Mouthpiece vs. Instrument - Which Matters More?

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This is something I've wanted to test out for a long time! Which matters more, the mouthpiece you're playing on or the instrument itself?
I play 2 separate examples (one ballad and one medium swing) on 4 different configurations. Can you guess which is which before I reveal them? Also, put them in order of which you think sounds best to worst. Enjoy!
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  • @DavePollack
    @DavePollack4 жыл бұрын

    What other comparison videos would you like to see??

  • @ChristianRodfie

    @ChristianRodfie

    4 жыл бұрын

    you should do an experiment to see if there is a difference between reeds. Like a hard vs soft reed or jazz vs classical reed.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ChristianRodfie Great idea!! I LOVE D'Addario reeds (they're all I play) so maybe I'll compare their entire lineup...

  • @molestingmoss5883

    @molestingmoss5883

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like ​ TrilbyH ​ idea, in addition you could compare actual reed sizes cause I've never fully understood which number reed should I use as a beginner and when, if i should, switch and to what

  • @ianwhatmough150

    @ianwhatmough150

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ChristianRodfie I second the reed experiment. I feel it's the reed that makes the most difference. A bad reed can ruin any setup.

  • @DrLogical987

    @DrLogical987

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see the exact same test performed by a beginner....

  • @joer3481
    @joer34814 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Dave playing a tenor saxophone.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hah, yep.

  • @Saxologic
    @Saxologic4 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh! I was right for all of them. It makes sense though; I always thought this was the case but it’s nice to see this video confirm it.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Winner winner! The feel matters a lot, and not just for sound. I was struggling with the student piece (on both horns) and my lines suffered because of it (as you heard I tried to play basically the same way each time).

  • @Saxologic

    @Saxologic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dave Pollack Yeah! My guess is that the mouthpiece, like you said, possibly shapes the air that goes into the saxophone (along with other variables like the oral cavity and embouchure). At the end of the day, the air vibrates to make the sound, and the reed is the vessel for the vibration. The saxophone is just an amplifier. I do feel like a good saxophone creates more range of being as sensitive as you want, which is why I assumed #3 was the pro sax, because I was hearing a few more nuanced details you were manipulating within the timbres. The first one was actually my favorite recording, but I felt the third recording left you with more colors on the palette you were free to paint with.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    My concept of gear is that it should disappear when playing so you only focus on making MUSIC. While playing the 4C I was constantly thinking about it and fighting with it - that led to poor intonation, technique, sound, time feel, everything. Tone is only a part of it and obviously in person that would be clearer than a compressed KZread video (although with good headphones it still sounds pretty decent on here)

  • @Saxologic

    @Saxologic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dave Pollack Ah I understand completely! Makes sense. Well I am really tempted to buy the 10m mouthpiece you have. It’s beautiful haha

  • @gottab5381

    @gottab5381

    3 жыл бұрын

    When you find out it’s not the case: Runs saxophone over

  • @DeepFriedChurro
    @DeepFriedChurro4 жыл бұрын

    This really shows that equipment doesn’t matter. There are no short cuts to being amazing. All you need to do is work hard and practice and you’ll get good.

  • @StrasbourgStDenis
    @StrasbourgStDenis4 жыл бұрын

    In order, mpc-horn: 1. Pro pro 4. Student pro 3. Pro student 2. Student student

  • @masonmunch
    @masonmunch4 жыл бұрын

    THERES NO SUCH THING AS A STUDENT MOUTHPIECE!! RAAAAWWWWRRR!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    10/10

  • @bettersax
    @bettersax4 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was Yamaha sax on 1 and 2 and 10MFan mouthpiece on 1 and 3. I think the takeaway here is that the Yamaha mouthpiece works better with the Yamaha horn and the 10M fan works better with the 10M....

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey, you got the mouthpieces right!

  • @TWO20
    @TWO203 жыл бұрын

    We all know that an experienced player can make anything sound good. Dave made a CARROT sound good.

