Mural on side of coffee shop in Altadena causing controversy amongst community members

A mural on the side of a popular coffee shop in Altadena is causing a stir, with proponents seeing it as artistic expression, but opponents seeing it as a violent work that doesn't belong on a city street.
KTLA 5's Sara Welch reports. (March 28, 2023)
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  • @Safferz
    @Safferz Жыл бұрын

    Those aren’t knives, those are just feathers to tickle the other guy.

  • @kyotodreamz871

    @kyotodreamz871

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @probindemufhoes42069
    @probindemufhoes42069 Жыл бұрын

    Lmao those two people arguing over the mural while they were filming is like something out of The Onion. Looks like something out of Jordan Peele’s candyman 😂

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to clown 🤡 planet 🌏

  • @ide1337myself
    @ide1337myself Жыл бұрын

    How is two old ladies not liking a mural a news story?

  • @psyndicated5929
    @psyndicated5929 Жыл бұрын

    They need to rethink the corporate advertisements posted on bus stops and billboards with truly grotesque an tragic message! It’s a double standard for corporates!!!!😡

  • @beffis1980
    @beffis1980 Жыл бұрын

    It looks angry for sure. arguing while being recorded because they think it promotes violence. What’s the irony in that?

  • @aneuno2
    @aneuno2 Жыл бұрын

    Im a muralist, Ive always believed that art is whatever the onlooker wants it to mean. It is though provoking and unscripted. I know this artist's work and respect his neutral aesthetics. people need to chill and let art be art. If this painter only painted what people dictate he should paint, then it wouldnt be art anymore. It would just be another sign and LA already has too many signs. We need more culture in the streets. This mural is already doing its job, by getting neighbors to converse.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @dibdap2373

    @dibdap2373

    10 күн бұрын

    Bit of a stupid take really.

  • @Skerp129
    @Skerp129 Жыл бұрын

    This seems like something from a joke article

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to clown 🤡 planet 🌏

  • @mlpartclub412
    @mlpartclub412 Жыл бұрын

    They look a bit like Fecilier’s shadow minions in The Princess and the Frog.

  • @cmonz9
    @cmonz9 Жыл бұрын

    These parents act like their kids don’t play video games. They’re the most prudent parents in front of the camera.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to clown 🤡 planet 🌏

  • @BudaKhan420
    @BudaKhan420 Жыл бұрын

    It does look like one of the brothers is decapitated. It doesn’t promote violence. It depicts the violence that’s already been there for many years.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @haven_lady675

    @haven_lady675

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds like the origin story of the founding of the city of Rome.

  • @nosouponhead
    @nosouponhead Жыл бұрын

    It's depicting violence. Disgusting and inappropriate for art in public.

  • @manonamission2000
    @manonamission2000 Жыл бұрын

    Rorschach is laughing his a$$ off

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to clown 🤡 planet 🌏

  • @ishab745
    @ishab745 Жыл бұрын

    I think kids are more triggered by school shootings in their minds, rather than some knockoff of a famous Greek painting on the wall…

  • @antonettej8904

    @antonettej8904

    Жыл бұрын

    Factsss

  • @GetOutsideYourself
    @GetOutsideYourself Жыл бұрын

    People need to chill. You don't like the mural, buy your coffee at anodyne Starbucks where the worst offense is saying "Happy Holidays" and maybe misspelling your name.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    Or they falsely accuse me of creampieing the female workers lol 😂

  • @quashaunali3048
    @quashaunali3048 Жыл бұрын

    Why not just commend the artist on a job well done .. I dont understand, this world sucks

  • @damelalana
    @damelalana Жыл бұрын

    Dood. Picasso’s Guernica? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that mural. People see what the F they wanna see.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @kinggenesis1361
    @kinggenesis1361 Жыл бұрын

    If it would have been two grown men in dresses kissing I'm sure it wouldn't be that big a deal for kids to see....

