Our powder coating is top notch. Gotta make it all rust resistant the best we can. Awesome video.
@craiglarmay3184 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered and received the rng primary kit can’t wait to see the next video I’m installing it on a 2022 z950 HO sport
@DirtTrailAdventures Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@mikecondoluci53 Жыл бұрын
great video i was debating on what one to go with ,cant wait for your results, thank you
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
I ended up going with msc because the belt temps were 20-25 degrees cooler. And I felt the mid range was much better. When watching the stage 3 comparison I showed how one was having an issue with rubbing and the other wasn’t nearly as bad. Also ones paint came off and covered my belt box as well “I wasn’t to happy about cleaning all that out honestly”. I think both kits have a place but I wanted more bottom end but I didn’t want to sacrifice top end “I like going 70+ mph” and the max kit gave me that. Thanks again for watching.
@jefferylws Жыл бұрын
Interested in seeing the next two videos.
@terrywondrow5834 Жыл бұрын
I have MSC stage 3 mud kit running 30s absolute beast! Love it! Tons of torque! Msc has dyno to back up claims. RNG junk only has his big mouth telling all of us how good his kit is!
@juliuszebrauskas2716
Жыл бұрын
How do you reclock you secondary? B1?
@juliuszebrauskas2716
Жыл бұрын
How do you reclock you secondary? B1?
@thadhaley941 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel to keep up with this
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
It’s going to be fun to watch for sure.
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@joelcrane8197 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@cameronpeterson9259 Жыл бұрын
Can't lie, I like my RNG setup better. But I like how I can order springs and weights individually from MSC. I can say I'm a customer of both
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
I can get you anything you need at a better price we will be adding this service soon.
@cameronpeterson9259
Жыл бұрын
@R.N.G Performance that is good to know! Are going to get storage box's by chance? Iv been thinking about ordering one of them for the rear
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronpeterson9259 we are definitely looking in to expanding our products for sure.
@t82us1 Жыл бұрын
Recently installed msc stage 3 trail. Didn't notice and difference waiting for results of this before I order RNG kit.
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
Definitely stay tuned. The results should be out this weekend.
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
I have a money back guarantee my friend.
@t82us1
Жыл бұрын
I get the money back guarantee but I don't do that kinda stuff. I paid a shop $200 to install. So would cost more to have removed and re install.
@bigjoe5659
Жыл бұрын
@@t82us1I had the MSC and wasn’t happy. I went to RNG and it’s the best of the best. Make sure you tell him exactly what your looking out of the kit. He has a buttery smooth with more power and a smooth with tons of power. He’s great to deal with also.
@Mike_MaLissa Жыл бұрын
What are the measurables? Times • 0-10 MPH • 0-20 MPH • 0-30 MPH • 0-40 MPH • 0-50 MPH • 0-60 MPH • 0-70 MPH Performance • Engagement RPM • 30 MPH Cruise RPM • 40 MPH Cruise RPM • Top Speed RPM • Top Speed MPH • RPM when nailing throttle to top speed
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
We’ll be covering all the testing in the next video. But great question.
@Pond_life Жыл бұрын
RNG ✴✴✴✴✴
@jefferylws Жыл бұрын
Sure would like to have one of those cups MSC, are they on your website?
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure to be honest it just happened to be in the box
@davidcredicott40252 ай бұрын
If you know anything about cvtech clutches make your own kit. Only thing I use from there kit is the helix.
@itsjollyeditz7891 Жыл бұрын
And how was the customer service experience?
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
Both were very good. Both are very knowledgeable about their products. I’ll cover all of this in the end of the video
@scottfernbaugh72187 ай бұрын
Temps on belts will not hurt them if was over 180° yes but i spoke to belt manufacturers and temps on belts are fine so your differences that you found there means nothing Just your opinion.....
@mjmisadventures950
7 ай бұрын
Actually testing the machine in stock configuration it’s not hard to get over 200 degrees on a relatively long hard pull. Over 220 can cause belt delaminating “that’s from rng and from cfmoto”. Last but not least the testing was done on 22 degree days. So belt temps will be low. Running the rng stage 1 in sand I had belt slip “as I’ve said” and that’s with an rng kit. Could it happen with msc? Absolutely but it hasn’t yet and I tested on the same trail and sand hill as well. So as I’ve said to others you can disagree all you’d like but your welcome to get both products yourself and test them or if your in the pa area your welcome to ride with me and we can compare directly. My point of the temps were to show what I was seeing as “rng” recommended that portion of the test himself “both rng and msc helped to determine the testing”. I understand your an rng guy and I’m happy to see you found what you want but facts are facts.
@scottfernbaugh7218
7 ай бұрын
@mjmisadventures950 I think the kits have ups and downs on both sides .that being said, I believe the RNG clutches work better on trails and mud just my opinion , I think MSC has better off the line torque but not really smooth ...i take smooth over drag racing most CFMOTO where built for tail riding not drag racing again just my opinion .
