Mughal History, Gandhi's Hindu-Muslim Amity, Godhra Riots I What got cut & Why I Barkha Dutt

Media reports suggested that the NCERT has dropped chapters and topics related to ‘Kings and Chronicles: The Mughal courts’ from Class 12 history book ‘Themes of Indian History-Part II’ under its new rationalised syllabus for the academic session 2023-24.
After the National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) decision to reportedly drop parts on Mughal history sparked controversy, NCERT director Dinesh Prasad said the chapters on Mughals have not been dropped. “It's a lie. (Chapters on) Mughals have not been dropped. There was a rationalisation process last year because due to COVID, there was pressure on students everywhere”, he said.
Calling the debate unnecessary, the NCERT director said the expert committee recommended that if the chapter was dropped, it will not affect the knowledge of the children and an ‘unnecessary burden’ can be removed. “The debate is unnecessary," he added.
Meanwhile, many media reports suggested that the NCERT has also dropped parts related to RSS ban, attempts to assassinate Gandhi from its textbooks.
Barkha Dutt speaks to
Prof Ruchika Sharma | Historian
Mridula Mukherjee | Historian
PKD Nambiar | Political Analyst
Shantanu Gupta | Author
Lt Gen Zameer Uddin Shah | Former VC, AMU
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  • @jerry-ms1bz
    @jerry-ms1bz Жыл бұрын

    For a true muslim , the loyalty for religion trumps over his loyalty for motherland -- br ambedkar 💞

  • @MrSafwanmohd

    @MrSafwanmohd

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet it is the majority extremist that keeps parading his/her religion day in and day out as war cry "Dharam khatrey mein hai" 😂 Ambedkar has said a lot more about this majority insecurity card holder than any other community for he knows them as people with "hatred in their bellies".

  • @ppreshants

    @ppreshants

    Жыл бұрын

    Quite interesting quote, do you have a source for this one? I would like to read more

  • @jerry-ms1bz

    @jerry-ms1bz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ppreshants oh yes google views of ambedkar on muslims in his books you will find a whole bunch of quotes many more than this ,, otherwise you can read it from the book if you have time 😁

  • @deepasmitlenka7682

    @deepasmitlenka7682

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why indian muslims created Pakistan in 1947....😂😂😂.... This was the most unsecular thought u ever quoted of ambedhkar..... He has been criticised by many for this thought of his.... Although I and almost all indian consider him as our role model..... Ambedhkar ZINDABAD ❤❤ AMBEDHKAR

  • @Sam-81_98

    @Sam-81_98

    Жыл бұрын

    If Dr Ambedkar actually said this to which I have doubts then after all he was a human being too.. He can also be wrong. Besides how can one make a sweeping statement without any context

  • @loveearthly
    @loveearthly Жыл бұрын

    Teaching wrong history is worse than not teaching it. If Moplah Rebellion is taught, Gandhi’s role in the massacre should be taught, as well as the rise of Ataturk’s Islamist-free Turkey way back in 1920’s .

  • @gobhatia123

    @gobhatia123

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. That would bring down Gandhi from the pedestal he is on to someone who sowed the seeds of religion based partition.

  • @CRuS4D3R88

    @CRuS4D3R88

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@gobhatia123 gandhi did mistakes which cost us partition

  • @shellakapil5190
    @shellakapil5190 Жыл бұрын

    Why is barkha flashing pictures of mughals and not of cholas ??

  • @kamalmahra7348

    @kamalmahra7348

    Жыл бұрын

    because she love muslim mard 😊😊

  • @philippazhur8198

    @philippazhur8198

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@user-fp8xx7qf1w who r aryanns.

  • @loveearthly

    @loveearthly

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe she is spreading Islamophobia… or should I say it’s leading torchbearer.

  • @DeccanPS

    @DeccanPS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-fp8xx7qf1w 🤣nickelodeon

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-fp8xx7qf1w abdul

  • @gobhatia123
    @gobhatia123 Жыл бұрын

    I agree, they should include a chapter on the Sikh Gurus. How Guru Teg Bahadur ji was beheaded in Chandni Chowk in Delhi by the Mughals when he stood up against forced conversions of Hindus. This was preceded by killing of three of his devotees by burning them, boiling them and by sawing them to death before beheading Guru Teg Bahadur unless he would accept Islam.

  • @Abbyramrosy

    @Abbyramrosy

    Жыл бұрын

    His-Storian 😂😂😂

  • @jaydev7155

    @jaydev7155

    Жыл бұрын

    Khangress never taught correct history, I visited qutub minar and there was ruined temples in Qutab minar complex but not mentioned in history books but glorify Qutub minar as a Islamic architecture

  • @rosablanca646

    @rosablanca646

    Жыл бұрын

    Entire chapter dedicated to Bhakti Mivement

  • @umasharma5007

    @umasharma5007

    Жыл бұрын

    Have Sikhs learnt any lesson

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    digest this .................46'-47' election result -------mmossllim constituency ( Bombay province 100% vote goes to M.League , Madras Province 100% , Bengal 95% , Assam 91% , Orissa 100% , Central province 93% so on so on......)

