MTG - Is it worth it to buy a Starter Cube for Magic: The Gathering?
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Many Magic: The Gathering players ask the question: Is it worth it to buy a starter cube? Cube is quite possibly the apotheosis of Magic: The Gathering, the greatest expression of the game in the ultimate format. Unfortunately, Cube is also extremely expensive, with even non-Power cubes often costing in the high hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Now, Card Kingdom has released a Starter Cube, designed and refined by Magic pro and game designer Chris Van Meter, and priced at only $99. But is this a genuine cube experience of balanced yet powerful Magic gameplay, or just a strictly worse cube that can’t hold a candle to the real experience? Let’s take a look!
But first, I quick word about this video. This channel is sponsored by the maker of this product, Card Kingdom, a Seattle based brick and mortar game store with a growing online presence, but my review of their product is just that: my own. Card Kingdom neither instructed me to make this review, nor have they even seen so much as a draft of the script for it. Although I am indeed sponsored by them I want to keep my evaluation open and honest as I would for any other review.
And thus along those lines, I am posting the entire deck list for the Card Kingdom Starter Cube in this video’s description. You do not have to buy this product from card Kingdom, there is no mystery as to the cards contained within, and you may assemble the components yourself either from your own collection or other sellers as you see fit. I am reviewing the construction of this as a Starter Cube, in other words, I am analyzing and evaluating the CUBE itself and asking if this gameplay experience is worth $100, but the complete list is yours for free and you may do with it what you wish.
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@phenaxdk5857
6 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to winston draft this cube? Me and my two friends once tried a draft just the three of us, and it was kind of boring because we knew archetypes we were doing.
@ChrisVanMeter
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@mmurphy373
6 жыл бұрын
Professor, The Starter Cube list you linked to is not accurate. The very clip you showed of LRR playing this cube shows a Profane Procession being played. This card is not in the list within that link. The fact that every guild except for Orzhov and Azorius have 3 multicolor cards and it is missing Profane Procession makes me think there is another missing card. White is also listed as having 2 more cards than every other color. So I suspect there are a couple extras in there.
@tylerversboncoeur2269
6 жыл бұрын
They played the V2 of the cube, which isn't available anymore. This is the V3 cube, slightly different due to card availability.
@2wdr5
6 жыл бұрын
Disingenuous to the core
"You get the cards.." Okay that's cool "...and enough sleeves for the whole thing, plus lands." OH MY GOD THATS AMAZING
@myneighborsnorlax3780
3 жыл бұрын
They have the cube back in stock they still send the lands but they don't do sleeves anymore
@bensaylor9093
3 жыл бұрын
@@myneighborsnorlax3780 NOOOOO the sleeves were the best part!
Why does everybody seem to assume that every Cube is supposed to have extremely powerful and expensive cards in it? A Cube can be anything you want it to be, composed out of any type of collection. Skill in design can turn cards of any power level into an amazing strategic experience. I'm glad to see products like the Starter Cube moving the Cube community in the right direction.
@michaelyergeau4448
5 жыл бұрын
Lol my current one is from the latest box I opened. Happens to be what I've got and I find it just fine.
@87channels
4 жыл бұрын
ur mother
@ethancordray8006
4 жыл бұрын
@Proton I understand that, but there can be a big difference between just playing with powerful cards, and playing with a cube designed to create an interesting strategic experience. The recent Historic Cube in Arena is a good example of bad design: it's jammed with a lot of powerful stuff, but IMO it's not actually very well designed (doesn't have much in the way of coherent deck archetypes, too many multi-symbol monocolor cards making splashing super hard, etc.). The games I played basically devolved into either bomb races or color-screw, with very few interesting strategic decisions to make during gameplay. In fairness, it was a Sealed event, so maybe drafting it would help some, but I doubt it.
@chesterfieldthe3rd929
3 жыл бұрын
@@87channels while that may be true I find your enthusiasm to be tremendous. You remember that son. Bumblebee Tuna.