  • @robandmarageraghty3341
    @robandmarageraghty33414 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know about the mouthpieces or horns, but video sure makes me want an everlasting gobstopper and a wonka bar

  • @shakydave
    @shakydave3 жыл бұрын

    You proved that a pro player sounds good on any horn-mouthpiece combo

  • @brianl6660
    @brianl666010 ай бұрын

    I could tell right away that #1's tone was richer than #2

  • @10MFAN
    @10MFAN4 жыл бұрын

    Dave, It’s always an honor hearing you play! You sound fantastic on your 10MFAN Classic model mouthpiece.

  • @derekakien7379
    @derekakien73793 жыл бұрын

    You sound great on all combinations. I once saw a guy playing a blues in Covent Garden on a traffic cone - no mouthpiece either. Proves a top player can make anything sound good!

  • @ank0559
    @ank05594 жыл бұрын

    the full tone in the pro mouthpiece was an easy giveaway, great vid!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I appreciate that.

  • @samtedesco3529
    @samtedesco3529 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this comparison video Dave. You have given me a heap of hope to keep what I've got and move on. I have been working on my sound for a couple of years now and am finding that my breathing is the problem. Bad habits are hard to break when you are self taught. I play jazz for fun so am not in a hurry. (age is 75), maybe I should be in a hurry). I just needed to know that the problem is ME. Going back to the stock mouthpiece with my Chinese horn has really helped my sound. I use my family members to criticize my playing as well as listening to my self recordings which are full of mistakes. I really appreciate the sharing and playing that all of you master players are providing here on youtube. Even though I can play some complicated stuff, but I'm not satisfied unless it swings, sounds good and pure, and has good phrasing, otherwise el flusho.

  • @joer3481
    @joer34814 жыл бұрын

    The 4c works very well for my wife and her 1910 Martin Handcraft Alto sax.

  • @SpanishDaive
    @SpanishDaive3 жыл бұрын

    So glad and happy I recognized the Conn sax sound. Such a homie feeling. :)

  • @bassax7045
    @bassax7045 Жыл бұрын

    got the first 2 right ,then got lost in the music and just enjoyed 🌌🌠 so happy i found your channel ,wich is funny,and extremely musically inspiring,and entertaining too. been binging to get up to date 🤭

  • @HylianAlph
    @HylianAlph3 жыл бұрын

    Ok, I suck at listening but here are my guesses: 1.) Pro horn and mouthpiece 2.) Student horn and mouthpiece 3.) Pro horn student mouthpiece 4.) Student horn pro mouthpiece Again, I'm not very confident in this and they all sounded great to me. It really is 90% technique as long as the instrument functions. Edit: I'll just let myself out...

  • @jedrzejkaczmarek6483
    @jedrzejkaczmarek6483 Жыл бұрын

    Great playing as always 😍 these are my guesses: 1. Pro mouthpiece student horn 2. Student mouthpiece pro horn 3. Student mouthpiece student horn 4. Pro mouthpiece pro horn

  • @timobesamusca9332
    @timobesamusca93324 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave. When listening closely I could hear the difference with you ‘struggling’ (as you say) with the student mpc. You are much more comfortable on the pro mpc. You could also hear a tonal difference in the two saxes, but both had a nice sound, just different.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The struggle was real, haha

  • @BlowhardyMcBee
    @BlowhardyMcBee4 жыл бұрын

    I knew a guy that had a pretty big collection of horns and mouthpieces. He'd analyze what this did with that, and every combination therein... he sounded exactly the same on everything. Better mouthpieces and horns just make it possible to play with greater dynamic range, or just louder... a person's individual "tone" is going to be their sound on anything that will play ok. That said, some higher end mouthpieces will make it possible to play on a horn that's leaking pretty bad. If you're low notes are hard to play on a student level mouthpiece, the horn is probably leaking. It's a good way to check if your horn needs to be serviced.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup! And like I said, I believe gear should “disappear” when playing so you’re only focused on making music. With the student mouthpiece, i was constantly fighting it and thinking about it, so it took away from the music.

