0:15:35 PSI 14-M Broadcast Demo (Sharpness) 0:17:45 PSI comments 0:19:42 PSI Demo (Vocal) 0:21:45 PSI comments 0:23:45 PSI Demo (Royal) 0:25:14 PSI comments 0:26:07 PSI measurements 0:28:57 Passive v.s. active systems 0:31:27 HS8 Introduction 0:33:33 HS8 Demo (Piano) 0:36:25 HS8 comments 0:39:54 Question about Tidal 0:42:57 HS8 Demo (Royal) 0:45:07 HS8 comments 0:46:00 HS8 v.s. PSI size 0:47:23 HS8 Demo (Vocal) 0:49:37 HS8 Demo end 0:50:07 HS8 measurements 0:52:52 End of measurements 0:53:42 Behringer Truth B2031 introduction 0:56:06 Behringer Demo (Vocal) 0:58:33 Behringer comments 1:00:55 Behringer Demo (Royal) 1:02:55 Behringer comments 1:04:07 Behringer Demo (Piano) 1:05:53 Behringer Demo (Cha Cha) 1:07:45 Behringer comments 1:09:40 Behringer measurements 1:12:45 HEDD introduction 1:15:43 HEDD Demo (Piano) 1:18:30 HEDD comments 1:20:17 HEDD Demo (History) 1:22:08 HEDD comments 1:22:30 HEDD Demo (Vocal) 1:24:37 HEDD comments 1:24:50 HEDD Demo (Royal) 1:26:45 HEDD comments 1:29:59 The Germans are in the house 1:30:37 HEDD measurements 1:33:53 Rogers LS35A comment 1:34:30 Studio v.s. Home speakers 1:38:18 Final comments on consumer vs producer speakers 1:39:10 Neumann KH120 introduction 1:39:54 (Headphone warning) Neumann Demo (Piano) 1:42:44 Neumann comments 1:45:05 Neumann Demo (Vocal) 1:47:10 Neumann Demo (Nemesis) 1:49:00 Neumann comments 1:50:26 Neumann Demo (Royal) 1:52:40 Neumann comments 1:53:27 Neumann measurements 1:57:08 Conclusions 1:57:30 Top 5

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@eliaszeghen765

3 жыл бұрын

Wich one you choose between heed and the psi?

@tonsingmuan

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio after watching this video Im more confused what to buy or what is most useful for home listening, as per the price hs8 is less to neumann but performance is more higher than neumann. What is the secret of neumann as double the price to hs8. My purpose is home listening. Need your advice

@elfishpresleybarbiebreath1116

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonsingmuan if you own a set of HS8 and you're looking to justify buying them, then it is now. They are fun to listen to, to mix on, to use as reference. Maybe they're not so precise, but it all depends on the listener... I love playing Hans Zimmer on the HS8.

@RadekPilich

2 жыл бұрын

KZread should channel a portion of ad revenue to the best commenters. Thank you for this!

oh wow! those HEDD Type 07 sound great! tight, solid lows while keeping clarity in the low-mids to mids (incl vocal range), the highs are not 'distracting' , they seem very detailed and resolving

A really interesting test, thanks a lot for doing this. Considering the performance and my budget, I'm going to go with the Neumann speakers. It's great to know that they perform well, your test gives me confidence in that! :) Thanks, guys!

I thinks PSI got such an unique so natural, analog while detailed and pleasant sound, despite their size.. really classy

This demo session is super useful, especially during times of home reclusion... It gives me a good idea of the sound of these monitors. I'm particularly interested on PSI monitors at the moment. Thank you for this streaming session!

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

This is the video to listen to the Behringer 2031A for referencing. I'm impressed by them! As a hobby I make and mix my own music and I believe pairing these with something more mid focused monitors one can really create well translating mixes. Thank you for this video!

You provide uncommon and valuable insight! Thank you so much...

what an excellent setup and review! Fantastic! Please keep it coming.

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I'll never never forget the 2031A. My first monitors. There was something about them. If you run them too loud, you can start hearing the cabinet but they didn't distort. It performed flawlessly at low levels. And those beryllium tweeters if I remember well the made a lot of sense.

Entertaining and interesting stream again guys. Thumbs Up.

Thank you for this helpful discussion! Also nice to see your body moving or not.

Great show guy's!

