What an improvement. Thank you so much for making this video, my performance around New York was awful beforehand seeing a max of 15fps, now its at 35 (fps locked at 36). Outstanding, subbed!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the update and thank you for the comment 👍 😀

I want to thank you for your work on this. Worked great. I have added between 5-10 FPS in VR which has enabled me to add to the render scale and thereby the quality. I am on a 3090 and a i9-10900k. I have noticed it has done a good job reducing anti-aliasing/shimmering in the mid range, which kind of broke some of the immersion. Still there but its better. So thank you again for all your effort here ;-)

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome thank you very much for the comment 😀 glad it worked for you

Watched both your videos on this and can report MAJOR jump in smoothness and about 5-10 fps generally so far. Back on FSX with Win7 I was very much a clean safe mode driver install guy every time so nice to start that again now with Win11, def makes a huge difference cutting all the "GF experience" bloat out. Thanks

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear thanks for posting your results 👍 glad this worked for you.

@Drmerlin604

2 жыл бұрын

I am happy to confirm the same results!

Wow, I am so impressed with how much better my VR is in msfs! It made a huge difference on the smoothness of the flights. Thank you so much!!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome 😀 glad it worked for you .

I just posted this on Overkill's site to thank him for promoting this video. This worked great (and unfortunately the two words that follows are the most hated in FS circles...) "for me". I used to fly around Los Angeles, but somewhere around SU8, I started getting severe jitters, and my FPS sometimes dropped to 10-15 when at an airport. I gave up and started flying out of Seattle, which is still a bit jittery but not as bad. I followed your advice and got a jump to the low 40's at Burbank, which is where I had really bad performance before. As others have mentioned, it could simply be the deinstallation of GEForce Experience and/or the clean install that did it more than anything else, but wow... this allowed me to increase my OLOD and TLOD also where I had to reduce them because of the jittering. You sir, are a steely-eyed missile man!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Lol love the comment thanks very much and ps sorry for the late reply

@jJustPlayingNZ

2 жыл бұрын

I had 10 x nVidia containers, however, I couldn't see that any of them were using grahics resources in task manager. I uninstalled GEFORCE Experience and I only had 2 x nVidia containers but I didn't get any improvement in FPS flying in Cessna 152 from City Airport London. I am running i7 and RTX 2070S non-VR 2560x1440 with all FS2020 settings maxed out. I will try the full set of steps sometime to see what happens.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

That's really strange. But it does affect everyone differently thanks for the comment

Wow, thanks very much for taking the time to put this tutorial together. You're right, a complete game changer and definitely the best tweaks I've ever made for MSFS.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment I'm happy this helped you 😀

There have been many videos claiming to improve MSFS and VR performance, so I was sceptical when watching this video., however(!), following the steps in this video really improved the VR experience. I am amazed at the improved FPS and visual quality the *hack* NVidia driver and the OpenXR toolkit gave. Thank you for the video.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the comment 😀

The best tutorials I've seen on the subject. A week ago I bought a 3080ti and was disappointed to find that it only managed to get 15fps in New York. I have followed your recommendations and the improvement is impressive: 34fps and I have some settings higher than yours. And I still have to make the OpenXR settings. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome . That's how we all get better by each of us spreading the knowledge around. Thanks again for the post

Well well well. Finally someone who knows what he's doing. I followed your video to the letter. Jumped from 25fps to 41fps. No more stutters. My rig consists of i7 4790, 16gb Ram, RTX Quatro 4000 8GB Graphics running 3440 x 1440 at 144 Hz. If you ever come to Western Australia I'll buy you a beer or two. Thanks Mate. You have a new sub.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so much I'm happy this helped you .. thanks for the sub . My wife and I have always wanted to visit Australia maybe 1 day lol thankS again .

I was in the 20-25FPS range and now I’m at 50+! Thanks for the great video!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awsome thanks for the comment glad it worked for you 👍 😀

I was running 4K already smooth as it was, i came upon your video after a recommendation and i must say...it's definitly made it smoother. I can bump up a few other settings with this too! Came in super handy, made my sim more eye candy

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great that's fantastic thanks for the comment 😀

😄Thank YOU! I watched the entire video and carefully took notes and screenshots. I can say that I certainly appreciated it, but I have to laugh because it wasn't until the end of the video, when you mentioned that the Nvidia Icon in the system tray will "No longer show the GeForce Experience", that I realized my Nvidia icon doesn't show the GeForce tattoo! I then remembered that I never installed any of those options! I suspected them to be bloatware back then and decided not to enable any of them. Therefore, I already had the GeForce Exp 'out of the picture', but I haven't tried FS 2020 since I've installed it (just recently) because I wanted to get all my 'ducks in a row' first. I've been a long-time FSX Flight-simmer for about 9+ years and was aware of what all those little 'free options' could do to a system, (even to the ones that I custom-build). Still, there were some steps that you showed in the video regarding selections made before installing the driver (like, "Enable DLSS Indicator" or "Show Expert Tweaks", etc.), that I'm sure I never selected when I installed my 3080Ti. So, I plan to try going w/o using this procedure and if I experience any issues that you said your video addresses, I'll just go on and do it! I know that it wasn't a waste of my time to take all those notes and screenshots because I may need the notes anyway. If not, well, I learned something and that's a "plus". Thanks again, Rich