  • @jameshoward2768
    @jameshoward27684 жыл бұрын

    Ahh! I was 2/4 got 3-4 switched 1+2. But great video I really liked it‼️ Great playing. I agree as well about the mouthpiece point. I think they have a bigger impact with sound and feel. Thanks for sharing Dave!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Glad you dug it.

  • @blackitachi6935
    @blackitachi69354 жыл бұрын

    The first song I was able to guess which was which. The second tune it was a little harder but the Pro + Pro gear is just a fuller and warmer sound. I agree btw with your ranking.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @garysax6400
    @garysax64004 жыл бұрын

    On the blind test I liked 1 and 3 so it seems to my ear that the mouthpiece on this occasion was more of an influence. Great video

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @darioduva9176
    @darioduva91764 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dave, really..thank you

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @jezwatson8211
    @jezwatson8211 Жыл бұрын

    Listening through good headphones 3 was the best but depending what style you were playing it was hard to differentiate that much difference, completely agree on feeling comfortable with the mpc

  • @thepianokid27
    @thepianokid27 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave! I can’t believe this video is 3 years old! I only just discovered it! I would love for you to do the same but this time with reeds as the variable! I know u did a comparison vid recently with reeds being soaked in different liquids etc, but would love for you to compare great reeds as opposed to really poor ones, fresh ones as compared to one that’s been used for a couple months or more etc, just so we can see how much of a difference the reed alone makes in our overall sound. That would be another fantastic video I’m sure! Also, I loved #1 when I heard it and felt that it had to do with the mouthpiece! 2 and 4 were very obvious in that their tone was a lot thinner, and with less color and depth to the body. I couldn’t tell the difference betw which saxophone was used as well when paired with the student mouthpiece. Goes to show just how impt choosing a good mouthpiece is! After listening to 1 and 3 closely again, I could then tell the difference but it was very minute in my opinion. I wouldn’t otherwise be able to tell on the go. And lastly, you proved the point that the player themselves matter the most. Regardless of how bad the student mouthpiece or saxophone was, you still got a really decent sound out of both setups! A lesser player like myself wouldn’t be able to achieve that level of consistency for sure! Thanks again for a great vid and hope to see that reed comparison someday soon! :)

  • @jeffpf38
    @jeffpf384 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Believe it or not I actually had number one on both as my favorite. I think it's because I prefer a slightly brighter sound, and the students model sax give you that. I thought it was really obvious that number two and number four you were playing on the beginner mouthpiece.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Others have said the same! The Classic gives a really warm "dark" sound, so a lot people might like the brightness the student horn gives it!

  • @lger2010
    @lger20104 жыл бұрын

    Just found this video and I'm happy to say my guesses on the mouthpiece were right. I couldn't tell the difference between a pro and student horn but the mouthpiece was night and day. The pro mouthpiece allowed for more intense vibrato, more emotion and more dynamic range. Next to it the 4C sounded flat and restrained. That's probably due to the opening. You just can't do as much when you have less space to work with.

  • @ziruini5071
    @ziruini50714 жыл бұрын

    My guess- 1- pro mouthpiece student sax 2- pro sax student mouthpiece 3- pro mouthpiece pro sax 4- student sax student mouthpiece edit- goddamn i actually nailed it. #3 sounds the best to me but you sound damn good on all of them. Pro player matters most ! lol

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    You got it!! Thanks for the kind words.

  • @ronnyastudillo4203
    @ronnyastudillo42034 жыл бұрын

    I just finished watching your pure imagination vid and it was beautiful, this is a coincidence 😂

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hah, thanks so much!!

  • @ThomasSchoefer
    @ThomasSchoefer4 жыл бұрын

    great video! I was right with the mouthpieces, but only sure with the combination student saxophon and student mouthpiece. for my opinion the mouthpiece is more important.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    100%! For tone AND feel.

  • @TylerCenci
    @TylerCenci4 жыл бұрын

    That b-roll though 0:50

  • @jamalcole9370
    @jamalcole93704 жыл бұрын

    My order was 3, 1, 2, 4. It was very slight, and you sound great regardless, but my top picks were the pro mouthpieces. Interesting stuff

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    You nailed it!!

