What’s nice is that regular sets don’t have to worry about filling slots that are missing in standard

@dr.zoidberg8666

18 күн бұрын

That's an interesting thought that I didn't consider. As long as this set doesn't have any crazy bombs or oppressive cards, that could be great

@MP_Indy

18 күн бұрын

Regular sets still will though for drafting purposes.

@goldcreeper7376

18 күн бұрын

Sets will still need fillers, both for draft and to make Wotc money

@JJMadsen-gc3ux

18 күн бұрын

Yeah but I like seeing new versions of things like the two mana dork or 5 mana board wipe

@HumdrumMadman

17 күн бұрын

I was just thinking about that. You don't need to use a spot in a new standard set for the basics, like Negate or Shock. It would also allow them to keep something like Llanowar Elves or Elvish Mystic in Standard, regardless of the types of planes we are going to.

As a newly returning player from the 90s who loves the game even after all that’s changed, I will say that a set of simpler cards that don’t make me feel like I’m constantly deciphering if-then statements will be nice.

@kingepostle

14 күн бұрын

Don't play Yu-Gi-Oh then... you will vomit at the card texts.

@DX100HHH

12 күн бұрын

Yeah it's a bit of a problem now. Cards have so much text it's hard to get what it fully does sometimes.

@willjackson5885

4 күн бұрын

​@@DX100HHH To be fair I think a lot of the recent wordy cards fall into the "Nines Lives Familiar" category 13:20

I just hope they keep this set simple, don't need a bunch of chase cards. Just a good balanced set

@volatilesky

18 күн бұрын

On the downside, the exact quote is "all the cool cards will be in boosters", so uhhh....

@TheSventertainer

17 күн бұрын

@@volatilesky I hope they just meant alt art and showcase frames.

@joelowdon1615

14 күн бұрын

@@volatilesky so just continue to buy singles

@garak55

12 күн бұрын

lol you still expect wotc to do a good job lmao

I think having a standard inventory of cards that don't change but then new sets add flavor of the month is a great idea. You can have a shell and then add some cool stuff as new things come in.

@Tgaxgriffen

17 күн бұрын

I think this is what they want and provides a great introduction product that’s actually playable in the most competitive setting.

@user-ps3um2ld1s

15 күн бұрын

Ya, right. They will push the power level like they do with everything else, don't kid yourself

I think the base concept is great. The card choice is going to be what makes or breaks it. Not going into 'sky is falling' mode yet but it has the potential. I do love Llanowar Elves coming back, missed those dorks, and green has really needed help for awhile now.

@Pug8

18 күн бұрын

What's worrying is they are so hesitant to ban anything until players bring out pitchforks. So if they miss it would be very bad. I'm hopeful as well.

@kunimitsune177

18 күн бұрын

Nailed it

9:00 I used to really want Lightning Bolt in standard, but then I lost to Monastery Swiftspear 100,000 times

@genzo454

18 күн бұрын

Now you see the truth. Embrace Midrange.

@shadowseek27

18 күн бұрын

​@@genzo454dog there's that duskmourn card that stops you from healing, there's no hope lmao

@genzo454

18 күн бұрын

@@shadowseek27 As long as they reprint Remedy, I'll be fine.

@asgarzigel

18 күн бұрын

I am the one playing Monastery Swiftspear 1000000 times and I want lightning bolt. edit: although what I'm really hoping for is some goblin goodness. If I get goblin grenade in standard I'll play a mediocre goblin deck any day

@shadowseek27

18 күн бұрын

@@genzo454 i guess theres the hexproof leyine too...idk its spooky though

I'm excited to see how this shakes out, but I'm overall positive right now. Llanowar Elves in standard can help green there without making another new dork for pioneer to add to its 4/8/12 whatever they're up to now deck. I think it'll also help Draft, since they don't need to hit the checklist cards. We don't need boardwipe with sets mechanic in every set if DoJ is there in Standard. Hopefully, anyway.