Would be great to see a video with Neumanns MA1 (+ Subwoofer Usage) against maybe Genelecs GLM or an complete Neumann 120 vs 150 vs 310 vs 420 :-). Neumanns are so clear and pleasant to listen to. Started many Years ago with the 310, after that the 120 and now i'm ,,arrived,, with the KH750 (soon 2nd one) + KH150 and MA1 DSP Correction. Theyre crystal clear and analytic but also very fun and you get an Fullrange Sound with these combo. Btw i think the KH120 + 750 would be for most people such an great package - small, powerfull & fun

Bedankt heren voor deze geweldige sessie. Mede dankzij jullie reactie heb ik vorige week de HEDD Type 07 MKII aangeschaft. Jemig, wat een sound. Zo helder en zo veel details. Ook het laag is lekker strak. Iemand nog interesse in mn vorige speakers? ;-) Yamaha HS8

for the Yamaha, replace the op-amps and all the caps on the input board and the supply, change the VRs, disable the limiter and you will be surprised... i have the HEDD Type20 but I still use the Yamaha's for checking bright elements and stereo image in the mix. There are some pre-modded around to buy..ZenMods as an example... you should really do the check :-)

Thanks guys, this has really helped me decide to go for Hedd. Upgrading from a very very tired and decrepit set of Spirit Absolute 2's so the difference should be night and day for my recording studio.

@TheAlphaAudio

Жыл бұрын

Glad we could help!

@Ian-gw2vx

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio Just a quick question, do you still think the Hedds are still a good price for what you get almost 3 years on ?

@TheAlphaAudio

Жыл бұрын

@@Ian-gw2vx yes

@Ian-gw2vx

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio Ok, they seem very good. Unfortunately I have since read a few posts concerning their failing after so long. Light coming on but no longer any sound. There does seem to be a real technical issue with some Hedd Monitors which makes me nervous pulling the trigger with such a lot of money.

@TheAlphaAudio

Жыл бұрын

@@Ian-gw2vx send an email to Hedd...maybe they found a solution?

I've heard the HS-8 against the HS-7 and the 8 is my preference as they offer greater bass extension and are an inexpensive way to get into monitoring if you have a microphone and you're willing to EQ to correct for the slight bass gain and upper treble bump. Any speaker with an 8" woofer will work best in either a well-damped room or an absolutely massive one. Same issue with the Behringer. I thought the Behringer sounded quite nice and relaxed, but it was somehow even further from being monitor-ready than the HS-8. The Hedd seem to be carrying a bit of extra energy in the treble region but they do sound quite excellent, right up until the cymbal crash with it's funky decay. Initial crash was beautiful, crisp and clean, but the decay just didn't sound right at all. Honestly, all of these sound quite good, particularly the Behringer at their price point. The Hedd do definitely sound dynamic, but their decay on certain instrumentation seems off, a bit too long and shimmery, which is unfortunately common with AMT tweeters. I think the only AMT tweeters I've heard that didn't exhibit this were the ones that GoldenEar designed. I do have to give them credit for inadvertently designing a monitor that serves better as a standard bookshelf speaker. It's got some midbass gain, a bit of treble gain and it sounds dynamic, but I feel you would struggle to monitor on them accurately. Not to discredit them, they're nice speakers and if you like the AMT sound then you'll like them. They've got a good woofer and a pretty good AMT. The Neumann, I think, in a damped listening environment, might be one of my favorites of this comparison. It's got good imaging, detail, and a surprising amount of bass extension without having massive apparent gain tuned in. The decay in the bass and mids are very natural but seems slightly fast in the treble. The vocal track sounded the most natural on the Neumann, with just the right amount of balance between the female and male vocal presentation without seeming to shift her voice up half a register. Definitely the most neutral of the ones that have a good amount of dynamism despite their neutrality. Once again another monitor that could totally work just as a standard bookshelf. Lovely little speaker. I will say, regarding very analytical speakers, the KEF iQ90, for consumer towers, are quite analytical. Their tweeter is incredibly fast, almost at the level of an AMT, so they pull details out like crazy and the woofers are also quick on the impulse, which makes them a pain in the ass to try to pair with a subwoofer. I still haven't found them fatiguing to listen to due to their detail. Just have to be careful what source I run them off to make sure it doesn't have a V or U shaped house tuning because it'll come right through and be super apparent.

And remember these HEDD’s are the MK1 not the MK2, which may make them sing another tune regarding the comparison to their much loved PSI, now the HEDD Type 07 MKII has DSP, also give the option to be Ported or Enclosed or sealed

Would be very interesting to do this test in a double blind fashion (behind an acoustically transparent curtain, for example. Thanks for the measurements, really interesting stuff. Which software do you use?

