I'm a boxer who converted to Muay Thai, and I feel like I have an advantage when I fight, cos no1 knows how to box and set traps and use footwork in muay thai. IMO

@thedarkknight646

9 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying I started with Muay Thai did it for about a year but then I started noticing that we never really work that much on punching technique or evading and the instructor used to get mad when someone would primarily throw punching combos. I think it depends on the person some people like me are more hand oriented fighters. When I switched to boxing for mma I found it came much more natural for me. Muay Thai did make my legs a lot more flexible though

@ryanjarvis2178

5 жыл бұрын

Slick Sebbar I know right???! Lol. It's like as a boxer/muay Thai against one of the other, your boxing will be greater than muay Thai and when fighting a boxer, your better muay Thai. So you'll most likely win against both practitioners that only practices the art alone. I say learn both!!! Lol

Developing boxing as a base and then adding muay Thai is the best way to go in my opinion, especially for mma (safer to box than kick against a good grappler)... get your hands, head movement, footwork etc. down with boxing and then add on/ train muay Thai later when you have already developed your in-fight instincts ... the reason dutch are best strikers is because they combine western boxing combos and footwork with muay Thai kicks+knees

@MrImontop12

8 жыл бұрын

could not agree more i wish it didnt have to be well this is better or no this is better but instead when these come together its a scary sight...

@mauriciorv228

4 жыл бұрын

DevilTrigger he just said that boxing as a your main and then add the thai strikes. And no, muy thai people don’t have as good hands as a boxer. Fighting with hands relies much more on footwork and movement than staying static and traiding strikes.

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

@@mauriciorv228 what muay thai do are you talking about? No foot work and no hands ability? Check out saenchai, samart, somrak ramon deckers if you wanna see how non static MT fighters can be

@parisiennemoonlight6650

3 жыл бұрын

Samart Payakaroon was a WBC Boxing Champion and Somrak was an Olympic gold medalist in Boxing.

What a surprise that a Muay Thai practitioner would prefer Muay Thai over western boxing ....

@tpvalley

9 жыл бұрын

thedarkknight646 well obviously, because u can kick!

@josecalderon9487

8 жыл бұрын

+tpvalley kicking is overrated. simply watch all the street fight videos on youtube and you'll see that a majority of street fights won't have much kicking involve. Most fights you'll see have sloppy boxing and wrestling techniques.

@josecalderon9487

8 жыл бұрын

tool shresh You just answered your criticism. You're not going to be in tight shorts in the street so why bother to kick.

@nugget22gil39

6 жыл бұрын

god your a dumbass that's because ppl don't know how to fight and you have no idea what a kick can do

@nugget22gil39

6 жыл бұрын

u don't need short shorts to kick and btw dumbass you have a clinch game knees elbows and sweeps

MUAY THAI > boxing ( BECAUSE KNEE , ELBOWS AND KICKS)

I train in Boxing and Muay Thai and feel that Boxing sets the foundation for Muay Thai and Muay Thai is an extension of Boxing. Any Boxer who wants to , could easily adapt to Muay Thai. The training in both styles is very similar and realistic compared to other stand up fighting Arts like Karate or Kung Fu. Either way , they are both beautiful stand up styles. To be honest, if a really good boxer where to fight a real Muay Thai fighter from Thailand with no rules, I believe the Muay Thai fighter would immediately use the push kick to keep the distance and then the low kick to the side of the knee to break the leg in half, I've seen it. The flying low kick to the side of the knee was one of my instructors , Saekson Janjira's signature moves and was very effective. Even if the Muay Thai fighter didn't posses the hands of a great western boxer like Floyd or Manny, taking out the legs would definitely level the playing field. Additionally, Muay Thai fighters also use the head in close combat to break the nose or jaw in a knock out , I've seen that to in Thailand. There's more to Muay Thai than what's normally seen in the competitive version , Muay Boran is older and even deadlier.

I played muay thai for a while and really enjoyed it ,in the training you learn to strike with every part in your body and in the strike movement it self you learn how use your all body muscle when striking.& it's really hard core game .