I have opened my fair share of Core Set boosters and there tends to be a pool of cards they tend to reuse as reprints (i.e. Negate, Cancel, Lightning Strike) so in a sense there was a good amount of cards that were basically "always" legal in standard. That being said, I concede that these were mostly low impact cards, so I am not sure having Omniscience legal for 5 years is a good thing. I'm okay with that being the outlier and the rest of the set just being more low impact stuff.

@Joker22593

18 күн бұрын

If you let your opponent get to 10 mana without dying, you deserve to lose to omniscience.

@gimili_ice

18 күн бұрын

Comes down as early as turn 3/4 with whats currently present in standard​@Joker22593

@darianm9741

18 күн бұрын

​@@Joker22593it might be a problem for non-blue control decks I suppose. You're less likely to kill them quick enough and without blue you can't just counter it on the way down. But then you can side in some anti-enchantment tech assuming they don't just win with their first free spell, so there's still options.

The fact that we will have three sets of cards back in the pool 3 and a half months after rotation is notable. I really hope they don’t reprint Sheoldred,the Apocalypse, Goldspan Dragon and Wandering emperor or anything else that dominated their standard meta in the ‘forever’ set.

If anything this seems like it would excite the old man in you. This feels like a return to the 4th-9th ed style of core set with out the downside of having to print a new version

@JustMonikaOk

16 күн бұрын

Ah yes, the CoreSet. The product nobody ever wanted.

I absolitely love this concept and think that for the first time in a while Wizards seem to have put a lot of thought into a product. I also love that it's not more commander shit. I've been playing on and off for about 15 years now and have always been nothing but casual in my games. However, the nature of my type of engagement with the game for the most part meant that I didn't really have a good grasp on how sets and formats worked, which cards are staples for which format and why. This all changed with Neon Dynasty though, that set finally got me into Magic semi-seriously and I now have af least somewhat of an idea how things work. I still only play kitchen table Magic because it's the most liberal form of the game but I'm really interested in pauper and have built several decks. This is now officially my first attempt at an actual Magic format and it feels great. The point I'm trying to make is that, given this context, my overall collection of cards feels very random for the most part and a set such as Foundations would be helpful even for someone like me who technically has a lot of experience (albeit very misdirected and confusing experience) with Magic. I'll finally be able to not only build a collection of staples but even pottentially dabble in standard. Also, I feel like the products they've prepared for this set would really be the perfect way to teach friends who might be interested.

Something that I haven't seen talked about yet is the biggest boon this set could have, which is for onboarding on Arena. Right now, the Color Challenge starter decks contain cards that are only legal in Alchemy for rotating formats, and as they want paper-digital parity in shared formats, they use Alchemy for onboarding new players. If this toolbox allows Arena to use Standard for onboarding, it will improve the popularity of the format. I see this as a huge leap in the revitalization of the format.

Wake up everyone, new core set just dropped (in November) But actually I just want to see what lands they make. Imagine having the creature type matters lands always legal in standard. Like secluded, courtyard, unclaimed territory, maybe even ancient ziggurat. That means that kindred decks will always have the lands they want

I'm excited for this! Hopefully they play-tested it well enough so none of the cards break anything, since it would really suck to have to ban cards from an intro sets specifically designed for newer players who probably won't be aware of the ban list

I was reading Nine-Lives Familiar while driving when you said “don’t read it if you’re driving” 🤣 love your content! Thank for the info, the set seems a cool idea.

standard is going to get reallllly big, thats for sure

@AutkastKain

18 күн бұрын

It'll be large and (not) in charge.

