I'd LOVE to see you do a series where you dig into the character design like this, kinda like RelaxAlax's Know Your Moves

@spaceinky3628

Жыл бұрын

I’d absolutely love that, since these characters have so much references crammed into them.

@SantosBASED

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceinky3628 yeah dude that would be amazing!

@ClipsShorts_

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceinky3628 facts

About Bugs's briefcase : his main mean of travel is digging underground, most of the time he needs to carry his stuff around so there plenty of example of bugs holding a briefcase

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Fair. Though, this was the only one I was able to find in the time I was researching this video. And I tweeted this easter egg and Tony, the lead dev of PFG, liked and retweeted it. Seemingly confirming this is a direct easter egg.

@Mylca

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost There's an episode on "Looney Tunes Show" where he has that exact animation with the briefcase, as far as I can remember!

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see it!

One thing i noticed and love is that on the adventure time stage there is always a snail in a random spot like how in almost every adventure time episode they have a snail hidden in the background. Also 2 of my favorite voice lines are shaggy telling batman " they'll have to call you bruised Wayne when im done with you" which is not only a pun but also means shaggy knows batmans identity and batman when fighting on the batcave stage " how do all of you keep getting in here"

@Supreme_King23

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeahh I heard some of the lines while playing, great details 🔥

The statement about feeling like you have to think like Batman when playing him perfectly sums up how I've been feeling about the game. I'm a Jake main, and the way he plays is exactly how I had imagined it would be based on the show.

I really hope this translates to the marketing for the game since it's a live service, imagine smash style announcement trailers for characters and new seasons to keep the hype going. Great vid.

@MisterPlague

Жыл бұрын

yeah, Im actually pumped about it, and also its roaster can be bigger, it has the potential to, I hope they keep up with our expectations

Arya‘s pie that drops after she gets ring out is a reference to when she destroyed House Frey…it’s a pretty dark scene but I it’s great to see that the developers put in so much effort . These characters are awesome I literally laugh at times and can’t even play serious 😂

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Haha you pointing this out is funny. I had thought it was obvious, but that's only cause I'm a GoT fan. Makes me kinda wish I'd made a part of the video about that haha. But your comment is both relevant and true.

@XIIIOmega

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost haha yeah you’re completely right if your a GoT fan then you probably know about that pie lol. I actually just learned about it the other day. Great Vid btw !

I’d love to see you go character by character and analyze each and every little thing about them.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Maybe some day that's something I could spend time on :). It's not a bad idea. Though I've got some other stuff on the priority list first.

I love that every character has some kind of gimmick It’s the anti-Smash effect. Older characters won’t be as outclassed by newer ones with gimmicks because they’re all gimmicky to begin

In that very Bugs Bunny episode about the bull, Bugs says something like "I should have turned in Albuquerque" which, I'm not sure if it applies to the English version, but it's one of Bug's voice lines in the Spanish dub (from Spain).

I've noticed the attention to detail in some characters but I hadn't taken the time to look at it closely. This was very well made, great video! Would love to see more like this ❤

As a Lebron main I can understand where you're getting when talking about how him and Arya are real life people being in Multiversus. Although for Lebron I would make an exception since he was a cartoon in Space Jam 2 movie. But regardless I do enjoyed this indepth anaylsis on Multiversus video, thank you.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Had they used a design more similar to the one from Space Jam 2, it might have changed my analysis a bit to be honest. At least, how I approached it.

It'd be great if you could do a series where you research the references that the moves have It would probably be pretty popular too

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to. Honestly I have a plan for content I want to do but if this is something people want enough of then I can try. Just don't have a ton of free time haha.

I have not enjoyed a video game at the level that I enjoy MutliVersus in a long time. These Developers really knocked it our of the park and I hope that is game wins an award for 2022 because it really deserves one.

multiversus really makes you FEEL like lebron james

@exzyyd392

Жыл бұрын

The way he aerial side specials is full of the exaggerated swagger of a middle aged black man

PLEASE make a video about each character's move references, I would watch the hell out of that!!

