If you watch my channel you know I am a Stingray guy, but I was super impressed with the P in this demo! If the situation was I had to run on stage, I think I would grab the P.

@hendralauw9890

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, i've been using stingray for 4years....what do you think about the string tension? Which one is harder the ray or the P bass? Because i think ray is harder to a jazz bass (i owned a jazz bass long ago)...cheers

@carlmontney7916

5 жыл бұрын

For grab n go the P wins every time. Passive and everything you need and nothing you don't. I like Ray's but a P sits in the mix great all the time. No surprise they're both designed by Leo Fender.

@brandyndillman5224

5 жыл бұрын

I actually worked at Music Man/Ernie Ball from 2005-2008. My bassisit had gotten a stingray bass and it totally brought him a sound that he didn't have with his previous bass. Then in '08 I had gotten one of the 20th anniversary silloute. And that guitar had become my number one. And the sound that his bass had and my guitar had when playing together definitely brought us a distinctive sound. And we we're a full on metal band. The great thing about the 20th anniv. Guitar is a "tone block" under the pick ups which gives it a certain sound. And up until they came out with that guitar I didn't really care for thier line up of guitars. The basses all sounded great especially the Bingo series. Best sounding bass I've ever heard. But ugly as sin. Looks like a can opener. But the range... Good Lord was awesome. So in short....lol I like the stingray bass. The Sterling sounds even better. But this is just my opinion. Take it... Don't.... Doesn't matter. Just speaking from my own experience. Ok.....Late.

@bassman5123

5 жыл бұрын

Not me!

@bassman5123

5 жыл бұрын

@@brandyndillman5224 Don't you mean Bongo? And yes, those things are butt-ugly!

"Which one rocks harder?" Plays them like they're gonna break...

@Truthsayer1979

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha dude this comment had me laughing the whole video!!

@sudipsaha5

4 жыл бұрын

Wtf !!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@dulanthathsara4761

3 жыл бұрын

Lol yes😂

@erlkonig6375

3 жыл бұрын

haha, thought the same thing.

@Nico7274

3 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha, no shit!!!

They both have the same dad

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

Great point. Leo made great kids 👶🏻

@jakublistwon

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but my fav is always their middle brother. I'm a J guy

@abandonedaccount6878

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob yeah, and the stingray. i just dont like the p bass :/

@ColonelSandurz

3 жыл бұрын

@@abandonedaccount6878 I never liked P-basses in the past either but the sound just grows on you. At least it did for me. I was never a huge fan of the P neck so I took the neck from my 2004 MIM J-bass and slapped it on a P bass body I bought on reverb and its now my dream bass. I ended up buying a Fender fretless neck for the J bass to get my Jaco on. Too bad I suck at fretless!

Stage -> Stingray Studio -> Pbass

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

One in each hand!

@lawrencevillegas7152

5 жыл бұрын

I have both and i definitely agree with luis

@coki257

5 жыл бұрын

Agree....

@wrongname3636

5 жыл бұрын

Stingray hurts your back in Stage, so PBass live and Stingray studio xD

@coki257

5 жыл бұрын

@@wrongname3636 If weight is a problem then you can use Ibanez SoundGear SR300 with a good effect & compressor to make it sounds heavy.

There is a bit more clarity in the stingray. The P-bass wasn't bad, but, the stingray had a bit of a brighter, more clear tone.

@mikeestill1672

4 жыл бұрын

DC Welker Yup! I play P-Bass, but i most definitely agree with you. There's no other way to say it

@barclaybass2327

3 жыл бұрын

More clear and full, better note definition and ass kicking lows....... I'll take the sting ray any day of the week. For 15 years I pretty much played all vintage BC rich bases with double P bass pickups in them but after I spent some time with a Stingray years ago, now all the basses I've gotten over the last 15 years all have Stingray style humbuckers with active EQ. It just gives you so many more options. Even P bass pickups Sound better with an active EQ added to them.

@Nico7274

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man, totally agree with that comment too. I was actually even wondering to myself while listening- '....hmmm, I wonder if the same type of strings are being used on both basses and if they were fresh out the pack?' The Ray def does have more 'clarity' or pronunciation (maybe is a good way to put it) to it's tone' Like I said in another comment....Ray->shit like slipknot or Rage or whatever of the sort. P->almost anything else.

@ray1ashwin

Жыл бұрын

Its because of the fretboard's wood material.

@GonzoJohn733

8 ай бұрын

@@ray1ashwin Haha no it's not. It's because of the active electronics. Unless you're reply was tongue-in-cheek.

Kind of have to hear them rocking to know which one rocks the best.

@foxmulder8862

4 ай бұрын

The best is and will allways be the Fender.