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Hey Rich thanks for the comment .. sorry it won't help to much because you were smart already to not install GeForce 😉

Thank you so much! before I did the stuff in this and your other video, I could only run msfs on vatsim with low settings and vsync set to 20 fps and if I tried to set it higher it would ctd when I ran vpilot, but now I've been able to play on ultra with it set to 60 fps and I'll get like 40-60 fps with no stuttering or ctd when using vpilot

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the comment 😀 glad it helped you

Dude, thank you so much. I've had such great results using this method, combined with the OPENXR toolkit. Best VR performance so far. FYI, I had like 13 processes before and now I have just the same you have. It really was a game changer for me. Thanks again man. You rock.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

i really appreciate the comment and i am so happy this is working for everyone. Its crazy when you see all the extra processes in the background from nvidia and the lag it causes ugh. don't need to worry bout that anymore lol happy flying !

Thanks for the Nvidia Performance Hack. Really didn't increase my framerate that much in MSFS but your previous video regarding the adjustment of the Nvidia Control Panel did make a big difference. Increased my framerate by 40%. Getting back to the performance hack; it did unexpectedly fix an issue I was experiencing with Adobe Photoshop for the past three months. Photoshop stopped working because it did not recognize OpenCL. After extensive troubleshooting with the help of both Adobe and Nvidia customer service yielded zero results. I was about to give up when I saw your video in regard to the Nvidia Performance Hack. After running the processes outlined in your video, I decided to try ONE LAST TIME to try and run Photoshop. Voila, Photoshop opened without error and the OpenCL file box was checked. I can now use photoshop thanks to you, my friend. Keep up the good work regarding MSFS. Your performance instructions are a true boon to all Flight Simmers.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome to here that . Thanks for posting this.. now you can use photoshop !

Mate thank you so much I went from 15-20 FPS at Heathrow now I get 40-50!!! Legend mate

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

great to hear thanks for posting!

Excellent. Thank you. Very clear to someone who's IT challenged.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great thanks for the comment

You are a hero!!!! Send Overkill Simulations a nod as he’s bringing his followers to you!!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I know ,I commented on the post he made and really he did not have to do that but I really appreciate that he felt the need to do so. Great guy

Thanks !! This truly helped a lot for my streams! Appreciate the video and a very thorough explanation!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome thanks for your comment 😊

This was Perfect, along with your previous video. I am working with an ASUS Prime Z690-P mobo, i9-12900K, Gigabyte RTX 3090, and 128GB DDR6 ram, and this helped tremendously!!!!! with my system i couldnt figure why MSFS wasnt all i expected.... turns out its all in the details aka settings. i am in love with my Reverb G2 AGAIN.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy these helped you thanks for the comment

I have a very similar system to the one featured in the video with a Reverb G2 - I have rear projection on in XR tools - the VR framerate in the latest landing challenge went from 30 to 46 after I followed this tutorial - highly recommended!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you for taking the time to post this . I'm happy this worked for you.

@moleisrich1

2 жыл бұрын

Sweet- can’t wait! Rog strix3080ti coming in the mourning!

@icecold9511

2 жыл бұрын

Hands shaking in anticipation when I get home. Must get better frames in msfs and DCS. It is amazing how wasteful these people are towards their own hardware and drivers. I remember when drivers were drivers only.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great 👍 let me know how it goes . Thanks for the post

@casstephens3124

2 жыл бұрын

You know? Since I got my G2 last weekend, I havent ONCE looked at my FPS. I have no idea what it is.

Couldn't get any FPS boost, however, it does feel smoother. Also, good to learn about Nvclean, and the process, thank you, subscribed.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks a bunch ☺️ the main take away of the de bloat is the smoothness some people get an fps boost others don't. But hopefully it will be smoother flying for you .

@icecold9511

2 жыл бұрын

Tip, if you haven't used the tool program. I've been testing reducing resolution. G2 is way over sampled. I reduced it to 80% with no loss of quality. Your brain may try to tell you it looks worse, our human nature greedy for eye candy, but you can pop back and forth out of VR and disable the tool. You'll see no real loss of quality. It's just things you were ignoring as normal stand out when you are looking for flaws.

I really want to thank you so much for this I have a 2080 graphics card and run VR mostly what a difference this has made I was running in the 35 FPS and now I'm in the high 48 to 50 FPS

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

That's such great news thanks for posting your results 👍 😀.

I was getting micro stutters, especially on short final which would cause hard landings. Something that shouldn't happen being that I run a RTX 2070 Super and AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core processor. After following this tutorial, i flew over NYC from JFK Intl without ANY framerate drops or stutters! With every graphics setting cranked to the max except shadows set to 1024. For whatever reason shadows seem to hit this game regardless the PC horsepower. I simply cannot believe Nvidia bloatware caused all the problems I was having. Shame on them!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

fantastic glad this worked for you and thanks for posting

I have gained 15-25 frames in VR in DCS !!!!!! cheers mate!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Wow so happy this is making an improvement across other vr Sims I also heard the same for train Sims. Thanks for posting

Changed the game for me completely. 50+ fps in the Fenix Block 2, PMDG 737, and FSW Lear, in complex high resource areas like LAX, Vegas, NYC. Thank you.