Agreed(in my humble opinion, however,doing some Boxing, etc , are useful)

your correct i am with you with that it depends on the boxers fighting style too

I agree with you 100%.

I personally like Boxing AND Muay Thai. They're both SUPER useful in a real life threatening situation. Well, Muay Thai is more useful, but Boxing is still awesome!

@Sporkonafork1

9 жыл бұрын

I would say boxing is more useful, because you get in, deliver a few blows, then get out. In muay thai, if you use kicks or knees, you could easily get taken down. Plus, you most likely won't be able to kick that high anyways, because of jeans and such. My preference is boxing.

@Mfor1998

9 жыл бұрын

That's why you learn how to defend against someone coming at you to take you down in Muay Thai. Atleast MY coach teaches me those things. For example. If you kick, someone catches the kick, we learn how to bring your foot back to you even if someone's caught that leg. And for kicking high, that's all flexibility, man. If you're not wearing pants that strangle your testicles, then yeah. I can see your point! It's good having a coach that was a Golden Glove in Boxing 12-0 record (which isnt that good, but damn thats better than nothing. especially for a muay thai practitioner) and he's had a bit professional AND amateur fights. I'm getting off topic here, but what it all comes down to is if your trainer knows what he's doing and doesn't ONLY teach you things as if you were in the ring.

@josecalderon9487

8 жыл бұрын

+Cailon Moshiri Boxing works best with Wrestling. These 2 western arts blends in perfectly together.. I would say better than any other striking + grappling combination.

@josecalderon9487

8 жыл бұрын

+Sporkonafork1 I agree, boxing keeps you more grounded and when combined with wrestling, it forms a more complete fighting system. I also think wing chun + judo would make a nice combo.

@Mfor1998

8 жыл бұрын

My opinion changed. Boxing and any grappling art. Really, you can evade a kick if you have top knotch footwork in Boxing. I'd be just fine with throwing Elbows and knees instead of kicks. Only kicks I'd throw in a street fight would be a leg kick or so anyways. Nothing above the waist.

I train in Muay Thai, so obviously I will be biased, saying that I do love boxing too but here's my opinion: Long Distance: Muay Thai figher will kick the legs, ribs and head of the boxer to hurt and slow down the boxer, they will also push kick him to keep him out of range. Medium Distance: Boxer does have advantage being in punching range but is still vulnerable to kicks and flying knees as well as punches Clinch Distance: Muay Thai clearly has advantage as elbows and knees become the weapons, knees to the sternum to make you lose your breath, and elbows to cut the opponents head. Side note: Muay Thai uses spinning strikes that I have noticed can confuse or stun the opponent as they spin. but if timed properly can be evaded and countered by a good boxer.

It has to do how much prepared and good you are in one martial art. Also its important to know what another martial art is about. Fighting isn't only the use of your muscles but also of your brain and your spiritual aspect such as self control. If a muay thai fighter thinks he is going to beat a boxer on the street just because he uses legs and arms is totally wrong. A boxer is trained to avoid hits on the head and has more precise punches he has more chance to win a short street fight.

I've practicing boxing as usually continuing also taekwondo so I can use both

@littlestockguys7290

2 жыл бұрын

that's good, muay thai has worse hands than boxing and worse kicks than tkd. now you just gotta combine the two! knees and elbows are basic 101 anyone can do

both i say. i think if a great boxer can learn how to defend against kicks and takedowns, that is a dangerous individual. the precise footwork, head movement, combinations and timing of a boxer is what makes him in my opinion. thai boxing is highly skilled sport with strategy, but for the most part its giving and taking damage til its over

In Muay thai competion it doesn't really matter what style you are bring in the ring if you win you win. You can be a big puncher like Ramon dekker or Mike Zambidis. People need to understand that Muay thai are combination of everything in stiking. A fighter can be naturally stronger in one of these stiking movement like punching or clinching. Normally when you have trained muay thai(stiking art) for many years you will know what you are good at and adapt it in the ring. I don't understand why people in the comment always debating about which is better. it is a fight at the end of the day. A fighter who is stronger and able to adapt to opponent with a strong techniques will win.