As a player that has been considering returning to the game, if they get the card choices correct, then Im very excited and will try standard out again. A big problem thats always occurred with standard is player onboarding. It does feel very bad to buy cards that eventually you wont be able to use. Having a “base set” of cards that are always legal “theoretically” means that if you take a break from magic for a bit for whatever reason, you can always return a bit later with your base set cards and only have to pick up a few new ones. Obviously the power in standard sets is going to determine how many new cards you’ll need, but then again you can always take a break when you’re not liking that standard and come back later. A base set like this could also make it much easier to introduce new players to the game with simpler mechanics. I’ve wanted to teach my partner the game for a while, and I feel like just busting out Foundations decks will be a good introduction. It really is all going to come down to card choice in this set, because this NEEDS to be the most thought out and balanced set they’ve ever made. If they cant deliver on that, it’s going to ruin things for a long time. So overall excited, but cautious.

Dev, what you want isn't standard; it's block constructed.

@N8Maple01

15 күн бұрын

Bring back Block!

I liked the breakdown, thanks! Also started playing magic long ago (4th edition) and appreciate the perspective. Subbed 👍

“It’s nothing we’ve never seen before” Yeah and that’s why it sucks ):

Im kinda excited for this. Ive been playing standard for a little while now since boros aggro was a semi cheap way to get into the format but with this set hopefully ill be able to get my other mainly commander focused friends to give standard a try for once.

I can't wait! I started commander last year and might just get into Standard with this. All else fails, seems like a cool reprint set for buffing up my decks!

Oh boy I can play mono mono green big dudes in standard now??? Son of a bitch I'm in

Thanks for the video - i think this is gonna be good for magic overall

3years was rough. 5years is brutal

@kerolokerokerolo

18 күн бұрын

standard is dead

@jeremysette3657

5 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly

I am just getting into Magic the Gathering, this makes me feel so much better about getting into it. Trying to get a deck that can work feels so tough, with what they cost and how complex the cards are.

🎉 Can't wait for the new Mtg set! 🃏

This seems like a great idea. I have been advocating for a core set return for a long time, this implementation feels wonderful. I just hope it doesn't have too many Omnisciences in it, that establishes a baseline that's hard to design around (create a weaker card, it's irrelevant, create a stronger card, it breaks the game).

I watched a ton of LVD's Magic Duels videos when I first started playing (before the arena beta went live and they released the entire Duels library at once). I hope this will be a similar jumping off point where new players can collect all the cards they need for 5 or 6 decent beginner decks and then have options for upgrading from there. For instance, if you like spellslinging, buy packs from *this* set. If you like zombies, focus on *that* one.

LANAwar Elves! It's commander little. They are turning all the sets into something of the variation. However, very fresh and cool idea. I think it sums up nicely and clean cut marketing. A modern change to Standard needed to happen.

Editor Dev always holding things together! 💚

Interesting. I don't play much standard but you're right, this is a huge change. I will say there are cards like Negate and Wind Drake that are basically always in standard anyway since they get reprinted so much. But this seems to be a lot more than just those

if it brings new players on board I'm all for it!!

Hearthstone's core set was static, but now rotates willy nilly (it's free). I think it can be fine/good especially if the cards are supposed to rest just below the ceiling of the format. 4 mv sweepers are awkward; people prefer 5-6 mana sweepers w/ upside or 3 mana sweepers that don't hit everything. Ideally they also give every mtga player the 350 card package for free so it might make it easier to get people into it.

I love this idea, even if it's not done the best, I think just having all the base cards in one set is so nice even for older players

I like core sets. I love the IDEA of an indefinite core set that I can always buy boosters of to get some fun playable cards - maybe some cards get bumped off the list after 5 years when they get crept, maybe we call it rotation 😅

7:35 my thoughts went right into mana elf when you said “magic the gathering the set” lol

When I first heard a bit of news about this set I assumed it was just an arena thing. Now that I know everything about it and thought about it I think it mostly an arena thing. I‘ve already invested in timeless and historic so I’m not going back to start standard. But I think a ton of new players will stay longer on the client because their cards didn’t rotate. And without that feel bad experience they might eventually move onto formats like explorer and become entrenched. I think this is a great business idea to retain players online. I don’t think it’ll do anything to make paper standard less dead. As a new paper player experience product my thoughts aren’t fully formed.

they're doing the hearthstone and snap thing, and good for them! good choice. A lot of us play standard non-competitively and spend the least possible and have weird brews. S'gonna be fun! They'll be able to ban or add to foundations like Hearthstone and design new sets around foundation which is really exciting to me.