@2020fsers

4 ай бұрын

Your welcome thanks for the comment 👍

Thank you for this! Felt the boost in performance immediately on all my games. :D

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

That's great thanks for the comment 👍

Thanks very much for putting this tutorial together.

@2020fsers

11 ай бұрын

Your welcome thanks for the comment 👍

Hi Thank you for this tutorial and the time you have spent producing it. I have followed your suggestions and the sim looks pretty good. I now have an issue in that when I open another program, little nav map. Navigraph, discord etc my fps drops from 35/40 down to 15. I have not had this problem previously. I guess I need to roll back some of the settings in Nvidia, but which ones?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

That's strange when it happens what does the fps tool say you are limited by. Removing GeForce from the driver should not cause this issue. What I would do is hit the restore button in the nvidia control panel and start by changing 1 thing at a time and see what you get. Thanks for the comment 😀

@realdon67

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsersHi, Not running VR and "limited by main thread" I restored the Nvidia settings and the issue is solved. I will go through the settings 1 at a time. The good news is I have a performance increase by following the DDU/NV clean install of about 10fps before even adjusting the Nvidia/Cfg file/Windows settings 👍I am running on a i5 with a 1080ti so my processor is always going to be limited I guess . Is it ok to adjust the Nvidia settings with the sim running?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Ok that is better news. No you cannot make changes while the sim is running and that's why this part could take you a while. But when you find out what caused the issue can you let me know so if someone else has the same issue I can advise them. Thanks again .

@realdon67

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Hi , so after applying the suggested Nvidia settings 1 at a time the problem occurs after setting the Background Application Max Frame rate to on and 30. This causes an immediate reduction in frame rate down to 15 when any other application is opened. Now off and all good

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great good news I never use that setting .

Many thanks. This video and the previous one has been superb. Keep up the good work.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

very welcome thank you for the comment

After watching both of your videos on increasing the graphics performance for MSFS, I have to say I was quite impressed with the FPS increase I would the game runs at least 20-25% better, it's like my GPU is on steroids now. I was quite skeptical at first thinking this was another video of someone selling snake oil, but I was clearly wrong. You have gained me as a subscriber now, that is for sure!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I use snake oil in my hair 😆. Jk thanks very much for the comment glad it helped you.

Judging by the comments this tip actually works so I'll have to give it a try. What I find nearly unbelievable is that a graphics card company would add sfuff that diminishes the user experience - and so dramatically too! Incredible! And as someone else already said, shame on them.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment please let me know how it goes for you . 😊

Great video detailed and very well explained. I guess when new drivers come out for nvidia you do the whole process again. And by the looks of it, it will help with most if not all games not just MSFS. Q) fairly new PC, and I've never installed Geforce Experience and just installed the drivers, I only have 2 containers in my task manager, do I need to go through all this process ? Will it actually benefit me much?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

You will probably benefit from the ddu but not really if you only have the 2 containers. And yes you would do the process over on new updates

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment 😀

Doing this not only made my sim run wayyyy better but It also fixed my crash to desktop issue! Thanks!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome thanks for the post . Glad it helped you

I've been using DDU for years. And it already gives you a safe reboot option and an option that disables windows to automatically update the video driver after the next reboot. So you don't have to worry about internet connection if you check those options when you start DDU All in all a great video The rest of what you described, I just intend to try. Thanks for the detailed explanations in both videos

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment I also saw those boxes to check but I don't like to rely completely on software so I do some things manually just to make sure all gets done I think I did check the no updates box but as a safe guard I still turn off internet . Thanks for the comment 😀 hope it helps you .

You can do Control + Shift + Escape to open the task manager directly without having to go to the blue menu.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

great info thanks

@piggypiggypig1746

2 жыл бұрын

well, you learn something new each day. ta

@joyceracing99

2 жыл бұрын

Or right click on the start button and click "Task Manager".

@Muckylittleme

2 жыл бұрын

I always used ctrl/alt/del or did it change for windows 11?

@keithpetersen9196

2 жыл бұрын

@@Muckylittleme that goes to the blue menu, where you then have to click open task manager. Ctrl+shft+escape opens task manager right away

Wow, this really has made the 30-40% performance increase (I've also followed your other videos for OpenXR and other VR settings). Flying a helicopter I'm now able to fps of 35-40 with quite high quality settings. But what was even more of a surprise, was that with low quality settings I could use VR with fly-by-wire A32NX getting fps of 30-35 (sometimes higher). I'm using an RTX3060Ti and Quest 2 from Oculus One small problem is that I've noticed that the upper left segment of the left eye is blurry sometimes ... like looking though a glass bottle. What might be causing this (it's strange to me that it's one segment of one eye)?

@2020fsers

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment happy this helped. You may need to mess with the ffr in the openxr toolkit . You can turn ffr off and see if the blurriness has gone away if so then you just need to tweak those numbers probably the vertical and horizontal offset.