Listening to everything on my KRK Rokit5 G4's. :) I'll just comment on the Bach track because I love this Jazz arrangement so much!!! The Yamaha sounded very close to what I have on my CD, while the HEDD comes as a very close second. I loved them both, but especially the HEDD for the bass. Third place is Neumann, while the Behringer is worst of all. :)

Awesome comparison! On my end...via Sennheiser HD 650, most detail is revealed with Neumann KH 120 ($749 ea. or $1,498 pair @ Vintage King or Sweetwater), including most audibility and clarity regarding spectral components, tonality, timbre, sound field placement and motion, reverb tails and even subtle nuances of instruments, instrumental performances, vocals and vocal performances. The ruler-flat response graph is no surprise. There is sufficient bass there...and very usable, yet it is not quite as apparent or accurate as the amazing HEDD Type 07, which is also reflected by the distortion graphs. A KH 750 (10" sub with DSP...; $1,695.00 @ Vintage King or Sweetwater) could be added to fill out the bass down to 20 Hz (crossover @ 80 Hz; bandwidth ~= 20-300 Hz), including DSP alignment with the 120s--which would relieve the 120s of the distortion zone lows. Also, quality headphones could aid bass/lows choices. For very critical listening while tracking and mixing, and for small footprint and portability..., I prefer the Neumann. The HEDD Type 07 price at Vintage King is $1,299.00 each, which is $2,598 per pair. The KH 120s are about $1,100.00 less than a pair of HEDD Type 07s--which makes them a very good option and bang for buck deal for an excellent tool. Thank you for such an awesome comparison.

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Very Nice review, this is the best benchmark in youtube, sound is so good. Hedd and Neumann are very interesting. I listen again by equalizing all the levels of each speaker. Hedd looks boomy. (this is the mk1 version?) Yamaha are unbeatable for their price. Neumann more analitic.

Neumann clear winner despite bad volume level. I need to hear new KH150 DSP. They will be fantastic.

@ TheAlphaAudio - very good comparison, appritiate your effort you put into this stream. Question: Do you think the Sonnet Morpheus Pre/DAC is a good match with the active Hedd 07? Or is it overkill for the quality of the Heed speakers? Any other less costly recommendation for Pre/DAC to fit with the Heed07? Thx

@TheAlphaAudio

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The Hedd is very revealing. So it needs a clean input. The Morpheus is absolutely stunning. It is upper League. But it will work. Something less expensive also ;-). Think of a mytek or Benchmark Dac3

This is awsome! More reviews of Studio Monitors please! Cheers!

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Will do!

@leandrosilva6414

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio I was about to buy the HEDD type 07 monitors and stumble on this Video. Very helpful and gave me the final push to buy them! I hope i like them as you like. It will be mainly for mixing/mastering so i think it will be a good all around choice.. Thanks!

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@leandrosilva6414 good choice!

Thanks for this nice and interesting comparison. I would like some advice from TheAlphaAudio reviewers: in an active speaker like Neumann KH120 or Hedd 07 a good pre / dac that is also equipped with MM phono input as well as balanced outputs. The price around 1000 euros. Thank you.

I'm an avid HEDD user and have extensively listenend to both the Type 05 & 07 on their own, and with a range of capable active subwoofers. They have the same AMT-driver (also in the Type 20, 30 and Tower Mains) with a crossover point of 2.3kHz, so you can experiment and build a €2-3000 full range system that competes with the very best in their price range and above. The mid/bass driver on the Type 07 is plenty fast, but the smaller Type 05 edges it for midrange detail IMO. Obviously even more noticeable when adding a subwoofer. I used Mogami 2549 and Oyaide 102 SSC based XLR cables and found them both to be great options which won't break the bank.

@marvinhagen

4 жыл бұрын

So if you would buy a set HEDD's in combination with a subwoofer, would you buy the 5 or 7?

@tremot7143

4 жыл бұрын

@@marvinhagen Your individual use case dictates wether you should buy the 05 or 07, not the use with a subwoofer. You're adding complexity to your system and it can do more harm than good to the sound quality. In my experience the 07 doesn't benefit from a subwoofer that much, maybe at extreme levels but I haven't tested this. It goes plenty low (38Hz) with great speed and impact, so you will have a hard time taming the bass in your room even without one. The 07 is more versatile than the 05 because it has double the amplification power. It's a much bigger speaker and sounds like it too. Ideal as a nearfield monitor, but it can just as easily fill a decent size room if you should set it up as a traditional HiFi speaker. I would only suggest buying the 05 as a nearfield monitor and/or if you have a small room for listening at moderate levels. It delivers impressive bass for its size and does really benefit from a good subwoofer to fill out the low end, but I can tell you it takes a while getting it to sound just right.