@mjmisadventures950
7 ай бұрын
So I can agree in a way but disagree in another. I feel the power the msc kit has is better in the mud because of its weights and IT’s reduction in belt slip. On the trail at slower speeds 10 and under I agree the rng kit has better performance because of how the clutch is setup. But imo and it shows via testing mid range was an issue I had with rng “that’s why he sent 18 and 20g weight” to test both. My main issue was my machine stopped at 65mph and if I coasted down hill I could get 67. Where the msc kit “stage 1” gave me 68mph but it felt way snappier. I agree about drag racing but I chose that because it’s a time everybody understands and it give the machine time to run hard so even if it’s slow off the line it can make up for it. But for me I’ve switched back and forth both kits “off camera” and ridden on trails and in mud and hills and so on. I see the same thing consistently I wrap the motor way out and it just sits there and doesn’t seem to help it much where the msc kit you can feel it powering through. I said that to red and said man am I doing something wrong? I said it comes off the line hard but then seems to nose over. He said that’s just the way they are. On the trail the msc kit imo kicks butt. I holds its own against can am x3’s “up to about 55mph” then they do pull away from me but for a n/a car vs a turbo can I think that’s reasonable. As I’ve said for rock crawling in a z950 or if your spraying a fence line his kits “ok” but theirs better out there and I’ll take a small engagement feel off the line for way better low end to top end. As I’ve said I’m not against rng “even though he hates me for some reason idk why”. But when it comes to clutches vv and msc have a far superior kit for that reason. I’m not sure if you’ve tried their kit or again if your close to me I’ll gladly go for a ride with ya and show ya the difference.
@Chevy_Alexander Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see an update
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@RexAuto16 ай бұрын
Funny I just watched a RNG video where he says he dont recommend changing the secondary spring and bam.. there it is in a RNG clutch kit 🤔🤣🤣
@mjmisadventures950
6 ай бұрын
I find it funny as well. I’ve seen the video you’re referring to as well. I’ll be doing a 1 year review of the clutch here very so to show how it’s held up over the last year of abuse
@RexAuto1
6 ай бұрын
@mjmisadventures950 im on a stage 3 MSC kit on my CF500 and I love it, great bottom end! Lost a little top end but hey its worth it.
@mikestowe61366 ай бұрын
nither one makes them they just sell them aftermarket
@mjmisadventures950
6 ай бұрын
True in a way I know VV and msc have tuned their clutches together but that’s true VV does actually make the springs and helixes themselves.
@JdubYa8510 ай бұрын
Pretty expensive.
@mjmisadventures950
10 ай бұрын
What do you mean by that? The overall kit cost?
@NaySeld Жыл бұрын
Prices??
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
On what kit? Both kits are pretty much the same price “within 20 dollars”.
@d1a1k7 Жыл бұрын
Both are grossly overpriced, the complete kit should be in the $275 range
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
Some kits I can agree with that price. But honestly the prices of materials have gone up exponentially. If they were pot metal I could see a 275 price range kit. Maybe one of the two should look into a cheaper alternative and then still offer the premium option.
Пікірлер: 47
Our powder coating is top notch. Gotta make it all rust resistant the best we can. Awesome video.
Just ordered and received the rng primary kit can’t wait to see the next video I’m installing it on a 2022 z950 HO sport
Great video!!
great video i was debating on what one to go with ,cant wait for your results, thank you
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
I ended up going with msc because the belt temps were 20-25 degrees cooler. And I felt the mid range was much better. When watching the stage 3 comparison I showed how one was having an issue with rubbing and the other wasn’t nearly as bad. Also ones paint came off and covered my belt box as well “I wasn’t to happy about cleaning all that out honestly”. I think both kits have a place but I wanted more bottom end but I didn’t want to sacrifice top end “I like going 70+ mph” and the max kit gave me that. Thanks again for watching.
Interested in seeing the next two videos.
I have MSC stage 3 mud kit running 30s absolute beast! Love it! Tons of torque! Msc has dyno to back up claims. RNG junk only has his big mouth telling all of us how good his kit is!
@juliuszebrauskas2716
Жыл бұрын
How do you reclock you secondary? B1?
@juliuszebrauskas2716
Жыл бұрын
How do you reclock you secondary? B1?
Just subscribed to your channel to keep up with this
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
It’s going to be fun to watch for sure.
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
👍👍
Can't lie, I like my RNG setup better. But I like how I can order springs and weights individually from MSC. I can say I'm a customer of both
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
I can get you anything you need at a better price we will be adding this service soon.
@cameronpeterson9259
Жыл бұрын
@R.N.G Performance that is good to know! Are going to get storage box's by chance? Iv been thinking about ordering one of them for the rear
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronpeterson9259 we are definitely looking in to expanding our products for sure.
Recently installed msc stage 3 trail. Didn't notice and difference waiting for results of this before I order RNG kit.
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
Definitely stay tuned. The results should be out this weekend.
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
I have a money back guarantee my friend.
@t82us1
Жыл бұрын
I get the money back guarantee but I don't do that kinda stuff. I paid a shop $200 to install. So would cost more to have removed and re install.
@bigjoe5659
Жыл бұрын
@@t82us1I had the MSC and wasn’t happy. I went to RNG and it’s the best of the best. Make sure you tell him exactly what your looking out of the kit. He has a buttery smooth with more power and a smooth with tons of power. He’s great to deal with also.
