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@glirving1

6 жыл бұрын

Forty Times Around thank you

@douglasmacy709

5 жыл бұрын

I already bought one :)

@Sig721Tau

5 жыл бұрын

How about not parking on hatd surfaces where you are unable to drive a tent stake into the ground.

@MusicalMemeology

Жыл бұрын

It would help with the whole world if you added metric conversions on screen. North America is the only part of the world that doesn’t use metric which means you miss out on Europe and Australia/NZ.

@MusicalMemeology

Жыл бұрын

You should also add Amazon links to things you suggest like repair kit and tarp and pegs!

One door at least 2 is ideal. I purchased a tent with no door, I am still in there help!

@traveldavid6085

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahahaha!

@hitmanpraveen9950

2 жыл бұрын

Call out Khabib, He will find you XD

@christopher2399

Жыл бұрын

If there was no door, how did you get inside?😮

I've been Moto Camping for years and this video is spot on. Just a couple of points from an older rider. I switched to a 3 person to gain height for getting dressed in the morning. I'm just not as nimble as I used to be. Vestibule you mentioned but folks reading this may underestimate its importance. Love the garage analogy. This is so true. Put the smelly gear outside! First time watcher and new subscriber. Thanks for the video!

Because of this video, I just bought Kelty's late start 2. It's perfect. Thank you for your sage advice.

That is genuinely one of the best videos I've seen, you talk a lot of sense. Thanks for the vids.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark for your comment I really appreciate it. Thank you for watching. Safe Travels!

This was surprisingly helpful! I have owned a few tents over the years and thought I knew all I needed to know, but Tim told us some things I never considered. Tim does a great job with these videos. He should have his own tv show.

Thanks for putting this together Tim! I thought I had a suitable tent but you really mentioned a lot of good points! Excellent video!👍✌️😀

I have that same Eureka tent. It has served me well many times over the years and it has performed well in wind and rain.

I've been hiking for decades , but you never stop learning! .. With the bike on the road, fantastic tip from Forty times around.... pack poles on outside - stuff tent into any gap in the panniers! Thankyou! :)

What a great informational video. I'm going to share this with our HOG chapter and to our local motorcycle riding group. Thank you for the links as well.

I like your review of different types of tents. I settled on the MSR Elixir 3. It can be free-standing, although I stake it down whenever possible. The Elixir line includes the fly and footprint. It has 2 doors and 2 vestibules. One thing I do is carry an extra seal bag to put the tent in if it's wet when I pack up in the morning. The seal bag keeps the tent from getting other stuff wet. I've used a tarp as a footprint, but I fold it so the edge is just under the tent. If you don't do this, the tarp will conduct rainwater to the floor of the tent, but I assume that's not a problem in AZ.

Was waiting for you to say something that I didn't have but it was really cool to hear that I've got a tent that checks all those boxes!

Excellent review. I used the Redverz Solo tent on a recent 25,000 km trip through Africa. I agree it is a bit bulky, but when the rain is coming down in sheets, the wind is howling with thunder and lightning adding to the spectacle, being able to sit tight in that “garage” section with a cup of coffee is just the biz!

Packing the poles separately is brilliant. The poles will fit into areas that that entire tent cannot. The tent will then be able to be packed smaller and like you stated, if you have to strap your tent poles to the outside of the bike, who cares? Excellent advice. Thank you sir for that golden nugget.

This was a really informative episode. My experiences mirror your recommendations. Well done!

Great, informative video. To solve the stake issue in the desert I've used rocks and trees to tie off to. Or I've put rocks on top of the stakes to keep them from pulling out. It helps to have something like a strong Ti nail stake to make pilot holes for the weaker stakes. This is a relatively common problem in the backpacking world.

Thanks much. Excellent explanation. And the perfect timing for me as I am currently looking for a tent for motorcycle trips.

3 person Eureka! tent. Quality built, light, strong, fast, dry .. perfect! 😁

This video is spot on. Even though I would mention that with heavier duty deniers the tent tends to get heavier too, so that's something to keep in mind. Also, something you didn't mention is the waterproofness of the tent. Especially for the bottom. It's really no fun waking up surrounded by little pools of water due to rainfall.

Really good video. We discovered all of these the old fashion way...experience. You were spot on regarding all aspects.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jim for you comment appreciate it very much.

Great Video, I've watched it several times. A lot of great information. Thanks!