40 years of touring... Sting Ray 100% of the time

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

The HH Ray is one of the most versatile basses in the world. Deep vintage early 70's sound or trebley Geddy Lee sound. Series (HB) or Parallel (SC) switch. G& L the same thing. The H version of the SR is only good for a clicky clacky sound that's popular today.

@kongandbasses8732

4 жыл бұрын

@@bflo1000 You don't have a single H StingRay or StingRay 5? Thank to the EQ this basses have the most massive but versatile tone you can imagine. There is more to Explore than simply maxing out high and low end. Just try it before talking bullshit out of lacking knowledge.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@kongandbasses8732 No I don't. First of all I don't like the neck (I've at least played a SR). Prefer more of a J style neck. So for THAT reason alone I don't like the SR. I don't HAVE to own one to realize that the HH config would give me a hell of a lot more beef and if I WERE to buy one (IF I had the friggin money) then THAT'S the one I would get. And if you don't posts then don't fucking read them or reply back to them.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@kongandbasses8732 Oh and honestly, before I even looked at a SR I'd first look at the Schecter Stage. Also active HH, more comfortable neck for easier and faster playing, NT, also great quality for about half the price...

@jacobkubacki2719

Ай бұрын

Fender’s quality sucks these days. I love my Stingray5 man! Best built instrument I own.

Would grab the Pbass. Not because it's better or worse, but because in a pinch it's easier to get a workable tone out of it quickly with less margin for error!

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with your thoughts. After this demo I was super impressed with the new P tone.

@user-et8se3od1p

4 жыл бұрын

But that means less versatility.

@joncopperpot5333

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t agree at all, starting g playing a fender p bass I was a rubbish bass player, ditched it bought a mm stingray and my playing went up a notch almost over night. String ray handles better, much better, sounds better, looks better, is better. Fenders are grossly overrated in my book.

@Gary19702

Жыл бұрын

The musicman is still a fender (Leo fender designed it originally before ernie ball took over) so besides of the obvious pickup and electronic differences it's still for intents and purposes a fender instrument. The musicman offers more versatility tonality wise. P bass is classic and many argue the merits of it sitting in the mix live or recording settings. I say go with what feels and sounds right.

@reneebear3641

Жыл бұрын

@@joncopperpot5333 Tbh all fenders/gibsons/mms are overrated, that being said the biggest thing here is tone I’ve found p bass tone just *works* better & more naturally. Although I love stingrays the tone is a very specific one that doesn’t just fit whenever, & if I’m being honest if your ensemble isn’t built around the stingray’s tone it’s just kinda meh, that being said it takes distortion wonderfully in metal

Pbass. No battery, simple, + pure beautiful tone that just plain works... and for most about every application.

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

I just played my P at rehearsal a few days ago and you are right. Even some simple rolling of the tone knob really brought out some versatility.

@ljgarrison6910

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, does the Stingray not work in passive mode?

@bon2038

4 жыл бұрын

@@ljgarrison6910 There is no passive mode for the stingray

@HuckRock13

3 жыл бұрын

Stingray is better! Not SUB or Sterling, the better expensive kind actually made by Ernie Ball Music Man

@HuckRock13

3 жыл бұрын

Passive basses are good, but active is better IMO. I’ve played the expensive $2500 model, Sterling is good, but SUB is definitely NOT a MM. P Basses are better for studio recording or playing at home. Music Man are better for Live playing. If you are into slap bass/walking like I am, MM is definitely better at both.

I own around 100 guitars, but only one bass, and it's a Stingray.

@MrTennisgolf

3 жыл бұрын

Understandable.

@cordbox

3 жыл бұрын

Have a great day

@Alberto-ny7kf

3 жыл бұрын

100? what do you even do with 100 guitars?

@DozerMoto

3 жыл бұрын

so you dont play bass

@villusive

3 жыл бұрын

badass

The stingray had a “better“ tone. But in context with other instruments, I think the P bass would sound better. With few exceptions, the electric bass is an instrument of accompaniment, and how it mixes with the other instruments is paramount.

James Jamerson, Geezer Butler, Donald “Duck” Dunn, Carol Kaye, Pino Palladino, Steve Harris, Willie Weeks, Sting, Paul Simonon , John Paul Jones... they all don't lie.

@jackthomson5047

4 жыл бұрын

The music man stingray wasn't even around when any of them played so kind of unfair to say that.

@pg9551

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot the legend John entwistle

@alexandrosstogiannis9589

4 жыл бұрын

I have seen Palladino playing a Stingray as often as playing a p-bass.

@del5582

4 жыл бұрын

But John Paul Jones played a J Bass.