  • @bharathiyandravidan-ie2sv
    @bharathiyandravidan-ie2sv Жыл бұрын

    We have been taught History with a clear Left and Islamic bias that has sapped the nation of its pride and self respect. Now if History is 'rationalised' and if that brings the nation's pride to the fore I will support that. Inaccurate History that injects pride to the nation is certainly preferable to an inaccurate History that has sapped the nation of its pride.

  • @DK-xb8ru
    @DK-xb8ru Жыл бұрын

    History about Maharaja Gulab Singh of J&K is yet to be found relevant for inclusion in textbooks, even though everyone from Kanyakumari to Arunachal to Kashmir to Gujarat knows about Pakistan's obsession with Kashmir and the central importance it has in our national perspective.

  • @niravbarot2522

    @niravbarot2522

    Жыл бұрын

    No audio after initial few minutes

  • @nirmalakrishna8046
    @nirmalakrishna8046 Жыл бұрын

    Abraham Lincoln was also assassinated but Americans don’t even bother ! Why should we give so much importance to Gandhi!

  • @vivek1raja

    @vivek1raja

    Жыл бұрын

    It is part of US history and taught, but we have nitwits like the governor of Florida, who deny slavery existed. Sanghis will of course want to devote history books to glorify Godse!

  • @nirmalakrishna8046

    @nirmalakrishna8046

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja what abt natives of America & Canada ? Mass graves of indigenous ppl were found which they never acknowledge! Godse was very passionate abt justice for Hindus ! He didn’t run away ,he faced the consequences unlike ur mogul relatives!

  • @abhikghosh6110
    @abhikghosh6110 Жыл бұрын

    Everyone wants their bit of history to be published in the books 😅

  • @shridharaithal1433
    @shridharaithal1433 Жыл бұрын

    Indian history as we studied in schools was all about barbaric invaders (all were and identified with either Islam or christianity which are both exclusive) as though there were no empires, kings in India before!

  • @Sam-81_98

    @Sam-81_98

    Жыл бұрын

    What an incorrect analysis..

  • @philippazhur8198

    @philippazhur8198

    Жыл бұрын

    Andh bakht Or braminism. Before Islam and Christianity how many women used to cover their breast.

  • @drsaithal

    @drsaithal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philippazhur8198 those ignorant who wear colored glass see the world in their own colour. No one can help them. You are one of them. God can't even help you.

  • @walan31

    @walan31

    Жыл бұрын

    You are so funny. No king ever rules without some high level of violence. Your problem is that ancient so called Indian civilisation have very few historically reliable or verified texts. If you can go back in time ask them to learn from the Ancient Egyptian, Greeks, Romans and Arabs to leave us detailed records of their existence and life style and write it on books or walls that can survive 1500 years of erosion.

  • @haryana_on_top_01

    @haryana_on_top_01

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@philippazhur8198any logic in your shit talk ? You are questioning the oldest civilization like this ?

  • @kunalk1313
    @kunalk1313 Жыл бұрын

    Why is Meenaxi jain, a well known historian, not here as a panelist since we have two historian from the other side of the debate?

  • @abhikghosh6110

    @abhikghosh6110

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe she was not available?

  • @gobhatia123

    @gobhatia123

    Жыл бұрын

    She is too right wing for Barkha. This panel is absolutely leftist heavy. From the right, there is only Shantanu. PKD, while I like him, he is not a historian.

  • @ganesharvind867
    @ganesharvind867 Жыл бұрын

    10000% correct. But we should not ignore the atrocities by mughals on hindus.othrerwise our children will forget it. History should not be denied. Taught in reality not the leftists history to please a perticular community.

  • @manormapunj8153
    @manormapunj8153 Жыл бұрын

    Welldone...Proud moment for us...God Bless You my baby 🙌 🧿 😇 ♥️ 😊

  • @DeccanPS
    @DeccanPS Жыл бұрын

    Ruchika should just focus on spreading fake information on her channel, rather than pushing it here.

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    i don't want my kids to learn history from her.

  • @binduchawla5156
    @binduchawla5156 Жыл бұрын

    Shivaji had/ has three lines he states yet others have 0 lines( therefore there have been highly educated historians who did not agree to teach history in post independent India -😢

  • @Dr_ARG
    @Dr_ARG Жыл бұрын

    Excellent debate Barkha ji 😊

  • @gobhatia123
    @gobhatia123 Жыл бұрын

    One chapter on Guru Gobind Singh. how his 4 sons were killed by Aurangzeb because they stood up against their oppression and forced conversion. Guru Gobind Singh ji's two younger sons were 9 and 7 years of age when they were bricked alive because they did not accept Islam on orders from Aurangzeb. Of course before this they had killed his 2 older sons who were 18 and 14 years. This is how Mughals ruled India.

  • @amit75737

    @amit75737

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@user-fp8xx7qf1w which killings. Please publish your source.