@jonathantill6691

7 ай бұрын

Decided to leave FFR off completely. May come back to it later. Still amazed that I am getting 35-40 fps with VR in the A32NX (after thinking that the NVIDIA GPU and Oculus Quest 2 would not cope and had been a wasted investment). Really recommend your guides to anyone struggling with VR (and with a NVIDIA GPU). Thanks again

@2020fsers

7 ай бұрын

@jonathantill6691 your welcome

Awesome work. Added about 5fps in and around some of the detailed areas i fly in. Thanks so much.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🙏 thanks for the comment

What a Chad for sharing this stuff man. This is night and day difference on my system.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment.. happy this worked for you

Can I put this video on community post on my channel and give you credits? Good one and I'll try it out later :)

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Sure thing 👍 thanks for asking anything to help the community

completely useless without metrics compared before and after...

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Not really as my metrics will be different from yours as well as all the other settings that you may have different than mine and your system is most likely different than mine . The only thing you can go on is mine and all the others comments about the performance increase like i said in the video i didnt take a before video because i didnt think there would be a difference at all, suprise to me. So you could try it and benefit, probably pretty well or don't and continue using as you are your call.

@shodancat1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers placebo effect is a very powerful thing.

Before I writing my comment, I went to see what others have said, and it sounds like I am only echoing the thoughts here. What a difference these steps made for me!! I think a party should be hosted in your honor for sharing these tips, and for anyone who gets nervous by this process, it was not nearly as painful as I expected it to be... and considering the outcome, it was MORE than worth it!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the kind words. I'm happy that this worked for you 👍 😀 thanks again

Bloody brilliant. Thank you so much. Might be a faff to do but certainly worth the end result. Thanks again.

@2020fsers

8 ай бұрын

Very welcome thanks for the comment .. I will be doing an update to this as some settings have changed in the programs . Glad it helped you .

Want to greatly thank you. Between this video and your bar video I have boosted my FPS from 35-45 to 65-90 In MSFS2020 VR. Max resolution oculus quest 2, rtx 4080, i7 11700k.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

That's great .. thanks for the comment enjoy vr 😀

Overkill simulations recommended your channel about a performance boost, and I can't believe it actually worked. On my rtx 2060 + i5 10300h 16gb ram, I used to get 15-30 fps with a mix of high, ultra, and medium settings; currently, nearly all settings are in ultra, and I get a stable 30 fps (on laptop). Thank you for this tip.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome glad it worked for you thanks for the comment 😀

@EasyyNikk

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Just wanted to warn other laptop users like me that might experience what I had, high battery drain. This method worked to bring smoother and higher fps but I recently noticed when I unplug my laptop to use on battery, it was quickly draining. From 7 hours of battery use to less than an hour. I did a clean install with the latest driver but the issue still persisted. So I did DDU again and then clean installed just using the normal Nvidia method and installed GeForce experience and now my laptop battery is back to normal, lasting 7 hours. I would recommend this only to people who don't use their laptop battery and desktop users. Had to sacrifice the fps gains and smoothness for my battery. 🥲

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this info I do have a work around if you want to try it. Run the ddu again and then run the original driver from nvidia run the setup select custom install then make sure to not select GeForce experience. This application is not 2hat caused your battery draw it is other parts of the driver that we don't install using the nvclean so this way should work for you .

Wow...Thank You very much for this great Tip. I make it like You Show and it works perfect! On my (Not so fast Laptop with GTX 1650) and on my Desktop with RTX 3070 the Performance get about 10FPS better than bevor. (With latest NVidia driver). Thank You. 👍👍👍

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome thanks for the comment 😀

Amazing how much of a difference this made, thank you!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome 😀

I do VR... but mostly xplane....but getting my ROG STRIX 3080ti tomorrow! Can’t wIt to try it out with your settings. I can’t stand not being in VR so I mostly fly xplane. Thanks for your efforts. I’ll be watching tomorrow night after new video cars is installed!!!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey that's always a great day with a new gpu. Let me know how it goes thanks for posting

@GizmoMaltese

2 жыл бұрын

Well, you do know that MSFS 2020 supports VR?

@moleisrich1

2 жыл бұрын

Yea but VR IN MS is awful. Even with a 3080ti. I am smooth as silk on ultra settings

I allready had very good Performance on my gtx 1080 but this just made it even crayzer, thank you Brother :)

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🙏 I'm so happy this has worked for so many . 😊 thanks for posting .

I am completely amazed by this. I’ve been so frustrated by my vr speed and graphics. I’ve now got nearly wide open graphics with 45 fps. Thank you so very much.

@cameroncatrett5671

2 жыл бұрын

Also, I’m running an asus motherboard, RTI 3080, 32 4DR and the I7, so I had no idea that this was even possible.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the comment

This worked like magic. Don't know how to thank you . Please keep up the good work

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much 😀 glad it worked for you

I came here from @OverkillSimulations channel. Great content and I will certainly be using your tips here later when I am able to flight sim. Thanks much for the effort you put forth in this video and the time you took to do the work for everyone! Cheers!

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so.much for the comment 😀 let me know how it works for you

@normanbyrne9868

Жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers So I went through both of your videos and I feel that I should've stopped after this one and checked the fps before adjusting my gpu settings (your other tutorial). That said, I'm going to have to go back and reset my settings as I'm getting 60+ fps while flying in the Alaskan bush but that said, the natural beauty is now very cartoon-ish and awful. Then while flying at JFK it dropped way down to the high teens and was pixelated in areas. So I'll have to take some time and go back through the settings in both the sim and gpu. I'm using a lowly Nvidia 1070, btw. Thanks again for these great tutorials, I'll let you know more after making adjustments.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Yes you don't want to make to many changes at 1 time this way you will know what is doing what .