@francoforte-67

3 жыл бұрын

@@del5582 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yoql06-YYc2cg8Y.html

When you phrase it the way you did at the very beginning, not only is the answer P bass, but even most Stingray guys are going to pick the P bass too in that scenario. It's the safe "generic" choice for walking into an emergency situation like that. You want to make a good impression, you're humble, you're there to do a job and not steal the spotlight. It's a sign of respect to show up with a Fender in a situation like that. Not that a Stingray is a far out choice by any means, but between the two it has a far greater chance of doing something unexpected in the mix. As far as which "rocks harder", the Stingray certainly has a reputation for an aggressive sound, but a P bass can easily be made its equal in that regard while still retaining a sound that supports the band better. I love Stingrays too, and I own both. It's just that not many models compare favorably to a good P bass. The best way to regret buying that nice boutique bass is to sit down and compare it to your P.

@j.rhodesbass225

5 жыл бұрын

Well said!!

@OfficialMarkZuckerberg

5 жыл бұрын

if youre trying to really rock like he said, im not going to pick something "generic and safe". obviously, the roadie is going to have it set up for you. what rock shows are you going to that everyone is trying to be humble and not be in the spotlight? regardless the ray punches way harder and that's what you need at a live rock show.

The Stingray has a sound that makes an impression, until you realize you can't ever get rid of that sound. It's like the bass that wants to be a guitar. The P just sounds like a bass is supposed to sound and always does.

@handlewithoutsuitcase

4 жыл бұрын

True. I had have a Stingray 5, finally tired of it too Stingraish tone. Now have Yama BB and a PBass.

@gabrielalbo6911

4 жыл бұрын

unabonger777 I never saw it that way, it does make a lot of sense. Unless you absolutely love that Stingray sound or have enough cash to have both, you do get a much more neutral, classic tone with the P Bass. I personally own two basses: an American P Bass and a Flea Jazz Bass. I love to play around with the second because it has a lot of tone flexibility (being jazz and also having tone and volume stacked knobs for each pickup), but if I need to pick one, I always go with the P Bass reliability.

@Querymonger

4 жыл бұрын

The p-bass was the first bass guitar ever made, so it became the standard for how bass is "supposed" to sound.

@bsideguitar

4 жыл бұрын

You can find so great bongos on eBay for much less!

@unabonger777

4 жыл бұрын

Querymonger that's part of it for sure but the P-bass also emulates an upright bass tone in a way, and I believe Leo considered that the original "standard".

been messing with a stingray 5 for one year now and i feel like i should be able to give some decent opinions on the topic For starters, you will not get rid of that nasal sound. Period. It's just something that's a byproduct of it's only pickup being in the bridge section of the body and the natural tone of the bass. While still on the topic of it's annoyingly persistant nasal sound i'd like to point out that yes, even though it's got an Active 3knob EQ that won't fix this issue, for even the EQ itself suffers from it. You see, if my ears don't fail me the knob for the mids seems to affect *mostly* the low-mid range and that means that whenever you try to "flatten" the sound by cuting down on mids the bass will still sound nasal while also losing the "fullness" and definition of the notes themselves. In other words; yes, in theory you have a gigantic range of tones at your fingertips, but most of them besides the natural Stringtray tone will sound like a cheap knockoff version of the desired result. Another thing that messed me up; the highs. Personaly, i found the highs to be quite annoying as well because even though they have that distinctive bite to them that locks in with the mid-heavy nature of the stringray to create that aggresive growl of a tone they just really, REALLY like to pop for no apparent reason. No amount of trebble cutdown will save you from this and if you try to hit say, Jason Newsted's tone using a Stingray you'll become painfully aware of how bad it is. That's not to say that the Stingray has no strenghts to it though. On the opposite end of the table we have the lows. Oh god, the lows. Yeah, as if that beastly mid-range growl wasn't enough this fucker of a bass has enough low-end to fill your pants with the aftermath of the brown note with ease. I mean Seriously, treat the bass knob for the Active EQ as a weapon and give it proper respect or you'll blow either your roof or your amp, maybe both. Some say that it has too much low end and it makes the notes feel like they're stuck to mud, but that's mostly personal taste in my opinion. All in all the Stingray is a great bass if you want to cut through the mix. Great option to make melodic/complicated basslines and interludes come to life but no so much to lock in with the guitars since that mid-heavy tonality will fight with the guitars for the spotlight. If i had to describe owning a Stingray in the most mundane way possible, it'd be like being the parent of a noisy teenager. Sure, you can't help but admire how angry and full of life someone in their prime is, but sometimes you wish from the bottom of your heart he'd just shut the fuck up.