a jab to make a kick land is different from a boxing jab

I do both Thai and boxing. I compete in Muay Thai, boxing gets a bit boring for me. Boxing is very effective! However I think Muay Thai is stronger, Americanized Thai uses a lot of boxing techniques and combos, but also kicks knees and elbows. I spar with very good boxers, they are oblivious of the clinch and kicks. Good guard and a quick step and their in my clinch and I'm free to bombard them with knees and elbows till they drop. That's my experience atleast

Both are effective martial arts, but I like more boxing! :) Boxe is precise, fast and powerful. A good boxer will be a trouble to any fighter! Against a thai, a boxer needs be careful against low kicks and frontal kicks. The muay thai clinches are dangerous too. But if the boxer knows how to control distances, he will take down the thai. :) Thats my view as boxer.

@yacine.m

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but a muay thai fighter who learned footwork is unstoppable

The only problem with training Muay Thai (for me) is that I have a hard time training it alone!

You speak on boxing and head trauma? What about legal elbowing and kneeling in MT??

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

The target of the strikes being spread all over the body makes brain damage a much less issue in muay Thai compared to boxing

IDK about everyone else but every time I've seen Muay Thai fights they just sit there and absorb damage. It doesn't seem like their foot work or head movement is at all effective, like boxing.

@stevianmambay2121

6 жыл бұрын

i agree with you man....

@jarhead7658

6 жыл бұрын

Easier to check kicks when you are standing in the Muay Thai stance.. it's hard to use footwork when your opponent keeps chopping ur leg lol

@chrisyoung2085

6 жыл бұрын

Josh C. If they bobbed and weaved like boxers they would get a knee in the head

You didn't see those old UFC fights didn't you.

soo i can speak from experience that is not true the bone is 3 inches thick in the skull. I shattered my hand trying to knock an opponent out and i dident because instead of aiming for the jaw or behind the ear i was hitting the forehead like a dumbass. He dropped but by no means was knocked out. I won the bout but by decision and not knockout.

Muay Thai trumps all

Do people need to be strong to train MT?

@CelticsOGFYS

9 жыл бұрын

Hello, you do not need to be strong to train Muay Thai. You will become stronger by training Muay Thai.

@pacificblood7325

8 жыл бұрын

You'll get strong when you train in Muay Thai I do bjj and Muay Thai my favourite grappling and striking

alot of boxers dont defend their legs. if it came down to a fight between a pro muay thai fighter and pro boxer muay thai wins. unless the boxer was trained to defend against the kicks knees and elbows. then it would be more of a challenge for the muay thai fighter.

In a real fight i ve never seen someone won by an other thing than a punch... but of course muay thai can be extremely dangerous, too bad most of them can use their punch well.

so you were wearing gloves which take your knife like knuckles out of the picture and you might need to check your hands because if you were wearing gloves and wraps and you shattered your hands well you got weak hands

Let a boxer learn to defend lowkicks properly and the muay thai fighter doesnt have a chance.

@ancientdarkness3102

5 жыл бұрын

what about the teeps? the elbows and the knees in and out the clinch?? you dunno what you're talking about man

Maybe Muay Boran...

Muay Thai dominates boxing all day.

Any one know if there are belt's in Muay Thai?..I want too do both Muay Thai and Amatuer Boxing...

@Doileir_dj

10 жыл бұрын

ya there is

@AversiePzz

10 жыл бұрын

david o neill You mean like championship belts or belts like you have in Karate? Champion -> yes but rank belts -> no

@AlladinMclovin2334

10 жыл бұрын

Boxing and Muay Thai are more Similar? How do people get into UFC, can any one just pick up MMA and go into the UFC or you have to be trained as a black belt in one discipline..