@marvinhagen

4 жыл бұрын

tremot thank you so much for the fast response, and your advice. So the money I will save from buying a subwoofer goes to a better dac.

@tremot7143

4 жыл бұрын

@@marvinhagen You're welcome! And with that money can buy some amazing DACs right now. Just make sure it has balanced outputs to get the best performance!

@marvinhagen

4 жыл бұрын

tremot I was thinking about the RME ADI-2 fs. Any opinion from your side?

I would like to see a thorough test of the HS8...

Nice job. Good comparison, great analysis of studio versus consumer speakers. Studio needs a door/window isolation solution as almost entire video had engine, landmower, generator or such as backing ambient noise effect. Hahaha that was you. Nice record as present also. Alright Im editing here, you had the luck of having street being redone by bulldozers on same day. That or music studio is near a mine.

@TheAlphaAudio

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! We had the studio isolated about 2 years ago. No more road noise.

Thank you, that was very informative. I would have loved to hear a sample of the Focal Solo6 monitors to compare with the Hedd Type 7. If anyone has experienced listening to both of them, feel free to share your thoughts.

focal alpha?

can you get a pair of barefoot sound minimain12 please?

Very nice please review psi a17m you will blown away you may sell your hi Fi system..

Hi guys. I am looking for some new studio monitors for mixing/mastering for trance music. I've tried the HEDD Type 07 MK2's and Adam Audio A7X's in store, unfortunately I could not compare them at the same time, since I've tested each monitor in a different store (and not in the ideal setting). I really liked the A7X's, but they might lack a little bit in the low frequency range. Also, they came out over 10 years ago and I am not sure if they will hold up for another decade. I am really looking for a long time investment here. From what I've heard, the HEDD Type 07 MK2 do perform better in the low frequency range, but the A7X's might translate better? What do you think is a better studio monitor? I've also heard that the new Focal Alpha Evo (65) line is a great alternative as well (and they are much cheaper). But I haven't got the opportunity yet to test them out in store. What would be the better purchase here? Please enlighten me :)

@hermanachtig

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Omar, I tried both Type 07 MK2 and A7X in the same store and setting and as you said the HEDDs are hands down better in the low frequency range which left a very favorable first impression, especially with bass heavy electronic music. After an hour or two comparing on the widest range of genres I had on me (breakcore, tekno, hip hop, synth wave, jazz, classical) I ultimately opted for the A7Xs though because of fullness, clarity and precision on the mid and high frequencies which as it turned out I find more important (and you cannot upgrade with a sub). I later added an Adam Sub 12 to the setup and am really very happy with it - although I will be testing a pair of PSI A14-Ms later this afternoon ;)

Thanks for doing this comparison. I have Neumann KH120's here and they are great monitors. The frequency response is very flat and I find them to be very accurate monitors. I did notice that the volume was turned down and these were quieter than the Hedd and PSI? I liked the PSI but missed the low frequency extension of the KH120's Also, I really enjoyed listening to the Hedd Type 07 but these perhaps sounded a little hyped? The stereo imaging sounded very good though from this test.

Not about any of these speakers in particular, but what I think makes a good monitoring speaker is when the manufacturer doesn't try to get more extension out of the speakers than they have to give. I've heard some supposed studio monitors where they've used crossovers or DSP to try to EQ more bass extension out of their woofers and it inevitably results in compromised performance both for the bass extension as well as the mids. Yamaha's HS8 are the only one of these speakers that I've heard in person and they don't try for this. They roll off around 40Hz, which is where the speaker's resonant frequency is, and they don't try to use DSP or cabinet trickery to push any lower. Their response: Need bass? Buy a subwoofer. I respect that kind of mentality, particularly when you're dealing with 2-way speakers. You start making compromises with the driver that does bass and mids and you've ruined a speaker. You can afford to do so a bit more on 3-way systems because the mids will still be clean even if you're trying for a deeper bass dive on the woofer, but 3-way bookshelf speakers are significantly less common, which I feel is quite a shame.

You were talking about Grimm Audio LS1 at the end of this video, but after recently seeing (in your 2,5k amp review) the HEDD Tower Mains in the studio of Yung, I could't help but wonder how those towers (with only the bottom subs) would perform in a home setup (dedicated listening room) and how that would compare to systems like Grimm Audio and Kii Three (with sub modules), especially in terms of soundstage, dynamics and scale. It seems the HEDDs are more focussed on natural sound reproduction than other mastering monitors and without losing detail or becoming to detailed. Maybe Yung can do a more detailed review or demonstration of that system or comment on it an upcoming Q&A session, as he told it was the first in NL and he would be in a good position to compare it to more consumer focussed audio :)! In a video on youtube of Mr Heinz he explains how they aim to get a flat curve both in frequency response (20hz-50khz) as well as dynamics response on every frequency.