@ant2011

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the useful insight

@Dharma_Bum

4 жыл бұрын

That is gold advice. Thank you. Parent of two teenagers. 😂

@gabrielalbo6911

3 жыл бұрын

Loved that review. Every bass has its sound, some more distinct than others. I think the Stingrays just have a very characteristic sound that you did a great job describing. The P Bass is somehow similar (as in having a very peculiar voice), being the only difference the fact that we all just get to hear a lot more p basses in our lives because it is, still, the industry standard. So it's peculiar, but familiar. I also get a bit annoyed by the Stingray's highs. If you're slapping it with tone wide open and just a flat EQ, the pops already feel like a needle to me. Could be just personal preference, but even on jazz basses I roll the tone just a hair down not to get stung by too bright pops, and I think the stingrays are definitely on that side. But the growl, OMG. It's just unlike anything else. I currently own two basses: an American Pro P Bass (like in the video, one pickup) and a Flea signature jazz bass, which has those stacked knobs that allow you to roll down each pick up tone individually. I do want to get a 5 string bass and I'm a bit torn between a Stingray Special HH or a Warwick Corvette $$. If I get a Warwick I know I'll get a more adaptable, high quality, all-round modern tone that I can shape a lot. If I get a Stingray, I just get a Stingray.... but it's a Stingray.

@jery3385

3 жыл бұрын

Question, wouldn't a EQ pedal solve half of your problems?

@neilbassgroover1451

3 жыл бұрын

You say this but watching Pino on a fret less stingray playing wherever I lay my hat ? The tone is 😮 maybe it’s not the tool it’s how the workman wields it ? Dig your comments tho i mainly play a p I picked up a bass level sub and am thinking of purchasing a ray all input is good input

I Love both. But I would pick the Stingray. It allways works fine for me in live situations. Leo build the best basses in the whole world. The P the J and the Ray. He was a genius. They all work fine in every situation

The P bass is perfect in nearly all situations. It always sits perfectly in the mix and is a timeless classic...... and Steve Harris plays one.

@mashilmy

3 жыл бұрын

P basses sometimes still burried in the mix and the user is mostly if it's not a rock/metal bassist then a pop bassist so it means less versatility, Stingrays won't.. it always fits in the mix and every genres of song..even if you're not a good audio mixer. So i think stingray is the winner...

@67NewEngland

3 жыл бұрын

I find the only time a P is buried in the mix is when the strings and/or pickups provide no upper mid content. If they do you never get buried. And you never worry about a battery.

@Metalbass1979

3 жыл бұрын

@@67NewEngland Agreed! I love the sound of passive basses. Not having to worry about a dead battery is also awesome.

@shuruff904

2 жыл бұрын

@@mashilmy you are 100% correct. P Bass purists will argue all day, even though they know deep down inside the stingray was Leo Fender's best guitar ever

@nwb3

Жыл бұрын

@@shuruff904 Best is subjective, but do you think the p-bass can do things the stingray can't, and visa versa? Both use one pickup, of different types. So I would assume sound wise and genre wise one would fit into a category better.

Stingray. As much as I love the P-bass I think the Stingray is much more versatile and offers more of an aggressive tone.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

The SR sounds good in this demo. But he's using his fingers. P basses wound better w a pick. a SR or JB sounds TOO articulate w a pick. Many rockers prefer playing w a pick.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

Also, it's not only about sound. You would HEAR the SR better in the mix, but you FEEL the P bass more.

@mashilmy

3 жыл бұрын

@@bflo1000 stingrays still sounds good with a pick i think, bc it has a 3 band EQ so you can adjust the tone by yourself..you need a brighter tone? Just crank up the treble, if you need muddier or darker tone, just crank down the treble/mid

@am0ungth3l1ving

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard a P bass with overdrive? Probably one of the most aggressive bass tones you can get, especially played with a pick

@salamancadingding

2 жыл бұрын

@@am0ungth3l1ving ain't that the Truth! Since this comment I have gone through one p-bass and now I'm playing a jazz. Funny how things change!

I have been playing bass since 1971 and I have played many, many basses. The P is still my favorite and works with every type of music.

@borgir9817

3 жыл бұрын

... just realised you played before my dad was even born lol

@sbentsen2714

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 👌🏼

@RK_peace

2 жыл бұрын

Does it cut it for metal? such as Metallica and Pantera?

@Spritsailor

2 жыл бұрын

@@RK_peace With the right EQ and the right strings....yes!

@RK_peace

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spritsailor what strings would you recommend ?

The P bass. I appreciate the Stingray but each time I’ve bought a 2 band or the new 3 band, it just does not work for me. I’m a pBass or jBass guy. To each there own.

@BreakupBass

5 жыл бұрын

same here, i used to have a few different stingrays but now I own an american P and J. Thats all I need.

I own a couple of both and love them all but the P Bass is my favorite. The P ust has such a classic tone, great feel and rock solid build

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

The new Professional P feels much better to me than the recent American Standard stuff. Had a few of those and the neck was a little off, but these new ones feel great!

For live, I would grab the Stingray, but for sessions, it would depend on the session, but would probably grab the P Bass

P bass for me. Simple, rocks hard, the everything sound, iconic design, no battery..