@normanbyrne9868

Жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers actually, it was nothing. My dumbass forgot to reset the monitor settings on my gpu after reinstalling the nvidia drivers. HA! Everything looks great now. Not seeing too much increase in fps but I did also sharpen the terrain and objects a bit within the game so I'm sure that's it. All looks great now also with the coloring. Its not as washed out looking as it was before and is a bit bluer now. Thanks so much for these tutorials. The next one will be organizing my addons. Thanks again for the work and effort you've put in here.

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

You very welcome and I am happy you got it figured out happy flying . 😊

I don’t have MFS but have tried this with both automobilista 2 and assetto corsa competizione and amazingly I can run both in 4k with my Graphics card Nvidia GeForce Gtx 1080 Ti card where previously it just wouldn’t be playable. Thank you for this.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear in had no idea it could be useful on other platforms. Thanks for posting.

Always good to remind people about doing this, I've been doing this for years. Thanks

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Man I was missing a lot lol glad I made the move . Thanks for the comment

@icecold9511

2 жыл бұрын

Does the same software keep working, or constantly having to hunt down updates. I hate all the waste they create to 'help' you. Help me by not bogging it down with garbage.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

You have to download new drivers from.nvidia . That's all I would say you probably don't need to run ddu every time but it's a good idea . If you don't make sure you check clean or fresh install in the nvclean install program .

This is definitely an intriguing video--learned something new I hadn't noticed (all the extra instances) or knew was out there before (Nvclean). My system showed about 6 instances of the driver running initially and had heard before that GeForce Experience was generally a parasite on one's system... so was excited to see how much boost I could get. I'm now down to the 2 instances like what you show in your video, but my frame rate has dropped about 5fps... granted I probably didn't do a great job of isolating the exact conditions (just same airport, and altitude with the drone camera); but perhaps with live weather, I had more clouds in the scene after using the Nvclean compiler? In any case, logically it seems one's system should perform better with less overhead running... So, thanks for the tip!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey your welcome also if you turned on raytracing in the config turn it back off and see if that gives you the 4 fps back.

@SkyborneVisions

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers I had raytracing on both before and after--using same settings from your other video... but thanks for suggestion.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Sure thing just trying to think of anything that may help.

Hi there. Thanks for your time on this. I wondered if you could pls give me some advice - I’m getting terrible shimmering on buildings etc in VR. I’ve changed sharpening to 0 but it’s still bad. 3090 card with your settings and an Aero VR headset. Thanks 🙏

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Ok in the nvidia control the texture filtering option turn both off . Trilinear and anisotropic. That will help but I still get that shimmer almost an over sharpening or aliasing on object it weird. Also try setting anisotropic filtering to 16x in nvidia panel instead of in msfs2020. Let me know if any of this helps

Awesome!!! Worked like a charm. Thanks so much for this!!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome thanks for the comment 😀

Gotta say after trying so many different things to get my performance up to no avail this is the only thing that's worked for me...fantastic!

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you thanks for the comment 😀

After both Videos...and upgrades...although my framerates did not improve...FS is MUCH smoother and better looking !!! Thank you SOOOO much.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear some users get an increase in frames and some don't but the common theme is smoothness I'm glad this helped you 😀 thanks for posting

I am running a 1080 with 7700k an 32 gig ram. I did half of what you said in one video, I went from bouncing between 12 and 26 fps to a solid 31. Thanks man I’m gonna keep going with these

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome 👌 thanks for posting this 😁

@Cyge240sx

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers happy to help. Btw I spent the entire night flying the FA18 in the new activities I am close to world top10 on th low fly missions

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I've been trying to just rank in those challenges lol.

Thanks for the video (found it through PMDG forums). First question that came to mind though, is how do we update the video driver? Is it the exact same procedure or is there a different way (faster) to update?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I just updated yesterday and used the same process . It really it's to vad once you do it a couple times . The ddu is very crucial to make sure all previous versions are removed and the registry is cleaned . Thank you for the comment I hope it helps your siming

I type in ms config, open system settings, click boot and tick the box to boot in safe mode, loads quicker than your route, once in safe mode before doing anything else I go back to the same system settings and un tick boot in safe, then run DDU. I've recently got a reverb G2, so I'm definitely going to try this, thanks for taking the time to show how to do it.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the tip 😀 appreciate the comment

I can't wait to try this! I have stutters in VR that I can't get rid of, I have tried everything, and this is on an i7 10700 with a 2080ti that scores over 15,000 in Time Spy, so it should be pretty good! Unfortunately my whole family has Covid at the moment, so I kind of feel like crap, so it may be a few days before I get to try it. I will let you know the outcome when I do!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment 1 thing I can advise before you make changes is to mess with 1 thing at a time so if something happens you don't like you will know. Like make changes in the msfs first. Then maybe the nvidia panel test again then do the debloat and test again .hope this helps you

Thank you so much, i now have proper graphics like i see all the time on other peoples stuff, hahaha, 3060 amd ryzen 7 3800x, 32 g ram, HUGE increase in everything!!!!!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great thanks for the comment