@bensaylor9093
3 жыл бұрын
My cubes focus on theme I know exactly what you mean. I always am a little embarrassed and feel like I'm packing jank even though I try and balance the cards for experience and, like I said, theme
I'm just getting back into magic after many, many years and I want to say your channel has been a boon. You have a subscriber and patron.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, friend!
I really like their marketing for this. Here's a great starter cube, buy it from us at a reasonable price, or here's our list if you want to tweak it and build your own.
Even if you ARE a Cube enthusiast this is a solid product if you want to play with random players at the bar or a store since all the cards are probably easy to replace if they get lost or damaged.
The new version doesn't come with a second box or sleeves, so it's not nearly as much of a deal as the previous edition.
@marshallprose7556
Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this... thanks for the info. The sleeves were a huge thing to add.
A re-review of the starter Cube would be interesting. Buying all 360 cards as singles in NM/EX condition currently costs ~ 38 Eur including tax and shipping. Since the current cube does afaik not contain sleeves that only leaves out the lands which are also So the current cube costs you about 2x what you would pay if you just bought all the cards individually. Not a great deal in my opinion.
@PlattyGems
6 ай бұрын
Considering you talk in euros, might not even be a matter of time if you got those prices from Cardmarket. The price calculation was propably based on Card Kingdom's prices themselves, which are horrid for bulk. They seem to have a minimum price, right now it's 0.35 dollars, even if the card could be bought for few cents on TCGPlayer, or GameMarket.
Even if sponsored by CK, your review was honest and thorough. It looks like a fantastic and well thought out product. I look forward to further iterations of it. As already mentioned, this is definitely a missed opportunity from WotC to put out a similar product.
@SleeperSmith
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And kudos for making that crystal clear.
What a missed opportunity for wotc. Just sayin'.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@Noname72105
6 жыл бұрын
Then they'd have to potentially reprint something of value, which would make sense. That's why they don't do it.
@Small_Panda
6 жыл бұрын
Is it sad that battle bond seems to have way better reprint value than modern masters for it price. Like as a draft/commander player the reprints in that set look amazing.
@Robert-vk7je
6 жыл бұрын
@Jim Harbor: Good point! Sometimes it seems wotc doesn't understand their own product.
@ClicketyClack
6 жыл бұрын
I've been saying WOTC should print dedicated Cube products for years. They don't have to be super powerful as long as they are well-balanced within themselves. Glad to see CK picking up the slack.
Professor, I’m gonna have to put you in the corner for that Yargle swing joke...
@mikael6043
6 жыл бұрын
He looked so uncomfortable at the end of that line
@jjanjell
5 жыл бұрын
im reusing that line! prof is tso goofy& hilarious xD
Watching this video reminds me of the Cube’s predecessor: Type 4. Type 4 was a giant stack of magic cards that you drafted (just like cube) except with a few rule variations: start with 25 life and 5 cards in hand, no hand limit, one spell a turn, and infinite mana. This meant you of course had to avoid spells like Fireball or Shivan Dragon, but instants and abilities became absolutely vital. Another old school variant was Emperor. Played with at least six people (add four each increment) there would be generals (players) on each side of the emperor (also a player) and both teams would be set up this way. Teams would take their turns all at once (phase changes dictated by Emperor) and all creatures had “T:transfer control of creature to teammate sitting next to you. Lastly there was a targeting rule, where you could only target an opponent(s stuff) if there was no other opponent on that side sitting closer to you. This would mean emperors could target outer generals and their belongings but not the other emperor at the start of the game, as well as if the western general fought all the way to the opposing emperor, they still could NOT touch generals to the east, as the emperor would be in the way. Game would end after an emperor falls. I wish more people knew of these variants, ESPECIALLY emperor as the few people I know that have combined it with Commander have had great experiences. The reason I brought type 4 is that while you have to omit some cards, you get to play with other cards that were previously terrible due to high cmc or things like upkeep costs. I find variants to be the spice of magic life, and maybe others would too. Seems to be true with all the hype for Battlebond. Another game variations video would be perfect around the time of the set release...if that sort of video sounds like a good use of your time, of course. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Brian! Always appreciate the effort. I've been causally designing a cube for a while, but this cube looks great for the price
This looks like a nice list for a first cube with a lot of cards you need for other popular cubes like pauper, vintage, or a commander cube.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
Yep! They did a great job on it.
