I highly suggest watching the entire video for context.

@Novk010

20 күн бұрын

It’s crazy that you even have to say this 😂😂

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

@@Novk010 Yup.. I just know people are going to wildly take this situation out of context.

@Monius13

20 күн бұрын

@@lolShinya To be fair, some people can look right at context, take it in, fully understand it and completely disregard it just because they want to talk shit. Sadly nothing we can do about that. Still better to have the comment, though, because it's a good sign somebody is trying to be genuine. I appreciate you, bro.

@8bitbunny_VR

20 күн бұрын

bruk im at 29min and im losing braincells in rapid tempo by how mtashed went about things. at this rate i may have lost a few iq points thanks to mtashed. ^^; edit: just finished watching, i am thankful how you tackled this drama. your conclusion is top tier and comes over with confidence. i hope mtashed gets the right help for said social hurdles too. also, what you described about tectone is true aswell, hes openly expressing how he is. i like teccy for being open about it.

@drewaxon6827

20 күн бұрын

you admit towards the end of the video that tectone is a narcissist and he admits it as he has an emote about it , then why doesnt he try to improve himself about it if you know your fault why not try to be better why just say 'i know it' and do nothing about it .

turns out zzz was a fighting game after all

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

LMAO

@ampota008

20 күн бұрын

Iyo was right 😂

@user-ie7oi2eg8w

20 күн бұрын

💀

@mazethemercenary

20 күн бұрын

Winning comment.

@kilo1901

20 күн бұрын

Man, this Combat System is complex!

I guess the real combat in zzz was against the friends we made along the way

@traincore1955

18 күн бұрын

Mtashed sad Tectone doesn't play Genshin anymore

First off, the reason why Mtashed keeps quitting games is because he might not understand that he is a MMORPG player through and through. You can tell from the stuff he want in games and the community. He wants repeatable endgame content he can stream for hours, something he hopes to find in gacha but no matter how hard he looks, there is no single gacha game like that right now. He knows he can bypass this lack of content by not playing at release and waiting for a long time but he has FOMO of both the content and the viewership. He also says he wants the community to do more stuff together but they do, just not in the way he's used to. He's used to MMORPG parties / raids, not the way people play gacha games "together" because most gacha coop content is ass. Gacha game multiplayer is mostly just multiple people playing a game at the same time because what do you do in coop? I'm not siding with either here. To me, they're both acting so immature. Mtashed thinks of himself as the "adult" in the gacha community, even calls himself the "dad" whenever there's drama between other cc. He doesn't like siding with anyone. Which is why he is a bit of a fence-sitter when it comes to inter-personal relationships (hence the "testing"). He cannot get close to people like tectone does because tectone is being himself, while he keeps gauging everyone else inside his shell. Unfortunately for him, that is not a sign of maturity. Tectone on the other hand, as you say in this video, does everything to win an argument, even if he ends up being an asshole. I mean how many friends have he had arguments just during ZZZ's release? GachaSmack, Hex, Mtashed.... Who's next? All this because he doesn't like that people are judging it early? When the others are only stating their opinions about the game being mid? A weird desire to be always right. Even during his argument with mtashed, he's still focused on proving him wrong and himself right. "If I don't have empathy, then why am I talking to you right now?" Lmao. Could've just said "Why do you think I don't have empathy? Let's talk about it, maybe you can help me understand" and sound way less condescending. Also needs to stop that habit of cutting people off mid-sentence before they can make their full point. Ofc people will get "emotional" when he does that. As for ZZZ, I'd say the root cause of the massive divide for this game is the overhyping which was a result of various factors: 1. Being a Hoyoverse game - People immediately assumed this would be a HSR tier game. So when it's not, there's disappointment. 2. Being marketed as a combat focused game - When they said that, people were assuming that it's like PGR. An instance based, high speed, high difficulty combat. It's not, at least for now. 3. Trying to bring down WuWa by putting it's release date on its 1.1 - No matter what anyone says, that was a calculated move. Kuro was in defense mode by moving 1.1 earlier. Because of this, people will think Hoyo was telling people that players WILL like ZZZ combat more than WuWa. The shared community is inevitably divided on this. But rn, I'd say majority of that shared community prefer WuWa's because of the difficulty and complexity. 4. Comparisons to other games - Especially with that Capcom SF "round table". People inevitably started making comparisons to Fighting Games (which is another drama lmao). That Gachacast Tectone did shows this. One of the people in there kept yapping about how things are similar to fighting games because of "hidden mechanics" when none of the fighting game fundamentals exist in this game (ex. Neutral, Footsies, Punishing enemy mistakes). Yes, in some fighting games juggling is part of the mechanics, but you know where juggling is exceptional? Games like DMC which I'd say is a more proper comparison because the enemy is not another player. Hell, you can't even jump atk/combo in ZZZ which further narrows down things you can do. TL;DR, ZZZ is CURRENTLY mid and people need to stop being so offended when people say that. It's true right now. It may improve in the future. if you want to wait until then, do so.

@saulgucci

20 күн бұрын

THIS!!!! i've been trying to see how i feel and this is what resonates with me the most. Its just so DUMB to be arguing about this and none of these needed to escalate to the level its got to.

@leemohammed7775

19 күн бұрын

absolutely based assessment

@angelobuhytron2663

19 күн бұрын

THIS!! This drama's just DUMB. Both Tectone and Mtashed are grown ass men. And Mtashed should be more vocal on some things that are annoying him (specially if it's a friend) and Tectone should really stop taking the "oh let's debate then" route, he should just respect there pov's and stop contradicting everything that is opposite to his personal views.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

You just can't have a discussion that resolves things when you respond like "I don't have empathy, then why am I talking to you?" Tectone is all aggression all the time, and if you're not willing to back down and let him steamroll you (in arguments) he will never stop escalating. Some people can handle that, others can't.

@pierrotzzz

18 күн бұрын

Based asf.

Hex was right. Nobody can give you back time of your life you wasted on a game you didn't enjoy. If devs can't engage the player within 2-4h the game is not worth it. Players have no obligation to finish the game fully to give their opinion on it. Some games hooked me within 30min and the first impressions are as important and as valid as impressions after finishing the game. About mtashed... Testing friendship is just weird...

@renanshink

20 күн бұрын

Tec is trying to convince that the game is so good and don’t get that a lot of people didn’t like it hahahaha he just don’t get it

@xtentiong.f2537

20 күн бұрын

First Impression isn't what you judge a game on, I remember when people were shittng on WuWa for its first 5hrs rightfully so The story was absolute dogshit till chapter 5. And when people gave their review on the game before passing Scar people clowned on them now it's being done with ZZZ Tutorial mobs not being aggressive enough and all of a sudden first impressions are Totally valid for the basis of the Entirety of a Gacha game that's just fking stupid, because by that Standard I can say WuWa Sucks ass and the UI is poorly made. This is very childish activities, you people are acting no better than the Hoyo shills.

@charmacist

20 күн бұрын

This is what made me lose respect for Mtashed the most. I don't care about the drama he has with Tectone. That's their issue. But to do that to someone that considers you a friend is trashy behavior. Sometimes people say some ugly shit that they don't mean, or that they needed to say but held in too long. But to then say that manipulative bullshit the next day is inexcusable. I liked Mtashed because he seemed like a nice dude, and maybe he is and this just an exception since he's clearly going through a lot of stress lately. But my perception of him has absolutely changed because I would never consider someone that tried that shit with me a friend.

@adrianalbertomadonnarondon1471

20 күн бұрын

​@@renanshinkYou can't objectively judge a gacha game in the first few hours. You can say you don't like the beginning or the combat, etc. But saying "game bad" is disingenuous, given that the target audience tends to play these games long term. That's what Tectone is fighting against, misinformation, not the game's reputation.

@TheSongofSaya

20 күн бұрын

I know that lots of people don't want to waste too much time playing a game to make a judgment about it but I have some agreements and disagreements on both Tectone and Hex's takes. I agree with Tectone that it's too early to say that the game is as bad as people make it out to be, but I disagree that it's not as good as he makes it out to be and I don't think people are dumb for disagreeing with him because not everyone has the time to keep playing the game to make a judgment, although it's true that it is indeed too early though. I agree with Hex when she said that the game is currently mid, and if the game had been released in 2019, it'd be the gacha game of the year and people would think it's the best and that right now, it's mid at best compared to other gacha games. I disagree when she said that this game's devs are not listening because it literally just came out recently, I know people have already been complaining about the TV but honestly, it's still 1.0 and there is still a chance the devs would listen at 1.1. About the drama, I think it's stupid. I personally think she overreacted when Tectone came into her chat and thought Tectone was being condescending because based on how Tectone said the things he said about her opinions while they were streaming, he was obviously being a tad humorous about it. But what I will side with Hex about in the drama is that I do think that Tectone lacks too much empathy and turns so many things into a debate to the point that it can even make other people, including his friends like Hex, uncomfortable and end up being combative.

Video is definitely not neutral. You can tell that there is a bias in favor of Tectone’s side. If you watch the full video you can really see how both sides took a L. Neither looked good in the slightest.

@G0dspeed101

19 күн бұрын

I feel like Mtashed mostly dug himself in a hole. It’s hard to be nuanced about something when someone says so many things to make themselves look even worse.

@joshmayetballoon3103

19 күн бұрын

@@G0dspeed101 I agree, he had points but he was brought down by his actions

@G0dspeed101

19 күн бұрын

@@joshmayetballoon3103 Exactly. I definitely agreed with some thing he may have said, but I hated how much he backtracked and was like “well! I meant this!” Whenever he would hear a direct quote that he said..

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, this video is FAR from neutral. However, historically being neutral about one of Tectone's conflicts will draw Tectone's ire. Mtashed is usually the one who is neutral on these things and Tectone usually becomes hostile about it.

@heartchained

19 күн бұрын

agree, both sides took a L

I supported Tectone years ago when the whole drama with goose and ratsu happened, but in recent months specially after winning the case against atsu his ego was hyper inflated now he believes everything he says is a fact. He's an absolute hypocrite, got insane double standards and puts himself above anyone else.

@christophermauro-barias7451

19 күн бұрын

yupp...

@kuntul5889

19 күн бұрын

Take you a long time to realize

@miyukozero9844

19 күн бұрын

@@kuntul5889 it's because what happened to him during the Ratsu drama was just wrong. Was he wronged? Yes. Did he help the community and smaller creators? Yes. Did his ego inflate beyond control and make him completely disregard any viewpoints opposing his? Also yes. Basically I believe ZZZ exposed him. I'm not a blind hater who shits on CCs randomly, I can clearly see the changes as the situation unfolds. Mtashed absolutely pulled an Atsu throwing a 3 hour shittalking and then expecting Tectone to hash it out privately it was absolutely braindead, but it wasn't baseless either because he's absolutely branding any opposing views as retarded or factually wrong and spins the narrative and attacks any opposition with his community.

@kuntul5889

19 күн бұрын

@@miyukozero9844 you should start to hate this clown when he and that atsu guy harassed a TC guy named jinxjinx for speaking the truth about Prebuff Zhongli is trash

@Arcalite

19 күн бұрын

Yea, sadly this is how I feel too

“Trying to be neutral” Is extremely biased 😊

Watching the entire VOD i can tell two things about this drama : 1 - This drama could have been handle in a hole better way. 2 - this was the most biased video i have ever seen.

@alizap_9105

13 күн бұрын

i mean mtash is obvi doing snake shit

@alexlim3636

12 күн бұрын

@@alizap_9105 yes mtashed is wrong but i don't think anyone is right like tectones latest video made it seem like he's acknowledged his own immature behavior

1. Tectone has sky high ego. 2. Hexjuice has Stockholm syndrome. 3. MTashed is miserable.

@the7jinn

19 күн бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA

@LucasGomes-ng2go

19 күн бұрын

summarized everything perfectly

@Jmcelwain17

19 күн бұрын

Based take

@kangaroosamurai3058

19 күн бұрын

This.

@JayThalea

13 күн бұрын

damn you sound like Tectone hater, if you think Tectone has Ego, you are probably team Mtash, Mtash is right then?

Dis drama only happen on hoyo game 😂😂😂😂

@traiwooten3711

20 күн бұрын

Lol 😂your right it does

@Niddy_Gritty

20 күн бұрын

@xarfiz hoyo needs to stop creating WARS 😭

@chaoticdarkhearts

20 күн бұрын

Facts, this the only community where I've seen a simple disagreement/argument be labeled as "drama" 🤣 can't even blame Tectone for "farming drama" when this community treats the slightest inconvenience as "drama"

@Shioni16

19 күн бұрын

No wherever tec goes lol

@Ikai6969

19 күн бұрын

HOYOVERSE in the back: 😎🤑💰

From my personal experiences with an ex-friend that has a similar personality to Tectone. I absolutely agree with Mtashed's feelings on the matter. Sadly, he was doomed to lose the moment he opened his mouth, just like I did with my friend. Tectone has a death grip on a lot of content creators. It's true that he helps smaller content creators out but imo that is Tectone trying to bolster his army of weak willed content creators that he can control and manipulate. He will call them out, discredit them, or whatever, but then give them opportunities. It's a toxic symbiotic relationship.

@kushj9568

19 күн бұрын

Dude yes, this is exactly how I've felt about this guy too. Tectone literally started one of his Gachacast episodes by asking all of his guests what their opinion was on some random twitter drama he was having. Imagine being one of the CCs in the Gachacast group call lol, the pressure to be a yes man and agree with the dude was astronomical. It was so unethical of Teccy to ask them to insert themselves into drama they weren't even part of

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

I don't believe Tectone does it on purpose. He's a dominant extrovert - and bear in mind he has admitted he's not a true extrovert, he is an introvert acting like he believes an extrovert should for so long that he's convinced himself this is how he truly feels - I think he truly wants to help smaller creators, and getting a group of friends (especially that won't betray him like the Genshin ones did) is a side benefit. I don't think he's purposefully picking vulnerable people to manipulate. He just ends up with a slight power imbalance in the relationship - which likely is much diminished in private settings.