Like you, I also discovered that a two person tent was more ideal. I can put all I need in there and have plenty of me room, my helmet serves the purpose of dumping all my pocket items into and my small mag light, makes it easier to find in the dark. I do keep my boots in tent as well and they make a nice cradle for keeping the helmet from tipping over. My sleeping bag for moderate weather is a fleece bag that packs well and it can be unzipped completely to just use for a layer on tent floor or as a blanket, pretty versatile. When rolled it makes great place to hold the tent poles.

Makes sense, excellent analysis.. I might add.. Never buy a tent on the road, at night. Yrs ago we purchased a pup tent from FM. The pic looked good on the box and was cheap. Good enough. When we set it up it became apparent why it was cheap.. It was a kid's tent. 😥

Great video -- you give a lot of great tips all around, especially those about tent size and the stakes. "2-person" really just means that two people can fit in there to sleep and doesn't consider gear, sleep systems, and general comfort. And if you're anywhere that is not a seasoned campground, it is likely the ground will not be ideal for staking, so you'll want good stakes for that. Thankfully, I was a backpacker before a motorcycle camper, so the 'pack light' mentality was there, and I had all the gear I needed. The roof-only concept on a tent sounds great in terms of weight, but especially if you're in the desert, you'll want to have a barrier between you and all the fun creatures that come out at night (scorpions, spiders, snakes, etc.). Thanks for the video, and your channel in general. Watching has helped feed my excitement for my upcoming trips and has taken some of the sting off the extended winter we've had here in the midwest.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Dave thank you! I am glad you are enjoying my videos! Hopefully winter will come to an end soon up there! Ride safe my friend, see you on the road!

Great video on tents, very informative for newer moto-campers. Here's a tip regarding tent placement I learned the hard way. It's nearly impossible to find truly "level" spot for your tent. After you put down your tent footprint down and before you set up your tent, lay down on the footprint to determine which way the ground slopes. Reorient or relocate the footprint if necessary.

I really enjoy your vids. Very informative. I've been doing quite a bit of "moto-camping" myself over the past few years. Quite often mixing some fishing and/or hunting with it. I get asked for advice on gear myself and my response is 'if it works for backpacking it will work for moto-camping, with the exceptions being the extra luxury items that a bike can carry, (Chairs, tables, cots, inflatables for fishing and the like).

Honest and sensible advice. Thank you :)

Thank you for the very informative video, I am new to tent camping on my bike and decided to start off with a less expensive tent. I will see how well I like the experience. I did have to explain to my wife why I wanted a two person tent for just me.

this is a great channel you do a great job have learnt lots after watching 4 of your videos

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you alastair for your comment and for watching ! Safe Travels!

Good tens that also save on weight: Kelty, Big Agnes, Hyke & Byke, & Marmot Tents which are dome tents and in 1-4p sized tents.

Good idea about the tarp as footprint. I also carry and set up a light tarp in front of my tent to extend the vestibule. So when I get out of the tent during or after rain, its great to have an additional 10x10' dry area to get ready, do your hygiene and cook food - also to get your tent ready and packed dry. When my friends and I arrive, the tarp is the first thing we set up. Also I can recommend umbrella dome tents. They are a bit bulkier & heavier (8 pounds), but the great thing about them is that - even in total darkness, rain or very windy situations - they are ready in less than a minute.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you fro your comment it is much appreciated!

Great vid and a tip from a long termer...keep your fly separate to the main tent if you live or visit areas with overnight dew or rain. Keeps the main tent dry. Dry is good.

Lots of good info, Tim. Thanks much for sharing. Loving your videos.

Good video, helps me with picking a tent out for my trip up to alaska on my bike

I used an MSR Hubba Hubba two person tent for a bike trip across Europe over the Alps in 2008. Over 10 years later I'm still using it an camping trips in the UK. Very light, mostly free standing, two entrances that let a draught through, and two vestibules for boots, etc. Pacs small enough to fit in one of my panniers with lots of room to spare. Seam tape is now disintegrating so will use some seam sealer, and its good for another ten years.

Again you provide great information. Thanks. Stay safe.

Great video. Wish this video was out two years ago when I was searching for a motorcycle tent. I looked at every tent in existence and spent hours/days looking at them. Finally got a Marmot Tungsten 2p. One thing, I carry two Coleman 10 inch stakes with the green tabs, if the ground is very hard these will at least hold the fly down and will drive in concrete lol

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I wish this video was out when I was purchasing a tent! There are so many factors to weigh in, and so many tents to choose from! LOL I know the ones you mean, I could see those driving into concrete! I should pick some of those stakes up!

6:31 best advice you can give. Two person is a minimum. Also if the weather gets really bad you need some space to spread out and relax. Nobody wants to weather a storm in a phone booth.