@tmpcreep1856
6 жыл бұрын
Justin Ritter it's so fun and always changes since Legendary creatures are always printed. It can get out of hand price wise but well worth it.
You've been pumping out a lot of videos recently, and they're really fun! Keep up the good work!
Earned a thumb up for the Yargle/Fling musical tangent. Shine on you crazy diamond.
Great video, Prof. Thanks a bunch for reviewing this!!! Also, around 4:50 the "sacrifice" and "blink/flicker" titles were swapped.
If they made loading ready run’s strictly worst cube, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Not for me to play, but to watch someone else draft it.
@Woodthorn
6 жыл бұрын
Don't speak its name!
@taliesine.8343
6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the horror.. The terror.. Maybe for Halloween :o
@actualFix
6 жыл бұрын
*insert Graham saying "No" in horror here*
@Necroskull388
6 жыл бұрын
There are people online who made the Strictly Worse cube. I wanna proxy it up and draft it but I don’t think I’d be able to fool anyone into playing it.
@davidfrischer7075
4 жыл бұрын
If you say it’s name 3 times, its commons show up in your next fnm draft
Perfect for me and my gaming group we all have cards from different sets and this would be an amazing buy
wow this is awesome, headed right over to card kingdom with your link and bought one, thanks prof
this cube was the best thing ive ever bought. ive slowly upgraded it, and now the cube has been the riot of my play group. 100% would buy again.
Love your review videos one of my friends recently built a modern cube it's so much fun i might just pick this up and tweak it a little bit it's a great start
I have wanted to build a cube ever since watching your videos. I am a low budget builder though and wasn't sure what I wanted to do that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Last year for Father's day, my wife bought me a booster box of Conspiracy. It was my first time drafting it and I loved the experience. I pulled some, but not all, of the expensive cards in the set. I'm working on a pseudo cube for Conspiracy so I can experience that draft environment with friends without having to buy more boosters. I think I'm about $50 off from finishing.
@ghostware6057
6 жыл бұрын
Are you just doing one of each cards, or multiples of commons or something? I'd love to see the list when you're done 😊
@randomreviews263
6 жыл бұрын
Teifling good luck with the rest
Thank you professor for your transparency! Always thankful for your videos!
I might actually consider this. I've been wanting to make a cube with my friends, however, despite watching your videos on them, we're just kind of lost with the whole thing and if we had one to build off of it would make the process a lot easier.
This channel is amazing, I can't get enough of your videos and I don't even know how to play MTG!
What a cool product, I'm super tempted. Thanks for highlighting this, Prof!
loved this cube. started with it a built it into my own personal flair from it's foundation.
> Strictly Worse WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT CUBE.
@howaboutnow1895
4 жыл бұрын
Strictly vanilla cube
thanks proffessor! i will be buying this, i have a few friends that want to start playing, and this is a great way to get them ready to try drafting.
Hey Proff, I love the idea of an EDH cube and have been looking to get one going but am having a lot of trouble finding reliable "how to get started" strategies for designing a commander cube. While there is a bunch of overlap between normal and EDH cubes I can not find any good content specifically regarding EDH cubes and would love to hear from a person who knows a fair bit of cube. I think a video would be sweet but even just some tips and tricks would be stellar. Keep up the awesome content either way, love what you do
This looks like a great product! Im relatively new to magic and don't own a cube yet so this starter cube looks like a great stepping stone.