@rjg6139

19 күн бұрын

cool story bro

@moonwalde7926

19 күн бұрын

Sounds like you picked an ego battle with your friend and got mad that others took their side and now coping.

@quake9645

19 күн бұрын

Nah your just a pussy friend, nothing wrong with that. You never throw jabs at your friends? All smiles and "how's work" that's fine and all but don't get your panties in a twist. It ain't that deep bro

hot take if the first 1-4h of the game is bad it doesn't matter how good the end game is after playing for a 100h plus of boring gameplay and story ,I do think that beginner reviews are more important if I play for two days and the game still feels like garbage I'm quitting bc I don't want to invest to much time just to get to the good part the journey should be as good if not better than the end, and I'm not saying that the endgame doesn't matter at all it does but the beginner experience is far more important to hock the new player and get them invested in the game in my opinion

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

Completely agreed, and it's one of the points I disagree with Tectone on. However I do see where he is coming from, though.

@tyrone6

20 күн бұрын

I would agree fully but this is a gacha game the endgame is the real game

@tomaliothetomato439

20 күн бұрын

Fr. Sure, the first few hours of Wuwa's story sucked, but everything else you can do in those first few hours (combat, exploration) was still great and got better along with the story as it went on. Especially if you dont play in En. Im really trying to like zzz but so far, it just aint it. Doesnt help that it gave me the stupid furry as my s rank, so I am salty af.

@mj22292

20 күн бұрын

Is it just me or is the game not that bad. I have been having fun with zzz and the issues with game like the TV and the difficulty weren't bad to the extent we're I wanted to quit the game and say it's shit. I just want to understand the reason why there is this much hate towards the game. An objective opinion of course.

@miyo-i

20 күн бұрын

​@@tyrone6 yes but to get to the end game and beating it you'll need to play for so much and for so long and if that play trough isn't enjoyable most people would consider it not wort their time and quit. Elden ring for example they don't go easy on you they give you hard bosses that you would enjoy from the start and that's what makes it a great game the playthrough should be enjoyable and the end should too wuthering waves bosses were ez at the start but their fluid movement the interactions with the bosses and the great exploration plus the urge to collect echos made up for the story until it picked up and the difficulty. The holograms got introduced without us getting bored or feeling the need to even look for them. ZZZ's combat feels repetitive and the environment does too and let's not forget about how boring the TV system is. I do agree that endgame is what player are aiming for and what gives players the motive to play more but if the path to what they're aiming for is bad then why play it over one that has multiple things to aim for and a better path

As someone who only watches youtube this whole drama came out as a surprise but not entirely unexpected... I don't know any of them that well but it is clear there was some tension before or that's just Mtashed being more reserved in general.

@comfy6327

20 күн бұрын

this is pretty much building up ever since genshin launched.I was pretty much expecting this to happen sooner or later lol..

@G0dspeed101

19 күн бұрын

I saw this coming since February so it was unsurprising. I was also unsurprised about how Mtashed felt about the “Mtashed quitting” meme, but you know what he should’ve done? DM’d privately because Tectone cannot read minds. 🤷🏼‍♀️

OH LOOK THIS VIDEO IS MADE FROM SOMEONE WHO IS ALWAYS ON TECTONE’S CHAT. SURELY THERE’S NO BIAS HERE GUYS. 😂

@AdamBlob

19 күн бұрын

i mean of course there will be biased? tectone chat will be biased toward him and mtashed chat will be biased toward him too? shocking, i know.

@chaptereight3406

17 күн бұрын

@@AdamBlob I mean you probably shouldn't make a drama overview video if you have some bias

@AdamBlob

17 күн бұрын

@@chaptereight3406 true, but thats not OP point. if OP said what you said, then i would agree.

@DegenKingYT

16 күн бұрын

The chats is always biased. The KZread community are calling tectone and hex and this guy out hard for how much of a hypocrite they are. It's a reason why tectone making so much video. And the reason tectone had to apologize to skullcjay is because the entire KZread section called him out on it. He will only apologize if people call him out. If everyone was brainless and just followed him same way. Then he would not have apologized

@Ayane690PwnJitsu

8 күн бұрын

Tectone ONLY ever helps smaller CCs....IF they're subscribed to him.. IF they're his viewer....and IF...they're a dlckrider.

First, anyone who 'tests' your friendship is not a friend and was never a friend. It's manipulative and toxic, and MTashed admitting that was a motivation removed any sympathy I might have had for him. Second, MTashed has been stagnant for half a decade, probably longer, with Genshin being his only spike after Destiny, and the whole time he has made it his viewer's problem. I'm glad he admits his envy of larger streamers, because its obvious (as a viewer) every time he would go on one of his virtuous rants about how bad other people's content is and how he has more integrity than that because he has a kid. I say all this as someone who's been watching MTashed for almost 9 years, starting with Destiny 1. At this point I just want MTashed to be happy, but he's his own worst enemy. He knows he needs to do variety to grow, but he desperately wants to find The One True Game that he can focus completely on instead. Every time he needs to make changes, he goes on a manic episode that lasts about 6 months while he torches his community and everything that ties him to the previous game. Unlike well adjusted streamers who just play different games, MTashed makes it an ordeal. He claims to hate drama, but manufactures his own downfall every couple years. If MTashed wants to grow all he has to do is stop throwing a grenade onto his own channel and his business relationships whenever he gets tired of a game or needs to make changes in his life.

@jaxonking

20 күн бұрын

Truest words I ever read bruh

@ArsevensX

20 күн бұрын

I should be the only mother fucker getting praised, because I contribute in gacha community -Mtash probably

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

This is incredibly well written, thank you for your insight. I don't really have an opinion on him as I haven't watched him outside of research for content creation and whatnot, but he seems straight up miserable playing gacha games. He's only hurting himself and his audience by playing games he despises. I truly hope he's able to find a niche that makes him happy and gets enough view/viewers where he's comfortable.

@ShadowNexis23

20 күн бұрын

@@Mann42 The way he claims that he keeps getting burnt out really quickly on every new game he plays, maybe he just doesn't realize that he might be getting burnt out on content creation in general.

@dreisang2111

20 күн бұрын

Mtashed and gacha games is like a crackhead and crack. He needs rehab

I don't particularly agree that the first 3-4 hours of WuWa is herrendous. The STORY of first 3-4 hours is herrendous. Because that is an open world game. If you are bored with the story, you can go off rail, going to explore some chests, and unlock some areas, which is what I did, and I was having blast with the combat, and overworld exploration.

@SylveonShihoin

20 күн бұрын

Exactly. Wuwa isn’t force feeding TVs down your throat. Hell, even Asmon had this take.

@matthewbrandt8617

20 күн бұрын

Yep exactly this, i can do something else if the story is boring. I got no choice here in ZZZ lol.

@TF_56

20 күн бұрын

thats why wuwas gameplay carries. I legit only got the telekinesis on the 2nd day cuz i spent around 3 to 5 hours just running around killing things and exploring totally forgetting to continue the main quest.

@grenzy5545

20 күн бұрын

Still boring story. And boring explore maybe not for people have no life

@XzMondayNightzX

20 күн бұрын

True, I mean look at Fallout 3. Despite having one of the most dogwater stories in the series people love it. People aren't forced to sit through the unskippable story, engage in hacking minigames for hours on end or whatever nonshooty nonsense there is. They can run off into the open world and do anything they want with the radio turned on and choose what they want to interact with and make progress doing so. ZZZ says "Nah man you're railroaded into this and you HAVE to do it this way." They even have TWO FORCED level up mechanics being your interknot level AND the whatever the yellow globes are. You have to do BOTH it. (And that means tvs lmao) It's not an open world game sure but the combat is so far back seated it's not that either. It's a confused mess that you never know when it gets good. WuWa's start is a dump of info, confused, not interesting for the most part and the VA sucks. But you can skip that, switch to JP and run off into the world and do whatever. And when you come back in Part 6 and 1.1 it's... good now?! And you know what it doesn't take very long to get past that little speed bump at the start. Hoyo's opening in ZZZ is somehow worse than their previous titles. How have they not learned from "Honkshit starbucks (I like the game i think the name is funny though) and genshin and have whiffed it even harder than it should have been? I feel like these issues are here to stay for long time and may never go away. With their track record they've had 4 years to fix lesser issues in genshit and they haven't. They don't even have a fucking skip button. To believe this will ever change before wasting tens of hours of your time is the depths of your foolishness.

One thing is a fact, tectone does not respect his friends when he disagrees with them, he showed that with Gacha Smack and with Hex. You better tow the line Shinya and keep being a good dog or you'll feel the wrath of the dicktone next.

@user-hh7yt3cb5f

20 күн бұрын

This also happened with many of his past friends, who are now considered his "enemies" lmao. Btw, shinya definitely got a treat after making this video, what a good boy

@LuckyUnlucky2

20 күн бұрын

@@user-hh7yt3cb5f You guys are so pathetic that it's actually funny, I straight up wonder how you guys can even type that out without bursting out laughing

@Tomcat342

20 күн бұрын

@@Zurph-qs1te Unless they are above him,like zack & Emi.

@alatus_knight

19 күн бұрын

Tf you mean good dog? So shinya is tectone's minion, not friend?

@TheGIJoe69

19 күн бұрын

He sounds kinda manipulative when he disagrees with someone. Gacha Smack is great debater and knew how to handle the way Tectone debates which is pretty underhanded at times

"Tectone is a narcissist" followed by "Tectone is one of the most caring people I've ever met" in the same breath is wild to me xD

@calebstephan2083

19 күн бұрын

Look up the word narcissist. Tectone said he thinks of himself as a narcissist because he is confident in himself and his takes but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t feel for people. Literally everyone who has met tectone offstream talk about how nice he is. He only puts up this persona online because of people baiting him in the chat. Gachasmack literally talks about how tectone literally cleared his weeks schedule last minute just to hang out and make sure smack and vulken had a good time when they visited his town. They said he took them out for expensive lunches etc the entire time they were there.

@Mello_Madness

19 күн бұрын

@@calebstephan2083also narcissist usually don’t see themselves as narcissistic and find being called one insulting. So him calling himself one I feel is a big sign he’s probably not. He can definitely be an asshole at times but I don’t believe he’s a narcissist or a bad person

@generaltoszur1036

19 күн бұрын

@@calebstephan2083 But he isnt popular because he s a good person , he s popular because he s a raging drama baiter that isnt afraid to say that he would fuck every hot mommy character in every game while he also dissagres with every opinion that doesnt match his view , and look like some people just like to watch some angry stupid people act stupid on the internet ( this is the only reason i can see why people watch someone like ishowspeed lets say ) , his persona in the internet are what people see , not how he goes on a expensive dinner with his friends

@sworkie

19 күн бұрын

@@TheVesariah That’s exactly what you’d expect to hear about a narcissist? I’m not familiar with traits of narcissism, so I’m not gonna comment on whether he is or isn’t one. That being said, it’s not exactly uncommon to hear narcissistic people be described as seemingly kind or charming.

@TheVesariah

19 күн бұрын

@calebstephan2083 Actually, YOU should look up narcissist personality disorder. In order to be a narcissist, your ability to empathize is very little to none. Being a "nice" person is not the same as being a "kind" or "caring" person. If your own subor- I mean friend says you're a narcissist, but follows with "he's caring," something isn't adding up lol.

Mihoyo secretly create ZZZ to destroy a friendship of genshin hate LOL

@alppac9341

20 күн бұрын

Despite Mihoyo blacklisted Tectone. They found a use in him 😂

Feels weird to state you are on Hex and Tectones side and then cherry pick clips out of context.

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

thank you for saying this.

This isn't in defense of mtashed, its just for some perspective. Mtashed defending envi about the mintpicker stuff actually makes so much more sense now. To the community they find it funny, but to the person thats the butt of the joke it can be very different. Envi from what is seems was genuinely affected by the nickname mentally, and yet the community still calls him it, and it could be said that tectone is to blame for it, he started the nickname, and whenever anyone calls him out for it he says that envi is weaponizing his mentals. But that doesn't matter, it still hurts envi emotionally, tectone says this because he isn't the one on the receiving end of the joke and even when people do joke about him, he is he isn't affected by it. Imagine if the community started to constantly call tectone a cuckold since his wife cheated on him. He would probably get genuinely upset over it, "oh but its a joke dont take it seriously, oh if you cant handle it get off the internet." The exact same could be said, whether the topic about the joke is about a game or a actually serious topic it doesn't change the fact that the joke does harm to the receiver and that they dont like the joke. Mtashed obviously hates gacha games, and wants to quit. But he cant since its his job, to him quitting gacha games is more serious, he feels miserable playing them, and the time he spends playing them may feel like he's wasting his life. But its still his livelihood and he has to play the games. Tectone constantly joking about him quitting may genuinely affect him, tectone is joking about his livelihood, to tashed, it may feel like he's messing with his emotions, he wants to quit and shows signs of this but he cant since it's his job. And tectone at every opportunity creates this narrative that he is quitting, something mtashed wants to do but cant and seeing his "friend" do this constantly, "oh you wanna quit dont you," it creates this idea that he's mocking him even if he doesnt outright say it. To tectone it may seem like a harmless joke but to mtashed it isnt. Tectone never tries to put himself in the person he's joking about/ berating shoes. He never tries to understand why they feel the way they do. For envi oh he's weaponizing his mentals, for mtashed he's being a sack of shit. This doesn't change the fact that envi and mtashed did things the wrong way, (envi using the clip of tectones wife, mtashed using hex as an excuse to let out his anger on tectone), but tectone still never tries to understand why they felt they did when they did this. And then when he uses his asshole way of debating whether it be to his friends or those he hates it only makes things worse.