Characters and voice actors: Mickey Mouse- Bret iwan Daisy Duck (Tress Macneille) Donald Duck Tony Anselmo Bill Farmer Goofy Horace Pluto Jim Cummings Pete Bowser Eggman Winnie Pooh Tigger Scar Ed Kaa Hathi Louie Flunkey Tantor Bluto Coming soon

Got yourself a sub. Love these videos detailing the immense amount of work that goes into making these characters click and look good doing what they do

I hadn't even noticed the Dark Knight Returns reference. That's cool.

Arya’s face steal and “Arya’s Pie” attacks are two examples of direct references to the source material in her move set

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Yes this is true but they both seemed too obvious to dedicate time to. Though I still should have mentioned it. Lol

@grgds

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost ah, gotcha. Yeah, I was just replying to about 4:08 where you said you had a hard time finding direct references within her attacks.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Totally makes sense. I was more referring to like her direct animations. Like her general sword attacks and stuff. I'm pretty confident some of her moves are directly pulled from Syrio Forel and their sequences together. Otherwise, most of Arya's scenes from the show are pretty one and done. Though I was going to reference the scene where I believe she got her first kill. Stabbing Needle through that guy's neck that murdered her friend. Because she kills 2 or 3 guys in that scene while they're all distracted by The Hound. And this could be used to draw parallels between how you should be trying to play her in 2v2's. Letting the teammate take the lead. But that also seemed like an unnecessary inclusion.

@grgds

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost honestly great insight! Yeah I totally get where you’re coming from.

Lets go spada! Glad this came out. Probably my favorite mvs watch so far. Wish my videos were this clean, also AYRA BROSSSSSS

Iron Giant arguably has my favorite references in the game because 90% of his attacks and animations are direct references to the film. Also, since you mentioned animation techniques of squash & stretch as well smear frames, you should totally check out the animation of Dragon FighterZ and Guilty Gear Xrd / Strive, because not only the animators employ those techniques MASTERFULLY, but also they created a celshading to replicate the anime style so well it looks like 2D.

"Hand me down... the shark repellent spray" Also thanks for the references

I can't wait to hear Rick's voice lines

Just wanted to point out that most old school animation was actually produced for theatres to be played before movies not television, the reason 24 frames is the standard is simply that drawing 12 frames and showing each frame twice before showing the next produced a fluid effect without unnecessary work load

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I should have added the theater bit. That's why I referred to them as shorts because they were short cartoons that were the lead in for the feature presentation. It's also why the intro is formated the way it is on old cartoons. 24 frames is still the rate at which projection units ran at. As far as I remember. It might have actually been 23.99 or something. I forgot, I learned this in film class in 2008 and I've had kids since then... memories f'ed. But yeah thanks for pointing this out. I probably should have handled that portion differently.

Would absolutely love seeing more of this, I could eat up these kinds of videos all day.

I just wanna talk about something here Well 2 things really, one is that Smash will probably never have this level of references like MVS does Second, they went so into detail with their movesets that they even went back to the first ever episode of Rick and Morty for 2 moves, Rick's up air and wall cling both referencing the Mega Seeds and the anti gravity shoes. And those are just 2 moves from Rick's kit

had to rewind at 8:33 because i was distracted by the 0% looking like a minion

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

😭

Excellent video. Very informative and well researched. Keep 'em coming!

This game is way better animated and much more creative than NASB where every character and their moves feel pretty similar and the only real difference is in their specials.

Great info alot of references I didn't notice also the Finn leg thing I would have NEVER caught that good video 😎

fantastic breakdown! Thank you ♥

Thank you so much for this video. This was very interesting to me to learn about and appreciate you taking the time to make it

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

great video very well edited keep it up man you got my sub!!

The work and effort you put into this is legendary, and it definitely shows. Thank you very much for this. Truly great work sir! This game is amazing! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

The character dialogue is so funny I swear

this video explains so much of what i love of this game (both as a fan of many of these franchises and as an animation student) as opposed to videogamedunkey's horrendously blatantly biased and irrational bashing of this game

Great video!!!