I love both basses, and he nailed it with “you can’t make a bad choice”. personally I generally enjoy playing the Stingray more than the P-bass. Let’s face it, it’s in the playing , but Tony Levin’s tone with a Stingray, wow!

I had a stingray for 10 years and loved it - both in studio and live. I now play an American Elite P bass and its the best bass I've ever had.

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

Have you played and American Deluxe? How does the changes they made from the Deluxe to Elite change the bass in your opinion?

Music man Stingray forever.

@psyche5893

3 жыл бұрын

No

@antonioruiz821

3 жыл бұрын

@@psyche5893 yes MTF

You can never ever go wrong on a P bass.

i have both. depends on the music

I have had both, and I gravitate toward the stingray. That said, I gravitate toward MY stingray, a passive stingray.. I am a big guy and I prefer to play toward the bridge of the bass so having the SR pickup right there is perfect for me, not to mention the wider nut makes things easier for my big hands. Also another little thing, the pickup on the SR is a lot bigger so it gives me more options for thumb anchoring. With the P bass, it sounds fine, but I always feel a little squished when I play it.

The P, no eq settings to fiddle with since there's no opportunity for a sound check. Volume and tone all the way on and start playing.

-I’ve always wished the Stingray was designed to still have output even if the battery died like a G&L can.

I play a lot of extreme metal and alternative rock stuff, and im stuck between a sterling stingray HH and a Fender Aerodyne with PJ pups. Anybody got any tips that would point me in the right direction because both seem great to me.

what does P stand for ? precision bass?

@babayaga1767

5 жыл бұрын

yes. it was called the precision bass because it was the first bass that was fretted. thus being able to play with precision

P-Bass with Seymor Duncan Quarterpounder, Maple Fretboard and Flats

@RisvoldTheGreat

5 жыл бұрын

Lol ok Steve harris, try sounding like yourself.

@LeRagster

5 жыл бұрын

A few years back I would've agreed with you (apart from the maple fretboard). I used to wax lyrical about my Quarterpounder until it failed. A luthier had put it into my Jap Squier Precision (for no real reason other than because he had it lying around and I was impressed by the meaty name) and I decided to try and get back to (as close to) the original as I could get on eBay. When I put it in I was knocked out. On paper it was not a particularly special pickup but the tone was warm in a way that still rocked and it has soul. Quarterpounders are seriously overweighted in the low end but have no real sonic appeal to my (older) ears. There are much better pickup options that give you far more tonal options and you can always dial up that low end bass with EQ or FX if that is your thing.Try going veggie - you won't regret it!

@Darryl6636

5 жыл бұрын

Yah man just like Steve Harris uses

@RisvoldTheGreat

5 жыл бұрын

Never buy a signature model bass or guitar, you want to sound like yourself not replicating another artist.

@Hennu_TRM

5 жыл бұрын

Haha that's not really at all an answer to the question he asked in the video... would be a pretty nice bass set up though.

I've owned an American P bass for 40 years. That's all I need.

Hello all! What about P bass vs Dimension bass? I am trying between the two! Whats your opinion?

I'm the original owner of a vintage Sting Ray and I started on a Precision borrowed from school. The biggest difference is that the Music Man can have gobs of high end if you want it to. Sometimes I play with a pick and just want a "smash" at the beginning of every note and sometimes I want to dial the treble EQ down and play fingerstyle to make it just seem "normal." But that "normal" speaks with a real authority. The Precision - if only by self-reference - is more "classic." I've heard them sound wonderful when some high-mids are allowed out but that's not how you usually hear them.

I would grab the stingray and run out of the building cause’ I don’t know how to play 😃

@bsideguitar

3 жыл бұрын

HA!

I would never own a bass with less than 21 frets Because I couldn't play the orion solo

@jbvaav8474

4 жыл бұрын

Cause you compose alot on the 15th thru 21st frets all the time!? Lol

@BPattB

4 жыл бұрын

Lol, lol, lol that was pretty funny

@DanielSmith-yk4ds

4 жыл бұрын

work your finger muscles and bend....wait we are bass players why are you over 20th

I put flats on my stingray and it offset the inherent brightness perfectly. From there I don't feel there's a sound that I can get from my p-bass that i can't get with my stingray.

@Tedman2punk

3 жыл бұрын

Flats on a stingray?....you’re a monster! Jk! Lol

@johnquintmatt1986

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you offset the brightness of the stingray?!!! Heresy!

I've been using them both for the last few years. Then... Sold my Stingray and bought another Pbass from 1978 ... No regrets. The way Music Man plays is almost unbeatable but the Power and sound of a good Pbass .... 😍

P-Bass IS my go-to for stage and studio. I used to have a sweet Ray along with others over the years but a Fender P is my only must have. Rock on!

How are you getting such a nice smooth tone out of the sting ray ? I would've thought they'd be a lot zingy-er and harder to tame. Also what tone settings are you using for the pbass ?