  • @allymoeller5328
    @allymoeller5328 Жыл бұрын

    Keep it up!!!

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
    @LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Жыл бұрын

    Rosarsach effect. Simple minded people will see odd imagery, get triggered etc. This is literally a method of determining if a person is borderline mentally ill. A normal person won't care/will see art. A borderline person will be triggered and "see bad things" --- this is a masterpiece 😅

  • @Aaron_Davis

    @Aaron_Davis

    Жыл бұрын

    This is one of those, “I’m so smart, I’m stupid” kind of comments

  • @dwindlefoddl7225

    @dwindlefoddl7225

    Жыл бұрын

    A masterpiece..?! Where?!

  • @XerxezsX
    @XerxezsX Жыл бұрын

    Then cancel hip hop and rap 👌

  • @on2wheels378
    @on2wheels378 Жыл бұрын

    Oh brother. People are something that isn't there. Like the Virgin Mary or Jesus on toast... 🥴

  • @luckap79
    @luckap79 Жыл бұрын

    It’s actually pretty cool . Ppl are p$$$ys

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @Aaron_Davis
    @Aaron_Davis Жыл бұрын

    “There’s a guy screaming with an angry face, a guy strangling another guy, a guy wielding what looks to be a butcher knife as a weapon, but I don’t see violence tho. Only art.” 😑

  • @libbyfransen7053

    @libbyfransen7053

    Жыл бұрын

    You see life.. Where do you think the content comes from? It’s not the art coming first.

  • @DiggersParadiseThriftShopRWhyt
    @DiggersParadiseThriftShopRWhyt Жыл бұрын

    The women who is fighting the art. She's not proud of black art. She doesn't support the black coummunity

  • @mercedese500sport
    @mercedese500sport Жыл бұрын

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH 🎤 🇺🇸 GOD BLESSED THE USA

  • @Yjn75
    @Yjn75 Жыл бұрын

    It's gives off bad vibes I feel

  • @erringent
    @erringent Жыл бұрын

    Yall are way too soft

  • @antonettej8904

    @antonettej8904

    Жыл бұрын

    👏🏼👏🏼💯🎯

  • @fatcizzle
    @fatcizzle Жыл бұрын

    Makes no sense, MY Place cafe is better.

  • @Wolfcamp555
    @Wolfcamp555 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe thow some soup on it.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 Жыл бұрын

    It's doing what good art does and that is to make people think (people don't like that these days). I certainly don't see it as promoting violence in a community but I do see war monuments as doing such. This mural seems to be criticizing violence and the war monument glorifies it.

  • @neutrolatino
    @neutrolatino Жыл бұрын

    "Is just too dark in nature"... So they complain now about their nature?

  • @YOUR_MOTHER_WENT_TO_COLLEGE
    @YOUR_MOTHER_WENT_TO_COLLEGE Жыл бұрын

    That's the main point of art, to each individual has his/her/it's own interpretation.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @nosouponhead

    @nosouponhead

    Жыл бұрын

    That's not the point of art. The point of art is to express beauty.

  • @bluelava4282
    @bluelava4282 Жыл бұрын

    Art is controversial which is good…… Beauty’s in the Eye of Beholders 👀

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @bluelava4282

    @bluelava4282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Christopher-qq4dl 🎨 👌

  • @randylplampin1326
    @randylplampin1326 Жыл бұрын

    It has this Guernica/Picasso feeling to it.

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @Awokensheep2010
    @Awokensheep2010 Жыл бұрын

    I see it

  • @shiningbearable
    @shiningbearable Жыл бұрын

    paint flower bouquets over the knives

  • @paulroggenbeck3129
    @paulroggenbeck3129 Жыл бұрын

    Yea, it's art. VIOLENT art. Who would have a sense of peace looking at that trash. Sick!