Great Job!, very THOROUGH and PROFESSIONAL. Wish I could find someone on here that can run through X-Plane 11 like you have with MSFS 2020. If you know of anyone, pass their sight my way. Thanks. Again, GREAT JOB

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. If I find anyone ill let you know 1 person I do like to watch is maverick he's awesome 👌

@edwardwright5464

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Thank you Sir for the quick response. I subscribed to your channel even though I don't fly MSFS 2020. I bought it, and tried it, but was having so much trouble with it, I just finally uninstalled it. after watching some of your detailed videos, I might reinstall it and give it another try. Thanks Again

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

It really is great and I can help you with whatever you need . Also stop by the Facebook group their you can share pics and videos if you have issues . It's a great community of fellow simmers all willing to help out and no negativity . Unless a sim update lol just kidding 😂

Thank You, Amazing!!. On my RTX3080 with Reverb V2 ULTRA/HIGH setting FPS increased from 23 to 34! When you in the Netherlands I own you a couple of beers!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks I really appreciate it 😊 im happy it helped you.

On further testing I'm getting about a 10 to 15% FPS increase (I'm continuing testing). I also watched the "BEST Graphics Settings For SIM 9 Update" video and performed the recommended NVIDIA & Sim Graphics Settings. Since I have an I7 processor I did try VSYNC setting off/on...did not seem to make a big difference, but this is the first time I've had anyone of the Graphics Performance videos suggest anything but VSYNC OFF. I've always found that TERRAIN LEVEL OF DETAIL seems to be the parameter that FPS is most sensitive to.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment glad it worked for you . Always nice when you can tweak out a couple more fps .

​ @2020 fs'ers That's Perfect. Followed you step by step and also changed the settings from your part1.. Its amazing dude.. I used to have around 25fps on my menu screen and BOOM now i have 50, used to have 20 - 24 on ground or at gate ..Now having 30 - 35 with ease and at around 35 - 40 while flying (Pretty enough for a flight sim with live traffic and moderate ground traffic settings)... :) Love your work my friend.. Appreciated. :)) Thanks A small confirmation, Shall I continue the steps from NV cleaninstall for a new driver release right?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so so much for the info you posted on your results it really is amazing . So to answer your question yes you would do the same process on further updates to the nvidia driver . 😀

@krishnabhaaswanth9534

2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to give you an update.. My specs are.. Asus tuf gaming a15 Ryzen 7 4800h 8 cores 16gb ram GeForce 1650 4gb vram Msfs 2020 running from 1tb internal hdd Note: For my device.. Using Ray tracing (making the value to 1 in cfg) is causing a drop of fps by 2 to 5 frames. Turning Ray Tracing off is giving me the above fps (as in the previous comment I have posted) Hope this might give you an idea of what laptop users can observe... Just FYI.. Thanks..

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

ok great thank you for posting this i will now have to experiment with raytracing again and see if i am also getting an fps hit . asobo keeps changing how things react in the sim and we have to constantly re check everything to see how the settings react again with updates.

what a game changer in VR, came here thanks to "Flight Simming Guy's World Travel in VR" tutorial, it blows my eyes!!! Thank you so much !!!

@2020fsers

8 ай бұрын

Your welcome thanks for the comment

Thanks for the advice, I have had mixed results, I first done this on my 3090 desktop and 💯 see an improvement. After the success on the desktop I went on to do my 3080 laptop but the laptop see a substantial decrease in performance. Very bizarre. I will continue messing with the laptop and see if I can work out why 👍

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey your welcome please let me know your findings on your laptop very interested.

@kevin339

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, how does the laptop run in comparison to your desktop? I prefer a laptop configuration but wonder if I’m giving up loads of performance vs the desktop option? I have the i9 and 3070. Thanks for your help

Bro you just made my day sooooo much better and for that you just earned a new sub! ❤❤❤

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for the sub 😀 gladnit helped you

OK so it reset Window Power params...big deal. :-) But after further testing I now see the FPS changing from about 30 to 60 on "static" & dynamic screens...Which settings should be focused on in an attempt to "resolve" this?

Just performed this task and it went without a hitch! Excellent tutorial my man!

@2020fsers

5 ай бұрын

thank you so much ! i have also done an update video on this as some of the settings have changed if your interested kzread.info/dash/bejne/i4J7uqqglcvRlaQ.html

I had on my computer a total of 10 Nvidia programs. What an eye opener. I am now updating it with the new programs that you recommend. Looking forward to see what I can increase too.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting please let us know your results and your system specs thanks again 👍 😀

@edwardandrew5332

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Windows 10 64 Intel core I9-10850 3.6 GHZ 32 GB Ram RTX 3080

@edwardandrew5332

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Ok so Here are my Results. Followed the instructions to the T. At highly detailed airports and JFK I get around 23-28 after following the instructions. Flying through Heavy clouds went down to around 19-21 but they were thick! Overall it seems to run smoother even at the low frame rates. When I get up to cruising and the sky is clear I get 45-50 easy. I have all my settings on Ultra.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Ok great thanks for the info 1 thing that will help fps is turn the clouds to high and that will greatly improve fps if you have that set to ultra. Thanks again

NVIDIA now goes to "sleep" after some time(?) with no activity, and if the Sim is running it shuts off sound. The PC does not go to sleep...only the Display (incl sound)?

so helpful, thanks much! clear and great tutorial

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome thanks for the comment 😀

Nice Warp Speed intro. Have a great day.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment & you have a fabulous day as well !