Tom's legendary screams on his ring out is just amazing

Fantastic stuff Spada

This game is great for sure hopefully they can keep up the quality as they add more characters. Which I do think they need to do soon and regularly.

really high quality video, awesome vid bro

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Wow this was a fantastic video. I’m a Batman main and I really appreciate PFGs attention to detail and thoughtful decisions when it comes to the characters. Batman lacking kill potential because of his “no killing rule” is a perfect way to balance his combo strength in a way that’s faithful to his character.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@geometricchump509

Жыл бұрын

If your having trouble getting the stock as Batman try using his up specials when the enemy is a 110 or above especially in the air. Batman kill options are mostly vertical. I believe the have him listed as vertical fighter in the character select screen for that reason

Thanks a ton Lost Tangent Outpost!

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Nah! Thank YOU!

Great video. I'm new around here but I can't wait to see more

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

Yurdddd I subbed

Superman looks like he has a genetic disease that slows down his ability to learn.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

This is a hysterical take lol

this was fire 🔥

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton!

I want to agree on what you said about the road to victory being closely linked to the character's authenticity and style...and then there are Finn and Superman players. Finn players are spammy, cocky, and generally unpleasant. Supermen are usually cowardly and spend most of the match floating looking for an easy grab and throw off the stage. Inversely, when I find dedicated Reindog or Wonderwoman players they are generally altrusitic, patient, and good to have on your team.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

I did mean how they feel to play as, not necessarily against. That said, you can't stop people being unfun to play against. Also your description of how it feels to play against Finn is kinda funny since at higher levels, they feel like foolish jumping beans that are hard to catch. Which feels a lot like him in the show. Lol

@GiggaGMikeE

Жыл бұрын

From the pov of an adult, that's basically Finns personality. For a cynic, Superman is as well lol

Love the vid, one note on a technical level though, audio’s a little on the quiet side. Had turn it up higher than most vids I watch on headphones

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Yeah :( I'll make sure to pay closer attention next time.

ur so right man imma go play rn

Yes

Spada please come back

Aryas pie though💀

1 critique though. The sound is very quiet. I like videos to be loud so I can hear and I can turn them down myself if necessary.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's been mentioned in the comments. My apologies. Trying to do better about that.

epic video!

Why is the volume of this KZread video is low because I have to turn my volume up even higher.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Just a mistake on my part. I'll be taking steps to prevent this further happening.

Idk what to do but the highest damage badge only says 499 even tho I have a screen shot of it saying I got 500

I came from twitter

Also everyone peep this clip at 15:10 OMG

Very good video.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Damn, yo. Thanks a ton! Means a lot!

Idk why you think ur bad, judging by your gameplay ur pretty good especially with batman, piece of advice with him tho, u can do the first 2 hits of the ground combo use your batarang to reset the attack string then dodge into the enemy then do the attack string again for some good damage

100% agree

They missed the mark on the "feel like the character" with Shaggy, he's got his attitude and moves more from the meme than the actual shows, up to the point where I find him obnoxious. I never loved Scooby-Doo as a franchise, but I had never felt disgust from their characters like with this Shaggy. The game is very polished for a big project like that, but not to the extent Smash or other AAA games have us accustomed. Still a really good game, of course.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Well to your second point, this is a much smaller team than the team that make AAA games or even Smash. As in, I believe the team at PFG is less than 25 people. Whereas Sakurai had all of Bandai Namco at his disposal, and as I understand it, specifically Harada's team, to help with Sm4sh and Ultimate. So you're talking apples and oranges, not to mention all the new mechanics and structures they're building the characters around in this game. It's got aspects of Platform fighters, traditional anime fighters and MOBAs (with the cooldown/buff/debuff systems). I think there's some empathy to be spared for what they've accomplished with such a small team. To your first point, I think it was made pretty straightforwardly clear that they were aiming for Meme Shaggy over Scooby-Doo (the show) Shaggy. That said, his dodge, his idle pose and many of his lines are authentically pulled directly from the show. Sure they embellished on some attacks to help flesh him out as a platform fighter, but all the stuff we see seems pretty reasonable given the combination of influences.