@archygrey9093

4 жыл бұрын

Need space for the gear you don't want to get wet too

always like a 3 man tent for 1 person not much more to weight but a lot more room, for biking of canoe tripping, also came in handy when a young women got her tent flooded out the first night on a trip was able to give her a spot in mine so she had a dry place to sleep. I also like some head room in a tent at least be able to get on my knees and be straight up from my knees up, makes it much easier to get dressed. Great video. will have to get one of those patch kits.

I tent camp at least once a year and definitely want to do more. So.. while it's not my first rodeo.. this was still great info. You know.. there's always the chance that someone knows how to do it better. Good stuff. (And, yes, I did learn something.)

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, I am glad you got something out of it! Thanks!

Great channel, this is the video I’ve been needing! Thanks!

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!

I am envisaging camping and that’s sound advice. Thanks for sharing.

Good sensible info. You know what your talking about because you've done it. Not a lot of wasted words...good stuff.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert! I appreciate the compliment. Glad you enjoyed my video.

Tim, Thanks for all the vids!! Helps a lot!.. I live in Florida. But every year I go to Oregon and from there ride to surrounding states, Washington this year!! So excited!!!

Great video. I also carry an SW MOTECH tent bag. Great for the tent and poles, especially on those mornings when you wake up to the dreaded sound of rain and want to pack up that wet, soggy tent and keep it away from your (hopefully) other dry stuff. Also, strap it on top and it is the first thing you pull off when you get to the camp sight.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Those dry bags are great I actually fit all my camping gear in one bag except for my sleeping bag. Makes setting up camp so much easier. Thanks for the comment!

The best review on tents!

Wal-Mart Ozark trail 2 person backpacking tent. Use scotch guard on it and seam sealer with a regular blue tarp as a ground sheet. Light, small, packable and budget friendly.

@STho205

5 жыл бұрын

Louie Watson. I'm leaning to that too. I have used the tarp off the bike and bivy for years. The 2.5 lb backpacking Amazon tent for $55 has excellent reviews by hikers, has the integrated floor, and easily stuffs into a tiny bag. You just have to find two 42" sticks or go between two trees.

Great show, I watched it to see if I was doing every thing right.I have a 4 season 3 person tent and it has lots of large vents, front and back and the back is also another door. It has a large vestibule on the front and a smaller at the rear. I have a large tarp so I can stay clean entering the tent. I also use aluminum tent poles, they stand up better then fiberglass in strong wind. I actually bought 8 inch nails for tent pegs.

Great video. Lots of info Good work. Tim. Love your down to earth presentation style Thank you

Wow another great video Tim, lots of excellent advice, thank you

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Nothing quite like the Bibbler Ahwanee single-wall tent. Backpacked and rode (bicycle, that is) that thing all over and in the worst of weather. I carried a seven-pound Moss four season before that. Both literal bomb shelters and added to all the negative gravitational drag (until downhills :-). Now that I am old and weak I carry a light and big-assed Big Agness three season at half the weight, and ten times as easy to set up, on a moto instead of one of those on my back or MTB. I've seen it all and you, Mr. FTA, give good and practical advice on these matters of moto travel. I'll keep watching as I swing to the Dark Side LOL

Great video and your experience echoes my own. Dont underestimate the value of a little extra room. Mine is a 2-3 person tent and I still sleep on the diagonal. Never seem to sort out what makes the best pillow. Be interested to see a video on sleeping mats I have a self inflating one which is great. Been watching As the Magpie Flies she can be hilarious.

Good info and things to consider. I travel a fair amount on my touring MC. Try to pack light, had a North Face Tadpole tent (still do) but it was narrow and low, had to lay down to slide pants on. Now my go to tent is a Coleman half dome 2 person. Works pretty well and free standing, room for gear and only $45. Sprayed couple cans water proofing to inside and outside seams, stayed dry in rain 3 times.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Larry. Good point about spraying with water proofing, I will be sure to try that out on my tent.

Appreciate the advice. Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Good advice. Nicely crafted video. I use a Hilleberg Nallo2 for short trips and a Keron 4GT for longer ones. Arguably overkill for motorcycle camping , but I like the quality and the fact they will never let me down.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Max. I will check those tents out, always curious what is working for other people. Ride safe!

Solid advice. All of it. One of those rare videos where I agree with every syllable of it. I've owned a bunch of tents and while I do like my $650 Hilleberg Anjan 2 tunnel tent, it does requires stakes and I bent half of them on my first cycle trip. In a lot of ways my $120 Eureka! 2 person dome tent was much better.