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@gerard - could you leave a note via www.alpha-audio.nl? That way we can contact directly. Thanks!

Can I get the relevant song lists which you used for testing of those speakers in this video? Thank you very much.

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

All songs are listed in the description.

@miekwavesoundlab

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio what is vocal artist in Joplin song at 48:00 it’s not in description

I always wondered if the type of monitors matters that much when you put a correction curve on your output. Like f.e. i run sonarworks sound id on my Yamaha HS8 and they sound 'clean' / neutral and flat in my room (mostly treated but improveable). Like how much difference is noticeable when i get let's say the Adam A7X and measure the speakers according to my room with sonarworks sound ID and get a flat response again. In both cases both monitors sound clean and flat in my room and therefore similar??? Maybe the same? So again my question is: do monitor types really matter when using them with response correction softwares? Does anybody know something i might miss here?

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

You can correct response. But there is way more than just response. Like the speed, phase, detail... etc.

i listened on my Adams so Neumans sounded most accurate on hight and midd and Hedd sonded best in low end range just my opinion. Yamaha has great middle but poor bass. In the end they all sound good just preferences you could mix on every one and learn them.

I did here the ports a bit on the HEDD

Very nice test!!! I'm considering buying new nearfields, PSI A17m is my top choice but these HEDDs sound so good! Did you measure their impulse response? @TheAlphaAudio what would you recommend - PSI or HEDD?

@connorduke4619

2 жыл бұрын

You could listen to the founder and chief designer of HEDD (previously chief designer of Adam) explain why his design is technologically superior to the rest of the market: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4lpxrmrlbPUmZc.html

@wdkbeats

2 жыл бұрын

@@connorduke4619 I did. I also had the Type 20 for a demo and didn't really like them.

@connorduke4619

2 жыл бұрын

@@wdkbeats Could you put a finger on why not?

@wdkbeats

2 жыл бұрын

@@connorduke4619 it came down to 1 thing - lack of transient detail. HEDD Type 20 sounded muffled in direct comparison to ATC SCM25A, EVE Audio SC3070, Ex Machina Pulsar and even JBL 305p(!)

@connorduke4619

2 жыл бұрын

@@wdkbeats That's interesting. Yours is the first negative comment I have heard about the HEDDs. Many other folk seem to regard them as the greatest things since sliced bread, inc. this sound engineer who talks about the 3D soundstage he gets from them despite placing them just 1m apart: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4dkysSFhrW9frQ.html

The problem with small 2 way studio monitors is that they only work best at 1 to 1.5m but you are looking for 2.5 to 3 meters for a Hi-Fi system. I had the kh120 and they did not work well at 2 meters and they are kind of compressed.

@Allosaurus-B

4 жыл бұрын

what do You mean by compressed if i may?

@vonjuergen

4 жыл бұрын

Uneasy presentation, lack of space between instruments, sounds stressed. It is trying too much for the size.

@cl2nden1st89

4 жыл бұрын

In the case of the KH120, I have to agree. I have tested them in several different rooms and prefer them NEAR FIELD.

@dirkbusche3410

4 жыл бұрын

Hello, very interesting comparison. Cause I own a Neumann KH 120A since 6 Years. KH 120 A for Home Audio? Well. But You have to choose the right Amp and a pair of good XLR-Cables. I use as PreAmp a McIntosh MHA 150, after I had a PassLabs Pre and a Nagra Melody before. The Pass was very good too, but a little bit too precise, too cool. The McInt brings more Coloration, a bit of warmness And now its perfect. You should use for the Neumanns and the Pre very good Powercables for best audioresults. I use Shunnyatas, Kondos and Tellurium. Not cheap, but with better sound than with standard Cables.

Is where any different between the hedd and the adams ax7 ?

@MattDxstined

3 жыл бұрын

hedd is much better

The Piano sounds realy great on the yamaha but the highes are very sharp on yamaha. At Yamaha i always have the feeling that they make their things for classic music. I have a yamaha AV 1080 and give it back cause only classic music sounds good on that. I change to AVpioneer 701. That make for me a more balanced sound.

Hi there. Very nice review. Enjoyed that a lot. There is a nice cover version of Mercedes Benz by Janis Joplin I guess starting at 0:19:53 which is not listed in the comment to this video. Does anybody know the interpret or where to get it? I love it. Thx.