I absoutely love your videos! Clear, concise, and easy to follow! Anyone tell you that you sound like Jimmy Kimmel? :D

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment 😀 no i haven't heard that before lol 😆 I was a big fan of the man show.

After installing the driver i got two error messages: "Enable DLSS indicator failed" and "Disable Audio device Sleep Timer failed". I'm guessing my hardware does not support those. Do i just reinstall again or i just let it be hence all other features i ticked are probably installed correctly?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Well I would say if it failed then it didn't do what ever the box tick was for anyway so run as is and test it. If you find that you want to revert back just run the nvidia driver setup file you downloaded from nvidia and back to normal.

Thank you for this information. I have the Nvida GeForce RTX-2070 GPU. While in the MSFS2020 window I get 25-35 FPS after following your instructions. I can live with that however every time I switch to another window (like supported MSFS2020 utilities, or the map, etc...the open flight simulator window goes to 15 FPS & stutters until I make it the active window. I didn't have this issue prior to the performance hack other than the lose of flight control inputs when the simulator is not the active window which is still the case. GeForce Game Ready Driver - Driver Version: 516.59 - Release Date: Tue Jun 28, 2022

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment make sure in your nvidia panel settings that the background app fps limit is set to off .

11900k OC , 3060ti OC 32gb ram , 2k etc etc... I had 3 nvidia share , 1 web helper , 1 nvidia shadowplay helper , and 5 nvidia container lol i have to say i already had a pretty smooth experience with the sim but i saw your video and i wanted to try your stuff and i have to say you know your stuff buddy ! my sim run soooooooo smooth with the pmdg 737 wow thank you

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Your very welcome my friend 😊 thanks for the comment 😀 I'm very happy this helped you .

@Mist261

10 ай бұрын

Did you get rid of shadowplay? Used something instead? Or did you leave it unticked in the process

Here from Overkill. Subscribed

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard thanks for the sub

Excellent video and very clear again; you are a great communicator. I just have a question: should we not achieve similar result by just uninstalling the "GeForce experience" via the control panel (add/remove programs) ?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

So yes you can do that also but the big thing here is the ddu and then just install the nvidia driver choose custom and don't select the GeForce. I like doing it the way I showed only because I'm able to eliminate more things than just the GeForce experience it just gives es me more control that's all. Thanks for the comment

Great video. I just completed the steps but haven't run msfs yet. I did run 3D mark timespy to see if there was a difference and my graphics score has dropped significantly. Do you know if this is normal after doing the tweak? I'm using a MSI 4090

Sent over from ROADKILL..... lol good job man

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks 😊 great guy there .. glad you enjoyed the video .

Wow...what a game changer. Thank you for sharing !

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Great thank you for the comment

Wow. This made an incredible difference! Thanks for posting this! When a new driver comes out, do I redo the whole process each time?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment yes you would repeat the process.

Thank you so very much. I had 13 nvidias. I am happy now.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Glad this helped you thanks for posting

When you install Nvidia driver using Nvidia installation you have the option of not selecting Nvidea GeForce experience, which is what I do typically (I have only two Nvidia containers). Using the method you described did not improve FPS for me. So I wonder whether using NVCleanstall bring any thing compared to Nvidia installation but without selecting Nvidea GeForce experience component. Any idea? Thank you anyway.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

hey there thanks for the comment . so a couple things happen here when we do this . 1 the ddu is very important as it cleans and removes all display driver software from the pc. the nvclean install is able to remove some of the other things in the driver not just the geforce exp but that is the main one to remove. so if you already dont install the geforce you may not get any improvement in that area. but the ddu is well worth is to make sure everything is clean for the new driver and nothing conflicts.

@samhh6076

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Thanks for the feedback. My comment above was specifically related to NVCleanstall part of the process (including those unclear check boxes options) compared to straightforward installation using Nvidia setup (without the Nvidia GeForce experience). As to the DDU part, the benefit and the process are clear and actually many of Nvidia users have been always using it.

I knew the gf experience was a bloat, streamlined installation makes a big difference, thanks!

@2020fsers

10 ай бұрын

Your welcome thanks for the comment .

I've really been struggling with FPS in major airports (particularly the new Aerosoft Brussels) but after doing this and your other settings guide my FPS is significantly higher. Thank you!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

thats fantastic thanks for posting this glad it helped you !

@matp8493

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Honestly mate, I can't believe the difference

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way it's like a new sim experience.

@matp8493

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers totally, I was considering upgrading my 3070 but I don't need to bother now.

Since update 9 I get sick after a few minutes of using my G2 VR headset. Is there a way to completely disable turbulence in VR? Not just removing the wind layer...

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm I'm not sure if you can or not . I have some bag movement in the g2 but i know it's the tracking if I cover the all the cameras it stops but you don't have the 6dof it's only 3 I think

HI.. Thank you for all the help provided to all of us. Got a question: why am I seeing "Enabling DLSS Indicator failed" box after the NVCleaninstall setup?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure some others have said that also . Maybe your gpu doesn't support that in which it would give the message I really don't know.

