Uncle Roger will be proud.

Love Weissman reference! When you sang it at first, I was like "No way this is a coincidence"

Good stuff. I will say as someone who cooks with MSG almost daily that: 1. A little bit goes a long way, and you can overdo it. 2. It is generally not a good idea to use it as a 1:1 substitute for regular salt. When cooking, I often cut my salt with a small amount of MSG to get the benefits without going overboard. Adapting this for drinks, I make a 20 percent saline solution, where 17-18 percent is salt, and 2-3 percent is MSG. Then I use it as any other saline solution.

The recipe for grapefruit super juice includes MSG to replace the glutamic acid. Kevin Kos goes over this in his video. Love the idea of using it instead of saline solution, very original idea

Nice side-benefit of the sub of MSG for Worcestershire is that it makes the cocktail vegetarian or vegan friendly! Since, as you mentioned, Worcestershire has fish in it

Nice spunk today Leandro! Thanks for the history and level talk on MSG- I've long been suspicious of the dubious claims- and I'm highly critical of all foodstuffs normally. This addition makes sense. I even add double salt to my homemade cc cookies! I'll try this in a Bloody Mary just to see if I notice...

THIS is the type of content TV is scared to death of! You are SUCH a great and entertaining host Leandro, I enjoyed this episode SO much, and can’t wait to try MSG in my favorite drinks!

I made a Mai Tai with a combo of MSG and Saline solution and it blew my mind with the results. You could really taste all the elements of the Orgeat

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

🔥 🔥 🔥

Love the singing and throwback to Josh 🤪

Good use, I'm never running out of the bottle of MSG I have but this will help. I do like a little bit of saline in my margaritas since I can't stand rimming glasses, very interested in trying yours next time!

LEANDRO!! This is so interesting!!! The "Exit Strategy" cocktail, which uses a pinch of salt would be a great way to try this!!! I love the salt in this cocktail, so I'm trying MSG in it!!! Great video!!! CHEERS!!!!

Awesome, Always some great information here.

The singing!!! 🤣

Great video as usual. Did you see the list of the world's 100 best bars released yesterday? So many of those bars are doing new and crazy awesome things with new ingredients, whether it's reducing citrus wastage (plus the air miles they build up) and developing new flavours to go with spirits.

Did you consider doing a side-by-side comparison with and without the MSG? I think that would make it a lot easier (and more reliable) to detect the specific changes due to the addition.

MSG is great! Using it, and also acids (lemon, vinegar) can really help a lot when it feels like something is missing. Hot take, msg fearmonging is because xenophobia and anti Asian sentiment. I'm sure someone could write an essay explaining why, and ik there are definitely some videos about it, but a KZread comment doesn't feel quite worth it for me. Only thing that can cause headaches that is known w/ MSG is the sodium, treat it like salt, e.g. make to drink water, and you'll be fine.

@videotasticz

Жыл бұрын

Yup, considering most people have beer or soda with their Chinese food chances are that their headaches are due to dehydration

@nonamenoname1133

Жыл бұрын

It's very telling that it's not a thing with Italian cuisine, given the batty amount of umami and glutamates happening up in there. Italian and Chinese food are both legendary because they learned a lot of the same lessons in flavor with what they had available.

Well, if msg causes headches why in china and japan there isn't a huge increment in headaches? beside, msg is present in high quantity in many other products, like parmigiano, tomatoes or spinach, (and also since it's an aminoacid it's present in every animal protein and derivate like broth and so on), in short, there is no reason to fear msg if you don't exagerate, just like most things. Btw, i'd like to see some gin cocktails made with non london dry gins, if possible

@JohnKelly2

Жыл бұрын

It's also in the human body.

We have a drink at work that takes two drops of msg! It’s a wonder!

I was wondering about this when watching you use saline solution. I make up "turbo salt", which is 90% sea salt, 10% MSG, which I use everywhere I would normally just use salt... I could make a turbo saline solution. Maybe worth a test, straight saline, straight MSG and turbo saline solutions.

Josh will also be proud of that falsetto.

I miss awkward Leandro. Too skilled and confident these days 😉

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Thanks I think?

Oh GEEEZ, saline in a dirty martini? You cray-cray.

i dont have a dasher for the msg solution, any idea what a similar measurement would be in like teaspoons or ml?