I love the idea of the set, hearthstones base set feels good to have access too and I can’t see this being worse.

Feels like we’re gonna end up with a few menace cards that we’ll never get rid of. Like the wrath, that’s gonna get old

Well day of Judgement is a problem I think. It's a huge format definer... and it might make wrath effects harder to design without having to creep them up. It does however provide some constants in the format.... (i.e. a turn 4 boardwipe is a possiblity) which would make designing cards for standard easier to design around

Hey Dev, i dont know if you realize we had llanawar elves in standard a while back actually. In the set where we went back to dominaria before domination united. The set was just called dominaria. And it was fine. It was a powerful card, played in alot of decks. People got sick of it after a couple years though cuz that's just how standard works.

@SBMTG

18 күн бұрын

I literally say this in the video, almost word for word lol. I understand skipping around a bit though, I do it all the time. Thanks for watching!

@TooWhunAte

18 күн бұрын

​@@SBMTG Hey Dev, I think this guy is getting at the fact that around the 8 minute mark you said this exact thing twice actually. I'm not sure it if was two separate takes that both made it in the video or what. I even rewinded to make sure because it felt like a time loop. Either way great video!

I am sooo excited for a return of core sets so to speak. We might not be getting a new one every year, but having a base set for the game like the old days will feel so good. Idc i love vanilla creatures.

Been playing since 2006 and have really enjoyed the core sets! Think this is a great idea and love a simple set that can be a bedrock for standard. The question will be if the commander only players will pick up the set and maybe try 60 card

I'm cautiously optimistic. I think with sets and boosters shrinking slightly, it's going to be harder to slot the "veggies" into a standard set. So rather than trying to fit in things like basic burn, removal, counterspells, mana dorks, dual lands, etc. in a set every few years, we can have them all in one place as constant options. It also could remove draft/sealed considerations: maybe they don't want a wrath slowing down a pre-release game for any particular set, but you want there to be one in standard to keep creature decks in check. Also, having it not tied to a particular setting means that we could get something like the triomes without having to visit Ikoria and New Capena before heading to another 3 color plane.

I love the design of 9 lives familiar, its also a card I was shocked hadn't existed before. More broadly on the set, I think its a good idea, I think it might help make standard exist in paper again, but as a thing that balances standard around nice solid simple staples I really respect the design philosophy, I want cards which just read simple again and I don't have to track 18 things so this might be really good for that.

The problem for standard is the good cards cost a grip then they rotate out and become a pile of nothing. I absolutely agree with WOTC. Standard, if people are ever going to play it in paper, could use some sort of semi-eternal element.

Keep it going Dev. Your time will come.

Such a set being legal for a longer time makes sense: It probably will be a bit lower on the power level curve, so it won't break anything. and maybe having a more stable card pool will reign in overall power creep a bit? Hopefully?

by the original definition it its "Awesome" causing or inducing awe; inspiring an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, or fear

So it's kinda like the Deck Builder Toolkit

Magic is the first to have a non-rotating core set as part of a rotating format. It was called type 2. It used to be the current edition set was standard legal until it was replaced. They could be years apart

Foundations reminds me of the Deck Builder's Toolkit. It's a very nice thing to have for new players (SOI was my first DBT). I'm fine with it, and the new sets coming out each season will keep evereything fresh. I don't see the 5 year semi-indefinite life having a huge impact.

Ages ago I got a Man o' War in a Portal pack. I was popular that day. They were HUGE cards!!!! Senior and child sized!! Everyone wanted to trade me for it. Popular for an hour! This was like...30 years ago!

