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The Shipbreaker's Toolkit (18:17) is such an elegant way to add ship combat to the system without making an entire minigame separate from the rest of the experience. The deluxe box is functional art. Heck, there is even plenty of room for more pamphlets or dice in containment room A. One of the best TTRPG things I own, so excited to run more of it

I really hope more games use box sets like this! I like it when everything you need is in one box!

@anabell.21

Ай бұрын

YEAH. oh man I love games in boxes.

@ebrim5013

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. A bunch of dusty obscure books also does si little for approachability. One should be able to reach on the shelf for a box like with many other games.

@VanDavis

Ай бұрын

The Black Hack 2nd Edition had a really great one, also!

@leandronc

Ай бұрын

I'm a fan of the Mausritter boxes, beautiful things, very well layed out and usable.

You know this Game is groundbreaking when Ben and Dave are covering it👌

@09lonedrone

Ай бұрын

Which Dave? I might be missing out

Maybe the most pleasing Kickstarter package I’ve ever received.

Best Referee's Book I've ever read. Great job!

@decoydave73

Ай бұрын

This! ^ I've been playing rpgs since 1981, and this may be the best gamemaster's guide for any game I've ever owned. Most gamemaster's books are just a collection of special-case rules (falling, drowning, etc.) packaged with other GM-facing information (bestiary, treasures, campaign world description, etc.) As Ben points out, the Warden's Operation Manual focuses on practical how-to advice. And it's so concise!

Ben's so right about the guidance Mothership 1e gives for new GMs--I say that generally rather than Warden's because there's really great advice for various sandbox or loose-module games. Another Bug Hunt is a great guide in this respect, putting the advice from the ref books into some practice. I feel there's a lot of concrete lessons here for Death in Space or SWN GMs. Anyway, very happy with my Mothership 1e deluxe box. Worth the [long] wait, got my risky money's worth. Now, to find folks who might be interested. Ah well.

First rule i'm changing is the skill improvement rules. My plan is to treat it like CoC and Delta Green. Use a skill, check mark.. if you survive, roll over it and get a +dX. This is a reaction to what my players find enjoyable.

@VanDavis

Ай бұрын

YESSSS!

@Bluecho4

Ай бұрын

Improving skills with years of training works a lot better for campaigns where the protagonists are spending long periods NOT having horror adventures, punctuated by brief instances of spookiness. It can work, but it requires a lot more buy-in compared to a rapid succession of adventures.

Been waiting for this review since my standard boxed set came in the mail! Love it and can't wait to run first edition with my other Mothership modules. The conversion pamphlet is another great tool. Thanks again Ben!

Loved how the game is not just a game, but it also gives tons of advice on how to make a game. Nice!

Great dive into the box!

Thanks for restoring some of my enthusiasm for the game! It's been a rocky road and I'm still waiting for my package but I'm looking forward to it now at least!

Thank you for covering this. Love all your content. If anyone is interested in how the game can play out I've been watching The Panic Table - Unaccompanied Miners and other actual plays to see how different wardens handle the rules. Can't wait to play!

Welp, I’m sold!

Great video!. Interesting game. Thx!

got mine a few days ago!

Thank you.

I just found this game and I'm hugely impressed. I'm currently considering whether to get this version or the core set as I like the smaller black box. Will all the booklets fit into the core box together if I buy the extra books at a later date?

Stellar product that all RPG publishers should study. I still feel some negativity due to the messy Kickstarter but the box is fantastic and I am sure TKG have learned a lot. Looking forward to future products by them!

I love this game system, I would also highly recommend cloud princess

I love my copy I got through Kickstarter. Going to run my first game this Friday. My only complaint is on the box size. The height matches the digest sized books on my shelf, but hangs over the edge due to its length. If I turn it on its end to place with my D&D sized book, it is actually too tall to fit. I guess it will have to be a set piece.

@rdmsh

Ай бұрын

I’m similar. It’ll be very difficult to fit on shelves

Very cool concept. Do you think it would play well with miniatures? The stargrave minis seem like they could work well. Theater of the mind is hard for my group.