  • @tkbach
    @tkbach4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting experiment. I could pick out the mouthpieces easily as intonation was much better on #1 and #3. However the instrument was a bit harder. It did feel like your lines were much more seamless for 2 & 3 but it was still hard to tell in the blind hearing. Thanks for doing!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that! I was definitely struggling to play in tune and make my lines seamless with the 4C - I was worried about the mouthpiece instead of the music! That's why I believe good gear should disappear when you play.

  • @kevindeibert3369
    @kevindeibert33692 жыл бұрын

    I kinda like #3 the best but that’s just me, but you sound just fine on all of them

  • @luisito022002
    @luisito0220024 жыл бұрын

    I notice a huge difference in my sound when i upgraded from the Yamaha 4c to a Meyer 5 but you sound great on all of them. I see why most pro say that the sound depends on the person not the instrument or equipment

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup!

  • @coin777
    @coin7773 жыл бұрын

    From worst to best: 4

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues11584 жыл бұрын

    The way I hear it is: the mouthpiece is the deal. And the pro MP and pro horn are "better". Just my humble opinion. Thanks for doing fun and informative stuff!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that, thanks so much!

  • @alanhirayama4592
    @alanhirayama45924 жыл бұрын

    My guesses were 1) S/P, 2) P/S, 3) P/P, and 4) S/S, so I got the first two incorrect and got the 3rd and 4th correct. My initial assumption was same as yours, that the mpc would be the most influence in one's sound. However, I thought even with the student mpc, you sounded pretty darn good, probably because your fundamentals were firmly developed and already there. I would agree that as long as the student horn is not leaking and functioning correctly, the upgrade in the mpc would be the better than the instrument. Great video, thank you very much!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty close! The differences are even bigger in person - hard to convey the nuance of the sound once KZread compresses it down. You can make the student mouthpiece work, but the big upgrade (like you said) should be the mouthpiece way before the horn. Thanks for watching and I'm glad you liked it!

  • @ChristianRodfie
    @ChristianRodfie4 жыл бұрын

    2,4,1,3 is my order but it is really hard to tell the difference between all the combinations. It more how the player is and it sounds great because you are a great player. Cool experiment.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh man...

  • @HB-ve4wi
    @HB-ve4wi4 жыл бұрын

    The differences are negligible, which just goes to show: develop a solid sound image and practice, practice, practice. Though I guess #3 would be the more comfortable setup for you (as you ended up saying :). And as per usual: great playing! Thanks!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Comfort is super important (once you have a sound concept)

  • @Danox94
    @Danox943 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how strong the 10m sounded to me with the student mouthpiece.

  • @grapix1184
    @grapix11844 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @derekakien7379
    @derekakien73794 жыл бұрын

    The Yamaha's are great for a cheap m/p. I blew a 4c, 6c and 7c on Alto - 7c gave a fuller sound. Then I bought a Beechler Bellite 8, fantastic but not very forgiving.

  • @johnconklin6138
    @johnconklin61384 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @richardolson8651
    @richardolson86514 жыл бұрын

    what did u feel when playing the different mps, beside the sound. U sound great to me on all the different set ups. Did the student mps take more effort to play, use the same air. When it comes to mps its all about getting the sound u want versus the effort it takes to get there. I've played mps that give me the sound I like but just can't play them. Usually I can't keep the horn up and running because the chamber may be to large or the tip opening is to large or reed and on and on. I certainly agree that as long as the horn is in playing shape it is the lest least important as far as sound goes. There are a lot of comparisons out there and usually the guy doing them is so good it always sounds good to me. I'd like to see u take on the mechanics of the pmc. For example different baffles and chambers and how and what effect the have on sound and effort. How does resistance or back pressure figure in to the playing. Mps are getting so pricy this days its hard to experiment. I know it all gets down to what where comfortable with and can play but the road to get there is long and full of pot holes. Are expensive worth the money?