Any studio or sound engineer prefer P Bass. Sounds way better in the mix....

@thiagodeandradeneves4585

5 жыл бұрын

I guess the reason for that is that most producers/engineers like the bass sitting behind in the mix and are more familiarized with the Precision. For someone playing an in-your-face bass style like, Red Hot Chili Peppers or Jamiroquai, the Stingray would be a better choice.

@mindhead2005

5 жыл бұрын

Better how? It's possible to get almost any bass to site in a mix It's what a mix is for

@thiagodeandradeneves4585

5 жыл бұрын

The Stingray is way more mid/high and punchy sounding than the P. That's why the Stingray and the Fender Jazz are so common between slap-heavy, front of the stage players.

@mindhead2005

5 жыл бұрын

Thiago de Andrade Neves So assuming that's correct, they can't mix a stingray why? I'm sorry but that's just lore

@thiagodeandradeneves4585

5 жыл бұрын

@@mindhead2005 you're being too literal. Of course you can do, but you'll have to compress a Stingray's mids and highs to make it sound warmer and less aggresive in the mix, while the P-Bass sounds like that naturally.

P Bass every time. Instinctive, simple, versatile. Great sound. Welcome at any party.

I've owned and loved both but I now just play the P bass.

@mrarturmeireles

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

Real easy for me--I've been shopping for a better bass, and I have tried several of each. Being older and having small hands, fretting is generally hard for me. The EBMM, even the Sterlings, are infinitely more comfortable in my hands. I like to test ease of playing with one step intervals, both picked, and I find them more difficult to nail accurately on the Precision. I can take my POS Sterling Sting Ray, hold it out from my body, and nail them every time. I put my hands on a $2600 Stingray today, and it was like butter. I couldnt miss a note. As far as sound goes, if you are putting it into a DAW, then you are going to tweak it, anyway. Ease of playing is much more important in my world.

If I want to be Jamerson, Ronnie Baker or Duck Dunn, I'm going with the P. If I want to be Bernard Edwards, Louis Johnson or John Deacon, I'll go with the MM. Can't go wrong with either!

Have a P-Bass and a Stingray. Love them both. 2 classics!

@jacobmcvay123

Жыл бұрын

Which do you prefer? Can only afford one $1500-2k bass lol. I like the funky tones of the stingray but I have a fender Strat and always loved Fender’s look/shape.

Stingray all day long the best necks in the world.

@antonyhope8708

4 жыл бұрын

MrOrange true

Having both, I'd tend toward the stingray, but would need to know the battery is good, strings on each, and the music specifics

Did you set the eq on the ray on center?

I love both. But to answer your question, the Stingray. But both are great.

I could never get used to the stingray. Somehow it lacks personality IMO. Super bassy and super trebly, no mids. That sound of strings hitting the frets just drives me nuts. I mean no disrespect to anyone, please. That’s just my opinion not an unquestionable truth. And amongst the Fenders, PBass is king.

It's natural to see Stingray excel more than the P-bass because it's an active bass. That EQ with the battery gives more gain for the pickup and it gives more signal to the amp.

Stingray with flatwounds are very funky!!

@kafkareicer4549

4 жыл бұрын

Hello you play a stingray with flats ?

@E_MZ_

4 жыл бұрын

@@kafkareicer4549 I play a sterling by Music Man with flats

Surprisingly, the Music Man Stingray, had a more responsive sound, from your doodling!! IMO.....leif

I've owned both, and the Precision bass totally owns the Stingray in every way for me. As soon as you open the tone on the Stingray it's just too clicky and obviously 'active'. The precision is raw and throaty OR warm and thumpy. The greatest bass in the world.

@ig55

5 жыл бұрын

In fact, a G&L L2000/L2500 would own any MusicMan model ever existed, and every Fender except the Precision. Leo created the Precision and Jazz, sold Fender to CBS. He went on to create MusicMan, improving his designs, and sold that to Earnie Ball. He founded G&L in 1980, and the L series is his pinnacle in bass electronics. The reason I exclude the P is that it is so simple and so right, that it needs no improvement. Btw, G&L nails the P sound so damn close, as well.

@ig55

5 жыл бұрын

Here's my demo recording on an L2500 kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6lq0baoe5y_gKg.html&t=

@martian9999

5 жыл бұрын

@@ig55 thanks for the interesting opinion! I wonder: what do you think of the M2000?

@ig55

5 жыл бұрын

@@martian9999 I was quite excited when G&L announced the M series. I went to a music store to test drive one, as soon as they became available. It did not impress me over the L series, though. It's a very good quality active bass with a traditional 3-band EQ, but not nearly as versatile as an L2000. Anyway, I'd probably prefer it to a Fender Deluxe Jazz or Precision :)

@Enjoimaschine

5 жыл бұрын

Have you spent any time with a G&L SB-2?