@AversiePzz

10 жыл бұрын

Muay Thai took over the boxing concept for compitition. So compition wise they might be similar yes. You don't have to have a black belt to be a fighter in the UFC. Imo, belts are pretty useless anyways. The UFC is a MMA organisation. So you have to get signed to it. And only the best MMA fighters can get signed to it. Just like in boxing or muay thai.

@AlladinMclovin2334

10 жыл бұрын

Therefore no belts in MMA, Can I be able to to join MMA if I know Muay Thai, Judo and BJJ

First, I think the art is great. But most of your points are also in many martial arts. Again, MMA is Mixed Martial Arts. They've taken theories and mechanics from different arts andn implement them into MMA. They consist in many forms that work. Joint-locking... tapped. Dexterity and balance... wrestling and judo. Also, ego isn't part of any art. It's a fallacy developed by human weakness. No art is greater than the other. It's based on the mind that wields it.

yeaaaaa thats what it was lol.

Lol Muay Thai is part of MMA so yeah, it's like saying "let's fight! I can use both arms but you gotta hold both your hands behind your back."

I watched someone take a backward kick to the face and drop in the middle of a shopping centre after trying to start some skinny guy...

bone is the same density if I broke my hand on someone their skull would be broken

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah right but you know I'd rather only break his head without breaking my head, don't you agree

a good bjj fighter can defeat any man on this planet...but i love boxing n mauythai.. learn these 3 martial arts then train mma..if we want weapon offensive n defensive MA then learn kravmarga n kali...n yeah learning wingchun also have a good advantage in close combat situations..

@RobertoGonzalez-my8um

7 жыл бұрын

Anish Mathew bjj isnt as op as u think

@mattmegjacob9672

5 жыл бұрын

So let's try and make an example. Jose aldo is an amazing bjj fighter, Conor McGregor is an amazing stand up fighter. I'll leave it with you

MMA has Muay Thai in it.

I still prefer boxing,simpler to learn,ever heard of shin breaks?

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

Shin brake is not common at all in muay thai

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

While brain damage is in boxing

MMA is mostly muay thai, so that is stupid what you just said, most if not all mma train or do muay thai with bjj.... tradisional muay thai is also alot better than stander muay thai u get in mma.

not really

mma would fuck muay thai up

no.

Muay Thai is almost like MMA. but actually when it comes to Kung Fu trained in China.... then Kung Fu is the MOST deadliest training ever made.... believe it or not it is!

@themilkycow4050

5 жыл бұрын

MROKAY6 I’ve never even seen real kung fu, still wondering if it’s actually useful

In every way? NOBODY has the footwork of a boxer nor can anybody hit as precisely, as quickly and as powerful as boxer while maintaining your guard. You guys (everybody, not just muaythai) talk down on boxing so much it's ridiculous, "I'll just keep him at a distance, boxers don't know how to close in." Stupid comments, we can and will close in. All a boxer needs is one clean shot to your chin and you're out, rest assured if a boxer is trained correctly he will set you up and get that one shot.

@Prime_Legend

7 жыл бұрын

Thai fighters have high endurance ya know? I've seen many Thai fighters get knocked down and Immediately get back up ready for more. They are tuff as knails. A boxer has their fist but a Thai fighter has strong leg kicks. 5-10 strong leg kicks can put down a boxer. I also forgot that Thais would immediately clinch boxers if they tried to close the distance(to avoid the leg kicks) and the Thai Fighter would easily elbow, sweep and knee the boxer. In Thailand, additionally they are also taught how to headbutt for self-defense.

Lol... muay Thai IS part of MMA. But I suspect you already knew this.

@ancientdarkness3102

4 жыл бұрын

Boxing is as well so what

No offence but Krav Maga is more efficient when it comes to holding a guard and fast and powerful strikes, you can aim for the chin all you like but when the boxer has his eye taken out within the first exchange of blows he is useless from that point on. I'm not trying to say boxing is useless or anything of the sort I'm just saying it is not superior to any martial art.

if u want to become a mma fighter, do boxing, cuz all boxers r dominating n mma. also u dnt see much leg kicks in higher weight divisions cuz now every1 got good wrestling and dey will take u down.