  • @Raccoon1400
    @Raccoon14004 жыл бұрын

    Damn I was close. I got 2 and 4 reversed. So I guessed the horn correctly with your pro piece but got the horns mixed up when you used the student piece. You missed a note on the first clip of setup #4 which made it clear it was the student piece. The differences were subtle though, and I'm listening on a studio quality system. I doubt I could tell on something average. I bet the mouthpieces felt a lot different though. I'd take a pro piece on a student horn any day over vice versa.

  • @vandenbrandenmerlin6629
    @vandenbrandenmerlin66293 жыл бұрын

    Heyyy!! Loved it👌 What is the name of the Ballad pleeeaase?

  • @Brian-ey4xt
    @Brian-ey4xt4 жыл бұрын

    So this is coming from a semi-pro french horn player rather than a sax player, but I'd order them from best sounding to worst (not that any were bad): 2 sounded best to me, then 4, then I honestly couldn't tell any difference between 1 and 3. Now to play the rest of the video and find out!

  • @Brian-ey4xt

    @Brian-ey4xt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty crazy ... I mean, I figured I would be wrong and also pretty amazing I thought the pro/pro sounded worse than the student/student setup, lol.

  • @davegurr9860
    @davegurr98603 жыл бұрын

    Dave, I love your playing and I would be particularly interested in what you think of the (durable) new synthetic legere 'american cut' reeds. Have you tried them?

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! I've never played them even once so I have no idea how they play

  • @DionteGeorgeMusic
    @DionteGeorgeMusic4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I have the same order you have but reverse 2 and 4. 3 sounded like your normal set up with how comfortable you sounded with it (before I knew which was which). 1 sounded great as but I was honestly surprised that I enjoyed myself listening to 2 a lot more than 4.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting - maybe the shrillness of the student mouthpiece matched the student horn?

  • @DionteGeorgeMusic

    @DionteGeorgeMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavePollack That's what I was thinking. I dont really know how to explain it honestly. In the case of 4, I think it could be the two set ups not meshing well for me sound wise.

  • @DiMoraDiamond
    @DiMoraDiamond4 жыл бұрын

    I liked 1 & 3 the best and did not like 2 & 4. Needless to say, I was shocked to see that 2 & 4 were the student mouthpiece. Wow...the mouthpiece made a huge difference! The student Yamaha sax even sounded GREAT with the pro mouthpiece.

  • @JohnDoe-qk7wx
    @JohnDoe-qk7wx4 жыл бұрын

    They all sound the same to me, except some of the setups sound more of tune than others especially on the upper registers, but I’m sure they definitely feel different. Anyways love your playing

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! They definitely feel wayyyy different.

  • @orestfilipov4000
    @orestfilipov40003 жыл бұрын

    I was able to define number 3 as a pro setup))) and four as student.

  • @MushVPeets
    @MushVPeets4 жыл бұрын

    Apparently the horn matters more, which is the opposite of what I expected. In my mind the mpc is the bit that creates the tone and the horn is the tube that tunes it down to whatever note you want to come out the end.

  • @GavinJorgensenMusic
    @GavinJorgensenMusic4 жыл бұрын

    1&3

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good ear ;)

  • @gooball2005
    @gooball20054 жыл бұрын

    1 and 3 as well as 2 and 4 sound pretty much the same to me and I like 1 and 3 better because they have a smoother sound.

  • @simonsimon5124
    @simonsimon51243 жыл бұрын

    I thought that the #1 was professional sax with professional mouthpiece. I guess that it all comes down to mouthpiece and saxophone neck also

  • @PalKrammer
    @PalKrammer4 жыл бұрын

    All four sounded very good to me and essentially indistinguishable. It makes me think I'm not good at hearing music as those more talented are.

  • @danielbonnet972
    @danielbonnet9724 жыл бұрын

    Honestly you’ve developed your sound to the point that you sound the same on everything

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but I can definitely hear (and feel!) differences in them.