  • @ganesharvind867

    @ganesharvind867

    Жыл бұрын

    @Amit Chavan his source will be leftists.ramachndra guha, ram puniyani .l, burkha datt, sardesai, Irfan habeeb, there are lot of people create history for Indians.

  • @gobhatia123

    @gobhatia123

    Жыл бұрын

    The whole Aryan invasion and migration are both debunked. Stop perpetuating stupidity when those who started it have stopped. And if you are as crude as to compare violence of one community over another, fine. Please go ahead and include list of all countries where Hindus (jains, Buddhists or sikhs) went proselytizing.

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    digest this .................46'-47' election result -------mmossllim constituency ( Bombay province 100% vote goes to M.League , Madras Province 100% , Bengal 95% , Assam 91% , Orissa 100% , Central province 93% so on so on......)

  • @nirmalakrishna8046
    @nirmalakrishna8046 Жыл бұрын

    U expect this woman to tell emotional Hindu story!

  • @jagannathprasadbarik7872
    @jagannathprasadbarik78724 ай бұрын

    Dr. Ruchika sharma put the point in very scholarly point of view.

  • @rehaanrizwick
    @rehaanrizwick Жыл бұрын

    Which schools did these guess go to? I studied CBSE and we had a whole book just on South Indian kingdoms.

  • @ankurpurohit9926
    @ankurpurohit9926 Жыл бұрын

    Hindutva (particularly of today or post 2014) can be summarized by altering these lines of Atal ji- कुंठित तन मन, कुंठित जीवन रग-रग कुंठा इनका परिचय।

  • @RAMESH-js9lc
    @RAMESH-js9lc Жыл бұрын

    Khangress got History of its liking inserted in the books as ‘Indian History‘, and reaped political rewards for 65 years. First 4 union education ministers were muslim under khangress rule. Needless to say they did yeomen‘s work in raising education levels of the muslims.... Besides inserting their history as Indian History😜 So much for their inclusivity😊

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp
    @FirstLast-fj1yp Жыл бұрын

    Dr ruchika, why did ghazni came to india?

  • @shankariyer8378
    @shankariyer8378 Жыл бұрын

    The panel itself is skewed. It would have been great if atleast Vikram Sampath or Saideepak would have been brought in.

  • @periramana8556

    @periramana8556

    Жыл бұрын

    They are bulls in chain-a shop only spewing venom. And distorted thinking not retrograde studies .Aberration s can be corrected I

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    why those people will come to such a trash show.

  • @megda1000
    @megda1000 Жыл бұрын

    Muslim rule in India was our dark age

  • @ramanmattoo6596
    @ramanmattoo6596 Жыл бұрын

    Why only Gujarat post Godhra riots was taught in text books whereas genocide and ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandit’s was ignored and not taught in NCRT books by so called secular Khangress govt .

  • @rahulHumanist007
    @rahulHumanist007 Жыл бұрын

    Always Superb ❤️ 🥰 Wizard Of History #Ruchika mam ❤ #Eyeshadow 🥰🥰

  • @therealist7327
    @therealist7327 Жыл бұрын

    Actually NCERT should have not removed the chapters they should have added chapters depicting their barbaric deeds. And they should've not removed that gandhi was killed but why he was killed.

  • @sarthak1987
    @sarthak1987 Жыл бұрын

    Someone should remind the right-wing commentators that Savarkar also hailed the choice of Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar in the First War of Independence in 1857 when he wrote his book on the topic.

  • @sarthak1987

    @sarthak1987

    Жыл бұрын

    The idea is not to hail or hate a particular dynasty on the basis of prejudices, but to understand the contextual importance and the complexities of past and not discard the past with a lens borrowed from the present.

  • @CRuS4D3R88

    @CRuS4D3R88

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sarthak1987 Jews don't Co exist with or hail hitler, nazis. Same with hinduz and Mughals, Delhi sultanate kings

  • @rahuljadhav5599
    @rahuljadhav5599 Жыл бұрын

    Mughals just ruled a Part of India in North..so STOP this Mughal Empire....aurangzeb died penniless trying to fight the Marathas....game over...Mahatma Should also be removed now....😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hpremjit
    @hpremjit Жыл бұрын

    Good. Way to start. Detailed Mughal eras should be left for higher studies. At most a brief account of Mughal era is sufficient for upto class 12.

  • @steamuser1277
    @steamuser1277 Жыл бұрын

    Whatever I say has been proven beyond any doubt because i said so - Ruchika Sharma

  • @siddharthanvarier3342
    @siddharthanvarier3342 Жыл бұрын

    To my mind, the word"rationalisation" is used euphemistically, to defend the expunging of certain sections of Mughal history, ostensibly, since they have been repeated twice or whatever If what the unexpunged sections were true and duly referenced, their expungement does not change the events, or the course of history, whether about the Dark Ages or the Bright Ages. It is common truism that invaders came to plunder, desecrate and denude india's vast wealth resources and enslave indians No amount of rationalization of Mughal history could possibly change history, especially when there are other school subjects, far more daunting for students, than history

  • @AjeebDastaan2015

    @AjeebDastaan2015

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah one can expunge or rationalize NCERT History books till Standard 10 but it should be comprehensive for Classes 11 & 12 students to get a better perspective. In this regard I find the old NCERTs before 2002 to be better.