All my life (and I’m 63 at the moment) I’ve been a Höfner and Rickenbacker lad. Last year 2019 I decided to get a P bass. I was very surprised by the tone !!! Unfortunately with the pandemic, I haven’t been able to use it in gigs yet. It has a very distinguished sound, so different to the Höfner, the Rickenbacker and the Steinberger that I also owned. I’m happy with it. Never played a Stingray, can’t compare its tone to the rest. In your video, both seem similar in tone. That’s my experience. Cheers !!!

@trolley4388

11 ай бұрын

Becaus of McCartney I suppose

It’s like comparing apples with pears. One with active a microphone, and the other with dynamic.

I really loved the tone of the Stingray

I'm a die-hard Fender guy, however, I love my Stingray. But if I was in a hurry going onstage, I would choose the Precision Bass because of the tonal simplicity. I wouldn't want to have to mess around with a 3-band EQ up on stage when I could just roll up a single tone knob. If I had the option though, I would choose a Jazz Bass, my favorite of all time, the Swiss Army knife of basses IMO.

@SantiagoRodriguez-fe6ng

3 жыл бұрын

stingray its fender too so you are not disapointing anyone

@Renegade8652

2 жыл бұрын

@@SantiagoRodriguez-fe6ng Fender makes Stingrays?

@SantiagoRodriguez-fe6ng

2 жыл бұрын

@@Renegade8652 No, the inventor whose name is Fender also created the stingray, he was one of the founders of Music Man too.

@Renegade8652

2 жыл бұрын

@@SantiagoRodriguez-fe6ng Damn, that's crazy, I should have know that.

@goodtimes12342

2 жыл бұрын

@@SantiagoRodriguez-fe6ng Stingray IS Music Man.... that's redundant. Did you mean he's also one of the founders both Music Man and G&L?

How come yours P-bass is so white? I got the exact same and it's not so snowy

I'd get a stingray and jam a p-bass pickup right up against the stingray pickup as close as possible to the correct location, install a little toggle switch on the control plate, and have the best of both worlds:)

Love them both, but if only one, P Bass for life. :)

In your scenario: P-Bass. I'm more familiar (even though I recently got into Musicman) and there's fewer options. To me the P-Bass's basic tone always works, so fewer ways to mess up the bass tone is better in a "hurry up" situation.

@kraigompls

5 жыл бұрын

I also think your demo puts the P-Bass at a disadvantage because it's slightly lower gain in your demos.

@sahandesil8932

5 жыл бұрын

+kraigompls 👍👍👍👉👉👉👉

I'm a diehard P-bass player. I do own a stingray, and as for that opening question, if I'm ready to jump on stage, I would grab the Stingray

I have a 1978 stingray. I brought it when brand new . It’s been an absolute beast indestructible and versatile. It also has a more even tone than the pbass there’s no hot spots and still has a beautiful fat tone up the neck.

Great video! I have a P-bass and a J-bass, and I dream of expanding my collection, by adding a Stingray to it. Maybe some day.

Grab the P Bass it never lets you down

I do love both but if I was running on stage and need a quick minute decision, P-Bass only because I’ve ALWAYS played a lot on P-Basses. I’m too used to them.

Though the Stingray had a more even tone on the high end and sounded more consistent, the P had better lows and highs can be adjusted along with amp and compression.

My P bass has a Badass bridge II, an absolutely beautiful birds eye maple Warmouth Neck, Steve Harris pickups and Hip-shot tuners. I play it one of every three practices. The Stingray is all Stock and I play it 2 out of every 3 practices. Bottom line, If you want to be cool and get laid, you need to have both these basses in your arsenal.

I`ve owned both (amongst others) but the P bass is the best all -round, fit in anywhere instrument.

Which one do you think would be better for people (me) with sausage fingers? I've tried playing guitar for years, but I want to switch to the bass.

I played a P-Bass in a metal band for years. Whenever we want to record our first album in told the engineer that I would only used my p bass and he said "good cuz I was gonna make you use one anyway" lol

P Bass. Hard to not get a good sound out of it. Not to mention, it's extremely F.O.H.-friendly straight from the DI Box.

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

Good point about FOH. If the sound man is happy, we are happy 😃

The P-bass is the emperor with no clothes.......Stingrays have always had a better overall tone that lets the bassists parts be articulated better.....your playing examples proved it. That being said...use what you like and color the sound to fit the song best, yes even a P-bass.

I'm new to the bass and been researching a lot. In this demo, the StingRay was easier to hear with volume, note clarity and tone. Though I also believe the P bass is the classic go to bass for any situation. If I was experienced on the road with gigs and could only take one bass, I would take the P bass as the main bass. I think I would like the StingRay for down and dirty rocking.