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

It would be like 20 drops or so

You should do an AB comparaison of for exemple the pineapple margarita with msg, just saline solution and whitout

Does a cocktail using the five senses tastings exist? It would be awesome to try it!

I really want this video to do well, this type of approach to a video to me is much more important than a recipe video.

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we’ll these videos tend to not do as well for us for whatever reason, but maybe it’ll be a sleeper hit. To me the subject of MSG in a drink may just be a niche subject

I'll have to play around with msg a little. It sounds like it could be substituted for orange bitters in a Dry Martini where the garnish is an olive (but not where the garnish is a lemon peel), and your use of it instead of Worcestershire sauce makes me think it could add value in a Bloody Mary.

Papa Weissman!? In a BARFLY video??? Today's a good day

Mr. Barfly! I have a bottle of The Japanese Bitters Umami Bitters languishing in my cabinet. It's made with kelp, bonito flakes, and shiitake mushroom. Can I use that instead of your MSG solution? Thanks!

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

maybe. could be very different. Make some MSG solution and try them side by side :) let us know

@admiralstiffplank

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEducatedBarfly Mr. Barfly! I made a Margarita with a few drops of the umami bitters tonight, and it gave the drink an amazing depth of flavor. Umami is a secret weapon!

FUIYOH!!! MSG IS THE KING OF FLAVOR

That was a very “Owen Wilson” wow after tasting the MSG Martini.

Great video, Leandro. I will probably try to experiment with it. A question: Why does it have to be filtered water for the MSG solution? Can’t you just use regular tap or spring water? Do you have to use filtered water when you make a saline solution too? Fun fact: In Danish, MSG is called ‘The Third Spice” (salt and black pepper being the other two, although they’re just called ‘salt’ and ‘black pepper’ in Danish, not the 1st and 2nd spice).

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I just use filtered water because that what I like to consume plus there are some off flavors in my local tap water due to the presence of chlorine and other such “purifying chemicals” if you’ve got great tap water then use that for sure

@TheAndreastt1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEducatedBarfly Thank you so much for the reply. Great info! We generally have great tap water in Denmark, especially where I live actually (midwestern part of Jutland). I will just use tap water then, like I already do for syrups. Please keep up with the always inspiring and informative videos! Your videos are a HUGE source of inspiration for me when it comes to cocktails.

Some winners. Thanks.

im honestly convinced MSG will make ANY food or drink taste better not matter what. kinda hard to argue with.

Sweet! Jazz love it! Salud my friend. Cheers!

That was weird…I zoned out for a second to say “oh, I think I’m getting a headache,” right before he says msg is possibly connected to headaches.

Doing Papa proud!!!

is that a japanese shaker? so we should be using half of your shake measurements?

Flavaaaaaaaaaa!

Is it gonna be MSG!? Oh hail yeah!

Hi Leandro! The reason why you felt "chicken soup" in the 1st and 3rd drinks is that both of those contained salt (1st the olive brine, 3rd the hot sauce). I recommend you to try this: If you take a tablespoon of water and sprinkle a few crystals of MSG in it, it will taste horrible but if you add just a pinch of salt, they react somehow, and that tablespoon of water will taste like chicken broth. Odd and really cool at the same time. It would be interesting to see MSG in a cocktail that has no salt and no citric acid in it (like a regular Martini, Manhattan or Negroni), to see if it does anything or it makes the drink taste as disguisting as it does with a tablespoon of clean water.

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

I mean MSG Stands for monosodium glutamate and I tasted the solution outside a cocktail and it just tastes savory. Not terrible at all. Also there is Sodium in MSG so really it already contains salt

@csongorkakuk5871

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEducatedBarfly It is very much possible that there's something in my tap water (high in chlorine, e.g.) that made the MSG taste off. Lol Anyway, great video and thank you for replying! :) I'll definitely give these recipes a try.

@MrOffTrail

Жыл бұрын

I think it may remind him of chicken soup in part because chicken bouillon and ramen packets contain MSG.

I'd be curious about a side by side for this to really see the difference

Owen Wilson appearance at 3:20

Can I substitute chicken soup for MSG?

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

YES … ….. …… …….. NO!

How about MSG in Mai Tai, Negroni, White Russian and other popular drinks where it might be more of a obvious(?) addition?

If you do not have headaches after binging on KFC you have no problem with MSG.