  • @indus7744
    @indus7744 Жыл бұрын

    Why does the panel discussing history include non-historians?

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp
    @FirstLast-fj1yp Жыл бұрын

    can you tell what facts were wrong in the added portions?

  • @periramana8556
    @periramana8556 Жыл бұрын

    I all fairness we are saying there is no narration about south dyanasties temples etc we are repeating have we made any attempt to make such history for youngsters .No lt all unknown soldiers of swaraj movement canbe brought to fore.criticism is better done than bringing authentic new narative

  • @shridharaithal1433
    @shridharaithal1433 Жыл бұрын

    Why so called mughal architecture is only in India and not in places from where they came from? Why there are no temples of great architecture like in south in north india?

  • @shellakapil5190
    @shellakapil5190 Жыл бұрын

    I ll barge into your house lieutenant and make your house mine U cant call me a looter.

  • @abhikghosh6110

    @abhikghosh6110

    Жыл бұрын

    Who the h... are you? Spamming the comments section

  • @shankariyer8378
    @shankariyer8378 Жыл бұрын

    While talking aboy MG’s assassination, where are the details of killings of Brahmins in Maharashtra?

  • @vivek1raja

    @vivek1raja

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh poor brahmins!

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja yep, sorry they came to your home and you were born.

  • @gauravghose3186
    @gauravghose3186 Жыл бұрын

    My board was ICSE and we studied cholas, vijaynagara, Marathas, sikh religious leaders, and Mughals as well. Not one page for one and 10 pages for others.

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

  • @mayank9638

    @mayank9638

    Жыл бұрын

    Kyun jhooth bol raha hai bhai? I have also studied from an ICSE Board school. There was nothing on Ahoms, Lachit, Lalitaditya, Mewar, Nayiki Devi, Martand Verma, Charak, Sushruta, Indian science and mathematics, etc. Cholas bhi kuch pages mein nimta diya tha bas formality ke liye. Whereas, in reality Cholas and Vijayanagar had far greater impact, even outside India esp. in South East Asia. Kyun be, "Wannabe Secular Chutiya" type wala l@udu hai kya tu?

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    what the heck is icse .... never heard of it i only know cbse

  • @philippazhur8198

    @philippazhur8198

    Жыл бұрын

    Indian certificate of secondary education (ICSE).

  • @ManpreetDhamiofficial

    @ManpreetDhamiofficial

    Жыл бұрын

    I also studied from icse. And I don't relate to you at all. Can you please share which year you studied or else please give the proofs.

  • @manishajmani5585
    @manishajmani5585 Жыл бұрын

    Debate is not balanced. It’s between subject matter experts (historians) & propagandist. Strange is the confidence of propagandist to challenge the Experts without any thorough knowledge on the topic.

  • @philippazhur8198
    @philippazhur8198 Жыл бұрын

    All those who ruled india till indias independence should be taught in schools.

  • @philippazhur8198
    @philippazhur8198 Жыл бұрын

    Taj mahal construction started in 2014 completed in 2023.

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    yep and then halala happened.

  • @dahirking
    @dahirking Жыл бұрын

    In debate anchor plays an important role, Barkha being left leaning and Muslim appeaser is making it baised.

  • @telugupadyalu...6927
    @telugupadyalu...6927 Жыл бұрын

    ncert books r north india centric..not even a pinch of south india is talked

  • @theblueplanet3576
    @theblueplanet3576 Жыл бұрын

    why was the mughal history given more space in text books in first place? Who was responsible years ago deciding on school curriculums? The right things are being done now. 👌

  • @samreads
    @samreads Жыл бұрын

    3:55 if mughal rule was not muslim rule, then why mughal mosques built on broken hindu temples considered muslim mosques that are to be protected by congress-era laws?

  • @poorvasharma8807
    @poorvasharma8807 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Barkha had called genuine and well read Right scholars like Vikram Sampat instead of a wanna historian who thinks he is one coz he has written a book on a CM

  • @makpk4616
    @makpk4616 Жыл бұрын

    The gentleman whose daughter studied in Richard Bourke of Mayo college in Ajmer is proud of Mayo they feel proud to be rajas, actually Ex. Are these same rulers who did not allow ladies to wear tops in their territories .

  • @binduchawla5156
    @binduchawla5156 Жыл бұрын

    History is already been eliminated for so many years - juxtapose myself a history person

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    behanchod they show akbar as prithiviraj kapoor or hrithik roshan all this bollywood fake story ..... akbar actually look like chinese...

  • @harnektl
    @harnektl Жыл бұрын

    Budha vihara’s were converted to Mandir by Brahmin and Bhudha marg idols renamed as shiva, Vishnu etc and a new brahmanical mythical religion was propagated….. History is bitter

  • @desigulal
    @desigulal Жыл бұрын

    "Mughals made indian their home" - zameruddin shah Oh thank you so much! - we are so blessed that some uzbek warlords decided to stayback in our country. I am sure the uzbeks would be super thrilled.