  • @Idol76
    @Idol76 Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @xgreasexmonkey5506
    @xgreasexmonkey5506 Жыл бұрын

    Great free advertisement…

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @ymcghee40
    @ymcghee40 Жыл бұрын

    I think it's thought-provoking. Seems like it triggered the lady speaking against it.

  • @libbyfransen7053
    @libbyfransen7053 Жыл бұрын

    For arts sake.. cry me a real problem. It’s a coffee shop.. art is inherently subjective. Go to another coffee shop if your so offended. Honestly.. what folks get their undies in a bundie over. Let me guess.. Retired? If you believe it only belongs in an art museum that’s a form of censorship. And to worry about the consequences of children seeing it? Are you actually serious? I’m confident those neighborhood children will not view the art the same way the old people do so why would you put your opinion and life prejudices of this art on those children? Sword or feather? Their worldview is likely unlike mine or yours. It’s already a successful art piece if it stirs controversy and promotes conversation. Artists have been provocateurs for a millennia .. the bland man prefers a white wall so he can be comfortable seeing what he can control under the guise of protecting children. Such a noble gesture and yet it’s Interesting he didn’t offer it to be painted over to purple or a rainbow. Kids do LOVE rainbows.

  • @mochedda6840
    @mochedda6840 Жыл бұрын

    It's just art there's nothing wrong with it... The ladies just a hater...

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @LaRithaShanklin-Skye
    @LaRithaShanklin-Skye Жыл бұрын

    Violence breeds Violence 😢...she may have a point. It would have been thoughtful if the artist could have used their platform to build character or something to work towards in life. Peace and Blessings

  • @ide1337myself

    @ide1337myself

    Жыл бұрын

    A work of art is not violence.

  • @Salamander407

    @Salamander407

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @libbyfransen7053

    @libbyfransen7053

    Жыл бұрын

    People breed violence, art is art. Who says the artist did not build character or instill inspiration in another?

  • @LaRithaShanklin-Skye

    @LaRithaShanklin-Skye

    Жыл бұрын

    @ide1337myself you are correct... the feeling I got was a negative one afterwards. Now, the display was crafted beautifully. I just had a negative feeling upon reflection of this art. The community, the kids, and what's the hidden meaning here... to grab a knife? Or be wary of some attack? What's the message? it's feels sad to me for the children and the ones that live nearby.

  • @socialeconomicpoliticalana1128

    @socialeconomicpoliticalana1128

    Жыл бұрын

    I live in the area of this mural. There is violence coming from a certain group in an otherwise nice community. This mural raises the issue of violence in the community and encourages community members to present facts, truths and ideas for solutions. Hurt feelings or truths that one does not like to hear cannot be reasons to shut down speech and expression.

  • @stoogel
    @stoogel Жыл бұрын

    First the hipster coffee shops, then the public art, next thing you know they buy up your grandma's house with cash.

  • @JL-rd5gn
    @JL-rd5gn Жыл бұрын

    give it a few days and the gangbangers will have it covered with their own 'artwork'

  • @Christopher-qq4dl

    @Christopher-qq4dl

    Жыл бұрын

  • @libbyfransen7053

    @libbyfransen7053

    Жыл бұрын

    Street art is an actual talent.. you might not like it but go give it a whirl and see.

  • @antonettej8904
    @antonettej8904 Жыл бұрын

    Karen needs hush on black culture it's our history and it's just art . Kids have to worry about schools being a safe place right now their not even worried about that painting. Some folks don't like the truth on what's really going on.

  • @nosouponhead

    @nosouponhead

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't realize you owned the mural.

  • @beyondhuman3148
    @beyondhuman3148 Жыл бұрын

    Only the mentally disturbed would think violence is art💨🤪

  • @leighfoulkes7297

    @leighfoulkes7297

    Жыл бұрын

    Like in video games or the painting glorifying war.

  • @roundtop2023
    @roundtop2023 Жыл бұрын

    Black Lives Matter, I hope!

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Жыл бұрын

    Lol