@MrOffTrail

Жыл бұрын

Or Doritos, or packaged ramen, or a million other things. Or food in general, because it naturally occurs in many foods, like mushrooms, cheese, meats, soy, nuts, etc.

Surprised not to see a bloody Mary in this mix but I guess you have to leave some room for us to explore ;)

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

The Gordon’s Brekfast is the sister cocktail to a bloody kinda

Just wondering, where can you find MSG? These recipes look great and can’t wait to try them out for myself.

@RichardHayRickyyo

Жыл бұрын

Any Asian market or good spice store. That is where I see it.

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

I also put a link to Amazon in the description so you can buy some if you want :)

@MrOffTrail

Жыл бұрын

Also Accent brand “flavor enhancer” in your supermarket’s spice aisle, the original red and white canister, is just MSG.

@Styrac

Жыл бұрын

Walmart has it now too if you're in the US

@JohnKelly2

Жыл бұрын

Literally any grocery store

should do head to head tastings

I’m going to try this in a Bloody Mary. I’m a lover of msg not a hater.😂

Msg is connected to headache, pretty sure you're more likely to get a headache from alcohol 🤣 But that might just be my own experience

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

😂 too true!

My favorite Olive Brine is no Olive Brine

Gonna try this in a Bloody Mary!

I don't know why but I think this will make a killer margarita.

@admiralstiffplank

Жыл бұрын

Blanco tequila's got savory aromas and flavors, so I think MSG would be a perfect addition! Olmeca Altos in particular is VERY savory.

@j777

Жыл бұрын

@@admiralstiffplank thanks, that makes sense. I always feels like they need salt but now I want to try this

Where is the MSG Solution recipe?

@Bishoplegaxy

Жыл бұрын

You should read the description again

@TherapyBE

Жыл бұрын

1g msg to 9g water I'd say.

@lewismaclean8849

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m wondering about as well.

@TherapyBE

Жыл бұрын

@@lewismaclean8849 It has been added to the description.

Why in the world are you not doing a side-by-side comparison? Make the same drink twice, one with MSG and one without. Then you can really see the difference.

oh noooooo where's the comment quoting at the start of the video???

Hey Leandro, love the show, and this is a super interesting innovation! I hope that the over-the-top presentation around MSG was just a nod to Weissman, and not something that'll happen consistently. I stopped watching him because he went so far into the meme territory that I couldn't enjoy his actual cooking anymore, and I'd hate to see this channel go that direction.

Uncle roger needs to react to this video

I’ve jokingly referred to MSG as “free radical meat ions” as part of a bacon-adjacent discussion.

uncle roger approve 😂

low key feel like its a preview or request for a colab with uncle roger or joshua

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Just a fan of Mr. Weismann and know he does a whole msg bit so why not just play into it? Although I saw his whiskey video and damn it’s downright shameful. He needs a collab with someone in the spirits world 😂

@eduardoarzola7544

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEducatedBarfly a colab where you both make something complementary, could even be basic like a mexican dish with a paloma

I was going to say the secret is vegemite

I've been using MSG in cooking, it's really easy way to add umami to dishes, but never thought of using it for cocktails. Edit: Just thinking out loud more, if the basic flavors are salt, acid (can be added to food easily with citric acid), sweet (sugar), umami (mgs), then what kind of spice would add bitterness? Also isn't hot one of the flavor as well, it an be added with pepper.

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Well spice equates “hot”

Cool video, please have a comment

It's not a margarita if there's no liqueur...

uncle roger would be proud

YESSSSSSS!!!!--------------------->1st!!!

Uncle Roger would be proud

I gotta tell you, mate: brilliant as Joshua is, I unfollowed him due to that precise type of expressions/attitude. I get the reference and it makes sense, but goodness was one of your best videos content-wise a chore to get through. Cheers on great research & experimentation.

Not sure. To me using MSG is like "cheating". And once you get used to these amplified flavours it's hard to go back. I'd leave MSG to chinese restaurants.

you're pithing me off

channeling Joshua Weissman....

Not a fan of the click-bait style title. I want to know what I'm going to watch.

@planecrazyish

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣👏👏👏👏

Big energy today i dont like it

I'm autistic and added MSG causes me migraines, dry mouth and tachycardia and a general bad mood. I've stopped eating things with added MSG, such as chinese fast-food (which I love) and some frozen french fries.

Please stop singing.

@TheEducatedBarfly

Жыл бұрын

Nope. I won’t