  • @nirmalakrishna8046
    @nirmalakrishna8046 Жыл бұрын

    Mridula reminds me of one character in Ramayana ! Enough of history of moguls ! Brits only teach their conquests!

  • @tahahamza9338
    @tahahamza9338 Жыл бұрын

    Ruchika Sharma is such a sane smart and sorted historian ❤

  • @jerry-ms1bz
    @jerry-ms1bz Жыл бұрын

    Aryan invasion theory Read the whole paper ,, according to it , dravidians have also migrated from zagros area near iran , before them Africans were living here who also migrated from africa ,,so how come davidians become the owners of india ???? btw the greatness of aryans lies in assimilating Ivc culture with theirs and starting the hindu religion . 💞

  • @ayusraksa5749
    @ayusraksa5749 Жыл бұрын

    Chase truth and people will chase you.

  • @periramana8556
    @periramana8556 Жыл бұрын

    Can we remove all the structures of Moghul period or British period remove. .shantanu is listening in bits

  • @abhikghosh6110

    @abhikghosh6110

    Жыл бұрын

    They are blind deaf n dumb

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    1000% agreement. babri masjid started, and now gyanwapi and slowly all the others will come one by one. gateway of india, that chhatree, taj mahal etc. etc. lal kila.

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    really don't have any attachment to any of there structure however iindians r not mmoslim so breaking structure without any valid reason sud be avoided .. take a radar penetrating instrument and see if the structure is built upon previous structure or not then do a small dig and if any temple evidence is found then bblow the struccture out of it's existence.

  • @periramana8556

    @periramana8556

    Жыл бұрын

    @@urrasscal8380 hello u are rascals so you are generous to verify before embarking on fine.God bless you

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@periramana8556 u have to verify & if u find any hhindu structure or evidence beneath it then blow the structure ... as iislamb is not an iindian thing & also iislamb says k$ll non-believer wherever u find them, so i have no attachment to this type of fforeign uncivilized idea .....

  • @gobhatia123
    @gobhatia123 Жыл бұрын

    when you have to talk about Godse, you want to color it religiously. when it comes to 30000 temple demolitions, you want to look at it from a non religious lens. great. you should really call out your own hypocrisy.

  • @rameshkidambi7831
    @rameshkidambi7831 Жыл бұрын

    History is based on facts..No right or left.We need to know the truth no matter what the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

  • @rc2k22
    @rc2k22 Жыл бұрын

    I want to see India becoming an Islamic India, so that the history of Hinduism will be studied in the school textbooks in the Islamic India in future, and most of the historians by then will have been presecuted and erased.

  • @suseeln
    @suseeln Жыл бұрын

    Feku Nambiar is all about my money, my daughter in Mayo. I am pretty sure he has not even donated 100 Rs and his daughter is studying in some 3td class college.

  • @mariyajafarey9148
    @mariyajafarey9148 Жыл бұрын

    If in todays day and age a Hindu takes pride what Modi did in Kashmir and Gujarat than we have a problem too.

  • @therealist7327
    @therealist7327 Жыл бұрын

    ABSOLUTE REPLY STARTS @46:20, Also Hindu Temples Volume1 & Volume 2. Barkha ji, bring Anand Ranganathan next time.

  • @rak366
    @rak366 Жыл бұрын

    Can understand the pain of bhurka dutt

  • @musafir123

    @musafir123

    Жыл бұрын

    Ab rajput log mama kisko bolenge

  • @rak366

    @rak366

    Жыл бұрын

    @@musafir123 Mohammad ne Ayesha ka rape kyun kiya?

  • @renukanwar2667
    @renukanwar2667 Жыл бұрын

    In lighter note ...Only senior school students should have detailed knowledge of history. ...Mughal or British ....younger children are allready loaded with long chapters on history ...poor things cram the answers understanding little....so streamline history chapters ....

  • @loneranger4469
    @loneranger4469 Жыл бұрын

    Deleting history in textbooks will not delete history. It will only make the children more ignorant.

  • @philippazhur8198

    @philippazhur8198

    Жыл бұрын

    That is the basic of hindurashtra.

  • @RaviKhatri0007

    @RaviKhatri0007

    Жыл бұрын

    पाकिस्तान बंगलदेश वाले पढ़ेंगे हम क्यो पढेंगे।

  • @philippazhur8198

    @philippazhur8198

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RaviKhatri0007 birayani Pakistan aur Bangladesh mae chawal machli milegae.

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    digest this .................46'-47' election result -------mmossllim constituency ( Bombay province 100% vote goes to M.League , Madras Province 100% , Bengal 95% , Assam 91% , Orissa 100% , Central province 93% so on so on......)

  • @DeccanPS
    @DeccanPS Жыл бұрын

    Barkha as usual brings in her Aryan Invasion trope, which has been debunked way back. But old habits die hard.

  • @vivek1raja

    @vivek1raja

    Жыл бұрын

    Achha! Debunked by who? Sanghis?