Helped me make up my mind, Thanks for all the help!
New TCC vid on my birthday? Best of all, it's based on what me and my friends have been itching to try for a while. Thanks Prof. C:
Thanks for the video on this, while I like the idea of this, I'd have said a pauper cube would have been a better fit as a product. The gameplay would be more powerful and I'd say the price wouldn't be that much different. After building one on the channel in my budget cube build a long series it's been so much fun to create and play. Going through all the steps required to help a new player build their first cube and decisions they'd need to make. Plus let's face it pauper is a fantastic format! And then it's easily upgradable to peasant cube if you wanted to to increase the power level without too many of the cards becoming wasted.
Thank you for being upfront about card kingdom being your supporter, after your acknowledgement of their support I felt I could believe your review.
Never even heard of half the products you review on here, great channel!
I have like half of the cards laying in boxes and never had a cube before. I'll get myself the remaining cards and see how much i like it and maybe pass it on to others if and when i upgrade to a new one! Thanks for the review prof!
Great video Prof, keep up the good work!!!
I have wanted to start a cube for the longest time since I watched your first video describing what it is. I may one day attempt to use this cube as a starting point.
I was just binge watching your videos and now you've uploaded. Spledid timing Prof!
Thankyou Professor for making me love cube you gave me my fav format ❤️
I'm new to magic and I'm defiantly getting one of these, exactly what I was looking for.
Awesome, I love seeing new products like this!
This product looks PERFECT for me. Once I have the spare change, I am definitely picking this up. Thanks prof!
I've been thinking about doing a cube for about a year but was a bit overwhelmed by it all, honestly. This is 100% will be a buy from me, thanks for doing this video and all your other content. Makes being a nerd that much easier and enjoyable!
I love the idea and will definitely consider buying this product as my first cube
I’ve been thinking of getting involved in cube. This video will give me some insight to whether I should or not.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
You might also find this series by me very helpful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqOAm8aEh8bdd5s.html
@DCope89
6 жыл бұрын
I'm just a random person on the internet but playing with my cube and tinkering with it is my absolute favorite part of magic. Plus there's no upkeep. Unless you keep buying new cards for it it lasts forever. I highly recommend it.
@randym5824
6 жыл бұрын
Dave Cope ditto. If you have any collection, is worth the time, especially if you like deck building or game design. Don't think you need legacy power cards to have fun!
@kendermage4850
6 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of fun putting my first cube together. I did a "reconstructed booster box", meaning that I used 36 rares, 108 uncommon, and 396 common. I'd heard that (at one point) mythic rares were 1:8 ratio in the rare slot, which would give me 4 mythics, but instead I went with 5 -- one for each color. My friends and I only played it once, but I had a lot of fun building it, testing it, and tweaking it. It stayed together for about six months until I started picking it apart for commander decks, and still sits in my pile of 'needs to be sorted' cards while I make the decision whether or not to rebuild it. Not only was it a fun exercise in creativity, it was also a great way to spend time with my magic collection thinking about some cards that I don't often use. Building a cube from scratch is time consuming, but worth the time investment from my point of view. I wouldn't buy the starter cube (personally) because I already have 95% of the cards from the list. But, I would recommend it to someone like my best friend who is seeking new magic experiences without wanting to spend a lot of time building "decks", and I did recommend it to a friend who just got back into MtG.
@ItsDangerousGoAlone
6 жыл бұрын
Ian Moone every player should look into cube and commander because they will eventually get burned out on constructed play and want to exclusively play one of these two formats.
Awesomeness as always my friend keep it up
I really don't even play MTG anymore. The last product I bought was a couple of Commander 2016 decks. But I still watch every one of your videos for entertainment value, and this is the first product in a while that is actually tempting me to come back!