I like the idea that Foundations should contain the "baseline" versions of cards so that the other premiere sets might be able to include more focused equivalents. Llanowar Elves will be the baseline green mana dork, but if (when) Frog kindred takes off in standard then you'll want to swap it out for Poison Dart Frog or whatever else we get in Bloomburrow. I just wonder if the set will become integrated with drafts? Could we see a change where drafts become 2 packs from the current set and 1 pack of foundations?

I like the idea of an onboarding product and cards that are always available. I think the list will determine its success.

I'm all about foundations. We don't know all the cards coming, but Llanowar Elves coming to standard is going to be huge!

I think this could be really interesting because it stabilizes standard in a way and also can help really solidify archetypes and color identities. It creates a “core set” of staples that won’t rotate out for a long time. Ie you will always have a mana dork, counter spell, removal spell etc that is reliable and consistent and can just focus on the good stuff like bombs, combos and splashy spells that change based on whatever the newest set is. But it could also get super stale if these cards are just better than anything else or in every deck ever.

@byrongehrig8429

14 күн бұрын

Now imagine for a moment a standard environment of Foundations + around 5 or 6 mini sets of various Universes Beyond sets and 1 or 2 Universes within Magic Sets. This will be Standard. 🤢

I mark the years by Dev's hairline. ;D Looking like a evil mastermind bro. :D

Nine lives familiar will be budget and thus it is my jam!

Honestly - I quit MTG probably…3-4 years ago. Right after they started doing all the IP stuff. My local scene died and I was just playing MTGA. I can’t tell you the real reason I quit if I’m honest - but your video popped up for me…and while there is definitely snark in the video and I’m sure some unease in the community about this - I think I’m subscribing to your channel for updates in the thought that this for some reason may bring me back to the game. Maybe I just miss the game. Maybe I’m crazy. But I’m interested

i am mostly indifferent about it. I do like the black cat with nine lives because you can play it, and sac it to something on every players turn cycle. And unless it gets exiled, people will have a hard time removing it. It kind of fulfills the same role as other token-makers (e.g. bitter blossom) but in a way it's "faster" because you can sacrifice up to four times in one turn cycle, then do it again for another round. You've probably won the game somehow if you managed to sacrifice the cat for an effect 8-9 times. It also works nicely with Flare of Malice, which asks you to sacrifice a non-token black creature as an additional cost.

I like it. By having this sort of base set, it gives Wizards the freedom to go even further with new sets and push what's possible. As a person who primarily cares about commander (i know, boo me), one of the things that bugs me is that we get these almost functional reprints every set. "Here's a new slightly different wrath effect." "Here's a new slightly different mana dork." And many of those cards just serve as another copy to make a commander deck smoother, more efficient and inherently less interesting. But if Day of Judgement and Llanowar Elves are in standard semi-indefinitely, that means (ideally) Wizards doesn't have to add variations of cards like these to every new set, and can instead explore completely new mechanics and strategies more freely. I'm most excited about the potential lands though. Just as Dev was asking for Bloomburrow, in a previous video, can we just get some lands that help us more easily cast our spells? I hate the swapping between allied and enemy colored duals we seem to get with each new standard set. Foundations could provide some stability for mana bases, and let us all build interesting decks knowing that getting the right colors of mana won't be an issue.

i really like this from a long-term design view. in theory, it could free up set designers to make more experimental, niche, and flavorful cards. It could also lead to great complexity in competitive standard play with more set-specific mechanics. Hard to say what this means for things like booster pack size, variance, and variant art availability, but the idea of having a more durable framework for standard seems like a good one overall.

Overall the concept makes sense. But even those first few revealed cards make it seem like a lot of standard decks in my preferred power range will struggle to survive. My pet decks can easily be outclassed by a few simple cards like Llanowar Elves and Day of Judgement. There’s just gonna be fewer opportunities to use fun weird cards, I’m guessing.