  • @supersabber196

    @supersabber196

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that we can't know what you feel and the minor differences in sound aren't that obvious when the speaker isn't that great lol.

  • @bna8259

    @bna8259

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DavePollack There was a pretty stark contrast between the student and pro horn, and less of a contrast between the mouthpieces. That being said, Conns have such a unique sound, even among different pro horns. I'm wondering how much that factored into being able to hear the difference. Would be interesting to put a 16M up against the 10M, or even a Mark 6 against the Yamaha.

  • @nilesloughlin6845
    @nilesloughlin68454 жыл бұрын

    1. Pro mpc pro sax 2. Student mpc pro sax 3. Student mpc student sax 4. Pro mpc student sax Rank: 1, 4, 2, 3 I was super shocked once I saw what the actual results were! The lows on the Yamaha sax sounded rather robust, and I think that led me to associating any brightness I heard with the student models. I definitely think a mpc is what makes the greater sound difference, but comfort and feel should definitely come first imo. It seems to me that comfort in making a sound respond at all is what leads to the most control and flexibility in making any kind of sound you want to make in the end. Timbre in sound is a personal choice to me, so in that regard I wouldn’t consider any option “better” over the other, just different. If I was told I had to play a well-maintained student model Yamaha, I honestly wouldn’t complain!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the detailed reply! Very interesting results, hahah. The comfort of the 10mfan mouthpiece BLOWS AWAY the other. The gear should disappear when playing (so all you focus on is making music) and that's what happens playing that. With the 4C, I was thinking about it and fighting with it the whole time, so my overall sound suffered as well as technique, feel, time - everything! The student horn felt perfectly fine in my hands when I had my mouthpiece on it. With the 4C, not so much!

  • @nilesloughlin6845

    @nilesloughlin6845

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dave Pollack Exactly! Took me too many years for my liking to figure that bit out, and have been finally settling into a setup where I don’t have to think about what I’m doing as much and can just “do” what I want now. Have definitely noticed that difference in not getting nearly as distracted away from my tone and technique! Ps: if you haven’t picked up a Venova from Yamaha yet, I bet that would be a bit of a fun video to make. Just got a soprano for Christmas; quite a bit of fun, but a bit of a challenge with the stock mpc it’s shipped with!

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's great to hear! I've never tried one of those Venova things - maybe I'll reach out them about it!

  • @tunbata
    @tunbata4 жыл бұрын

    The ones that I liked the most 3,4,12

  • @DynamixWarePro
    @DynamixWarePro4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I have been wondering the same thing the past 2 days. I am currently using a Yamaha YAS-280 which is freeblowing. I am playing on two mouthpieces, a Selmer S80 C** with a Francouis Louis Ultimate Brass ligature and a JodyJazz HR* 5M and Rovner Dark Ligature with Legere Studio Cut 2.25 reeds and for the past 2 days on my Selmer, I have been having issues keeping it in tune as I am often either a bit sharp or flat and wouldn't stay in tune easily and was trying to figure out why and thought that I didn't have enough resistance in either the mouthpiece, reed or saxophone itself. I tried a 2.5 Studio Cut reed and found it a bit hard to play and got mostly airy sound and have a new 2.25 reed which is a bit harder to play on than my current 2.25 which I have played on since last September., but slightly easier to play than the 2.5 Maybe I need to try different reeds.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmm...how do the tip openings/chambers vary between the mouthpieces? (I don't know much at all about them) I don't like to change gear, and the only time I play stuff that's not my normal setup is for videos. It could just be that you got used to 1 setup over the other and it's tough to switch back (or between them).

  • @DynamixWarePro

    @DynamixWarePro

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@DavePollack The S80 C** has a square chamber and a 1.65mm tip and the JodyJazz HR* 5M has a round chamber which looks a bit bigger than the Selmer and a 1.80mm tip. The JodyJazz is made of harder rubber than the Selmer. The Selmer currently just feels a bit too freeblowing for me. I have played on the S80 for about 6 months and I got the JodyJazz HR* last month so just have to find a reed for it that isn't as bright as the Studio Cut, but so far I like the feel of it over the Selmer.