  • @DeccanPS

    @DeccanPS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja The Chamchas arrive😀

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja so for u AIT is fact i guess u also believe in flat earth and 9/ 11 is a yyehudi conspiracy right????

  • @drjimmyperth3911
    @drjimmyperth3911 Жыл бұрын

    what about USA or Canada or Australia? Are white colonise or settelrs? What happened to the natives of that area?

  • @sreed7274
    @sreed7274 Жыл бұрын

    To Barkha's question on how far back to go and north Indian may also be invaders - 1) Even if that were true that was over 5000 yrs back where evidence is bleak and the society has since been settled and in relative harmony and plural, 2) Mughals are recent invaders in civilization memory which committed worst atrocities, tried to erase this nation's culture and impose theirs. The more important thing is they still do not accept the wrongs, celebrate the invaders and continue to push their agenda. And the loyalty lies outside India. About question on loot, Britishers looted material wealth and Mughals by staying back looted something more precious that is the land with Pakistan and Bangladesh exclusively for themselves.

  • @Dankelkar
    @Dankelkar Жыл бұрын

    Mughals never considered themselves Indian. They identified themselves as Timurids from present day Uzbekistan.

  • @Raj-gt3fh
    @Raj-gt3fh Жыл бұрын

    The fact is, Politicians are trying to change History

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

  • @manjurangra56469
    @manjurangra56469 Жыл бұрын

    Why change history ??? All periods are important they are simply link ....& honestly.. for the present generation its just history nothing ..... !!! The mughals gave us some beautiful architecture are we going destroy ????

  • @rocketshoot3027
    @rocketshoot3027 Жыл бұрын

    Mughal e Azam, Taj Mahal movies were not divisive. Those movies were not ridiculing Hindus. But recent Indian historical movies ridicule, present Muslims as evil.

  • @deepakseth6256
    @deepakseth6256 Жыл бұрын

    No ruler was ever a saint. Overall the Mughal period was a period of peace and prosperity

  • @sarthak1987
    @sarthak1987 Жыл бұрын

    Professor Mridula Mukherjee's facial expressions while hearing the comments of Shantanu Gupta and PKD Nambiar, deserve a separate show of their own!! So Amusing, to say the least. Full Swag.

  • @saikatroy4

    @saikatroy4

    Жыл бұрын

    IKR!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jerry-ms1bz

    @jerry-ms1bz

    Жыл бұрын

    No doubt she is good at making faces than writing history

  • @sarthak1987

    @sarthak1987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerry-ms1bz Have you read anything she has written?

  • @CRuS4D3R88

    @CRuS4D3R88

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sarthak1987 no need to read leftist Marxist trash which is couched as neutral h1story

  • @hotfun07
    @hotfun07 Жыл бұрын

    Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire in Medieval History textbooks have always been all ecompassing. It is better to introduce History of other parts/regions of the sub continent in Medieval History. I dont think Sultanate and Mughal Empire will be 'Obliterated' from the Textbooks. Just two bits. Firstly, 40% gentry consisting of Hindu Rajputs, Kayasthas and other Hindu communities. With due respect, I believe Lt Gen is exaggerating the proportion of Hindu gentry in Mughal Millitary and Administration apparatus. Hindu proportion never exceeded 20%. Instead, Mughals like Sultanate predecessors were more inclined to introducing Iranian, Central Asian and later Afghan immigrants in their Millitary and Administration. Even Indian Muslims of Hindu lineage, like Muslim Rajputs were not ALWAYS preferred. Mostly, Indian Muslims of Foreign lineage were preferred. Second, Medieval Hindu temple raiding never climaxed in desecration and destruction of the Temple Deity's Idol. Btw, even the 1998 7th Standard History Textbook said Mahmud raided India SEVENTEEN times. What were the so called Congress biased Left leaning NCERT bosses smoking in pre Vajpayee and pre Modi Era 😜🤣

  • @AjeebDastaan2015

    @AjeebDastaan2015

    Жыл бұрын

    Akbar & other Mughal rulers always had a balance of representation of Iranis,Turanis/Central Asians,Hindus & Indian Muslims in the nobility so that one group is not predominant & start calling the shots which happened later after Bahadur Shah I.

  • @hotfun07

    @hotfun07

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AjeebDastaan2015 Indeed. But Hindu representation never exceeded 20%.

  • @AjeebDastaan2015

    @AjeebDastaan2015

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​​@@hotfun07 Satish Chandra's Medieval India Part 2(Page 285) references M Athar Ali's works which presents stats belonging to the time from 1679-1701 CE (peak period of the Mughal Deccan War) the Hindu component in the Mansabdars belonging to the rank of 1000 zat & above was 31.6 percent of which nearly half were Marathas. Of course Marathas were not given much important roles of Governor of Subas(Subedar) or Commander of Forts(Faujdar).