Oooo, Aristocats...I see what ya did there, and that's y I'm here

Reminds me of digital core sets, like in hearthstone. Stuff that's always legal... But with digital they can change them if needed.

I don’t know what to think. I’m amenable to the idea of one large core-like set that gets updated every 5 years or so that forms the baseline of standard, but I’m already concerned about the standards (pun intended) they’ve set just with these previews. For example: One-mana dorks like llanowar elves (or elvish mystic, or whatever) historically tend to accelerate green pretty quickly. Given the pushed low-mana cards standard has been getting over the past few years, imagine being on the draw and your opponent getting down a powerful green-based 3-drop on turn two when you had a tapland or just no one-mana play or removal spell of your own. M15’s elvish mystic and Dominaria’s llanowar elves were already strong at their respective times in standard, and the value you can get in the early turns has only increased since then. They moved away from one-mana dorks historically for very valid reasons, and yet they’ve decided that at least one will be legal for another five years. Will they design with that in mind, limiting the power of 3-4 drops for that time? Will we be getting very strong and cheap removal to counteract it? If they do that, will we continue to see higher-mana creatures even more reliant on immediate (and thus less-interactive) value upon play? Or will we continue to get pushed cheap value creatures while they just ignore the acceleration? Either way, I think they’re going to have to be very careful. The same goes for unconditional four-mana wraths. We’ll see. As an aside, they should have it rotate in 2028 and have a new set for the 35th anniversary. Just make the 5-year anniversary sets the standard “core”. Seems like a thematic slam dunk to me.

Less functional reprints, less down years in standard with a new median (though may change what a down year is with enough time), and a one time buy to have standard staples isn't too bad on paper. But still feels more like we had to fill a slot on the calendar than something players need

I really don't mind the idea of a perpetually legal set for magic. The hardest part of rotation for me has always been mana bases. If there's a set of duals or fetch (fabled passage crossed fingers) that I will always know will be there for me that would be awesome. My only fear is that it could change the draft environment of future sets dramatically if they aren't putting as much ho hum draft Commons to fill out decks. Not freaking out though, kind of like the idea.

Llanowar Elves & Day of Judgment oh my goodness

I'm tentatively interested in it looking st it from the game designer point of view. I think it could potentially help the designers keep things balanced by having that stability in the format.

I don't understand the push to make standard rotate less. If I want to play standard at all, its because I want to play within that specific meta with a limited card pool. I don't think making standard more like pioneer and modern will attract any new players who are already content with those formats.

@shaneg9081

18 күн бұрын

Standard is nowhere near on par with Pioneer or Modern. It's not even on par with Extended of old in terms of cardpool. And the reason why is simple. Standard is expensive, and that cost is a part of what is driving players away from it. They've done studies in the past that led them to discover that the typical new mtg player sticks around for about 2 years. That number doesn't seem coincidental. It seems like players get rotated out just like the sets do. They need a more stable player base.

As long as they plan the rest of their sets around this it can be great, we end up printing a lot of very similar cards just to maintain certain things in standard so for example if core set has basically wrath of god then any new white sweepers should be able to explore more interesting space than depopulate or no witnesses and maybe we don't need new versions every single set. I also like the idea of you buy one set and you at least have a solid portion of any standard deck for the next 5 years. Of course if I hate too many of the cards in the set then everything will be terrible.

I like that sets rotate but I think this type of product is great. It gives new players an entry level set that's easier to learn and master - later they can use those same cards to play in standard without feeling overwhelmed. As someone who has taught friends how to play only to drop the game because of difficulty spike, I think this product might be a hit.

I like this idea if the standard amount of sets in standard is less than like five or six at a time.