@mattjolin9779

9 жыл бұрын

Afterall, why limit yourself to punching? That's like saying, "hey ill fight you with one hand'.

the guy below me is lame, trying to get first.

God what is wrong with people, its not boxing vs muay thai its boxing vs muay thai with boxing, muay thai without western gloves, a western ring and western boxing is nothing but street fighting, the only reason muay thai is such a successfull style is because of the introduction of western training techniques, ask yourself this, what is muay thai when its completely separated from boxing and its training regime? not much. thai fighters also have a very bad habit of blocking punches with there face due to a ridiculous square stance in which your bacically saying "hit me "hit me" over and over again, this stance originates from ancient thai martial arts and offers pathetic defense against boxing unless the fighter wises up and adopts a boxing stance, if training in muay thai was more like physics class and less like birthday party then things would be better.

@CelticsOGFYS

9 жыл бұрын

hahahaha.. sure kid.

@calebjones9996

9 жыл бұрын

Muay Thai is kicking, kneeing, elbows, and clinch fighting if you take out the punches which is a lot more than boxing. Muay Thai has always had punching in it so I don't know where you got that info from. Bad defense is ducking punches that's what get boxers kicked and kneed in the dome piece, boxing was made to defend from punches not kicks, knees, and elbows. Neither are perfect but you don't even have to think about it 8 is better than 2

@Theiron2142

9 жыл бұрын

Caleb Jones why send 8 sheep when you can send two lions.

@calebjones9996

9 жыл бұрын

***** You do know anyone who knows how to throw a proper kick is going to kick harder and almost as fast as a punch. It's 8 lions vs 2 lions. You must had never been kicked or kneed or elbowed before because it hurts a lot worse than a punch with gloves on do. But I don't under estimate any martial artist especially a boxer because you can't go wrong with a good punch. I do MMA so I'm not one sided I just call it like I see it.

@Theiron2142

9 жыл бұрын

Well for your information i have been kicked very hard, and thai boxers dont recommend elbow matches until after about 10 fights novice which i doubt you have ever had

Thee is no way one could say Muay Thai is better than boxing! Boxers are fitter,stronger,quicker and more powerful in there punchers. All those Muay Thai kicks and elbows aren't going to help you when you face a boxer as the boxer will be way quicker to block and dodge them. But here's the real question. What do you think would happen if you put someone who does Muay Thai in the ring with mike tyson,someone who is the same weight etc or muhamed ali . The first rule you need to start when becoming a fighter is learning how to use your hands. If you get a boxer who starts training Muay Thai then yes it's a different thing but if that person onl trains Muay Thai then they won't last long with a boxer

@dubbazify

9 жыл бұрын

Leg kicks would destroy the boxer just saying. Clinches would also destroy the boxer... Just saying

@josecalderon9487

8 жыл бұрын

+dubbazify For a kick to be effective, the boxer have to be further out. But if he's a very good boxer, he would close the distance and go to work immediately.

@jackorwell1080

7 жыл бұрын

close the distance the muay thai fighter gets a clinch and before you know it you're getting a knee to the face.

@josecalderon9487

7 жыл бұрын

Jack Orwell close the distance and it's anyone's game. remember that a boxer have a different stance than a muay thai fighter. A muay thai fighter has an open stance where his face is literally exposed. A boxer has a turtle stance with his arms rested next to his chest and his head tucked in. a boxer is more covered up and therefore more protected going in. A muay thai fighter could clinch him but his knee might end up hitting the boxers' elbows.

@wtfmang1234

7 жыл бұрын

Are you aware of how many places you can knee and how good muay thai practitioners are at upper body wrestling? Don't forget boxers are also very heavy on their front foot, so many angles it can be kicked from.

Muay Thai Fighters are Not good Boxers!!

@ismaeelzaid5337

6 жыл бұрын

Gustav Gans But they have better boxing than boxers have kicks, knees or elbows.