • @derekwashuck7691
    @derekwashuck76917 жыл бұрын

    What about vactorl mix is there going to be a mk2 verson and I liked the larger sliders version of volts instead of the smaller knobs version !

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    They're all still compatible with each other. So you can use the Vactrol Mix and the Voltages module instead of the Volts.

  • @manuelsirotti3793
    @manuelsirotti37936 жыл бұрын

    rhythmic sounds are from samples?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    You mean the drum sounds from later in the video?

  • @shufflephunk
    @shufflephunk6 жыл бұрын

    why do i always hear the turing machine do this typical tu-du-du-du(pitch up to down)? its even in random mode

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't quite get what you mean? It's a shift register so data feeds down the line.

  • @shufflephunk

    @shufflephunk

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah i think thats the case. when i feed it through a lpg i still sometimes hear those notes.. while it seems like a random vontage generator i still seem to hear some patterns that reoccur during the looping of the turing

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    well it's looping random. Middle position on the knob is entirely random, then all the clockwise or anticlockwise it locks to an entirely repetitive loop. Anywhere in between changes the probability that new data will enter the stream So it can be "semi locked if you like.

  • @larushruiz9197

    @larushruiz9197

    6 жыл бұрын

    DivKidVideo yes I know but unfortunately my button can turn all around the clock so its messed up :( but nonetheless i heard the same high note to low not sequence everytime at my turing and I also hear it in your video, wondeeing whats that since it should be random right? Thnks!

  • @davidwuhrer6704
    @davidwuhrer67045 жыл бұрын

    I only know Turing Machines as a theoretical concept from computability theory. It is a machine that, according to the Church-Turing theorem, can compute anything that can be computed, and that, as Lady Ada observed, can do anything that we know to tell it to do, including, but not limited to, making music. The machine that is referred to as a Turing machine here is a finite state machine that just loops over the input, which is random. It can not do calculations or computations, nor can it compose anything from given or inferred rules. The only thing it has in common with the Turing Machines that I am familiar with is that it is a FSM. Oddly, a TM has less states and can do more that this one. Why is it called a Turing machine?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi David, well I didn't design or name the module so I can't answer that for you. Ask Tom Whitwell the designer on Facebook/Twitter. There also information for you here - musicthing.co.uk/pages/turing.html - hope that's helpful.

  • @davidwuhrer6704

    @davidwuhrer6704

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. There is no real explanation for the name there, but there is this: _> 19. The Turing Machine is not a real Turing Machine the way Alan Turing explained it. The name is vaguely relevant because the module uses a loop of data being changed, but computer scientists find it very annoying._

  • @arjuna207
    @arjuna2073 жыл бұрын

    Braids VCO? Sounds quantized

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    3 жыл бұрын

    What sounds quantised? The pitch CV? The audio at digital clock/sample rates and you can hear that? Definitely using a pitch sequencer (ADDAC 207) between the Turing Machine and the oscillator in the video.

  • @arjuna207

    @arjuna207

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DivKid The VCO sounds pitched :)) sorry. If i take cv out of turing into something like an STO, i don't get steps like that when changing volts

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, nothing to be sorry about it. I didn't know what you meant by "sounds pitched". What you mean (I'm guessing from the next bit) is that each note is quantised, as in part of a scale or chromatic musical notes. If that's what you mean ... yes. I quantised the output of the Turing Machine, it's not the oscillator doing that. I talk about using a quantiser in the video.

  • @KPsTboy
    @KPsTboy5 жыл бұрын

    So to be sure, when you use both the TM and Voltages in your demo the outputs go to separate quantizers?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes. Or a multi channel quantizer.

  • @KPsTboy

    @KPsTboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cheers, thanks.

  • @mike.thomas
    @mike.thomas7 жыл бұрын

    Dammit Ben, I only just finished the build on my TM last night. Now you're MAKING me buy/build the expanders. It's all your fault! :-D

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    haha! My bad.

  • @sanairfan178
    @sanairfan1784 жыл бұрын

    documentary 2019

  • @Bigleg2
    @Bigleg27 жыл бұрын

    almoust Isnomnia for a sec:)

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    ah at which bit?

  • @t1mmy13
    @t1mmy137 жыл бұрын

    Hehehehe, all I hear is static and ticking in rythm with the clock. To the debug machine!

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    6 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @oscarj0231
    @oscarj02317 жыл бұрын

    What is this thing?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    A Random Sequence generator which can be forever random locked, or partially locked to keep a familiar pattern while letting new data into the stream. It can be set to range of steps for odd number sequences.

  • @oscarj0231

    @oscarj0231

    7 жыл бұрын

    DivKidVideo so it is in effect a Bombe machine. Cool shit.

  • @jrgenhvad9834
    @jrgenhvad98347 жыл бұрын

    ahjæel

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    cheers

  • @jrgenhvad9834

    @jrgenhvad9834

    7 жыл бұрын

    tchjiærs

  • @moonzero-xm7014
    @moonzero-xm70147 жыл бұрын

    3:43 constantly repeating melody.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    it's supposed to be when the sequence is locked.

  • @moonzero-xm7014

    @moonzero-xm7014

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, wrote that as a note to myself, but apparently posted it. :P It seems to me like even when at 12 or 2-3, it will repeat this little high pitched melody though. I can hear it in your video too, at 3:46 and 3:53 for instance (when the knob is at 12). That little note sequence there. Oh, well, maybe it just sounds like that because it hits higher notes and the quantizer places them on the same note or something.

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    well it doesn't instantly go fully random. It opens up the chances that random information will work it's way into the data stream.

  • @chemicalBR0

    @chemicalBR0

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed this too I think it has a certain character sometimes that lets you know instantly its a turing that's creating the sequence.. this is from a document i found while digging through the open source stuff. "This circuit includes a transistor noise generator, so should create true random binary sequences. However, the structure of the sequencer and the nature of the digital-to-analog converter used seem to give a particular character - tones that rise and fall in a particular way" here's the original document if you want to read it all musicthing.co.uk/modular/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/random-sequencer-documentation-v2-1.pdf

  • @syl_diy
    @syl_diy8 жыл бұрын

    no more black faceplates?

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Pararadis Sy no they are getting phased out.

  • @tombola2004

    @tombola2004

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Pararadis Sy It's all open sources, so if you want to design an Acrylic faceplate for the new module, would be easy to do

  • @ozorg
    @ozorg7 жыл бұрын

    who is building a Turing Machine mkii 2016 for me?? too bad it's a diy kit only ...

  • @rarelycomments

    @rarelycomments

    7 жыл бұрын

    Learn to solder, it's not rocket surgery

  • @ozorg

    @ozorg

    7 жыл бұрын

    rarelycomments rocket science or brain surgery?? :) so much to learn, so little time ...

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    haha! Find someone who can build and pay them for their time.

  • @ozorg

    @ozorg

    7 жыл бұрын

    +DivKidVideo that's exactly what i want ..

  • @DivKid

    @DivKid

    7 жыл бұрын

    had any luck finding anyone?