  • @kadenn8811
    @kadenn88114 жыл бұрын

    1 and 4 sounded the best to me. The lows on 1 and 4 sounded less harsh but other than that they were pretty close. I'm guessing 1 and 4 are the pro mouthpieces.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    4 definitely isn't, haha.

  • @naomiigashima9443
    @naomiigashima94433 ай бұрын

    Not so sure if my idea is correct or not. I think that for sound that coming out from a horn is a matter of a mouthpiece, and an instrument is more a matter of fingering playability and mechanism. Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm going to buy my first sax soon and that's my mindset for choosing my first one. Don't wanna make a mistake and regret later.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    3 ай бұрын

    I think as a general rule that's pretty correct, but there are definitely some horns that sound "different" than others. Ergonomics and build quality though are the main things to look for.

  • @Samcatiscool
    @Samcatiscool4 жыл бұрын

    Great playing like always, Dave. Although, this time I do have a question. I’ve been on a new horn for a awhile now, and I’ve been looking into vintage horns. I’m torn between the Conn 10m and Mark vi (tenor). What are some good things about each one? Specifically the Conn. I’m already pretty knowledgeable on the legendary Mark Vi.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you take price out of the equation, the Mark VI blows the 10m out of the water in my opinion. The keywork on the Conn is brutal but the overall tone is really good. The big thing is value- those Conns can be had for a GREAT deal, while the VI’s price is way up there. Depends on your situation for sure!

  • @Samcatiscool

    @Samcatiscool

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dave Pollack thanks for the response, Dave! I’ll definitely keep that in mind. And while on the topic of affordable vintage horns, what are a few that you recommend?

  • @ngtamphuong

    @ngtamphuong

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you love vintage horns, Buescher Big B is also a great choice. My brother just got one for only $1000, plus $250 for overhauling and the result is a fabulous horn with that great vintage sound.

  • @robstevens9590
    @robstevens95904 жыл бұрын

    From listening (from the blind test) I would rate them (from best to worst) 1, 3, 4, 2.

  • @anquaviousshahab1678
    @anquaviousshahab16783 жыл бұрын

    how about yamaha sax use selmer neck

  • @forge333kreyon
    @forge333kreyon4 жыл бұрын

    I actually liked the pro mouthpiece with the student saxophone for #1 then the pro mouthpiece with pro sax 2nd.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think people like the brightness the YTS-23 adds to the warmness of the 10mfan mouthpiece

  • @littoralgrundig2303
    @littoralgrundig23034 жыл бұрын

    What are those songs you played? Real beautiful melodies, especially the ballad. Maybe that's just your playing idk

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    The ballad was Pure Imagination and for the swing song I just solo’d over a bird blues (Blues for Alice changes)

  • @littoralgrundig2303

    @littoralgrundig2303

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@DavePollack Thanks. No wonder why that sounded so familiar.

  • @WolfgangausMuenchen
    @WolfgangausMuenchen4 жыл бұрын

    In my ears, all examples sounded almost the same and they all sound great! Perhaps the differences are more between a setup, the player is more accustomed to (so, I guess, pro plus pro) and the setups, the player is not so accustomed to...

  • @sokanadenramasawmy2143
    @sokanadenramasawmy21434 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot for the video Dave but dont you think that the right way to blow in a mouthpiece that matters for a good sound please let me know your opinion

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course how you blow air into the mouthpiece matters a lot, but this was a gear comparison video.

  • @juancamarena3295
    @juancamarena32954 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion #1 & #4 was not as resonant as #2 & #3

  • @theludicrouslime
    @theludicrouslime4 жыл бұрын

    I think the real debate that needs to be settled is how to pronounce Rovner.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was "Rahv-ner" but I would get comments saying I was wrong and it's "Rove-ner" so I guess that's actually right? Haa

  • @lokiofasgard7780

    @lokiofasgard7780

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hov-nay

  • @donl9571
    @donl95714 жыл бұрын

    #1 P+P #2 S+S #3 Student mouthpiece, pro horn; #4 pro mouthpiece, student horn

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    0/4!