@miekwavesoundlab

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I’m looking for that artist too 🎶

PSI Audio wins. Reasonably fast detailed and phase linear sound. But the price... HS8 got very good rough fast details too- for tracking. Maybe even more details noticeable. But it's too much rough and not smooth on top. Interested in KS Digital: C88 Reference and Coaxial. Thanks! PS And don't move a mic please. And what about Lineariser is it off?

hehe, watching, and listening to this on HEDD 7's. :)

@LilKiDSaint

4 жыл бұрын

what you think of them have you compared them to a7x?

@ibrahim47x

4 жыл бұрын

+1 Please let us know what you think of them, and whether you’ve compared them to A7X or Eve monitors

@supertomica1

4 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahim47x have not compared them with adam, but im impresed with the clarity and speed of the low end, the mid and high are very good and transparent. all and all, excelent NF monitors for the price, and when paierd with a good dac and some Shunyata venom series, canot complain.

@supertomica1

4 жыл бұрын

@@LilKiDSaint have not compared them to adams, but i have a pair od ATC-s SMC20-s and can say that the HEDD-s can stand with them very well. Did not regert geting them. :)

@Jim951cup

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Super happy with my HEDDs.

hey guys, great content! question: was that the Hedd Audio type 7 mk2 or the older one? I just bought the mk2 and I am really turned off by the self noise, besides the fact that it is a great sounding speaker.. but the hiss is hurting me in my soul..

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! This was the MK1. Is the hiss always present? Also without a source connected?

@lunao19

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio yes, unfortunately.. I contacted HEDD about it and they are aware of it, but basically told me to return them if I cannot work with them :/ now I gotta figure out what to do and see if the store would even do a refund.. if so I might have a look at Neumann 310a.. I need them as reference speakers in my studio..

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

@@lunao19 that is weird. The MK1 seemed silent.

@lunao19

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio I use them as nearfield monitors so I am within a 1m range

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

@@lunao19 yes. That is close. But they should be (near) silent.

Hello, and the Neumanns vs the Focal Sopras 1 ?

@TheAlphaAudio

4 ай бұрын

We haven't compared them directly...

Great test, and thank you for the discussion. I own a pair of Neumann KH120A's for home music listening. I cross them over digitally at 120 Hz to a stereo pair of subwoofers with a minidsp. The minidsp also applies room correction at the bass frequencies. This yields a pretty much neutral response between 20 Hz to 20 kHz. Although I enjoy this setup and I don't find the Neumann's fatiguing for long listening sessions, I agree with your assessment; these speakers are not for everyone. Even though the measured performance suggests completely uncolored response, in reality I find them slightly forward sounding. They can be ever so slightly attacking or 'in your face'. Depending on the recording, instead of making you want to enjoy the music, they make you want to change the tonal balance. This makes them a great mixing tool, and should not come as a surprise I suppose. At the same time, it is good to note they are designed to provide objective reference performance, and not to actively reveal issues in the recording. The measured response is ruler flat, thus not adding or subtracting anything. I would rather argue that musical/colored speakers are designed to actively hide flaws instead. The flip side is that the Neumann's offer amazing clarity and detail into the recording. Good recordings have a sense of realism that I have not heard elsewhere. Crap goes in, crap goes out; that's pretty much the deal here, and shouldn't a high end audio setup be able to reveal issues? The bottom line is that it is absolutely no problem to listen music on these speakers, whereas some studio monitors deliberately sound bad, but the Neumann's will not juice up the recording or make it more engaging. Personally, I am happy like this; I would not want to spend more money on objectively worse engineering. The measured response is top-notch including off-axis, their aluminium enclosure is build like a tank and mitigates any vibrations, and they play incredibly loud. I take the good with the bad. If you desire something that makes you forget about the equipment, and lets you focus more on the music, some slight additional warmth/colorization is highly desired instead. I would not recommend these speakers to everybody without reservations, but they can challenge consumer speakers for music listening depending on your personal tastes. Thanks again!

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. And thank you for sharing you experience. I totally agree!

@kamilkashaf2766

3 жыл бұрын

I have a pair of Neuman KH 80's and I am similarly looking to crossover at 100+ hz to take some work off from the tiny 4 inch drivers. Can you tell me more about you MiniDSP setup and what subs you recommend?

@mcmalden

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamilkashaf2766 I have a minidsp 2x4 HD. I use REW with a umik-1 for room correction: I flatten out the response below ~250 Hz. I own a pair of XTZ 12.17's. HSU uls-15's are probably my dream subs though.