Llanowar Elves has had long periods of time in Standard in the past, and I don't think it caused a problem. It was legal from the beginning to 2003, 2005 to 2012, and 2018 to 2019. I know in general that one-mana dorks tend to cause some complaining, but I really don't think it's too serious of a deal. Core Sets/Starter Sets have done more dangerous than that in the past. I like this change. I've always loved Portal/Starter products and will gladly buy some whenever they come out because I want to support this kind of on-ramp for new players. Magic is certainly suffering from complexity creep right now, so I'd be excited for cards that are simple and competitive. I hope they bring back Leatherback Baloth, or something similar for a green three drop. That was my favorite turn two play back in original Zendikar standard (after a turn one elf of some sort). Sure, there are better options than the Baloth for GGG that have been printed since. But, I think that'd be a good way to demonstrate that you don't need a whole lot of text on a card for it to be good.

I dont play standard anymore but i feel this is fundamentally changing standard. It wont be the same format ever again.

Well if it’s just simple cards and not the extra boosters that go along. Like if they keep shifting the extra boosters but keep the core base constructed decks. I think it’ll be fine like the arena preconstructed decks. Like keep the commons and maybe uncommons but keep the rares of the set changing.

Tyvar the Bellicose about to pop-off

I am old enough to remember a format called "Extended". This and the three year rotation window reminds me of Extended. Same kind of thing to. People wanted an opportunity to play with their expensive cards longer. And while WotC did print multiple "core" sets during that time, those were always similar enough that they did not have a major impact on Extended. MtG Foundations looks to be filling that role.

I had similar concerns I shared in Reddit and got flailed for it. Wondering where I missed the types of products. Sounded like one would have all the basic cards vs. boosters. Have a link?

@BuriedFlame

18 күн бұрын

That's just Reddit though. Every carbon blob on there shoots down everything anyone else says that the hivemind doesn't agree with. Until they have something to say then it's immutable gospel you must integrate into your psyche at the lowest level.

This will aleviate the need for mediocre counterspells and shocks, will standarize without pun the removal baseline, and will help monetarely I belive this is great.

Commander is the mtg flagship format. If you want a format with constant rotations play modern: Wizards keeps printing bust cards that makes previous cards unplayable 😊

I think foundations is a great idea of addressing perceived desire of the fanbase. Part of the selling point of Commander is that cards never 'rotate' and your decks are never made obsolete. And yet everyone online discussion I see of commander involves people bitching about not being able to 'keep up'. People seem to want some guarantee of long-term value even if theyre going to buy the new sets and update their decks anyway. Having a chunk of standard be 'non-rotating' will help onboard players even if none of those cards are relevant in the top meta decks. Its also nice for stores to have an intro product that they dont need to rush off shelves before it becomes obsoleted by the next years intro product.

This is sounding almost exactly like the power level I want: strong enough that a strong player with no collection could pilot decks from this set to a reasonable WR in a tournament... But weak enough that other sets can specialize into stronger or easier to run archetypes

I think it's a good idea. It's nice to have a base set where they can stick all the staples for common deck building themes. It also sort of establishes the color pie and creates a base set.

I think it’s a great idea. Let’s see how it’s executed.

This is something hearthstone does, I wonder how much of this was influence from that

Everytime Wotc creates a core set, sales eventually fall to where they cancel it. Hmmm, wonder what is going to happen this time. Any guesses?

This might be enough for me to get interested in Standard gain. We'll see.

Fundamentally, I think that a ‘backbone’ type product that makes new and enfranchised gamers get that MtG distilled approach to popular archetypes, and the flavour of the game - no matter how wild individual, rotating standard sets get - then I think that’s a good thing in general. Ultimately, I think it opens up more space for exploration and new planes or cool returns to old ones… all with the certainty of a super MtG specific underpinning for those who want a way in.