Thank you for your advises. I came to the same conclusion. One Tip from me: If you have great vestibules, try to put your tent diagonal on your floor protection. this way you can maximize the area covered by your ground tarp and your vestibule. Hope that helps.

that is very useful video mate ! thank you very much!

Great video, you just saved a lot of people a lot of beginner mistakes

Very good advice due to experience. Thank you kind Sir.

Thanks for the tips! That’s really great to know! Now I can go get what I really need and want!👍👍😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, good luck picking out a tent!

thanks for this video. Very useful.

Tim, I have a mountain hardwear 4 season tent that weighs 2 pounds. Complete- that’s counting tent poles stakes rope. Granted I have some other mountaineering 4 season tents that are too heavy! After those older tents (10-12 pounds)I went on the search for lighter everything. So in the mountains it gets cold, it snows, it rains. The other criteria is I can sit up in the tent without hitting the roof. I always use 2 person tents and always use a footprint. It adds to the weight (6-8 oz) but protects the tent investment. I have used homemade and home made footprints.

Very informative. Thanks!

Hello Fellow Arizonan! Great video and learned quite a bit from a few of your videos. Recently started riding and love camping. This and other videos big help in deciding what to bring. Most of my first trips will be on weekends. Can't wait and maybe will see you out there!

@FTAAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Bruce! Thank you, that means a lot to me. Have fun moto camping, maybe I will see you out there one day!

Very helpful video, just rewatched. I'm looking for a smaller and lightweight one to take in my suitcase when flying. Thanks!!

Wow what a great informative video helps take all the guess work out of finding the right tent. Thanks for the information Nice bikes too......

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks pal! Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks, the white bike is okay, I prefer the beemer though!

Great advice thanks for sharing with us all.👍🇬🇧

Greetings Tim! I recently purchased a tent, and after spending several nights over a couple trips in it, I feel I can recommend it to those looking for a lower cost option: Alps Lynx 2. Light weight, easy set-up and take down, and the pole segments are 18" long so a compact package all around. The floor is thin but I use a lightweigh 5X7 tarp. Full coverage fly which I havent used yet (So and central cali, even the nights at altitude are warm enough and no rain). The Lynx 1 is even lighter, smaller, and cheaper if you dont mind the size.

Nailed it . I would like to upgrade to a freestanding tent from the 2 person hoop style I'm still using from my back packing days. I've run into a few issues with staking it down, having to use rocks or logs. It works works great in snow and high winds however, and is a bit more low profile for wild camping. But ya going to keep my eye out for a new two person tent this season. Thankx for the informative video Tim.

@FTAAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nathan! I have been happy with my switch to a free standing from hoop style. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks for the vid.... been camping for 25yrs on a bike and I have the same Nemo in the vid.... amazing tent replaced a very old MSR also decent.... only one comment - I know you mention use a tarp for protection of tent bottom sure but I live in PNW and rain is guaranteed a perfect sized footprint I find is mandatory - due if any part of the tarp is outside of fly the tarp will funnel water directly under you rather than getting to the ground - footprint is worth the price I think.... Also about the Nemo you can get an inside footprint in fleece - super thin, clips in and stays in tent when packed and I find it makes tent a bit warmer under cot. Lastly the storage bag for the Nemo is so compartmentalized it makes packing so much quicker. Can you tell I love Nemo. Thanks again !!

Coleman Darwin 3 and Coleman Bedrock 2, 2 great tents for motorcycle camping, just change out the tent pegs for heavy duty and take a small mallet. Travelled all over Europe with both, and in ridiculous weather conditions from hot, to damn right wet. Also have the Coleman Tasman 3 but it is slightly bigger than the other two, but again still a good tent for motorcycle camping. Will look at a dome tent from MSR in the future if I ever camp in rock hard desert.

Sierra mountain 3 man tent is great for me. l have lots of room for me with gear. This also allows home base when exploring. It too is external pole allowing fast set up / disassemble... Perhaps it may weigh 2.5lbs. l bought larger tarp to cuddle over tent extending entrance.. l sometimes bring "Ag-Bag" for site coverage in storms. l installed snap eyes for tie down... Good video...

I tend to put my boots, jacket, gloves and riding pants pads in the drybag I stuff/compress my sleeping bag into. They can then live dry inside or outside the shelter AND creatures can't crawl inside and surprise you. The bag can double as a pillow.

Perfect, thank you for your service!

@FTAAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I appreciate that.