@kamilkashaf2766

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmalden Thank you for your reply. I'm really broke at this point in my life and I can really only afford a single SVS SB1000 subwoofer. It seems to be the only subwoofer under $500 that measures somewhat decently. What's your thought on having a single subwoofer placed right between the speakers on the same horizontal plane as the drivers as opposed to having dual subs? Or would it become too directional once crossed over at a relatively high frequency such as 120 hz?

@kamilkashaf2766

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmalden Also what kind if crossover slope do you use? Is it 24 or 48db per octave Linkwitz Riley?

I actually want a neumann kh80 for mixing and mastering for my home studio playing synths and some vocals. If I need to double check bass I'll pull out some cans to save money lol. Do you guys think thats a smart move for 1k USD a pair?

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

The KH80 picks up at 60 / 70 Hz. I wouldn't mix bass on a speaker that doesn't go down to at least 30 Hz.

@donvittoriosierra

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio So for the money do you suggest something like the head? or just crossreference the bass with another set of speakers that I know and work on the mids and highs with the kh80

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@donvittoriosierra I would buy the Hedd. It's a great overall speaker.

@buildingsurveying

2 жыл бұрын

You

Pela faixa de preço o Behringer na verdade foi quem me surpreendeu

The other Adam descendant: Eve Audio SC207, tighter in sound then the HEDD 7's. Just listened to them both and they both blow away Adams, but Eve's are my favs.

@mohamedahmed1023

4 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. I have two pairs of EVE SC208. They perform like a dream.

Hedds or neumans. I can't make my mind up. Monitors can be close to me. Like less than a metre, or on stands around 1.5m

I'm thinking of selling my Kali LP6 for Hedd Type 05. Is there much of an improvement?

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

I dont know the Kali. So I can't say unfortunately.

@nickhyder9141

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio Do you think there's much of an improvement compared so say JBL 305p or the Yamaha's HS6s? I really want Type 20s but only found used Type 05s locally

@yunglie1445

Жыл бұрын

@@nickhyder9141 sorry for the late reply. JBL and Yamaha are very different speakers compared to HEDD. Not only the HEDD's AMT drover but also the filtering. If you want heavy bass, then JBL and Yamaha are your monitors. The HEDD's combine dynamics with neutrality but without the oomph that Yamaha (and I presume JBL) delivers. Let your ears do the talking and try it yourself.

For Hi fi it’s another ranking than for mixing. Or mastering

- BEST VIDEO ON MONITOR COMPARISON . But , Pls have got a question . - Some of the speakers have more lows /high /mid ,better than each other . Now let's try to compare without these frequency responses . Mean while The HEdd sounds more appealing and Exciting than The Neumann's and the PSI's . Why is it like that , Or is the HEdd over Exaggerating to gain our Favor ,or are these how the original songs sound like ? Do alpha Audio know what these songs sound like in real life ? Now pls Tell me which speakers speaks the truth About how the song " Royal ,Voice " originally sound like , Instead of which speakers is more preferred according to this Video . Can the HEdd detect crappy mix ? - Also Which one (PSI , HEdd , Neumann) would you recommend for mix/mastering Pls I'll appreciate your response . Thanks , I deeply appreciate .

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

We didn't only listen. We also measured all the speakers, so you know what the response is like. That way you can filter out the 'populair tuned' speakers. In our new live-tests we use live music - yes, actual live music - as a reference. We record one song and use it in the test.

Nadien bekeken, de neuman echt voor een studio, zeker niet voor thuis. Voor mocht ik weinig ruimte hebben thuis de Hedd is de winnaar.

Shame on you both for gushing over the Hedd monitors causing Heinz to raise the price for the MKII models. Just kidding! They are just what I'm looking for. A warm, musical monitor for my humble Hi Res addiction. Thanks for the informative review! Guessing your age I believe you're both in your early sixties and possibly able to live well into your early seventies!

Please unity audio mini rock mk3 vs psi audio ....

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

We will look into that! There will be a 'series-2'. So... :-)

Who cares if the Neumann sounds flat - that's why we have tone controls!

The inconsistency in playback material, poor staging, and room artifacts make for a less than accurate portrayal of all of the speakers. At the very least a 20/20K sweep should have been included. Fun to watch but I wouldn't take the results too seriously.

I'm unclear how you felt the PSI compared with the HEDD. You mention that there is nothing to compare with the HEDD under twice the price. Well, the PSI is twice the price. I am curious how those two in specific rate in your estimation.

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

PSI is more netural en quicker. HEDD is more compete and very nice to listen to.