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

ya mtashed takes things to heart. he just doesn't want to be know as they guy who quits every game. he at least plays it until he isn't having fun anymore

@RejectedInch

20 күн бұрын

the "mintpicker" stuff started nearly 4 years ago, when Envi, after "sh*ttone" hosting a stream, expressed his discomfort while being around mister baldy. There is when all started, with baldy taking shots at him for being so soft and implicitly sending people to harass him in every possible platform. Many have forgotten or didn't even know, except the people that watched that stuff unfolding and escalating in the way we all saw not long ago. This is what sh*ttone does to literally anyone that dares disagreeing with him. no exceptions, so Hex also better watch out.

@kyoufuwooshieteyarou7206

20 күн бұрын

My guy u didn’t just compare mintpicker to someone making fun of your failed marriage and ex wife’s infidelity. And if mashed didn’t like Tectone making those jokes teasing him for wanting to quit, that’s understandable but before he just shits on Tectone and writes him off as a piece of shit for it, he has to let Tectone know that he genuinely doesn’t like when he does that and he takes offense to it, which MTashed said he never did. Otherwise Tectone will just think that he is just having a funny moment with his friend

@Papopip

20 күн бұрын

@@kyoufuwooshieteyarou7206 I'm not comparing them, I'm simply saying that making fun of someone with a nickname that supposed to be a joke, whether the nickname is about a serious topic or not can be upsetting for the person that's the butt of the joke. But yeah mtashed defo should have told tectone that he didn't like the vids before deciding to start bashing the guy

@jackmanleblanc2518

20 күн бұрын

Do you think mtashed ever communicated to Tectone not appreciating the joke/meme of him quitting everything before he decided to go on a 3 hour rant about him though? Tectone and the Tash man are supposed to be friends, or were friends at least. There was no reason for mtashed to do all this shit publicly. He could have dm'd Tectone. Hell, they probably have each other's phone numbers.

11:25 ookay stop the nonsense. many of these points were not objective at all.. to even preface these as 'as objective as possible' is laughable. Many people act as if Mtashed went into this reaction knowing what's to come. As if he prepared a list of shit talking points. As I understood it he just reacted to it and his reaction was what it was. You imply it in these points, tectone says it outright before the mtashed call and I've seen others doing the same. It's ridiculous

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's weird. It was clearly a live react. Mtashed didn't plan to blow up. Should he have stopped when he got heated? Yes. But at that point he was obviously not thinking straight. Characterizing this as some crazy pre-planned thing smacks of the Biimow YelanTao smear campaign all over again.

Wow, I thought people were making it up, but Shinya literally IS deleting comments that go against his narrative. That's crazy. Shady AF.

Honestly, you're the last one who should be covering this. You're obviously extremely biased, and since tectone pretty much made you, there is no objective outlook you can provide to this discourse, since you're channel and career hinges off being carried by tectone.

@vlxeno5777

20 күн бұрын

calls someone out for being biased. makes a clearly bias comment over the fact he dislikes tectone. the jokes write themselves

@ChickenChaserLP

20 күн бұрын

@@vlxeno5777 I don't dislike tectone. I watch his, I barely watch mtashed. However, I am going to call a spade a spade. If you believe this video is unbiased and not edited to specifically favor one specific person, well buddy, Ive got a bridge to sell you.

@vlxeno5777

20 күн бұрын

@@ChickenChaserLP think what u want about shinyas take idc. if u watch the vod for context on everything even tho i think mtashed was being a child about alot of shit tectone could have handled alot of things better aswell. seeing the full context of the vods then seeing this video after the fact. theres not much shinya is even wrong about in this video that ur calling him bias for. theres some things id be hard on tectone for. but to disregard the video call him bias with no real take on the situation is kinda wild considering half of the things hes saying in the video isnt even wrong. theres most likely alot of things happening behind the scenes that they all know and others dont. u just see what happens on the screen. so lets cut out the parasocial comments like you know any of them personally

@Bdog4114

20 күн бұрын

​@vlxeno5777 But he clearly picked out sound bites that made Tectone look good and Mtashed look bad. In reality in the conversation there's moments that make both look bad. I'm not excusing Mtashed, what he did was childish, Immature and embarrassing. But the core points he made about Tectone were right. He cares more about being right than understanding, he says things to put words in people's months, maybe not 90 percent of his content that's exaggerating but a big portion of his content is drama baiting, most of his friendship group relays on him for financial gain including Hex and This guy. So while yes Mtashed handled this in the worse way possible, we can't sit here and pretend some of the points he made werent right on the button. At some point when you have drama with like 15 different creators and the common person in it is you, it may be a you thing. Kind of sad to see really

@vlxeno5777

20 күн бұрын

@@Bdog4114 its like u didnt read the reply i just posted and jumped to the reply to my first comment. its ok reading comprehension isnt a common thing to have these days.

“Remain neutral” yet does a clear biased hit piece

@flameofanor1415

19 күн бұрын

How can you stay Neutral when MTashed is saying such retarded shit.

Here's how i see it. for some reason Tectone wants people to give ZZZ a chance but give it at least 4-6 out of 10. but for some people, ZZZ is just a 1. And there's nothing wrong with that take. but pushing people to give it a 4 when they dont like the game at all is so frustrating. That's why Hex asked Tectone what anime he doesnt like. because some people do like that anime but they cant like it because Tectone doesnt? cmon. if the argument for the opposite is true, then its hypocritical that the other side is wrong.

@aziz-nationalhaq6511

20 күн бұрын

Did he actually forced people to like zzz? He just said give the game a chance and at least play for a whole day before criticising the game. That's the same logic he used for wuwa as well. He did call people idiots for being harsh on the game while only playing less then 10 hours but that's tectone being himself. People should know this by now to not take his words seriously cause that's just how he talks

@david_ace

20 күн бұрын

@@aziz-nationalhaq6511 i mean ZZZ is not a bad game the problem is the fact that in our time (2024) their are much better games and wuwa that just came out is on the top. the TV sht they kept in the game despite most review telling them to remove or shorten it is another thing too. and apparently (cause i didn't touch the game) the combat is almost automatic for QTE for exemples

@aziz-nationalhaq6511

20 күн бұрын

@@david_ace the combat isn't that bad. It's just the mobs are just punching bags and you literally don't have to dogde. Just switch parry and beat it. But that's just for the early game and people still haven't done the endgame contents. That's the main reason why tectone wants people to hold on and let the cc's reach the endgame before saying the game is trash. In the endgame, the mobs just need to be more aggressive, deal more damage to you and the combat will instantly feel more interactive. Also yeah the tv legit sucks like sometimes you have to put more concentration during the tv stuff more then the actual combat cause there are puzzles and important story stuff happening while being on the tv.

@adrianalbertomadonnarondon1471

20 күн бұрын

Nah. He said several times: -if you have an opinion you should be able to defend it-. Of course if you say " game is bad" after playing it for an hour, then it becomes impossible to defend that opinion because you simply don't have enough data to make conclusions. What Tectone is looking for, was for people to make a disclaimer: "after 1 hour, the beginning is boring". This claim is much easier to defend and Tectone wouldn't lose his mind ( rightfully, though dickishly so). Tectone wasn't wrong, but he doesn't pull his punches. So although he expressed himself dickishly, it is in service of truth.

@pinksalwaysnice9474

20 күн бұрын

@@adrianalbertomadonnarondon1471 Ah yes the classic "It gets good after x amount of hours.' There's a reason why starfield gets so much shit and this is the major reason

"TECTONE TOLD YOU TO MAKE THIS VIDEO" - just waiting for these people to come out of their holes

@HuH22132

20 күн бұрын

I wouldn't say he told him but rather allowed him

@burakkaya9149

20 күн бұрын

@@HuH22132lolShinya is his own person. He is not in someone’s leash

@MadeInHeaven6969

20 күн бұрын

U got them already

@kiirei1130

20 күн бұрын

​@burakkaya9149 Well, according to tectone, shinya is a real one. So what the guy was probably trying to say is that shinya asked tectone first so as to not disappoint or step on his toe and tectone probably said "get the bag"

@deeptobhattacharyya3249

20 күн бұрын

I do think bias does exist due to sphere of influence being a real thing. But yeah he is entitled to his video but I would think not every bit of drama has to covered and not everyone should be thrown under the bus for the bag.

How tight is the leash, though?

All I gotta say is that was rough. I've never seen a married man refer to another married woman as having "Stockholm syndrome" when she disagrees with him over someone else she has about her own opinion about. I think hex is capable enough of figuring out what she's thinking without being forced too you know? And the "testing friendship" thing is weird as all hell. You don't test friendships. That happens automatically through interactions over time. Testing implies you're looking for specific results because you've never been sure or reached a conclusion.

@minhtinh1211

20 күн бұрын

he reminds me of that meme lady screaming " but that's MY OPINION"

@calebstephan2083

19 күн бұрын

Not to mention hex is far from a tectone dickrider. Tectone is her Bestfriend but she constantly calls him out on his bad takes and even took gacha smacks side when tectone and gachasmack had that disagreement and tectones her best friend. She is the last person people should be calling a tectone dickrider. She is one of the few friend tec has that makes fun of him and calls out his bs

@nerveinz6453

19 күн бұрын

What Mtashed doing is testing what Tectone does TO HEX. Absolutely bashing her opinions but she accepted because she's "his friend". Idk that is a toxic friendship, its like that kid who got bullied but still hangouts lmao

@zipzzo

19 күн бұрын

The Stockholm syndrome comment was hyperbole, it was just an analogy to what Hex was doing in a situation where she completely inserted herself where she didn't belong. That she forgives Tectone for treating her like shit is irrelevant because people are judging Tectone for HIS behavior, she is irrelevant in this case. Mtashed was calling Tectone out because he has a HISTORY of that sort of behavior and they share the same creator space.

@nerveinz6453

19 күн бұрын

@@zipzzo Agree, Mtashed was actually right. Imagine your friend who has been bashing everyone else, do you need to be bashed too just to say "You're wrong for doing that"? No you don't, you see something wrong and you correct it. But people are eating Teccy's word like cakes telling Mtashed its not his place to judge.

Mtashed explained his feelings quite clearly before the conversation with Tectone and how it's not even about Hex. When shit hit the fan it's literally what Mtashed said. Tectone pulled the blanket over himself and began to turn the words over and over again, tearing out phrases and using them against him as if they are more important than the main topic, just as he always does. This video only proves how dumb arguing with Tectone is. And it's totally on Tectone side, as expected from his friend.

@TechyCatz

19 күн бұрын

Mtashed called Hex a snake and said she has Stockholm syndrome. Also he trashed Tectone for 3 hours. How are you defending Mtashed? Tectone only has made light fun of Mtashed quitting games and made it sound like he was being harassed. I said this a long time ago but Mtash needs therapy.

@XLbuffLive

16 күн бұрын

@@TechyCatz I saw the entire stream. I can understand why. He said she has stockholm friendship and even if it sounds too much for sensitive people, there is a foundation behind these harsh words. He was obviously on edge when he said this btw. But I wouldn't be surprised if he could say the same thing about his relationship with Tectone. Guy is a narcissist, but a big creator in gacha space, so you kinda want to be friends. When even his friends admit that he's a dick, you can say they have some sort of stockholm friendship. People just like to cling to words, but their meaning is not so difficult to understand. I also think it's kinda disgusting that Hex came at the end and pretended that it was about her. Tectone literally used her to 2v1 Mtashed when it wasn't about her. Just think about it for a sec.

@pauljerome01

16 күн бұрын

@@TechyCatz tectone is the one who made her popular and he can end it as well. he literally berated her until she shut her mouth.

@kaanpai4319

14 күн бұрын

​@@pauljerome01And that wasn't even the first time he verbally abused her. The reason she takes it is because he keeps her relevant. It's the definition of Stockholm syndrome.

Every hoyo games makes gacha content creators fight and Tectone is the centered of it.

@traiwooten3711

20 күн бұрын

Lol

@0Charb

20 күн бұрын

Maybe it's not hoyo or any other game really, maybe it's always been those insecure grown ups with incredibly fragile egos.

Imagine being unable to surmise the power imbalance regarding Tectone's "friends" in the gacha space. You don't even need to psychoanalyze Hex's interactions with Tectone; this "neutral" video is proof enough of the sheer terror to being the next person getting their e-community razed (ala Enviosity). It's particularly apparent in those perceived to have been "brought up" by Tectone.

@sai_neko_reddy

20 күн бұрын

So it's fine to go and poke a sleeping bear but then cry because the bear ate your leg off ?? You are forgetting who is the instigator here lmao

@saturna1576

20 күн бұрын

It feels entirely like the same situation he accused Atsu of, not being able to understand the power of his words, also this video being "neutral" is utter cap cause it's entirely dedicated towards taking apart tashed instead of seeing his points lmao. The Mtashed Snake Agenda in itself proves kinda how relevant the power of tectone's words are for the better or worse

@user-gu5zt3iy8m

20 күн бұрын

@@sai_neko_reddy Like harrassing Enviosity for years on end until he finally blew up attacking Tectone's marriage?

@user-gu5zt3iy8m

20 күн бұрын

@@saturna1576 I do understand Shinya's POV, though. Not entirely sure about their financial situation but they're probably aware that their entire CC career would go up in flames in the fraction of a second if they decided to do anything that Tectone could perceive as an offense. Even some who could stand against Tectone (like Mr. Pokke) are clearly reticent even when he's clearly in the wrong or being downright malicious. The only CC I see who would (likely) stand up against him is Gachasmack; he's too proud, takes sh-t from no one and seems to have a moral compass that goes beyond some of these CC (who would do just about anything - within reason - for views).