Great video as always
The quality of these videos is just absolutely insane. I am in love with this channel
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@iisaka_station
6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I just bought all the sleeves to build my first cube because of your videos. I also went to Cardkingdom/tcc!!!
Awesome video as always. Though when covering the archetypes at 4:44, your subtitles are backwards.
I appreciate your honesty. Ive been wanting to make a cube, and a starter Cube would be amazing. And for such a cheap price, I just might have to.
This is a great Cube to start with. If this existed before I made my N00b Cube I would have bought this for sure. 100%.
@fieldy409
6 жыл бұрын
Milo: The Gathering I still have no idea how to construct a cube despite watching videos and reading articles. But I could certainly swap cards out of an already constructed cube.
I've always wanted to have a cube but constructing has always been the most intimidating part. I didn't realize that this even existed but now I really want to buy it just as a means of playing magic affordably with my draft friends. Thanks prof
Feels like a way for them to clear out bulk cards and budget sleeves. But could be fun
This is an awesome product! I play pauper, legacy, standard, and modern. But sometimes I want to sit down with my friends on a Friday, and have a commander esque experience without really playing commander, as it’s not exactly something I enjoy. This is something I can get, and put cards into such as sideboard cards that will make the overall cube better. I can play dig through time, treasure cruise, batterskull, Jace, and all the other fun cards, while still having a casual, solid games! I’m really excited about this, and think I will eventually get one, to not only start with, but add great cards that I will find and enjoy over time. Card kingdom hit a home run on this one!
Constructive feedback: When you explain the three archetypes you discovered and overlay cards from them on the screen, you mix up the "Blink/Flicker" and "Sacrifice Matters" cards and titles below them. Around 4:45. I hope that makes sense and wasn't rude. Thank you for your video and everything you do for the Magic community!
Always a good day when you upload .
Heard from a friend about cubes, nice to see what all the fuss is about (found this video after checking out academy)
Love it prof, thanks for the hard work. Everyone should check out the advance cube upgrade video! It has some gold nuggets even for my commander deckbuilding. Question prof: what is your opinion on adding the draft specific cards from conspiracy and conspiracy 2 to this cube? Are those sets even considered good for cube?
I'm going to be a resident assistant for my University's residence life for the upcoming fall semester, this seems like the perfect way for me to interact with my residents. Thanks professor.
Wait, so I can support you just by looking at the website? Also thanks for another honest and amazing review
I appreciate your genuine honesty
I absolutely love your videos. You appear to be such a cool and clever guy. Keep up the awesome work! :)
👏👏👏 great video Prof and I am thinking of building my first cube... I’ve been playing for approximately 23-24 years now and if I make this decision to move I will lose all my play groups I play with because I am thinking of moving about 18 hours away, and I can play cube with newer players and teach my kids how to play
Awesome! Will get this if, I choose to get a cube!
Looks like i'll pick this up! Never had a single magic card and i'd like to make some fun themed decks.
Well prof I appreciated some of the early instructions on that cube is a singleton format I did not know that. Time to go back to the drawing board
@tomasgunnartomasson1900
6 жыл бұрын
Eric Hansen Cube doesn't have to be singleton, but it often is. You can do what you want :).
Great video. Liking the beard, my dude!
This looks wonderful! I have always found playing at my LGS or with my local friends to be disheartening as they have often shown to have extremely powerful decks that are more win focused than play. It’s sad but understandable that they can’t ship sealed product internationally or I would save and buy this in a heart beat. Perhaps I’ll visit the Seattle HQ next year and see if I can pick one up, this looks like literally endless fun at a nicely balanced level.
i will use yoy link and help you i have been playing magic for like 7 months so im still new at it but getting better ill buy it
Looking good Prof!
Great beard professor! Like it
I'd be very interested in a "Upgrades to the Starter Cube" video!