@ibassnote

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio thank you for responding. I generally got that idea from watching your responses, the HEDD seemed to connect to you on a visceral level whereas the PSI were more cerebral. You were listening in a mid-field capacity whereas I will be at a desk no more than a meter away, in a small room. Perhaps your review is saying the HEDD is money better spent, but as a engineer, I feel the PSI might be the better mixing choice if one can afford it. Anyways, it was a very interesting video, thanks for posting. (ps. I lived in Haarlem for years, watching this made me long for kibbling met whiskysaus..."

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibassnote You are right. The PSI is more suited for 'pro-use', but the HEDD is just more 'fun' and has a better price/quality ratio. Kibbeling... yes... nice stuff! :-). Now I want some!

who better hedd 07 or kh120?

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

We record it, so you can decide yourself.

@max-pd3oo

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio the volume is different, nothing is clear

Yamaha sounds very natural. Yamaha speakers will sound what you input in them, the famous NS1000 is a great example of that. So it will basically reflect the source.

@48:00 artist singer, of cover song?

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

All songs are in the description.

@miekwavesoundlab

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio which one? None of those I checked out is the Janis cover song artist :( Thank you for replying 🙏

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@miekwavesoundlab I'm going to check it out. It is indeed not in the description

👌👌👍👍👍👍

and KRK?

@TheAlphaAudio

11 ай бұрын

Dont know.

The least expensive and most effective test that should have been undertaken before any of this equipment was set up, let alone critiqued, would have been to have taken an audiology test by a registered audiologist, especially for anyone 40 years old and over no matter how much experience, technical knowledge and/or money they have. Thank you.

Just got me Neumanns...it is like you commented...you hear everything...like a hi-end system...but flat...to get more you need to pay 3-5 times more

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy man!

@baspravisrbin

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio you mean enjoy (neu)man(n)

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@baspravisrbin haha... Yeah

@baspravisrbin

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlphaAudio on that note...I heard Grimm LS1 when they got like 10 years ago...among other (ATC PMC and other hi end electrostatics) costing many times more...LS was so much better that was ridiculous ... I can hear they still are...

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@baspravisrbin LS1be is the best speaker I know. It's very impressive.

NEUMANN KH 120

15:53 me with my friend fighting over the canter spot when listening to speakers

I don't know what is in this room but to me the HS8 is the nicest of all. I was disappointed with the HEDDs, they're somewhat dark to my ears.

"The LS3/5a is a copy of the BBC speaker." WHAT?!? It IS the BBC speaker! Produced by different contractors/licensees. One of the most famous speakers ever! How can you review studio monitors and not knowing it? Apart from that, very nice to compare loudspeakers like you did in this videostream. Keep up the good work but improve on your classics! And I would love to hear your opinion on (one or more of the) the orginal LS3/5a ('s) (or it's copies, like the Harbeth P3esr or the Chinese "Sound Artist" LS3/5a) and a compare with modern monitors in a future episode...

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I am sorry about the BBC monitor. We will get back on it. I am curious about them.

@driekberndsen1917

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks @@TheAlphaAudio for your reply. I am looking forward to your future listening tests!

hedd 1:15:50 1:25:20 kh120 1:40:10 1:52:05

@TheAlphaAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@once.81.music.official50

3 жыл бұрын

thx. I serch type 20 vs kh 310 comparission. Listen to this back nad forth and i sitll dont know wich is better . damn, both are very accurate. hedd`s more fun , neumann`s strictly to buisness...

@epsteinkrauss41

3 жыл бұрын

@@once.81.music.official50 atc scm25a , adam s2v check. Dealer said Neumann speaker build quality really good.

Sorry Hedd, PSI won my heart.

in this test Neumann sounds best , second place is Behringer , then Hedd and then rest ....

PSI win

You really missed out on not having Genelecs. Strange omission considering they are even more popular than cheapo copycat Behringer

@TheAlphaAudio

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost impossible to get a review sample here in the Netherlands.

The Neumanns are 'not dynamic', due to to the tweeter design and therefore can not be taken as reference. They post a beautified image that elevates the low level detail, hence lack dynamic range. Not a faithful or natural reproduction.

34:55 1:05:29 1:17:05

i saw this videa and i buy hedd 07 type 1.........hahahhaha!

A speaker costing 250 for a pair (it has gone up to 400 now but it is still a great buy) at the same panel as speakers costing multiple times more, shouldn't be that good. It should be total trash. But it's not. The results are pretty embarrassing for the rest of them. The Cinderella of powered studio monitors.

interesting test... sadly no genelic in the field ;) PSI is the most interesting one ... Neumann for me the most balanced one, but therefore a bit boring. HEDD is fun.