  • @hotfun07

    @hotfun07

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AjeebDastaan2015 Again digression. 30% Mansabdars of the Rank 1000 or above being Hindu is definitely NOT 40% personnel in Mughal CIVIL AND MILLITARY(all positions and ranks) apparatus being Hindu! Besides, M Athar Ali's work is on the Apparatus of the Mughal Empire, both CIVIL AND MILLITARY. Fact is, which you had CLEVERLY evaded as demonstrated in M Athar Ali's Research that Mughals preferred FOREIGN BORN IRANIAN, CENTRAL ASIAN AND AFGHAN personnel in BOTH CIVIL AND MILLITARY positions when the proportion of these FOREIGN BORN MUSLIM communities in the MUSLIM POPULATION OF THE SUB CONTINENT was MINISCULE. Even the INDIAN MUSLIM COMMUNITIES preferred for CIVIL AND MILLITARY positions viz. BARAHI AND BUKHARI Sayed communities to name a few, were of Foriegn Descent and NOT MUSLIM RAJPUTS OR OTHER INDIAN CASTE GROUPS who had accepted ISLAM in centuries preceding Akbar's reign. Why are you MANIPULATING THE FACTS AND INFERENCES CLEARLY MENTIONED IN THE REASEARCH WORK YOU HAD YOURSELF CITED? Truth be told, the rising proportion of Hindus in the Mughal Apparatus, specially MILLITARY was the primary reason for the ASCENDANCY OF SHAH ABDUR RAHIM AND his PROGENY (both biological and doctrinal) triggering the REGRESSIVE turn in the ISLAMIC Theology, Doctrine and Jurisprudence in the Indian Sub continent.

  • @AjeebDastaan2015

    @AjeebDastaan2015

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hotfun07I only contested your claim that the Hindu community's participation in Mughal bureaucracy(civil & military) was less than 20 percent at any point in time. There is no means of arriving on that figure. My reference to Athar Ali's works was about one class of Mansabdars above the rank of 1000 Zat & above which was 31.6 percent. I haven't vouched for the rest of the participation of the Hindu community in the broad bureaucratic circle but mind you the revenue/civil bureaucracy was dominated by the Iranians & Hindus especially Kayasthas & Khatris. Even Lt Gen Shah's figure of 40 percent can't be taken seriously. And there's no point in emphasizing on the preponderance of Iranis & Turanis in higher echelons of power(civil & military) to me when I have not contested that.

  • @rajukuriakose2935
    @rajukuriakose2935 Жыл бұрын

    Payashi Raja didn’t fight against the British for the freedom of the kingdom/ Malabar/ Vayanad regions but he fought against the British because he was not allowed to collect taxes. He fought because he wanted to collect taxes from his subjects 😀. He was a selfish person … Not a nationalist 😜

  • @jerry-ms1bz
    @jerry-ms1bz Жыл бұрын

    If one logically analyses aryan invasion theory , it stands on its head at its very beginning . --- br ambedkar 💞

  • @MrSafwanmohd

    @MrSafwanmohd

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes a special kind of hypocrisy to hide away from the crime and atrocities committed against the very man one quotes. Hypocrisy ke Seema ke baad manuwaadi hoti hai kya😂 By the way Ambedkar didn't have genetic and cell research at his disposal at that time.

  • @jaydev7155

    @jaydev7155

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrSafwanmohd check your genetics first

  • @jerry-ms1bz

    @jerry-ms1bz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrSafwanmohd 😊😊 arey arey arey biryani bhai ,, read the whole paper on aryan genetics published in cell,, according to it dravidians are also migratory species from zagros mountains of iran , before them indo africans are also migratory species from out of africa ,, so apne ko to koi locha nahi karva lo gene testing on a national scale 💞💞 but as said by ambedkar ,, muslims are not to be spared 😘

  • @MrSafwanmohd

    @MrSafwanmohd

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jerry-ms1bz ​@jerry Finally! when you have conceded now that there was migration from Africa there is no point further to make who came when to claim ownership of land. Migration is a naturally occurring event in human history. As social/religious/cultures evolve and merge and lines on land are drawn and redrawn no one particular group of people can stake claims or say one is superior to another just because who entered the room first. Each can be evaluated on the merits of their contribution to the advancement of civilization that is all. It is sheer stupidity of all the monkeys if they make a lot of noise and ruckus because they happen to be in the majority or they came first to the jungle.😂 Regarding Ambedkar and what he said about whom. I too can quote him but it is beyond hypocrisy to quote a man out of context and put words in his mouth. There is a context in which Ambedkar said about the muslims of that time and the man makes his context pretty clear in the title of his work "Pakistan or the Partition of India" and a excerpt from his particular writing "Pakistan: National frustration" that is being peddle here out of context.

  • @urrasscal8380

    @urrasscal8380

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrSafwanmohd digest this .................46'-47' election result -------mmossllim constituency ( Bombay province 100% vote goes to M.League , Madras Province 100% , Bengal 95% , Assam 91% , Orissa 100% , Central province 93% so on so on......)

  • @manojgoel3910
    @manojgoel3910 Жыл бұрын

    History was out from 1947 that suited congress and leftist….now BJP is trying to put what make sense to them. Given technology advancement…we should find truth and put it as it is

  • @silvigupta4359
    @silvigupta4359 Жыл бұрын

    Cos currently she is addressing about the Mughals and not the Cholas matter.