  • @RyanAlexanderBloom
    @RyanAlexanderBloom4 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing mouthpiece... let’s see. 2134 best to worst. Ok well it looks like I liked the pro sax but the student mouthpiece. So my initial thought was wrong. But student-student definitely sounds the worst. So I think upgrading anything is always better than upgrading nothing. That’s probably the takeaway.

  • @lkj974
    @lkj9744 жыл бұрын

    The first notes of the first selection on the third combo sounded out of tune to me, and that threw me. I consistently liked the number 2 combo. Go figure. Not the result I was expecting. Would have to say they all sounded pretty similar: they all sounded like you.

  • @jazzmorgan859
    @jazzmorgan8594 жыл бұрын

    i think the pro mouthpiece sounded best on the student sax

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting - what about it did you like? Student horn definitely was a brighter sound (to my ears)

  • @jazzmorgan859

    @jazzmorgan859

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dave Pollack hmm the pro sax had a fatter low register but I like the brightness on top on the student one

  • @archiecarino_sax

    @archiecarino_sax

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DavePollack To summarized my listening... Yea Dave 1&3 is obviously the best but I thought that 1 is the pro M pro S..I reallized from this video that the mouthpiece makes all the difference. Thanks for this video! =)

  • @brianmatthews232
    @brianmatthews2323 жыл бұрын

    The player :-)

  • @kevindeibert3369
    @kevindeibert33692 жыл бұрын

    4 sounds a little thinner to me

  • @smoke09able
    @smoke09able4 жыл бұрын

    You made all four samples sound good Dave but your pro set-up seem to be the most robust.

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! And I agree - I love my tenor setup!

  • @1dotele

    @1dotele

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavePollack what year is your 10M? I don't think I have seen one with the under slung octave

  • @ZachCalin_
    @ZachCalin_4 жыл бұрын

    Guesses: #1 - Student horn pro mouthpiece #2 - Pro horn Pro mouthpiece #3 - Pro horn student mouthpiece #4 - Student horn student mouthpiece Best-worst: 1. #2 2. #1 3. #3 4. #4 Edit: I at least got 1 and 4 right

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's tough when you can't see!

  • @slightly_tooned
    @slightly_tooned4 жыл бұрын

    I said 3 best, then 1, 4, 2

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nailed it!

  • @MarMarMedia
    @MarMarMedia4 жыл бұрын

    You can really tell the difference between pro and pro against student and student

  • @OldAssSax
    @OldAssSax4 жыл бұрын

    Umm 1. P/P 2. P/S 3. S/P 4. S/S

  • @kevindeibert3369
    @kevindeibert33692 жыл бұрын

    ….it’s the player !

  • @johnrogers7411
    @johnrogers74114 жыл бұрын

    Thought best 4, 1, 3, 2 worst

  • @bradleywilliams9225
    @bradleywilliams92254 жыл бұрын

    1 Pro mouth student sax 2 pro sax student mouth (i'm most sure about this one due to a little sharp pitch but smooth familiar fingerings) 3 pro pro 4 student student

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bam, nailed it

  • @99jdave99
    @99jdave994 жыл бұрын

    #1: pro pro #2: student student #3: pro student #4: student pro order: 1 3 4 2

  • @danielryanmusic
    @danielryanmusic4 жыл бұрын

    I just hear to fine out the name of this tune lol

  • @DeMariThompson
    @DeMariThompson3 жыл бұрын

    Did you play the willy Wonka theme

  • @jaywills5776
    @jaywills57763 жыл бұрын

    It's pronounced "rovner"

  • @DavePollack

    @DavePollack

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was “rovner?”

  • @jaywills5776

    @jaywills5776

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DavePollack no, definitely "rovner"

  • @samondaatje3604
    @samondaatje36044 жыл бұрын

    studeant moutbhpiece bad

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