@Gacu001

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost I literally wrote: "The game is *very polished* for a big project like that… Still a *really good game* , of course", so there's my spare empathy. Not to mention I'm actually playing the game a lot, after years of Smash down to a burnout, it's really "a breath of fresh air" that I'm enjoying. About Shaggy, then everyone out of the loop on public announcements will feel as confused or alienated as me; and personally, no matter the reasons, I will still dislike MultiVersus' Shaggy lol. There are bits here and there in presentation, gameplay and feel that are wonky, cheap; but I'm ok with all that not only because it's an overall good game, but because it's still in beta. I'm hoping this game gets massive, and support can get us the diamond this gem has the potential for 🤞

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

@@Gacu001 you did say its very polished. But then you compared it to AAA games and Smash. Lol. Which just isn't a feasible comparison. Which is my only point. Not meant to be an argument just presenting thoughts on what you said. Yeah I think the more time it has to build up a fan base and the amount of money they must be making from the huge success it's had so far on steam, epic and consoles. This should put them in a position to make the team larger and increase the production value.

@Gacu001

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost the way I see it, there's no reason not to "aim for the stars" lol. No matter what, platform fighters will always have the bar set by Smash, that's the competition you decide to get in when making a game of the genre, be it a one or a thousand people development team; this is a product after all, and many people will be turned away when they know they have a "higher quality option". I repeat: I like the game and agree presentation is great, given the context; I'm hoping it gets even better!

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Sorry if I came across argumentative. I just felt it worth replying is all.

no shott you look at Taz and you're liek "yeah that's a great referential characters moves and styles and everything" insane take

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Taz's moveset is remarkably filled with references. I'm confused by your comment. What's the criticism?

@nuibaba280

Жыл бұрын

???

@exzyyd392

Жыл бұрын

Taz is most known for eating everything and spinning, the things he does

Cool stuff in general, yeah. Love the banter and great animation. My gripes: Reindog... looks weird. Like he's unfinished. Especially his eyes. Arya looks far off from how she looks in the show. 12:32 I'd argue it isn't. This turns heavies like Bowser into useless characters for anything but memeing, challenge runs, and hyper casual play. All that potential damage they can deal won't matter if they can't deliver it and being able to take more damage won't matter if they'll keep losing trades... they'll eventually lose, no matter their durability. Meanwhile, Fox is the opposite. He doesn't hurt a lot but he's consistent and can be persistent. This is a "a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush" kind of deal. As for the video, the audio levels were too low. I had to double my usual volume level for things to become audible.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the input. I'll have to check the audio levels going forward. I may have favored audio isolated earphones since I edited it with noise canceling over-ear headphones on. I also may have turned it down at some point in the editing process and forgotten to turn it up. Thanks again. On your other points I disagree but it's not worth a debate lol. Reasonable people can disagree.

@HighLanderPonyYT

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost Aight cool, yw!

@thexp905

Жыл бұрын

@@HighLanderPonyYT What do you mean? Bowser is actually a great example, as he is probably the best heavy in Ultimate. Fast, big damage, and high knockback with a high weight for survival. With his issues being range, lack of follow-ups, and one of the more gimpable recoveries. Sure, a good Fox outclasses him 10-fold, but he's still one of the best characters in the game.

I think the problem is that this game is about multiple universes in each universe these characters have unique style to their design by stylizing them they lose that uniqueness I get why they did it but it just lose that something special that all these characters have.

B-BUT MY FAVORITE KZreadR SAID IS BAD BECauSE IT WAS NOT MADE BY NINTENDO!

@marin9412

Жыл бұрын

Who tf said that?

except lebron james inst even vocied by lebron james. I do love the game tho.

I don’t really agree. To make a good characters, you don’t only have to have references to the source material. This is a game, the gameplay matters. Are they fun to play? Do the moves synergies with each other without any overshadowing another one? Are they able to use their full moveset? Are they distinct enough to the rest of the cast? There are many other questions that make a character actually well designed. Of course giving them a great aesthetic design or, making the character themselves and their personalities great or making them fateful to the og character in the case of smash, multiversus or guest characters and making their gameplay fit their personality is also a part of good game design but there’s not only that.

@LostTangentOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Did you finish the video? If you did and you still felt the need to say all this, then I've got nothing to really say. I explicitly talk about how the gameplay feels for the characters and how they all feel unique and authentic to themselves in gameplay.

@marin9412

Жыл бұрын

@@LostTangentOutpost I'm not really talking about that. I literally said "making their gameplay fit their personality is also a part of good game design but there’s not only that". I'm just saying that gameplayitself apart from the personality is important.

Great video!