  • @SubbuKrishnan
    @SubbuKrishnan Жыл бұрын

    PKD dude is also an historian 😮

  • @gsbedi

    @gsbedi

    Жыл бұрын

    He is like that guy wronganathan expert on everything!

  • @raajfirke7362
    @raajfirke7362 Жыл бұрын

    This discussion is a bull sheet one. We have no chapters on SUBHASH BOSE, VEER SAVARKAR, BHAGTASINGH, SUKHDEV, SHAMPRASAD VARMA, MADAM KAMA. The were such a great freedom fighter and our educationists have completely forgotten them and these people are crying about the MUGHALS.

  • @amitha72
    @amitha72 Жыл бұрын

    There is more than what happened in Delhi in Indian history.

  • @srinivasannarasimhan4818
    @srinivasannarasimhan4818 Жыл бұрын

    Cholas no documentation, cholas are known for documentation, temple inscription and copper plate

  • @poorvasharma8807
    @poorvasharma8807 Жыл бұрын

    The Army veteran was the most balanced and wise 🙏

  • @MichToJoshya
    @MichToJoshya Жыл бұрын

    23:03 Burkha...make sure you bring real historians in your show. The text clearly states he attacked 17 times, one of which was the somnath, not that he attacked somnath 17 times.

  • @victor256in
    @victor256in Жыл бұрын

    About freaking time! Good riddance- and I am no enemy of Mughal history

  • @korathmathew
    @korathmathew Жыл бұрын

    Mughals are not worthy of the name and fame they have been given in the history books. In fact, most of the North Indian kings fall short in comparison to the South Indian kings, namely the cholas and the Vijaynagar empire. Even Marathas were more famous. They fought the third battle of Panipat and ruled Delhi for 100 years before losing out to British.

  • @venkatkrishnan3892
    @venkatkrishnan3892 Жыл бұрын

    Indian empires must be classified into Indigenous Empires & Foreign Empires.... across the the entire timeline of known history. Mughal chapters need to be re-written. Delete the glorification.

  • @megda1000
    @megda1000 Жыл бұрын

    We Hindu survived because We are sanatanis

  • @vivek1raja

    @vivek1raja

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure genius

  • @megda1000

    @megda1000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja yes we are true people of God 🙏🙏 thanks for your support

  • @FirstLast-fj1yp

    @FirstLast-fj1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vivek1raja you have mulla dna, you won't know.

  • @patrickdial5810
    @patrickdial5810 Жыл бұрын

    Don't merely truncate text books; t he answer is to rewrite the books.

  • @user-bp5dm4tp6c
    @user-bp5dm4tp6c Жыл бұрын

    Modi Government is doing right. Indian worriers ,kings must get their worthy place in HISTORY BOOKS.

  • @rrdutta2136
    @rrdutta2136 Жыл бұрын

    Little knowledge is dangerous. Why call so called few who are really clueless!

  • @binduchawla5156
    @binduchawla5156 Жыл бұрын

    Uk does not include colonial history completely - not even s page Have interviewed students from their school history curriculum ?????

  • @joal9235
    @joal9235 Жыл бұрын

    Mughals weighs very heavily on the Hindutva minds. It reminds them of the Taj Mahal ( time to demolish it like that ugly mosque in Ayodia & build a Shiva Temple in place of the Ugly Taj).

  • @vimmivimmi3173
    @vimmivimmi3173 Жыл бұрын

    So, now are we not having any form of Tax in India. Muslims paid Zakat - which is called Tax, and Hindus paid Jaziya - both are tax

  • @rameshb5573
    @rameshb55738 ай бұрын

    Gandhiji favored Muslims so much, that none would have done the same. But what is the use, does the Muslim institutions teaches his principles. Is there any curriculums in madrasahs about Gandhiji or another great leaders of india. When minorities doesn't the study then why should others do. BD is just confusing people to favour UPA .These media should do better service than with politics.

  • @vinayaksardesai7521
    @vinayaksardesai7521 Жыл бұрын

    Why only the historians with typical Left perspective on the panel and no professional historians like Vikram Sampath or Sanjeev Sanyal called?

  • @amanj3051
    @amanj3051 Жыл бұрын

    Only 2 against 4 .....Barkha did not learn even after leaving NDTV.

  • @insurance4youi4u64
    @insurance4youi4u64 Жыл бұрын

    Barkha, I wonder how you find merit for inviting Mr. Nambiar to this discussion ! He doesn’t even remember Pazhassi Raja is identified as “Kerala Simham” which means the Lion of Kerala even though he was basically a tax collector of britishers but for his later fights against them. In my opinion if we have forgotten anyone in our books are Periyar and Ayyankali.

  • @rajuvarma5338

    @rajuvarma5338

    Жыл бұрын

    Ncrt?

  • @chatrapatishivajithegreat2998
    @chatrapatishivajithegreat2998 Жыл бұрын

    Ruchika due going acknowledge islamic iconoclastism are just study campare particle with mountain.

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