Well if we’re playing super low tuning lowers then c then a stingray but if we’re playing drop c drop d or above then a fender

I love the stingray but I’d have to grab the precision

Stingray but I love them both

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

The feeling is mutual, definitely both great basses!

I’d go with the P-Bass. The simplicity and the fact that one would be hard pressed to dial in a bad tone with a P-Bass makes it my go-to, especially if running headlong into the unknown.

Well, there's 8 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I like the Stingray better although the p-bass is favored for its stronger mid tones, I didn't hear that in your samples.

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

New recording gear coming next week so you should hear it more in upcoming videos. Thanks for chiming in!

@bflo1000

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. The P bass sounded much flatter than the punchier SR.

P-Bass absolutly!!!!! It just ROCKssss

I think I prefer the tone from p basses , they seem to be more organic , open sounding old fashioned tone. Having said that a stingray is a great gig workhorse because it just had a really tight punchy lower mid sound and always cuts through the mix without sounding boomy .

Both have qualities unique to one another down to design, pickup placement, on board electronics, and neck shape. The musicman has more tonal possibilities, but the pbass has the one tone that fits everything nearly perfect. Pbass is good for metal and tone (depending on your amp and equipment) while the Musicman honestly has the better slap sound.

I can't consider a Stingray until they make a passive pick-up only version. That's always been a deal breaker for me.

@sd3falco

5 жыл бұрын

same here

@christostefan

5 жыл бұрын

The old Ibanez basses from the early 80s had a great passive humbucker. So I know they can do it. Active eq is my only complaint about the Stingray.

@totomerino569

5 жыл бұрын

I bought an used Sub Ray5, I took off the preamp and left it in passive mode, with only volume and tone and i love it!

@bassman5123

5 жыл бұрын

They should just make them with a switch to go from active to passive, especially since the pups are passive in the first place. (only the electronics are active) In fact, I have a few basses with that exact feature. And although I love my Stingrays, I'll never buy a bass again that doesn't have that ability. However, some people say that if you just take the battery (or let it die) out of a Stingray it will become passive, albeit without any tone control. But apparently, it depends on what year it was made.

@christostefan

5 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thank you. If I get one I'll probably just go straight to the input like I did on an old bass I have.

I think a comparison of a Music Man Sting Ray vs. an Elite or Ultra P-Bass would have been better. That way it would have been active vs active. I know there are a ton of active basses out there that offer a passive mode, but I am not sure if the Sting Ray offers that option to make it passive or not. Active pickups really have their own unique sound so it should not be compared to passive.

I miss the old American Deluxe P Basses, that came with a P and a MM. Fender now offers their American Ultra, but it’s only a P with a single J.

I've been playing the Precision since I was 13. I've played and owned others in my life including the Stingray but I have always come back to the Fender Precision, split coil, maple fretboard, customizable 4 string bass guitar. Grand daddy of all mass produced basses. Often imitated and often duplicated. The Stingray has a place in my heart but only if I can split the signal and distort the hell out of the amp feed. And if I played for a black metal band... Which doesn't seem likely at my age.

p 4ever. also: batteries suck

P bass, I love that deep bassy tone. I hate J basses so much lol.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

Me too, but we are in the minority. J bass is probably the most commonly bass used worldwide.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

Sound wise P Bass, but I prefer the neck on the J. J bass w PJ pups for the win....

@Direwoof

4 жыл бұрын

@@bflo1000 Im the opposite I hate the J bass neck. I have huge hands and it hurts my hands I like the bigger neck on a bass.

@bflo1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@Direwoof Yeah, I have small hands, LOL.

Stingray for me every time unless I'm playing Motown songs. In the studio it has to be a P but I am addicted to the ballsy and commanding tone of my 2000 5 string Stinger.

Was a really long time till I decided to get the Stingray, and I'm totally happy with it. 😁

un demo de bajos sin slap! aleluya!

Stingray is much better and cuts through a live mix better. My sound guy says my stingray is the best bass he has ever mixed in a live situation. I have a 2018 special HH

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

What a sweet bass! What color did you get? So far my fav to look at is the Aqua with Ebony board.

@SanNjig

5 жыл бұрын

The Bass Factory it is white. Here is a video of me playing it onstage. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fn95pZaxpti8pdo.html

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

Looks 👍 great. Where is the church located?

@SanNjig

5 жыл бұрын

The Bass Factory North Attleboro, MA

@bsideguitar

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I will have to check it out if I ever get that way.

I love sting rays for everything but the way they feel for me playing. They're just a little too lunky for my liking so I'm kind of stuck in my Fender ways. Been trying to branch out and been looking at Ibanez sr300s if anyone has any input on those. Sting Rays are fantastic though. I highly suggest either, just my personal preference is Fender.

The Stingray sounded great, but the warmth of the P was subtle and I felt it more. I'd like to see a MIM Active Deluxe P against that active Stingray.