I've watched a few of these Cube videos and was able to go to Card Kingdom, see their list and go, "hmm, I have many of those cards" and built my first Cube from that list. I had maybe 2/3-3/4 of the cards listed and then used comparable cards to fill out the missing gaps. Now I just need for COVID to end so I can use it with friends!
Hey Prof, what do you think of the idea of making an entirely proxied cube in order to avoid the high cost?
Great video, prof
There needs to be more products like this. There's so many possibilities with cube builds
This is a great idea!
I’ve been toying with casual cubes for 2 years and had some fun with it but never settled on one I liked. This gave me a template to go by, so I looked through the list, pulled all the cards in my collection that goes in there and then matched as many of the missing ones with similar cards in terms of type, cost and impact I could. Bought the rest as singles and I’m really looking forward to trying it out. You can even upgrade it over time if you really enjoy the archetypes. Just replace a few cards with better ones at the same time and get better non-basics like scry lands or whatever your budget allows.
I'm the person who stopped playing, but this sounds wonderful. I may have to bust this out with my family soon :)
You got the blink and sacrifice matters footers the wrong way round. :)
a friend of mine makes cube to be very close to a real pack(only taking out useless jank cards) and uses blocks to make cubes, even combining two different blocks with 8 players can be fun too, an 8 player Ravnica block and RTR block was a very fun cube experience because most of the packs felt like a regular pack. i feel i had the most fun with that way to cube so when i make my own i wanna make it as close to real drafting while cutting the jank cards, i love the traditional cube decks but i found only the more serious players can enjoy it and the casual friends who play have a tough time knowing what to draft.
Hey professor, one thing I missed on your video was that you didn't commented that are 3 versions of the cube, like if is it worth it to buy different versions to complement each other the simple differences between then.... but overall great video thankss for sharing this product
FYI, not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the archetype breakdown portion of the video has an error where the key card images and archetypes are backwards for blink/flicker and sacrifice matters cards see 4:50 in the vid.
I've been getting into to cube lately, thanks for doing this review!
@CWillGuitar
6 жыл бұрын
Eli Andrew mtg wouldn't exist under a communist system
@Isrephael1
6 жыл бұрын
It would. It would just be an LCG.
@eliandrew9139
6 жыл бұрын
Cryo Hermit and yet the prof makes these videos for free and shares it to the public for free
I saw that Duke Ellington reference. I appreciate it.
another great video
Prof your beard game is on fire right now, keep it cookin
Ive been working on a Theros cube as it is my favorite set
I bought the Game Nights 2018 set and put all the cards together for a cube, it works and plays well.
This looks awesome, I am thinking of grabbing it and adding unstable cards and maybe some conspiracy. Would this be a good starting point for that type of cube?
@ChrisVanMeter
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would actually! V1 of the cube had a lot of "draft matters cards from Conspiracy and Take the Crown". In our initial testing before we pivoted to a "starter Cube" we did have conspiracies in it. It was very fun, but didn't quite provide the gameplay experience we were looking for for the first cube product.
This looks like it may just be the perfect product for me. I love limited and don't own a cube myself but have been curious about cube. I rarely get to play with anyone and when I do I almost always have to teach them with the card kingdom battle decks which are awesome but don't teach them how to build a deck. Plus I get tired of playing the same decks and I wanna brew myself sometimes without braking the bank.
Good starter cube list: Can attest first hand. I built this from cards I already had and ordered the rest for like $30. It's basically a powerful pauper cube with key uncommoms, rares and mythics to spice things up. Very well balanced and a ton of fun to draft or play sealed. Great list!!!
You ever thought of doing a review on the Pauper Cube that Stubs manages, Prof?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
6 жыл бұрын
Yep, trying to make that happen.
I'd love this but the 50$USD on shipping alone to Canada, resulting in a 200$ cube is hard to take :/ Great to see a review of it though since I've been looking at it for a while!
5:10 - Prof deserves an Oscar for not laughing in the middle of that.
i love the sneaky "Friday Nights" reference in the intro