@sai_neko_reddy

19 күн бұрын

@@user-gu5zt3iy8m you should probably reevaluate your defination of harrasment, every one in the gacha community has a meme to their name teccy is called bald , fat , mysogynist, and many more things and I don't see him bursting out so bad that you are directly attacking sensitive personal matters If being called a mint picker is harassment then man i think you are living a very comfortable life lmao Come to the real world bro , and envi could have literally publicly contacted tectone and said hey man don't call me mint picker it hurts my feelings Then I don't think teccy is such a horrible human being to continue it It's funny how people when teccy unfairly got shit for having " controversial opinions" and literally getting doxxed and sent death threats never came to his defence like this lmao

One thing i have noticed with tectone now - He was a soft guy willing to make apologies for mistakes made by other people but once he saw he was taken advantage of his soft going nature, he grew a very thick skin and made some decisions like he wont ask sorry for others inability to be mentally stable or not get emotional in an debate. But over the years he has become too much thick skinned that now when his friends say any opinions that's not aligned with him even slightly, he goes on them similar to how he goes on random chatters he pulls up on stream. But would he behave the same way if that was handled private or in person, I don't think so. So he must separate the way how he handles conflict with his enemies and friends because enemies are there to do gotcha moments but friends are there to have a conversation and understand each other. His online persona is always focused on not accepting anything as wrong that is not shown with actual evidence but that is okay for random online encounters and not to actual people that you know in real life. I am pretty sure if asmon or pink has some opinion that's opposite to tectone he wont immediately say "SHOW ME THE CLIP, WHERE DID I SAY THAT BRING THE EVIDENCE". Its a strategy that must be used only on your enemies not your friends

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

to be honest, his online persona gets the better of him sometimes and thats why he get dragged into stuff so often

@guobalord5416

20 күн бұрын

@@HarzinLolz “Hold on you didn’t know I was joking this whole time”

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

@@guobalord5416 XD

@droidmotorola3884

20 күн бұрын

hes making sure he won't ever get hurt again anymore its working out for him. good for him. bad for those who allow themselves get hurt in the process

@FulMetallalchemist

19 күн бұрын

I would pay good money to see him try the shit he did with Hex on Asmon.

Not liking a game from the first 2 hours is valid to me. Im not gonna wait to experience all the game if I dont enjoy it, especially if I am not a content creator that screams at what sucks or makes fun of it. I rather not play than force myself to get through it simply cause I dont wanna call it bad too early. Also, hasnt Tectone talked down about Snowbreak cause he couldnt play the game at launch and he hasnt given it a try after (from what I know)? Or calling Reverse 1999 a terrible game even though he hasnt finished all the chapters or done the events? How is that fair by his own standards? He likes what he likes and I dont care, but he shouldnt just shit on others that like or dont like something different just because he thinks he is in the right and his opinion is fact.

@flakey9155

20 күн бұрын

he said its fine if you don't enjoy it don't play it, quit if all it takes is 2 hours of play. and those 2 are not enjoyable then quit. He's not trying to convince anyone that it gets better because that is all SUBJECTIVE. Your 2 hours doesn't give YOU the ability to review the whole game however. You opinion is only goes as far as 2 hours. He was directing criticism towards content creators that are reviewing the game, people that are making a game review on a whole game. Like if IGN made a full game review souls and the never got past the first boss.

@minayandere2677

20 күн бұрын

Exactly like the comment above said just look at ign review of cuphead that should show you what tectone actually meant. You can't label the full game trash without experiencing the entire it of it. You can hate It all you want and that's 1000000% valid but is not valid when you start labeling it.

@Tissuestrash

19 күн бұрын

@@minayandere2677 idk man i got to lvl 21 like 13-15 hrs and it was ass lmao

@minayandere2677

19 күн бұрын

@Tissuestrash and that's fine however I wouldn't call it trash or ass when the gollum game exist, crypto scam games exist and and if I'm 100% honest game is mid at best and semi bad at worst still the story, characters and npc are great and the minigame atm are also good. And since it's a hoyo game I'm in for the story and characters.

@Tissuestrash

19 күн бұрын

@@minayandere2677 yeah the game is mid asf which imo makes it ass when there’s so many better games to play lmao

Ngl, you making a video like this is weird. Adding more fuel to a fire that doesn't concern you and drama farming lol.

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

ya this shit was super weird and super biased. shit just needs to be left alone

@livemuse8264

20 күн бұрын

@@HarzinLolz fr so dont comment

@alatus_knight

19 күн бұрын

Gotta get the bag

@HarzinLolz

19 күн бұрын

@@livemuse8264 nah bruh i am good don't need to get heated

@multipatt8710

19 күн бұрын

I mean money is money 👌👌

One thing I’ve noticed is that many/most of the people that were defending Hex when they were accusing Tectone of misogyny and sexism, were the same ones that turned on Hex the moment she came out and defended Tectone and they called her a snake and a having Stockholm syndrome, the very words MTashed used during that livestream.

@ittehitteh9322

20 күн бұрын

real. they do anything just to go 'against' tectone

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

I feel really bad for Hex. I can only imagine the amount of hate she's getting right now.

@kvN1005

20 күн бұрын

he used stockholm syndrome for his situation if he would say something because tectone could bring him trouble. It was not about hex for this. I find it funny how many believe that or heard of it and repeat this wrong "information". I was in his stream while he said it and it had nothing to do with hex, instead it was him having stockholm syndrome. And then proceeded to say something after. Dont get me wrong, its not defending him, but we all shouldnt be misinterpreting things. Just like we didnt needed this video. Let them handle this privately now. Move on (everyone involved and not involved)

@bigfootisreal_

20 күн бұрын

​@@kvN1005 me personally would not keep someone like Mtashed around me or my friend circle. So no I doubt they are gonna hash it out.

@Tomcat342

20 күн бұрын

Dude anyone with above room temperature iq can see hex is obviously meat riding tectone at this point,She will defend him.How can anyone be so dumb?

I agree with most of what mtashed says about tectone. But he could've avoided all this just by a dm to tectone saying "hey stop repeatedly saying mtashed quits coz this sends haters to him" as simple as that. And tectone also should think about repercussions of him shitting on smaller CCs and stop doing this. Doing so sends bunch of hate replies to those smaller CCs. If tectone stopped it the gacha space will become a lot more enjoyable and peaceful.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

I agree, it does suck that Mtashed could have and should have resolved this privately, but his criticisms are still valid.

'Teccy hasn't played or covered Genshin for years' Ah right, let me go fetch those livestream reactions, and the fact he also played it this year lol.

@marethyux3744

20 күн бұрын

He shouldve added 'extensively'. Livestream reactions cannot be grouped into the same thing. He watches them because he wants to see the game do better. And it's essentially a report on how the game is doing.

@PhantomOverlordX2

20 күн бұрын

@@marethyux3744 He's also whaled on the characters. Played 4.2 story quest two-three months ago. Played 4.0 when it came out even, which is in space of a year. If you also count the constant coverage, where it be bait, or more just his honest takes, then it's way more than lolshinya's comment realizes. He might not play it as much as before, but to say 'He hasn't covered it or played in years' when that's factually wrong is a bad call lol.

@whoizrez

20 күн бұрын

@@PhantomOverlordX2 so in the span of the year that 4.X has been going on he logged into the game maybe a total of 3 times and you think that constitutes him “playing the game”?

@PhantomOverlordX2

20 күн бұрын

@@whoizrez If you're reading my comment, and believe that what I mean by my comment is that, then I'm not sure what to explain to you in all honesty lol. lolshinya at 23:11 said both playing AND covering. Which he certainly covers it a whole hell of a lot. Where it be his honest feelings, or bait posts to lure idiots into reactions. He's actively either by himself, or through the eyes of others, still actively keeping up with Genshin, where to crap on it for his personal enjoyment, or for who knows really. But the fact is, what was said at that time stamp was factually wrong, If it was just playing, then your comment would have fair stance. But he's covered Genshin a WHOLE lot, compared to 'not for years' within that timestamp comment.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@PhantomOverlordX2 He also played Arlecchino's quest and Dain's quest and he would have played Lantern Rite and loudly said so but he was trying to do Genshin Boycott. And he's going to do Natlan. He still plays Genshin, he's just not a dedicated Genshin player. He's a casuall

Years ago i watched both atsu and tectone. Now im seeing another fallout between 2 ccs but ones ive watched for much longer, and its heartbreaking.

@ex0dus369

20 күн бұрын

I'm right there with you man. This sucks to watch and see these two at each other's throats.

33:27 and how the hell doesn't mtashed know Tectone's a caring friend behind the scenes if him and Tectone were friends for 3 years? This video is painful to watch. It pains to say you're reaching the ascension to yes-man. Tectone thinks the word yes-man is the worst word in the dictionary but it's sometimes accurate, especially around him since he uses his argument tactics to make his friends look past his bad behaviors. Mtashed was the best at checking Tectone but here he snapped, understandably, while reacting to that garbage argument. Hex was checking Tectone sort of well but completely folded in the call with M and T and became Snake Juice, unfortunate

@jackmanleblanc2518

20 күн бұрын

What do you mean Hex was a snake? I don't understand. My understanding what that Hex and Tectone had a disagreement about ZZZ but when it comes to their friendship they were ALWAYS on each other's side and I don't believe Hex ever pretended otherwise. How is that being a snake?

@SignOne

20 күн бұрын

@@jackmanleblanc2518 After Mtashed said like 6 times this isn't about her, she still folded when Tectone asked if she feels it's about her and she said yes. Just couldn't say anything against Tectone and ignored everything Mtashed said

@Deryzona

20 күн бұрын

@@SignOne Yep. In the VOD she doubles down on the take that it's actually about her when Mtashed repeatedly-and I can't stress this enough-REPEATEDLY tells her and egg man that it was HIS issue with Tectone. Like holy mental illness, it was obvious from the beginning of the conversation Hex was a non-factor and it was about how tectone is a dick in conversations. Let's not even mention the fact that Tectone brought gender of all things in the argument. Go through the entire vod; I promise he is the only one who brings up the gender card.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@Deryzona Ironically, while Mtashed is accused of inserting himself into things, Hex is the one who is constantly inserting herself into things and making things about her when it isn't. The same thing happened with Biimow when she acted like a video that covered EVERY Hoyoverse creator and specifically Biimow wanted her to see clips about her _and_ Tectone was a coordinated and direct attack against her.

@Trickster-rk5lz

19 күн бұрын

@@SignOne She expanded on this on her stream where she talked about it. It wasn't that she thought he was defending her specifically, it was more that she felt he was using her or what was happening between her and Tectone as an opportunity to attack Tectone. She felt like she was a tool for Mtashed's agenda. She didn't like that.

I don't have much of an opinion here, but I do think that it is at least worth considering that there is a power dynamic between Hex and Tectone. Hex had like 2K subscribers before Tectone reacted to her content, and now she's at 26K. She was even invited onto his gacha podcast, which he has done for other small creators in the space. You could argue that her following was earned on her own, but the added spotlight from Tectone and his coverage of the drama at the time catapulted her success in a big way. That creates a power dynamic, whether it's acknowledged or not, there is likely a part of Hex that feels beholden to Tectone because of his positive impact on her channel. We all have plenty of friends that we've met online, and in no way do I believe these aren't real or genuine connections, but they also aren't the same sorts of friendships and connections that are tested over time through minor conflicts. Speaking for myself, I've probably disagreed and butted heads with all of my closest friends in real life. However, when it comes to disagreeing in an online environment, it's often easier to simply move past it and focus on the shared goal of enjoying the game or activity that we're engaged in. Every situation is filled with nuance, there isn't a clear right or wrong, we're all just human beings doing our best. If I can leave some constructive criticism, I would simply say it's best to provide an objective coverage of the situation without taking sides or painting one side as right and one side as wrong, or if you feel that your personal perspective is important then dedicate time at the end of the video to share that. Present the information and let people form their opinions. I wish you the best on your continued success, peace and love gamers!

Mtashed was just pointing out some of the obvious things tectones been doing for 5 years., btw tectone made shinya and hex (so they def him)

Tectone's debate tactics are kind of annoying to watch. He does have a habit of taking one argument and creating a barely related strawman argument that his debate opponent never made that is somewhat related to the topic at hand to make them look stupid. I mean, he's a good guy, but it's such a frustratingly effective debate tactic despite how disingenuous it is. I think I'm allowed go like a CC and still think they're highly flawed.

@Shioni16

19 күн бұрын

Trump tactics 😂

@SrDaedricoCO

19 күн бұрын

True, i like tectone too, but how he debates is irritating as shit

@Puppetmaster2005

19 күн бұрын

He's basically the Cathy Newman of the gacha community. Unfortunately, Mtashed has nowhere near the same conversational skills as Jordan Peterson. Lol

@GreyIsolet

19 күн бұрын

@@jackmanleblanc2518 "So what you're saying is"

@flameofanor1415

19 күн бұрын

​@@Puppetmaster2005MTashed was contradicting himself in the same sentence

I was subbed to tectone, mtashed, hex juice, iyo, gacha smack and many others... Now I'm only subbed to mtashed and for the time being gacha smack. Both sides were wrong 1000% but I'm sorry man, in the hex vs tectone video... All I saw was teccy downplaying her issues constantly, saying she was being emotional... giving that condescending look and CONSTANTLY gaslighting her. That stuff pissed me off. Should mtashed have kept that private? Yes. But you cannot tell me that tectone was right. He ALWAYS manages to get into drama and sometimes the drama isn't even about him but there he goes again, trying to be the center of attention. Stop that. Stop always trying to be right. So annoying. I feel like he suffers from some kind of superiority complex or something and that's not a good thing btw. Because you're always trying to prove people wrong and you wanna be the voice of reason all the time. He also dismisses people's first impressions but he talks crazy stuff about ffxiv being a yap fest and reverse 1999 being a garbage game. Those were his FIRST impressions of those games weren't they? By his logic he is wrong and should just shut up because he didn't reach the endgame in any of those two games aforementioned. What a hypocrite.