@_PSantos

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers Mine is a GTX1080Ti, I would expect that DLSS is part of the cards structure. Any toughs? EDITED: I thing I found it: Does GTX 1080 Ti support DLSS? DLSS. In games that support Nvidia's deep learning super sampling (DLSS) the performance gap widens, with a noticeable performance leap for the RTX 2080. The 1080 Ti just doesn't have the Tensor cores to support the feature, so can't offer much in the way of competition there.

Hey 2020fs'ers - I did one of those NVClean installs of my drivers, and I am wondering what people typically do or consider to be the best method to update their drivers by? Do I need to do a NVClean Install each time? Can I just manually download the driver? Thank you!

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

I repeat the entire process every update but that's me.

Another appreciative "down under" follower here and a NZ beer or 2 waits if you ever get to visit :-). Your info helped me get my VR FPS from a totally unusable 2-3 to 19 after making changes per your recommendations. My system specs are: Windows 11 Home 64 MSI B560 B560M, Pro-E MS 7D-22 Intel U3-E1 - gaming mode selected (whatever that means) Intel Comet Lake Core I5 10400 CPU @ 2.9GHZ 32GB memory NVidia GEFORCE GTX 1660 Super GPU, 2047MB, drivers up to date 2 Samsung SSD 860 EVO HP Reverb G2 VR OpenXR per your recommended settings. Task Manager had 6 NVidia entries before Guru3d and NVClean, now shows 2 - I assume this is as expected. My CPU typically running at less than 50% and GPU up from 65-70% to 98-100% in VR. In your opinion, does 19 FPS sound about right for my specs or do you feel that my system should be capable of more and if so, I would appreciate any recommendations about where to look. Thanks very much Mike

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment and happy it helped you.. so are you running you ram on xmp mode in the bios? If not turn that on will make a big change. I also just did a windows optimization guide I know it's for windows 10 but the application at the end of the video is a good application to use for 10 and 11 that will also help. You can also use msi afterburner and overclock your gpu. I also have a video on that as well.

I truly can't believe the improvement thanks to this tutorial. I'm not kidding when I say my jaw dropped when loaded the sim up. I must have at least doubled from where I was, and that's with increasing some settings. I am running an I5 4690k and a GTX 980, pretty old hardware, and yet I'm seeing fantastic performance. If you are on the fence about this method you should definitely try it!

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so for the comment and posting your results.

ok when i click the set up option thats in my nvidia folder i created its telling me that windows cannot acess the specific device path or file you may not have the appropiate permission to access them. but when i click on the nvidia icon i have no geforce expeirence showing just control panel so did it install the hack ? what can i do from here and by the way i never turned back on my ethernet if that makes a difference

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

ok so if after you run the ddu you should have no nvidia icon in the tool tray . not until you install the driver. so if the system did reboot after the ddu and you check the tool tray for the nvidia icon again there should be nothing there if it is then your system auto downloaded a driver after reboot. no big deal just run the ddu again in safe mode then let it restart and then run the nvclean install and create the file and then transfer to a folder on the desktop and then run the setup application make sure if you get a permission error to then run as admin maybe that will work also make sure your sign in on your pc is set up as admin . i didn't have any issue with a permission thing on mine

@richardPalmisano

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers ok i will give it a try thanks buddy i will get back with you so this will make msf graphics look good using open xr tool kit and run smoother right

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

So this doesn't change any graphics settings what it does is remove all the behind the scenes bloat ware that is causing lag and fps drop due to the many nvidia programs open. So this will make things run way smoother give a little more fps boost and with the open xrtoolkit you can make the clarity better as you should be able to bump up you resolution now I am using 100 percent in msfs, openxrtoolkit, openxr dev tools . And using a g2. The clarity is amazing now. Not to mention all the post process stuff in the openxr toolkit now.

hello my friend my question is can i skip the nv clean install since i went to my geforce expeirence and showed me an update on the driver which was the latest in your video and downloaded it and use the option to do a express install or clean install, i selected clean install is that the same procedure as using the NVCleanstall zip file that i havent opened yet ? so i can skip the safe mode procedure.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

The answer no if you download the way you are talking about from GeForce exp then you still have all the bloatware installed . The point of nvclean install is to remove all the bloatware and create a driver file you can then install. And you must do the display driver uninstall in safe mode this ensures all of the bloatware and precious graphics drivers are removed. And it will clean your registry as well.

@richardPalmisano

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers good answer my friend i will continue your steps then and once again thanks for the fast respond wish they were all like you buddy have a great day

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

You as well thank you 😊

Thank you for this amazing tweak! Made a huge difference on my system! But one question left: What is the way to go to update the GPU driver in future? What steps are required to install the next NVIDIA driver update? Thanks in advance!

@2020fsers

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the comment .. for future updates repeat the process .

RE: your question at the beginning: I had exactly TWO NVIDIA containers in Task Manager before, and also TWO after installing the de-bloated driver. I also had no performance improvement at all. I ALSO didn't have Geforce Experience installed to begin with. Could that be why I didn't see any improvement and why I only had 2 containers to begin with?

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Yes most likely that is why I would also check out the graphics video that may also help you. Thanks for the comment

@Sirhc1111

2 жыл бұрын

@@2020fsers I also followed your instructions in the video above, but still have the two containers in task manager.

@2020fsers

2 жыл бұрын

Most likely due to.you have not had GeForce installed previously