Good vid. One tip I would add is for riders to determine where in luggage or on bike they'd like to place the tent --- and measure that space. Then select a tent that fits. Sorta disagree with your remark that shoppers are looking at 18" to 24" of packed length. Those lengths are common but longer than necessary. The $150 Kelty Salida 2 packs to 15" long. So does a cheap $80 Featherstone Granite that I'm using. If my tent was much longer than 15", I couldn't fit it in my pannier. Good to see you've seen the light re the silliness of 1-person tents for moto camping. 1-person tents are for hikers, not bikers LOL.

great video! would like to add that if you use a tarp as a ground sheet, cut it to size so it doesn't stick outside of your outer tent, otherwise it will accumulate rain and possible make it flow in between your tent and the tarp. I learned that the hard way, not even the tents with the bathtub style will keep the water out :)

Well done. Thank you for sharing. Buen Camino

I've been long range traveling for quite a few year but I'm really getting tired of the increasingly crappy and expensive hotels out there, so I'm going to start camping more. I'm really glad that I watched this vid because I was poised to purchase the Redverz or Lone Rider tents but I did think about how ridiculously big and heavy they are until you mentioned it. I rarely stay in one place for more than a day so I want something that is easy to assemble and take down, as well as more compact. I like that you pointed out the free-standing aspect. That is something that I didn't consider.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you again for another great comment! Good point weight is so important on long trips and the difference between a 12 lb. tent and a 2 lb. tent is big !

@cs5842

6 жыл бұрын

try the marmot tungsten 2p

Thanks for the info. Good video !

Great Vid, Tim.

Great video! Old guy just scratching the surface, tight budget, rsmf ✌️

I have a Nemo inflatable tent, it comes with a foot pump. It has two air bladders that create arches. Sets up in about two minutes and does very well in windy conditions.

I’m pleased to see you criticise the ridiculous redvers “mototorcycle “ tent! Here in Europe we like Hilleberg. For motorcycle trips the new Allak 3 is the best you can get. It’s like the familiar Allak 2 (fab vestibules and two doors !) ... but with more room for bike gear.

Fantastic. Thanky ou so much

Great Vid ,I use the same set up for the same reasons ( even down to the tarp )

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul I appreciate the comment and thank you for watching. Safe Travels!

For solo riding and camping, I've pretty well settled on a "3" person tent. For me and gear that is just right. The funny thing is, when I am camping with a passenger and lose that part of the seat to pack stuff, I have to drop down to the 2 person tent to save room and that means most of the gear has to live in the hard bags and trunk 90% of the time on the bike. At least being crowded does have some compensations.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Great point! I think a three person tent would be great for the amount of gear that I use too! And yes, traveling with a companion comes with perks and sacrifices for sure! Thanks!

Great tips on the tent. Appreciate the informed video

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed my video!!!

@Stoney3K

6 жыл бұрын

You've also got those "2 seconds" springy pop-up tents. They're easiest to set up but they're almost impossible to pack on a motorcycle because they pack down to a flat circular disc.

Very Nice Informative Video !, Thank You !

Very useful and practical Vid .. tnx

been looking for a mc tent for a long time, like your non BS review~

Thanks mate, a very good review.

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment I really appreciate it ! Safe travels!

Good video, i have a tent just like that, and i didn´t knew it that they are the best for moto camping. Another things to be said is: 1- choose well your sleeping bag, a warm one is good, if it is too warm , you can always take it off, 2 - put locks on your bike, three for example, 3 - put an alarm. 4 - Carry two guns loaded, on safety mode. 5 - If you can, take a light cover for your bike with you.

Good review thanks👍👍

Awesome video man . Great info

@FTAAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jim! I appreciate that!

Will keep in mind

Great video man!

Great advice here. I kayak camp for expeditions and use a Salewa Lite trek 3 as it is lightweight, big enough for my 6’5” frame and to bring the gear in when it snows. Always go as big as you can but light. 3 person maximum if it’s lightweight and small as the Salewa is. Also pitches in one or two pieces. For example the outside first or both together. Absolutely important to be able to pitch the outer section first as the inner part stays dry. You can then decamp by packing away the inner tent while under the fly, keeps it drying yourself dry until the last minute. . The outer part doesn’t matter as it gets stuffed in a cram sack and off you go. In Serbia I was on the Danube in winter at -21 C with 8 inches of snow and Romania three days later with 70kph winds. Stayed dry and warm. And never had to second guess my gear. Always invest in good tents, they will save your life.

Great vids. Thank you..

Nailed it buddy! I have tons of tenting & moto experience and you mentioned everything I would of. It'd be nice to see what tents / models in particular you like. cheers, Clay D

@FTAAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clay! Glad you enjoyed this video. I did a review on my main tent recently. I am planning to do more tent reviews in the future. Ride safe!