I'm super fine with the concept. I hope there will be a ton of reprints of those pretty simple but still sometimes effective or even helping cards. I can't see any of this cards shaping an entire standard. Though as an eternal Sac aficionado and animal lover, I have to say that I love this cat though. 'Isn't she the cutest thing you've almost seen?" could say my best cauldron pal. Come on you can't pass a turn 4 Wrath? No flashback, escape, Heroic Intervention, Angel of Restoration or even undying or Reanimate like effect or whatever Bruh? Let's face it you should rethink your decks 'cause they suck and you should be aware of it. Same thing for the blue Omniscience Timmy who get eviscerated by mono Red or fail the Disdainful Stroke pass and quickly gets the lesson. And so on and so forth. I trust Gavin on this one. Such an antidote to the neverending torrent of reveals I've been experimented this past two-three years. Simply exhausting. A FOMO card, really? What about a Simulacre and Simulacrum one WotC?

Generally excited, hoping that it's a fairly low-powered set with basic spells that help support generic color flavor and deck types. Definitely feels like they're trying to make Standard less of a rotating format though, but maybe it helps allow for more flavorful design space in other sets

As a player who stepped away from playing magic daily after Throne of Eldraine rotated, I'm intrigued by the Foundation set. I didn't find my home in commander or modern and I'm hoping this can revive standard and give me something new to play in paper. I think I'll be satisfied if I'm able to keep a Foundation set and jump into the game when I'm excited about a new standard set like I am for Bloomburrow. This set gives them the opportunity to do set or block constructed with Foundation as a backdrop, depending on how many cards are in the set. In terms of balance I like that Foundation gives them tangible examples of what is acceptable for the power level of standard. Maybe this set was conceived as a return to form: to give them a guidepost to prevent the excitement of fire design and commander design from unbalancing Standard as they've done the past 5+ years. Or maybe I'm just hopeful like any gamer lol

@neoteo7478

15 күн бұрын

Another thought: they've already learned that magic players don't want to buy basic core sets. Foundation precon collections give useful cards to sell to new players and the booster products can have Foundation cards alongside new cards that rotate. The evergreen nature of Foundation lets them choose archetypes to buff with rotating sets At the very least Standard will be hit with new and interesting design space

"and releasing in January, 2025 is the new Foundations 2, where we print the power 9 back into standard. it shouldn't be a big problem since in the same set, where power creeping them!"

As someone who loves collecting and the IDEA of deck building but hates the reality of it and would honestly love to pull from a static pool of cards like Dominion, or even use the same deck each time, I know I'm in the minority. But this feels like something that would absolutely appeal to me. Furthermore, I'm viewing this from a Marketing standpoint. Universes Beyond has been successful, but it sounds like they might have realized that it's at risk of diluting MtG as a brand, reducing it to just a gameplay format where Fallout meets Final Fantasy. I can see Foundations as a way of delivering a Greatest Hits package of the most engaging characters and settings, especially with that MtG Netflix Show in the works. I can see Foundations being an evergreen Starting Point for anyone drawn into the world by the show or other transmedia efforts. Which, again, is smart! Marvel and DC have had this problem for years: People who love a movie have no easy entry point into the core product. I'd absolutely expect the 5 Planeswalkers to essentially be the mascot characters for the mana color going forward, and it makes sense that they'd mix in faves like Chandra with some new ones.

I never cared about standard but I enjoyed drafting core sets. Also hopefully this will take the focus off of commander, which I enjoy playing, but hate that it is 90% of mtg for the last few years

Omniscience in standard for "AT LEAST 5 YEARS"..... guess i'm done with standard. heck this may be the end of Arena all together for me. have a feeling this is going to turn standard into a mini historic, and we have enough of those formats. this is very upsetting.

@AutkastKain

18 күн бұрын

I don't think omniscience is the problem for this. Llanowar Elves is more concerning to me. Omniscience is a cheeky and stupid wincon, and there are ways to cheat it out, but we've had a similar card that was less mana and let you cast one free spell a turn (also from the top of your deck) and it hasn't seen play like at all in MONTHS if not an entire year.

@computerwaste5950

18 күн бұрын

complaining about Omniscience is crazy btw

@Cybertech134

18 күн бұрын

@@computerwaste5950 It's really not