@Kirito_2016

14 күн бұрын

You don't know what the term gaslighting means, so stop using psych language without understanding it. "Both sides were wrong 1000%" Like almost all problems between people no one is 100% at fault. HOWEVER, usually someone is more wrong, and that person is Mtashed. Unless my understanding of the situation is wrong. "Should mtashed have kept that private? Yes." Why would he address any of this privately? It was his stated goal to test his and Teccy's friendship. "But you cannot tell me that tectone was right." I know. You're not using logic. And you can't reason a person out of a position they didn't arrive at through reason. "I feel like he suffers from some kind of superiority complex or something and that's not a good thing btw." Armchair psychology is worthless. "Because you're always trying to prove people wrong..." He states his opinion, and then defends that opinion. What's wrong with that? "...you wanna be the voice of reason all the time." Is it not worthwhile to aspire to be a voice of reason? "He also dismisses people's first impressions but he talks crazy stuff about ffxiv being a yap fest and reverse 1999 being a garbage game. Those were his FIRST impressions of those games weren't they? By his logic he is wrong and should just shut up because he didn't reach the endgame in any of those two games aforementioned. What a hypocrite." HE NEVER SAID CC'S HAD TO PLAY THE GAME IN IT'S ENTIRETY TO BE CRITICAL OF THE GAME. He criticized cc's for completely writing off ZZZ when no one had even seen endgame yet. All he wanted was for people to qualify their statements, or wait until ANYONE had reached endgame.

If you start drama in public you can't expect the other person to just willingly resolve it privately, why did you make it public in the first place obviously you are just trying to make him look bad and have it stay that way

@Trickster-rk5lz

20 күн бұрын

Exactly. Mtashed went in Tectone while reacting to his and Hex's debate for 3 hours. 3 HOURS. Then puts his hand up in the air and goes "p-please let's resolve this privately". Like, that's not how it works, bub. You say shit like that publicly you better be ready to get shat on back publicly too.

@1KENNY1

20 күн бұрын

@Trickster-rk5lz tbh I'm not surprised that Mtashed hated tectone he always seemed to disagree with him and i realize that tectone sees that but just doesn't say anything about it cus he truly cares

@1KENNY1

20 күн бұрын

In other words of course it's a damn Canadian

@MrMagic-mi7uu

20 күн бұрын

​​@@1KENNY1even if you disagree with someone it doesn't mean you hate them, it just feels like the reaction videos Tectone made about Mtashed "quitting " made it seem that he was being s#i*ty towards him, Shinya mentions it in the video at 18:23 to 18:54 but if he feels that way he should say something about it instead of hinting that he doesn't like it

@1KENNY1

20 күн бұрын

​ @MrMagic-mi7uu oh yeah you can totally disagree and not hate the the guy it's just convenient that all this happening now and he disagreed a lot with him, also the whole mtashed quiting thing everyone understands that it's a meme even mtashed uses it

It seems that tectone has beef with all of his friends at one point, im curious when the tectone and shinya beef will start

@BadlyCorrupted

20 күн бұрын

Facts and we can all agree tectone is a problem but it seems like none of his friends are smart at all because mtashed even tho he had fair points he made himself sound like a 🤡 with a lot of the shit he said which made him look like the wrong one

@vlxeno5777

20 күн бұрын

@@BadlyCorrupted 90% of what mtashed was saying tho wasnt even right. backtracked on alot of his statements and couldnt come up with a proper argument cause he was chatting shit for the most part. yall need to look at the situation from an unbias view instead of just saying "tectone is a problem so he most likely is wrong" and before yall call me some tectone shill i promise u i couldnt care less about streamers i dont watch. but it is funny seeing people with these takes that are clearly biased

@kkodeko

20 күн бұрын

@@BadlyCorrupted I have the same take on this too, it feels like no one is competent enough to keep up with teccy's fighting style in terms of debating and arguing, he's really good at slicing down someone's general argument into small little arguments that would not work without the other small arguments connected to it, and honestly, if I argued with him about tomatoes are vegetables and he was the devil's advocate(tomatoes are fruits), he could still make me look like a clown in the end. Smack actually almost got him, since he made teccy admit to this "I was just frustrated at chat saying dodging and I had to sleep it off" thing in their beef, because it was the only "lose" situation teccy could work with that would not hurt his ego. I wonder which of his friends is next

@kkodeko

20 күн бұрын

@@vlxeno5777 Both are in the wrong imo, I just dont get why one won and one lost. Both should have gotten the L

@vlxeno5777

20 күн бұрын

@@kkodeko i can agree to disagree. where i think tectone was wrong with something in the hexjuice thing because of how he is. mtashed didnt need to insert himself in that at all. if u can honestly sit here and tell me mtashed going live trying to "test" his friendship with someone by bashing them for hours and expecting them to handle it privately knowing what kind of person tectone is, or for anyone in that matter is stupid. u dont hate on someone inpublic and expect them to hash it out in private. mtashed was far more in the wrong in this situation. where tectone was more in the wrong for the hexjuice thing. but even hex said herself they talked it out and he checked up on her and they are okay. friends argue it happens. the whole thing with mtashed could have been handled in private. he chose to go public and got a public response. when tectone didnt wanna address it he egg'd it on until he got him to call him. how about we stop being bias idc if u dont like tectone idc for either of them personally but lets not be childish

Oof, objectively my ass. Talking mad shit on mtashed at first. We all know you having tectone in your corner isn't something you're willing to risk.

@PlexyGames

19 күн бұрын

I'm a big fan shinya but bro this is not neutral lol

@AspienWaifu

19 күн бұрын

YUUUUUP 🙌💯

@Jmcelwain17

19 күн бұрын

​​@@PlexyGames I will say absolutely this isn't neutral. I love mtashed...Tectone and hex...take away is- Teccy is an ass (which can be fine but he needs to tone it down a bit) Hex had a right to get heated and was based for telling off mtashed to be mad on her behalf. Mtashed although right about a lot of personality traits about tectone...He is hypocritical in the aspect of speaking for others and strawmanning. Idk...It's just sad to see.

@PlexyGames

19 күн бұрын

@@Jmcelwain17 Yes your'e right fs. man been watching Teccy sooo much lately. And i go through this rollercoaster of respecting him a ton and then thinking hes a total asshole. Been watching him since genshin days but he definitely puts himself on a pedestal more and more lately. He makes it hard to root for the guy lol

@kevindelimaalves6910

19 күн бұрын

Do you even know what subjectively means? Put it on google. He said we was going to be subjective, and he was. He wasn't objective

Low key I feel like Mtashed has been having personal issues for a while. He stated recently he was in a bad place and unhappy with everything, so I feel like he needs a refresh and to figure out what he can do to be happy.

@lolShinya

20 күн бұрын

He needs to stop coveirng gacha and find a game/genre he enjoys covering that still pays the bills.

@DeltaRaven97

20 күн бұрын

@@lolShinya See this is also it's own issue which I think Tectone brought up recently in particular. Going variety tends to completely neuter your viewcount if you have a set genre you cover, Tectone lost like 70% of his viewers a few years back when he shifted his content. Mtashed is very rooted in the Gacha community now, it's going to take some time for him to forge a completely new identity. And unfortunately, he definitely shared a bunch of viewers with Teccy who now are likely to stop watching him after this whole debate unless things get patched up. It's just a bad situation for him altogether...

@comfy6327

20 күн бұрын

@@lolShinya why are you deciding what he should do tho? let him do his thing even he himself knows that and acknowledges that fact he is not made for gacha games but it pays his bills so he has to and its not easy to change your audience in a day it can destroy his whole channel if he tries to do what you are saying.

@papayapayama2087

20 күн бұрын

@@comfy6327 He already changedis channel from destiny type games and stuff like that once. He knows he can but he is just too greedy for money. He is all about money its obvious at this point. He talks about money how much gacha makes him and so on. He gives up happiness for money. Thats on him.

@sai_neko_reddy

20 күн бұрын

​@@comfy6327brother nobody is deciding here what others should do people are just recommending the best possible action to other people It's up to you whether to follow it or not If I say to you to go and eat chicken wings today did i decided that you should eat it or did I told you to ? 💀

Accusing MTashed of "inserting himself" is ironic as fuck considering this video.

@_thestar

17 күн бұрын

Mtashed did admit he inserted himself tho. Shinya ain't innocent either

i have to agree with mtashed despite him going in a little too hard. I like teccy but his ego and lack of empathy/emotional maturity is starting to wear. He takes NO accountability for any of the shite he stirs.

I think you shouldnt have done that video. Everyone did make mistakes, it was never a friendship between both of them and everyone should move on. I also find it wild how many are protecting tectone because the criticism is true (doesnt make everything else not true), he uses strawman arguments and red herrings a lot, he cant accept that he is wrong a lot of the times and he never will apologize AND mean it (like he said he can acknowledge that he was too aggressive in the debate with hex in her chat after this drama. This is not an apology and hex said "look he publicly apologized". No he didnt and thats the problem, his friends dont even recognize that he cant really apologize), he always demands proof etc but cant even do the same (Its like he has it from his "friend" that he calls ratsu). Or that he says that this one cc did just hate this game and couldnt prove his points.. dude did he watch his video? he proved all of his arguments and thats also what mtashed said to him and what is the argument of tectone? "He cant defend his points or bring arguments for his points" or something like that but everyone who watched this video saw that tectone is just wrong. And what is he doing? He says "prove it" while he says wrong things and doesnt prove it. Its so funny and his community are agreeing with him xD did he apologize for that? i didnt see that until this point of commenting. He is so damn disrespectfull a lot of the time, he has to change and be a better man. And his friends should say him that, but everyone is just agreeing with him. Im not a fan of either of these 3, but i watch some clips and videos of tectone and mtashed from time to time and thats what i get from tectone. No one is perfect but its like he wants drama so he can get more videos and money etc. Doesnt need to be true but thats what his actions tell. The debate with hex for example.. why bring it on stream in the first place? you should know this will happen and guess what, it happened. And afterwards they say they did solve it privately, yeah maybe, but thats too late. We should all just move on. Its so fu**ing stupid drama, its like im in kindergarden. And thats why this and every video towards this or any drama video are unneccessary

@squidman8889

20 күн бұрын

1. Name one (or more) example where Tecone made a strawman argument or used a red herring in this argument. If you can't, it's probably because he didn't. 2. He quite literally apologized to Hex multiple times in DMs, as Hex literally said so herself. He also doesn't have to literally say "sorry" out loud if the other person already acknowledged that he apoligized and forgave him. Also he quite literally has admitted to being wrong and recently too, when he was talking it out with Gacha Smack on a seperate issue. 3. The person in the video that they were talking about quite literally never provided reasoning for their points. All Tec was saying is that he wanted a bit more clerification as to why they felt the way they did. He was not bashing on that guys opinion at all. People just take it the wrong way because they misunderstand that. That's not really on Tectone at that point, although, to be completely fair, it is easier to misunderstand him due to his outspoken and loud nature. 4. "He says 'prove it' while he says wrong things and doesnt prove it." Name one thing he said that that was wrong and how tell me how he should've proved it. 5. I find it hard to say that Tectone was disrepectful to MTashed for mulitple reasons. Firstly, he didn't want to call him to begin with. Straight up. Second, MTashed already lost all respect when he stuck his nose where it didn't belong. Theorycrafting someone else's relationship in front of 2000+ people live on stream for THREE HOURS isn't something MTashed should have done. PERIOD. Also, idk if you noticed, but the entire time Tec was "arguing" with MTashed, he was only repeating MTashed's own statements for clarification, to which MTashed always responded by either saying "no I didn't say that" (even though his exact words were literally clipped by chat) OR trying to pivot onto another point that had no relevance to the conversation at hand. Which, in case you didn't know, is the very definition of a strawman. In fact I would even say all the times MTashed said "you're strawmaning" was ALSO a strawman, because it quite literally had no importance or value to the argument, and was instead a rather silly attempt at attacking tectone's credibility. Keyword there is "silly" by the way. He really did sound like a clown. The only thing I can agree with you on is that it is absolutely kindergarden level drama and should not have happened to begin with. But it did. And yeah, it is dissapointing. It is what it is.

@LuckyUnlucky2

20 күн бұрын

No one is forcing your hand into clicking these videos man, if it's making you this upset you are you're own enemy here.

@Loko05559

19 күн бұрын

​@@squidman8889 1) I'll give you one... Mtashed stream with arguing tectone (29:30 -30:20--). He did not say anything like tectone did like, "so what you're saying is we both did bad things but because my thing is more bad that you're fine?". That is strawman because mtashed did not even say that but because the newer statement tectone made was more easier to attack and it makes mtashed look worse, he wanted to paint it that way as it's 1 = 1. You always should argue or counter what the other side is saying 1:1, not making another statement that looks similar but since the created statement was worse to hear you will focus on that even that's not what the other side is saying. Don't reinterpret other side's argument the way never intended. You must remember that.--------- Another one is (24:40) same video. Mtashed said he's not quitting. But Tectone forces to say that he's "mentally clocked out" and it's the same thing as quitting. He also says it's the same thing as silently quitting". Like he already said that he's not quitting and not even said he's silently quitting. 2) Then that's good 3) What are you saying that the person in the video "quite literally never provided reasoning for their points"? Go watch the original uploader's video and then you'll see that he gave several reasons about his points. The guy also made a video about it recently showing the original video and clarified that he provided reasons. Bruh. 4) I'll give you one. He said that he had Mtashed's back specifically everytime he quits. But mtashed even clearly said that having his back on the video should be at least 95% saying must be (positive? I forgot the exact words he said in this statement). In (27:28) Mtashed says that if anything, the video tectone did made it worse. In (27:47) mtashed says, "can you prove prove the opposite?". Tectone did say "no, that is why it is a point that can be argued". He also said that he can only say the intentions that he have, he cannot prove what happened and did not happen. 5) I'm still going to watch that later and can reply if I have the time 6) Several arguments that you see on Tectone's when he says , "so what you're saying" , is indeed strawman. Because you should argue about what the words the other person say. Do you get that? So even you say that's clarifying, it can easily become a strawman if any words there are twisted or make it worse than the original statement. I watched the video and the clips, although not all, I watched the whole video about tectone and mtashed argument. I even witnessed the time that when mtashed said " it hurts people" but then tectone says about how did it hurt him. and then mtashed gets frustrated and tells tectone that he never listens who he's talking to. And to be fair, there are times when mtashed is strawmanning like when he said that "so what you're saying" some along the way in their argument and some other cases when he says that, he talks about the exact point tectone is talking about. I'm saying that tectone shouldn't use that because it's not how you're supposed to argue. I get it man, I like tectone too. but of course, there are some times that he's not really in the right but that's not to say that the other side has no faults. I also agree in him in several cases such as the enviosity and atsu drama, also the twitter mob against him and even goes to say he's "T word" which is hilarious. But this time, he can also admit some of his mistakes. And of course if we want him to improve, we shouldn't always act blind when he does something wrong.