What are the measurables? Times • 0-10 MPH • 0-20 MPH • 0-30 MPH • 0-40 MPH • 0-50 MPH • 0-60 MPH • 0-70 MPH Performance • Engagement RPM • 30 MPH Cruise RPM • 40 MPH Cruise RPM • Top Speed RPM • Top Speed MPH • RPM when nailing throttle to top speed
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
We’ll be covering all the testing in the next video. But great question.
RNG ✴✴✴✴✴
Sure would like to have one of those cups MSC, are they on your website?
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure to be honest it just happened to be in the box
If you know anything about cvtech clutches make your own kit. Only thing I use from there kit is the helix.
And how was the customer service experience?
@Michaelg0221
Жыл бұрын
Both were very good. Both are very knowledgeable about their products. I’ll cover all of this in the end of the video
Temps on belts will not hurt them if was over 180° yes but i spoke to belt manufacturers and temps on belts are fine so your differences that you found there means nothing Just your opinion.....
@mjmisadventures950
7 ай бұрын
Actually testing the machine in stock configuration it’s not hard to get over 200 degrees on a relatively long hard pull. Over 220 can cause belt delaminating “that’s from rng and from cfmoto”. Last but not least the testing was done on 22 degree days. So belt temps will be low. Running the rng stage 1 in sand I had belt slip “as I’ve said” and that’s with an rng kit. Could it happen with msc? Absolutely but it hasn’t yet and I tested on the same trail and sand hill as well. So as I’ve said to others you can disagree all you’d like but your welcome to get both products yourself and test them or if your in the pa area your welcome to ride with me and we can compare directly. My point of the temps were to show what I was seeing as “rng” recommended that portion of the test himself “both rng and msc helped to determine the testing”. I understand your an rng guy and I’m happy to see you found what you want but facts are facts.
@scottfernbaugh7218
7 ай бұрын
@mjmisadventures950 I think the kits have ups and downs on both sides .that being said, I believe the RNG clutches work better on trails and mud just my opinion , I think MSC has better off the line torque but not really smooth ...i take smooth over drag racing most CFMOTO where built for tail riding not drag racing again just my opinion .
@mjmisadventures950
7 ай бұрын
So I can agree in a way but disagree in another. I feel the power the msc kit has is better in the mud because of its weights and IT’s reduction in belt slip. On the trail at slower speeds 10 and under I agree the rng kit has better performance because of how the clutch is setup. But imo and it shows via testing mid range was an issue I had with rng “that’s why he sent 18 and 20g weight” to test both. My main issue was my machine stopped at 65mph and if I coasted down hill I could get 67. Where the msc kit “stage 1” gave me 68mph but it felt way snappier. I agree about drag racing but I chose that because it’s a time everybody understands and it give the machine time to run hard so even if it’s slow off the line it can make up for it. But for me I’ve switched back and forth both kits “off camera” and ridden on trails and in mud and hills and so on. I see the same thing consistently I wrap the motor way out and it just sits there and doesn’t seem to help it much where the msc kit you can feel it powering through. I said that to red and said man am I doing something wrong? I said it comes off the line hard but then seems to nose over. He said that’s just the way they are. On the trail the msc kit imo kicks butt. I holds its own against can am x3’s “up to about 55mph” then they do pull away from me but for a n/a car vs a turbo can I think that’s reasonable. As I’ve said for rock crawling in a z950 or if your spraying a fence line his kits “ok” but theirs better out there and I’ll take a small engagement feel off the line for way better low end to top end. As I’ve said I’m not against rng “even though he hates me for some reason idk why”. But when it comes to clutches vv and msc have a far superior kit for that reason. I’m not sure if you’ve tried their kit or again if your close to me I’ll gladly go for a ride with ya and show ya the difference.
Can't wait to see an update
@R.N.GPerformance
Жыл бұрын
Same here.
Funny I just watched a RNG video where he says he dont recommend changing the secondary spring and bam.. there it is in a RNG clutch kit 🤔🤣🤣
@mjmisadventures950
6 ай бұрын
I find it funny as well. I’ve seen the video you’re referring to as well. I’ll be doing a 1 year review of the clutch here very so to show how it’s held up over the last year of abuse
@RexAuto1
6 ай бұрын
@mjmisadventures950 im on a stage 3 MSC kit on my CF500 and I love it, great bottom end! Lost a little top end but hey its worth it.
nither one makes them they just sell them aftermarket
@mjmisadventures950
6 ай бұрын
True in a way I know VV and msc have tuned their clutches together but that’s true VV does actually make the springs and helixes themselves.
Pretty expensive.
@mjmisadventures950
10 ай бұрын
What do you mean by that? The overall kit cost?
Prices??
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
On what kit? Both kits are pretty much the same price “within 20 dollars”.
Both are grossly overpriced, the complete kit should be in the $275 range
@mjmisadventures950
Жыл бұрын
Some kits I can agree with that price. But honestly the prices of materials have gone up exponentially. If they were pot metal I could see a 275 price range kit. Maybe one of the two should look into a cheaper alternative and then still offer the premium option.