@squidman8889

19 күн бұрын

​@@Loko05559 1) I'll agree with the first example you gave. The counter to that example though is at 2:15:29 (IN TECTONE'S OG VOD) where Tectone literally plays a clip of what MTashed said verbatem. You can't reword or manipulate a CLIP. Also, the whole "quiting" argument is just complete bullshit. MTash has made several vids saying word for word that he's quitting and then decided to argue why it was bad when Tectone had that title but not when he himself did it. You can literally see his own vid on the screen saying he quit. Teccy only brought up the stupid arguement of silent quitting because MTashed wanted to deny the facts that were, no joke, in front of his face. When you make a silly argument I think it's fair to respond in kind, and I also think that none of that "silly argument" mattered because Tectone already made the point very clear and MTashed was only continuing the topic to make Tectone sound stupid. 2) Yeah 3) After watching that guy's respose video I now fully agree that Tectone was wrong there and that guy did in fact state the reasoning for his points. No idea why Tec didn't want to admit that. 4) I mean I already went over why the quitting thing was bullshit above but the example you provided doesn't really tell me anything about right or wrong to begin with. 5) I find it funny that you didn't comment on this when this point was the reason they got roped into a call to begin with. No idea how people missed that but then again I did watch Tectone's entire VOD twice. Also yeah btw MTashed was claiming (at 2:53:50 in the VOD) that Hex had stockholm syndrome because she was still siding with Tectone despite them having an argument. Do you get how out of line that is?? It's baseless, it's, like said before, theorycrafting other people's business and putting his fucking nose where it doesn't belong. Anyone with a brain can tell why that's crossing the line and I sure hope I don't have to explain it a third time. 6) I once again already adressed this but I'm gonna sum up my point again. I know how Tectone's clarifications CAN lead to a strawman, HOWEVER, when Tectone literally brings up MTashed's CLIPS of what HE SAID there is absolutely no way to twist that around. And also the same thing goes for when Tectone writes things down. He can't manipluate the words on the page when they're already written down. (This was at around 2:50:00 in Tec's VOD btw.) He literally wrote down words on a page and all MTashed did was pivot the topic instead of adressing any point that Tectone wrote down. Also this timestamp that I provided is another example of MTashed blantly denying the thing that HE SAID when HE WAS GETTING CLIPPED ON STREAM. We have the VOD the CLIP the EVIDENCE of him saying things and he continuously says "no that's not what I said." My brother in christ that has nothing to do with Tectone anymore, bro is just straight up LYING in front of EVERYBODY. It's just not a good look. Look, I know that Tectone isn't this perfect human being that gets everything right. But the reason why I'm defending him right now is BECAUSE OF THE FACT that MTashed took his mask off. He crossed many many lines THAT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE. He ADMITTED that Tec was never really his friend. He ADMITTED that he was sticking his nose in other people's problems. He ADMITTED that he took advantage of Tec and Hex's argument to be a SNAKE and BAIT Tectone into this fucking call that never should of happened. And when he says all of these things LIVE ON STREAM, and the chat literally SHOWS HIM THE CLIP of all these things he ADMITTED he did, his response is "NO I didn't say that." I mean come on man. I've seen this happen three fucking times now. If you agree with Tec on the ATSU and ENVI "drama" then you should understand that this is ANOTHER simlar situation where MTashed is being A SNAKE. Plain and simple. Hope that makes sense.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@squidman8889 Dude, only Tectone's community makes a mountain out of this molehill about 'theorycrafting'. If you have a public relationship, public interactions, and a public fights, people have EVERY RIGHT to discuss it, and they will inevitably do so. Making up a new word for it doesn't somehow make it this new and bizarre behavior that only weirdos who don't touch grass do. There is eventually a point where it goes to far, but Mtashed did not cross that line when criticizing Tectone for mistreating his friends during debates he had IN THE OPEN. Tectone has this weird duality where he gets content and money from publicizing every iota of his life and relationships but then tries to use the shield of 'personal life' to get out of negative responses to that.

Golly I hate drama these ppl nvr learn Now imma strap in and watch the entire vid and watch all the content regarding this situation that comes through as time goes on

Bro you're being biased as hell. The moment that proves this is 23:16 which is objectively wrong. Tectone constantly covers genshin and will continue to do so every patch. He literally reacts to every dev livestreams to see if the game got better or not, so he could shit on it even more

@joheras9330

18 күн бұрын

His hate boner for genshin is worse then his hate boner for Envy man will not let go and move on and be a better man.

People are fed up with Tectone's shit and start calling it out. Thank you to Gacha Smack and Mtashed that are standing against his bullshit and put baldie in his place when he's out of bounds.

MTashed brought so much unneeded hate to Hex he doesn’t even realise. He attempted to be white knight and ended up being her #1 attacker.

@malerror7569

20 күн бұрын

You need to remember a few months back when Mtashed was being an asshole to Hex and dismissed her points out of hand. He apologized at the time but I think Mtshashed still doesn't care about her and is just using her to start beef with Tectone.

@sworkie

20 күн бұрын

He didn’t attempt to be a white knight? He watched something that happened on the internet and shared what he thought about it.

@OldManInternet

19 күн бұрын

​@@sworkie Tashed decided to try and use Hex as leverage to air grievances against Tectone. It's debatable if he was white knighting, because ultimately he did nothing that defended her in any way, and ended up making her life more difficult in the process. But it was definitely a dick move.

@faresty7279

19 күн бұрын

​@@sworkieYeah and when the person in question started opposing his opinion he doubles down and keeps disregards her by saying "she has Stockholm Syndrom". I don't know why you people are defending him.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@malerror7569 He was FULLY justified in insulting Hex that time. She called him an idiot and insulted him repeatedly in her video. He dismissively called her 'some chick' and Hex had an absolute cosmic meltdown because how DARE someone call her a chick! How DARE someone SUGGEST something so SEXIST as to CALL HER A CHICK. Don't you know she LOOKED UP TO MTASHED??? That's why she insulted him repeatedly and called him stupid in the video he was reacting to. Because she looked up to him so much! It's so shocking and HORRIBLE he would use the C word like that. It's honestly shocking Mtashed even tried to defend her after she pulled that on him, but I guess that's the way he is, trying to befriend everyone.

I dont think Mtashed is completely wrong tbh. But it was the wrong way to do this and he ended a friendship for a stupid reason imo.

@alexandrem798

20 күн бұрын

I agree it was not the best way to do it, but I don't think he really ended a friendship. There was no friendship to begin with, only some kind of virtual relationship between two persons belonging to the same online community/profession (=gacha content creators).

@sevxone

20 күн бұрын

@@alexandrem798 Still no reason to be enemies :/

@DegenKingYT

20 күн бұрын

Mtashed was not wrong at all here

@kaiipop4762

20 күн бұрын

He really wasn’t in the wrong

@droidmotorola3884

20 күн бұрын

He honestly took the biggest damage in this. not only has he been holding all of this for years and having to act all nice n shit while tectone was just being tectone. he still failed at wherever he was trying to do, gained a bigger hate train, probably lost some viewers, and tectone will still be on his mind for a little while. should have just cut ties on a good way long ago.

This was so biased towards tectone you cut actual context I would say everyone if you want an accurate opinion watch the vod go to the source watching any type of KZread cover the situation isn’t good enough this guy left out so much it’s insane making it seem like mtashed had little to no points.

Here is a comment Tectone deleted along with many other comments talking about the other side. Love how Tectone is just deleting every single comment that he doesn't support him even though it is logical... Wow seems like Tectone can't take L's "Damn he deleted the comment that summarized the Mtashed drama. Here it is, though I don't think it's going to last long: - HexJuice debated Tectone because she doesn't like the way he invalidates negative opinions on the game (e.g., by calling others regards). - Tectone resorts to manipulative tactics (e.g., Straw Mans) and frustrates Hex. - Mtashed notices this and makes parallels to his and others' experience in the past and calls Tectone out for it (among other things). - Tectone gets pissed and Mtashed further baits him to a call. They have a huge argument. - Hex joins in and PLOT TWIST she takes Tectone's side by mentioning how she doesn't appreciate Mtashed white knighting for her. - Mtashed claims he wasn't defending her and was simply voicing his own grievances against Tectone. Hex doubles down that he was defending her (this bit is super weird). - Mtashed and Tectone are left on no-speaking terms. MY OPINION: - Tectone's behavior was absolutely disgusting. From his hypocritical stance om ZZZ to the way he treated Hex who is a supposed friend. Unfortunately for Mtashed, Hex either has stockholm syndrome or is just cloutchaser, but anyone with half a brain who watched the stream could tell that she was genuinely getting frustrated. Tectone was also smirking the whole time while Hex was on the verge of tears. - Mtashed was wrong in two regards. He shouldn't have voiced his grievances in public and shouldn't have taunted Tectone into a call. There was definitely a more diplomatic way of approaching this whole thing. - Hex is just ill."

@alexandrem798

19 күн бұрын

"Mtashed was wrong in two regards. He shouldn't have voiced his grievances in public and shouldn't have taunted Tectone into a call. There was definitely a more diplomatic way of approaching this whole thing." That's what I thought at first, but now I'm wondering if Mtashed didn't also intend to expose Tectone to some extent. I mean, the way Hex reacted is quite telling. I think one of the things Mtashed grew fed up with is the weight that Tectone has in the community and the terror it causes. It's pretty clear that no one wants to be on the wrong side of his attention, therefore everyone (especially smaller content creators) are walking on egg shells when it comes to him. This situation is quite unhealty, which is what Mtashed addressed when he questioned whether Tectone does more harm than good for the community.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

(the answer is clout chaser)

@deionzo9358

19 күн бұрын

THIS

@illusionofquality979

17 күн бұрын

How would you have a comment he deleted?

@DegenKingYT

16 күн бұрын

Screenshot and copy and paste it's easy really

Thanks for the summary video!

Lol if this wasnt a biased video, then im a golden unicorn with devil wings

lol textone is trying to win an argument withought actually using his own logic but portraying the oponents logic as flawed by bringing up points out of context that dont even matter. then he pretends he won. how stupid do you need to be to think that was a logical depate?

@awarnlt2993

20 күн бұрын

A lot of people meme mashed for saying '' you strawman'' '' you argue like trump'' but... It's true

@marethyux3744

20 күн бұрын

And what is wrong with that? It's a logical argument to have during a debate. Mtashed admitted to plenty of his points being wrong and backpedaled each time it was brought up. At that point its on Mtashed and not Tectone. I know Tectone loves to talk about burden of proof is on the accuser but it's true.

@d0minican0milan0

20 күн бұрын

This is quite literally a debate tactic. Don't argue with someone if you cant handle it....100% skill issue

Tashman is right. Tectone not give a single shit about the friendship when it comes to farming drama. Just look at the recent Gacha Smack situation. That whole debacle should be handled in DM's but Tectone chose to make it public and farm drama content out of it.

@TonytonyChopper-wf5cq

13 күн бұрын

I agree with you. I don't know why people put all the blame and lose their "respect" on mtashed when everything started because of tectone's obnoxious behavior and enormous ego.

At what point is the guy thats constantly in dramas and creating drama the one to blame and take accountability.

Btw, saying tectone didnt touch genshin in 2 years couldnt be more of a lie rofl.

@daveys_gaming_corner

20 күн бұрын

He may jump on for a patch for a day but he in fact has not "actively" played it since Sumeru

@CzDelta92

20 күн бұрын

@@daveys_gaming_corner sinze inazuma, sumeru he admit a friend clear content for him and he skipped the entire archon quest to get into fontaine and he just did msq and quit every time

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@daveys_gaming_corner He played all throught the Fontaine quest. He played through the Arlecchino quest. He played the Dainsleif quest. He was going to play the Lantern Rite but then decided to participate in the boycott. He's going to play Natlan. He plays Genshin. He's just a story-focused casual now.

@generaltoszur1036

19 күн бұрын

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit story focused ? did he even play act 3 or 4 of fontaine ? lets not begin a discussion about how bad act 3 was since it was bad but act 4 was amazing , not to mention that he said act 5 was ass and in his opinion dain quest was so bad he didnt even upload it on yt and he also said that arlecchino quest was ass because animation spoiled it , i will admit that playing her quest did fell a bit weird but it doesnt change how good this quest was , all animation showed us was her backstory , and thats it so he shouldnt act like quest was ruined just becuase animation told us that arlecchino had a friend and her friend died but she s present in her quest so its a ghost ( she isnt )

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@generaltoszur1036 Yes, he did. He even posted his stream of watching the Fontaine story with Furina on KZread. He ruined all the emotional moments with crass jokes and missed a bunch of context because he would skim something and then get mad and distracted because chat would tell him he missed something, but he did play it. While he didn't upload the Dain and Arlecchino quests, he still played and reviewed them. His take for Arlecchino's quest is frankly kind of weird. I get it but he went too far. This might be because he never normally watches the story trailers and doesn't know they always spoil. It would have been nice to have more of Arlecchino, as the story was more of a House of the Hearth quest (with bonus Childe closure) than specifically her, but he should have expected as much. She's too secretive.

Support small cc is good but having ego that i made that guy without me he is nothing.. 1 - LolShinya most viewers are tectone viewers? Yes and no - yes 2 - He farm drama - yes 3 - Will not say bad about his father (tectone) - no 4 - He is being unbiased - yes 5 - Tectone is the judge of gacha community and everyone has to answer to him - yes 6 - Whoever disagree with tectone..he attack then -Yes( he did admit it yesterday) 7 - Mtrash bait him - yes 8 - mtrash bring hex was wrong in conversation - yes 9 - tectone abused hex was right - No 10 - TECTONE IS THE ONLY MF WHO SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR SUPPORTING SMALL CC ( evni 2.0 ) TECTONE BAIL GENSHIN AND ARK KNIGHT COMMUNITY FOR HIS FUN BUT BUTTHURT WHEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT.. LOLSHINYA TECTONE MADE YOU - YES HE CUT CLIPS DROM HERE THE THERE AND SHOW HIS TRUE COLOUR..

@ArsevensX

20 күн бұрын

When did he say he needs to be praised? He proved a point that Mtashed blatantly wrong about he doesn't contribute to commumity because he doesn't make guide videos. He showed him that he contributes in different ways.

@PikachuPolice

20 күн бұрын

​@@ArsevensX doing good is good but having an ego for doing it like a favour...stfu

@PikachuPolice

20 күн бұрын

​@@ArsevensXhe did favour for a community? So .. doing good and so PPL owes favour to you

I’ll be completely honest from what I think. I honestly kind of understand Mtashed on his perspective somewhat. From watching the vod, Mtashed tries to say, one of his arguments, when has Tectone defended him. Yet Tectone was about to then pivots to the convo between Hex and him. From a neutral standpoint, this seems such a snappy and snaky behavior from Tectone. The reason why I think this is because even I, as a viewer, look at Tectone’s video on Mtashed quitting. As a viewer I saw the video saying Mtashed should just quit and do something else which is true he admitted that in the vod. However, this did paint Mtashed in a bad light that even I as a viewer can reasonably understand how he feels and Tectone should understand his power of his words much more since many situations he says something that really nobody knows unless offscreen like Mtashed said. Now from Tectone’s side him saying he’s testing his friendship is something no one should ever do as a person to another. He should have left him alone on that regard. Him inserting himself this way was a wrong move and would be costly. He also kept going in spirals on talking and trying to make a point. However, I feel that’s what Tectone tries to do which is why I really do not like his way of talking and arguing. Like said it feels like he tries to make you say something that you didn’t mean and argue that to make the opposing person feeling lost. That’s just my opinion though. Honestly they did both bad and that’s just the way it is that I look at it.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

It's ironic that Tectone says Atsu doesn't know the power of his words but then acts as if he does not know the power of his own words, either.

@enrei21

19 күн бұрын

I think tectone already decided he no longer gave a shit and hated him before the conversation even started. He went into the conversation scorch earth and had no intention on repairing anything.

@motemo8413

18 күн бұрын

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit yeah because it was not the power of his words. him quitting games is a meme made by Mtashed's own fanbase too, not only Tectone.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

18 күн бұрын

@@motemo8413 Tectone made it much worse though, and never let it die.

@motemo8413

18 күн бұрын

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Mtashed accepted the memes and embraced his own persona though, Tectone asked him that if he didn't like it then why didn't he say it and Mtashed had no real argument against that, he basically admitted it himself. he should have told Tectone to stop years ago instead of harboring hatred for him while acting nice on the outside, majority of the fault lies with him at that point

All Mtashed objective points about Tectone are 100% right, but what he did is still weird and envious.

Thanks for the summary!

It sucks that Hex back pedaled and wants to accuse Mtashed of invalidating her when Tectone does it straight up.

@viggo6607

19 күн бұрын

She never backpedaled, she was resolute from the very beginning that she does not appreciate being used as a tool to attack Tectone. Also, she is not friends with Mtashed but she is friends with Tectone. All of us here have real life friends; would you have the same amount patience with a stranger as you do with a friend?

@christophermauro-barias7451

19 күн бұрын

@@viggo6607 she did back pedal though. she went from saying her feelings were invalidated and she felt anything she said would be negated by tectone and his community because thats the kind of weight he says. oh and then when tectone said " you're getting emotional" like what the fuck was that. it doesn't matter that she isnt friends with mtashed. what matters is that tectone was invalidating her feelings and opinions as a person/ content creator and then back pedals and turns it on mtashed. ofc shes his friend. cuz if shes not she gets canceled by him cuz thats what tectone does.

@christophermauro-barias7451

19 күн бұрын

@@viggo6607 I would no be friends with tectone in the first place based on his history with Ark Knights and Genshin and his disregard for those around him. I would not back pedal and stay firm in my opinion. saying" its okay to have an opinion but you're still wrong is so childish. thats not what friends do.

@datruthgt5609

19 күн бұрын

Stockholm syndrome at its finest

@RafaelBelvederese

18 күн бұрын

you said she back pedaled. hex said she didn't (and explained it). omg, who am I gonna believe now??

Honestly I've never really liked Tectone. I can see that he's probably a good person, but his internet persona is annoying. You could make an off-hand comment about disliking the color shirt he's wearing, and he'll make a response vid. He makes mountains out of molehills, while making sly comments about other CCs himself. There's a reason why he gets into so much drama. What's the more likely outcome? Everyone in the CC community is out to get him? OR that his behavior in the gacha CC space is problematic? Dude literally started one of his Gachacast episodes by asking all of his guests what their opinion was on some random twitter drama he was having. Imagine being one of the CCs in the Gachacast group call lol, the pressure to be a yes man and agree with the dude was astronomical. It was so unethical of Teccy to ask them to insert themselves into drama they weren't even part of

Thank you for making this video.

4:20 i have a suspicious feeling, the real reason is because tectone didn't have time to play the game and make the first, ZZZ bad video. I mean to think he would be defending ZZZ especially when a lot of the WuWa community are hating on it, is something he has no reason to do, unless there's another reason. I think he feels HE should be the only mofo who should be getting any praise for calling out how bad ZZZ 'could' be.

@squidman8889

20 күн бұрын

Yeah I know he's such a weird and suspisious guy for having an opinion. He must have an ulterior motive if he doesn't agree with me!!!!! Here's a crazy take: he's defending the game because he likes it. I know it's hard for a 3rd grader to understand, but opinions can, in fact, differ between persons. I know I know, it's mindblowing. Also, he has quite literally had criticisms and negative takes on the game before, so idk why we're acting like he's meat riding the game because he isn't. Hope this helps.

@AnimeRPGgame

17 күн бұрын

@@squidman8889 nope, my options need not be 'invalidated' by you xD .... grow up bruh. He really does have a narc streak in him. If you can't see that, I don't know how to explain. But I used to like watching him, back when his community was full of AYAYA people and the streams were fun. Now its just cringe and toxic.

i just quite not sure during Hex suddenly appear to backup tectone...n she claiming why mtashed brag her into the situation btw the one thing i dont like on this take about tectone...how he get triggered over small cc that do review about zzz while there other people also doin review about zzz n put bad review...but nver get throw hate...i feel bad for Skull the one tectone throw hate without knowin that Skull do respect tectone...i just want a justify for Skull

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

ya it was kinda weird all around. but mtashed during the debacle did show the dms between him and hexjuice when he was arguing with tectone

@Azel49

20 күн бұрын

@@HarzinLolz What were the dms? Right now, Hex is looking like a snake to me

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

@@Azel49 from what i remember hex said to mtashed its all cool between them and mtashed said that " it was on him for misunderstanding" then hex goes behind his back and rides tectone.

@corpse.k3074

19 күн бұрын

Asmon played ZZZ and clearly showed he dislike the game after he spent around 6-7 hours. Now pray to god Tectone goes against Asmon the same way he did with Skull, because it will never happen

@HarzinLolz

19 күн бұрын

@@corpse.k3074 both are too smart to go against each other

Hey man i like mtashed but he had this issue since destiny and my friend and i also played destiny so my friend knows a lil more bout mtashed than i did cause he watched him during his time with destiny, mtashed apperently after quitting destiny he cut off everyone in the community so this isnt the first time mtashed cut off people before quitting a game.

@deiiyulol1407

20 күн бұрын

Ok i watched further.. mtashed is simply mansplaining with hex lmao

i was heavily distracted by the gameplay cause you werent charging the ellen dash attacks and was switching into rina from soukaku's fly the flag instead of ellen 😭

Adding another comment after sleeping on it. Hex and Tectone discussion should have happened off line. That was not entertaining content for me, and I think that's what frustrated Mtashed as well. It doesn't matter if both parties in that discussion knew there was some "hamming it up" for content, it crossed the line at some point into something that felt too personal to be shared with thousands online. Mtashed did a piss poor job of conveying that Tectone is sometimes a debate bro and will cross a line with friends' comfort level (because everyone's line is different) for the sake of content. Mtashed absolutely should have refused a call with Tectone while he was live, because he should have known that Tectone was not going to have a good faith discussion on the subject. All of this should have been hashed out behind closed doors. I just want peace between everyone involved and if that means cutting ties then so be it.

Despite how absurdly biased you were towards Tectone in this representation of the events, I absolutely and utterly agree with Mtashed. Is it absurd to believe that Hex would have an incredible financial incentive to protect her relationship with Tectone at any cost?

@Mrbluefire95

19 күн бұрын

Tectone would notice that from a mile away and cut her off. Do you really think he would respect her leeching off of him?

@datruthgt5609

19 күн бұрын

@@Mrbluefire95 Why not? It helps Tectone validate his claim that he helps smaller content creators.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

19 күн бұрын

@@Mrbluefire95 I'm not of the impression that Tectone would care if you leech off him as long as you still get along with him and aren't being a snake behind the scenes toward him and his actual friends.

@ZharGzozo

16 күн бұрын

Yeah i agree with your statement, but the thing is, if mtashed want to say anything about his feeling, he should just telling him, if he want to make it a public, make it public, he inserted himself to tectone and hex, and hex already telling him don't do that b4 mtash call with tectone. Also testing the friendship 100% dumb But yeah tectone also too hot headed, and hard to arguing something to him And i also agree about this video definitely biased toward tectone. But still what shinya says about tectone is true, he is biased, but don't say tectone is 100% in right thats why everyone say tectone a dick even tectone himself say that

This should have all been done in private, and if you couldn't reach an agreement/understanding then agree to go seperate ways and not interact. Both of them got faults and they are both not innocent in this but mtash shoulders majority of the blame for going public with this about a "friend", at that point things are unsalvageable and the best thing to do is walk away.

You don't need enemies if you have Tectone for a friend

Thanks for covering this

People saying ohh Tectone made lots of smaller channels. These people never even realised that he's making his own army 🗿. 30:45 bruh use your brain you can clearly see what kind of benefits he gets from his army. Go watch eminence in shadow

@Smilehp7

20 күн бұрын

It is true. He knows by helping unknown ppl, he's get followers and they will always feel they owe him something due to Power Dynamic. Tectone isn't dumb

@XenogearsPS

20 күн бұрын

Exactly, also anime is lit af.

@kaanpai4319

14 күн бұрын

Finally someone else who notices this. He created an ecosystem of smaller CC's who provide content for him. These CC's keep making videos in a way that caters to Tectone so he has something to react to. It's an endless cycle of drama farming and unoriginal yapping content that is made specifically for Tectone and in line with his opinions. Mtashed was right when he said that Tectone doesn't do anything for the community. He has zero original content. The podcast he does is so low effort you can hardly call that original. All it is is asking 5 people if they have time for a call and then yap for 2 hours with barley any moderation.

@JAYED3

14 күн бұрын

@@kaanpai4319 i think you and i understand what mtashed was trying to do/ achieve. He was like 🦆 this im done being silent. Then hexjuice took tectone side when she realised oh shi' i small channel will be destroyed if i go against tectone. And you gotta understand that her viewers are tectone viewers since tectone made her big . Then mtashed fall into the biggest egoistic yapper backing him up with another person. Mtashed felt short. Those who have brain cells left sided with mtashed those who had full of 💩 in their brain sided with tectone. Let's talk about my drama with tectone 🗿. I was a big fan of him. Been watching him since 2020. I played genshin for 2 years and i loved that game. Since i dont play games for very long i had endless content in that game so complain for me. But imagine hearing bad things about genshin 24/7 for years effected my pov and i started hating genshin for no reason . After this incident i snapped back to reality and realised what's going on and i immediately unsubscribed tectone

Honestly Both took Ls

@HarzinLolz

20 күн бұрын

facts no one won

@nehalhasnaeen4121

19 күн бұрын

I would say MTashed took the bigger L because of his behavior 1. MTashed did not need to insert himself into a situation that did not involve him in the first place 2. Calling a married woman having stockholm syndrome for a man other than her husband is absolutely insane 3. Openly declaring that you're "testing a friendship" is absolutely fucked up

@joheras9330

18 күн бұрын

​@@nehalhasnaeen4121 Mtashes called out a common issue with tectone thst keeps happenong years later how is that an L? 2: look at this from an outsiders perspectivr and come back and ask that question again 3. Testing friends happens alp the time for mtash this comfirms tectones true colors towerds himself and now he can move on from it.

@nehalhasnaeen4121

18 күн бұрын

@@joheras9330 if anyone’s true colors came out its Mtashed’s lol. Tectone has always said he’s an asshole on stream. And no, testing friendships isn’t a normal thing that happens all the time, the people who do it are toxic as f***. Also, how is this a common issue with Tectone when the only people Tectone is on bad terms with are Atsu, Envy and Zadjeff, who are all arguably much worse people and whom Teccy has reasons to hate? If you don’t get it that’s honestly fine lol. This wasn’t Mtashed’s fight to begin with and he only inserted himself thinking he could teach Tectone a lesson or something, and everything he said in that debate is weird and shitty as fuck. If you agree that Hex has Stockholm you’re just as big of an idiot as he is.

What a great video man. Glad to know what happened. ❤

Thanks for the summary

Ngl tectone and mtashed actually just need a mediator, someone who will force the two to be clear about their points, and not move away from the point until it has been full explained and the two have come to an agreement on who is right or wrong

@osxar7188

20 күн бұрын

does not help that it become 1v2 when hex joined..

@droidmotorola3884

20 күн бұрын

am I wild for feeling like Asmongold is perfect for this? hes one of the people that I've seen successfully win against tectone.

@wiredspider

19 күн бұрын

Mtashed has a place where could come talk to Tectone but he blew that shot when talked shit live for 3 hours.. he’s cooked.

@G0dspeed101

19 күн бұрын

@@osxar7188 It initially started about her. She has her own opinion and she had an obvious part in it since Mtashed defended her when she felt like she did not need defending. A mediator means... That they have are nuanced, it isn't about, nor does it revolve around them. Someone like Asmon would be a perfect mediator tbh. He was very nuanced with the Tectone and Atsu drama DESPITE being Tectone's friend.

@Kuroganemk2

19 күн бұрын

@@droidmotorola3884 Last time on stake on eggs, Tectone made a jab at Asmongold that I noticed. He said something along the lines of 'You being right all the time is kind of your thing.' as if he wanted to imply that there is no changing his mind about anything.

I will say, CCs really need to stop dropping the line of "Oh, Tectone is an amazing friend behind the scenes, most poeple just don't see it." Ths means absolutely nothing to the average viewer, who only sees the bad side of Tectone. If he wanted to be viewed in a better light, he would 100% show that on stream. But he doesnt do that.

i dont think some1 in they right mind would say "you are not allowed to have an opinion. I m sorry those are the rules" and laugh when the person doenst agree with it.

The Tectone drama farmers are planting the drama seeds and growing the drama crops. What happened to the "game" in game communities. This pocket of gaming communities is forever cursed. Tectone The Loud Bald Narcissist Genshin Guy.

well technically you did not act fully unbiased. you can report and not inject your op. Only saying it since you are saying that you are not attempting to inject your op and be unbias. But with all that said points were made. Tec played genshin during version 4.6 and even bought Arlechinno lol I thought that was funny he says he didn't

Thank you for this video, I joined a stream yesterday with tectone, mtashed, and hex arguing and was VERY lost as to why lol

I think Mtashed did everything he was supposed to be against. it was very hypocritical and showed that he wanted to just be seen as a more moral righteous person while the reason people like tectone is that he is AUTHENTIC! he does not pretend to be a good or nice guy like mtashed wants and thats why i love tectones streams /content.

@alexandrem798

20 күн бұрын

I'd rather have a guy who tries to be a nice guy, even if he fails sometimes, rather than someone who doesn't care about being a dick to everyone. Honestly people need to get their moral compass fixed. Tectone is entertaining sometimes, but when he goes after someone he doesn't like he's the worst. Litterally school bully behavior.

@ERBfan01

20 күн бұрын

@@alexandrem798 When he goes after someone its when they deserve it unlike your streamer mtashed who baited him into doing something than blaming him for defending himself calling him a bully is bullshit

@alexandrem798

19 күн бұрын

@@ERBfan01 "they deserve it" damn, it's so childish. Yeah sure, they deserved it because Tectone said so.

My 2 cents: THIS WHOLE DRAME iS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION IMO: Mtashed has been in dramas but he's never been at the center of one (to my knowledge). Tectone is constantly involved in drama so he's better accustomed to it. To me it seemed that Mtashed just reached his boiling point w/ teccy and just aired out how he feels. Sure most of his points came off and rubbed people the wrong way, but that doesn't take away how he feels about how tectone does things. We know tectone is a dick (he admits it himself) but at some point it just gets annoying to most people.

@sai_neko_reddy

19 күн бұрын

@@itzvenny_ but people should have the balls to say he man you are annoying/ I don't like this when you do this to someone in private instead of going ape shit calling people stock home syndrome, snake , and being envious of others growth lmao

@nehalhasnaeen4121

19 күн бұрын

1. MTashed did not need to insert himself into a situation that did not involve him in the first place 2. Calling a married woman having stockholm syndrome for a man other than her husband is absolutely insane 3. Openly declaring that you're "testing a friendship" is absolutely fucked up Defend Michael Tashed all you want, the way he approached this was horrendous and anyone in Tectone's situation would have cut him off immediately.

@kushj9568

19 күн бұрын

@@nehalhasnaeen4121 Dude is replying to everyone with the same points lmao

@nehalhasnaeen4121

19 күн бұрын

@@kushj9568 yeah because they’re all missing the same points lmao

@kushj9568

19 күн бұрын

@@nehalhasnaeen4121 who cares lmao why waste your time on mass replying to people just to "win" some pointless internet drama. You're slobbin on his knob and he ain't even paying you

I think most content creators are going to just side with Tectone on this one because of Clout and views and that's literally it. This video paints a bad light on Mtash and Shinya is just sucking off Tectone like Hex was when the drama was happening. I'm glad Mtash is getting away from this because he is a great guy and one of the best people in the Gacha space and he doesn't deserve what hate he is getting. Shinya, the biased you have for Tectone is so noticeable and anyone who has a brain can notice this.

@livemuse8264

20 күн бұрын

thank god we both arent cc's

@forsakenagony3574

20 күн бұрын

@@livemuse8264 Almost forced to side with Tectone because if you disagree with him he'll make a whole video about you of how terrible you are because you disagreed with the God himself and how dare you do that. 🤣

@rodrigoredomdacosta9797

20 күн бұрын

At first I didn't wanna watch this video because, I knew lolshinya is tectone rider, but then curiosity got the best of me... In the end I watched the video and my suspicions were abruptly confirmed. Even though he had said at 1st this is a neutral point of view, but even I with my small brain can understand how basied this video truly is, and just how this Video points Mtash in a bad light, when a lots of his points are completely right. I was initially a Tectone fan, but then i quitt gachas games for 2 years and came back after WuWa and started watching him once again, but after witnessing this whole drama with Mtash, I stopped following him. I felt like i was actually being gaslighted by that dude, Im not saying Tec is a bad person but he is definitely a toxic person. I'm actually glad that Mtash did cut ties because this "hanging" relationship with him might come back to bite Mtash. Though i do feel bad with all the hate that he will receive due to this, but its definitely worth it in the end.

@forsakenagony3574

19 күн бұрын

@@rodrigoredomdacosta9797 This is why I don't watch it from a biased side and watch the thing myself before anything else. My friend told me that Mtashed had the whole thing on his past broadcast so I sat there and kinda skipped through it here and there. At the end of the day, I didn't want to hear 2 men argue over something stupid for over an hour.. But, it got worse when Tectone was crying for help and was trying to get an opinion on the situation when it's stupid to ask that to HexJuice. She is a huge D rider for Tectone and she'll do whatever he says basically. Even before this happened I knew she was.. Her game plan is yes daddy Tectone and she gets more viewers. But, I almost don't blame her?.. It's not just Hex either it's a lot of people they'll side with him because they're scared that there channels will be in jeopardy if you dare disagree with him especially in a heated moment. If you agree with Tectone = You'll most likely be on his good side and you'll get free advertisement for your YT channel.. But, if you disagree you'll most likely get the opposite because Tectone doesn't like it if you've a different opinion then him. I almost think he does all the good things he does in the space to get away with shit like this. He likes to be a good friend and help small creators and that's great and all.. But, when you do what you did here he can get away with it because he such a nice guy, right? I just think and I could be wrong but he does all these nice things is because he can get away with being a bad guy here and there. "I know I was a bad guy but hey guys I did all this and that to people how can I be the bad guy when I've helped so many people out in the space?" It's just BS for the whole community to deal with such a person that has this much power over a community. It doesn't help that after that whole thing Tectone still thinks he is in the right and I think it's crazy to think that way after what happened.

@rodrigoredomdacosta9797

19 күн бұрын

@@forsakenagony3574 yup 👍, that's also one of the biggest reasons that I'm currently getting far away from his community and gacha community as well, they will keep feeding toxicity to each other as long as this guy reigns in the community which is not healthy... And people with brains are acknowledging that and getting away from such... I sincerely don't want to get close to his community that's becoming more and more like what he hated the most, a guy he usually calls "ratsu". Now thats Quite the irony uh 😂 becoming what u hated most. Pffff xD

Shinya thank you for the context these are both creators I really do mess with and it sucks to see this but when you said Mtashed is crashing out I LOST IT LOL bro really is what is going on man

Good video Shinya, covered the situation really well and I really enjoy your channel. Though the only thing I'll say that I notice throughout the video is that I think you cut off the clips a little bit early and less naturally, just something minor.

Mtashed is so based.

@Everrrrr

19 күн бұрын

The most BASED comment on this entire video

Okay, but not to be too harsh but Mtashed is right about a *lot* of his criticism. I had a huge comment going point by point but I feel like that's just going to get lost in the weeds so I'll shorten it. (a second time, because my first shorten was still long). Tectone admitting that he is a dick is not an excuse to be a dick. His debate tactics are not excellent, they are awful. Although you shouldn't white knight for HexFake when she tells you not to, it is valid to point out that she literally can't say that Tectone mistreats her because 90-99% of her audience are only there because she is The Tectone Simp. Even if it only seems like she backstabs him she will see her audience instantly vaporize. This is not Tectone's fault, but it is true. Mtashed should have dealt with his frustrations with Tectone in private instead of bottling it up until he exploded, but I suspect he didn't realize he was going to go off watching that debate until he did. He then retroactively excused it with the 'test' thing. I absolutely despise that people are never allowed to criticize Tectone or his friends without becoming psychopaths and weirdos, creating this weird dichotomy where you are either 100% in Tectone's camp and you will die for each other or you are 100% his enemy and you have zero friendly contact. It's annoying that using hyperboles like abuse and stockholm syndrome in the heat of the moment gets twisted into literally accusing Tectone of crimes. Both of those words get tossed around lightly and rarely mean the ACTUAL meaning behind them. It's bizarre to me that Mtashed said Hex was agreeing with him not only in his chat but in his DMs and this is just brushed off. I want to see the DMs. I don't trust Hex for a single microsecond, and Mtashed seemed to sincerely believe what he was saying. It would be good to see if Mtashed is way off base or if Hex is a lying snake, because if she said things in DM to support what he said, then Mtashed calling her a snake is VERY justified. "I don't play Genshin" is both irrelevant AND a lie. He still plays Genshin. You don't have to log in every day and do dailies to count as playing the game. He plays just about every major patch or content update and then usually complains about it. He also extensively covers Genshin and cannot stop talking about Genshin even when he's praising other games. He is constantly standing on the side of the Genshin pool dumping a firehose of negativity into it. Even if you imagined that no one who plays Genshin watches Tectone anymore, his fandom will continue to go out and spread his terrible takes (like it being a 'baby game') into the Genshin community non-stop. It is absolutely valid to criticize him for that. You don't have to be positive about a game, not even if you play it, but you don't get to dodge accountability when you're a huge creator by saying "But I don't play it", especially when you do.

@oneofthekindscarf8612

19 күн бұрын

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit you see, the way Mtashed handled this makes it so even if he was right in some ways, he's not going to get off nicely for this. The way he handled the situation was ridiculous, even if it truly was to "test their friendship" is shitty, and friends wouldn't do things to test their friendship unless they really know one another like that Just like how Tectone can still be called out, even if he was right, because of the way he handled the situation, tash can too. Which in this situation it's just hard to believe that doing what he did and expecting tectone to be Uber formal and private about it, especially already knowing how he gets, is fair or called for in the slightest. Idk this drama too well and idk which side is in the right, but it sure as hell ain't mtashed. He definitely needs to take a break off of gacha games or KZread, because he doesn't seem right

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit

18 күн бұрын

@@oneofthekindscarf8612 Mtashed mishandled it by not just taking it to Tectone in private before it got to the point where he boiled over, but that's pretty common in non-confrontational people like Mtashed. It's a rather minor mistake that doesn't invalidate his points at all. Mtashed didn't set out to 'test' the friendship, people are just grasping that and running with it because it furthers the narrative that all people who get on Tectone's bad side are deranged somehow. Mtashed reacted rashly and emotionally to seeing something that to him felt like the last straw in a mountain of straws, and then later realized he'd been rash and decided to let it ride. Mtashed should move away from gacha games because he doesn't like them, but he'll probably be better already if Tectone stops mocking him whenever he wants to quit or take a break.

@oneofthekindscarf8612

18 күн бұрын

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit After seeing the whole thing now, I absolutely am not going to hear you out. He said himself he did it to "test their friendship." He himself made this way too out of hand to purposely try and tear down anything remotely positive about tectone. Tectone is also a damn asshat and needs to calm the hell down, but THAT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT give Mtashed any damn right to act the way he did. If you pick any side in this and say they are in the right or what they did can be excusable, you're biased, and that's it He needs to take a break from gachaz maybe even just quit playing on this genre, because it actually is destroying his mental health to the point where he's just casually lying out of his teeth or backtracking on everything he said mid debate with that baldfuck. The fact you can sit there after seeing this whole thing and convince to yourself that what he did was not just plain out stupid is crazy. I'm just done with this thing. This isn't drama, this is witnessing a person with a declining mental health break and yell and lie on some egotistical person who apparently trolled too much but also did some good, just in a bad manner or whatever

Well Explain Shinya, GG brother👍

I miss when I used to just watch people make videos about games.