@rdmsh

Ай бұрын

Space stations and ships are very similar to dungeon crawling. Constrained rooms, with (broken) doors, with corridors connecting

Looks great, trying to justify getting it... How well would you say it compares to the official Alien rpg or something like Void? (hard scifi horror with Mythos elements from the makers of Cthulhutech)

@shobooknight

Ай бұрын

It's very rules light even compared to a less crunchy system like Alien which can be a good or a bad thing depending on your perspective. I think it's more flexible if you want to tell a story that's not close to those of the alien franchise.

I Love ALL Questing Beast videos! Watching this video makes me miss Star Frontiers. My players only want to play fantasy.

Dag. I just walked through Louis the XIV's chambers in Versailles and that's the only reason I can handle the sheer baroque excess of this. Sean deserves a cornet or something.

For some reason I heard it as corset, not core set.

Is the deluxe set available? Thought it was kickstarter/pre-order exclusive

@shobooknight

Ай бұрын

Yes, through their website. Afaik only the cloth patches were exclusive to the kickstarter

@gariko

Ай бұрын

@@shobooknight I've had a look, was pretty apparent on the kickstarter campaign page that the deluxe set is kickstarter exclusive. So didn't think it would be fair to review on a product that wouldn't be publicly available

@shobooknight

Ай бұрын

​@@garikoyes, the version sold through kickstarter was exclusive as it had the exclusive patch. You can get the deluxe box without the exclusives (i.e. everything shown in the video) from their website.

I'm sold! But shipping to Europe is way too expensive...

Ben on the top

Hello, is it true that there's already a 2nd edition? If so, is it better purchase this edition or the new one?

@jorxfrux

Ай бұрын

Mothership 1st edition is actually the second edition of the game, the most recent one. The original one before this was 0th edition. So yes, you should get this one

@zombielandiii2711

Ай бұрын

@@jorxfrux Thanks!

I have a lot of this content already (Gradient Descent, Player's survival guide, Pound of Flesh) but the combination of the bestiary and warden's guide plus this very fancy box is making it very difficult to resist the gravitational pull of this financial black hole... I think I'm already on the event horizon... if anyone gets this message, tell them I was Mothershipped

Extremely minor nitpick: the GM screens are (almost insignificantly) different between the deluxe and the core box. If a GM screen is a tool you really appreciate to run games, it may be worth looking into the differences.

@dylanhughes8457

Ай бұрын

Is ther place where I can see the difference?

@MGunnarson

Ай бұрын

@@dylanhughes8457 kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYFtm6WDZrSWm6Q.htmlsi=N4s2EFClF4TZq7Yd I compare the two screens around the 30-minute mark. Tl;dw the Core Set screen is significant shorter, I think like A5 landscape, and the deluxe screen includes some extra tables/info. Another (teeny tiny) difference: the deluxe set includes extra dice.

@shobooknight

Ай бұрын

I noticed the same thing but I think they are slightly different sizes too

@Wardenless_in_the_Void

Ай бұрын

The printable Warden's Screen on their website is the deluxe version I think.

I have this big box. Still have it in the shrink wrap. It took so long to arrive that I lost enthusiasm for it.

@rdmsh

Ай бұрын

Same with me. Also forgot they were staple bound and was disappointed the books felt so cheap compared to the box

@QuestingBeast

Ай бұрын

I just expect Kickstarters to take way long than originally anticipated. I backed a book 8 years ago that's only shipping out now. It's just the way it goes.

@bjhale

Ай бұрын

Whatever you do, don't back a board game. They are all 1.5 years late AT A MINIMUM, with a couple exceptional publishers.

@nomindseye

Ай бұрын

Well, that's your problem, really. Kickstarter is NOT a pre-order. Never put any money into a Kickstarter that you're not ready to lose. Doing anything else is just naive.

@DrWaites

Ай бұрын

@@nomindseye I can understand that. I have had a few KS that still haven't delivered. But I can tell you that even if I finally get those, I will also not be that excited. I've had a half dozen other Mothership Kickstarters that I've backed, all of which were launched, written, edited, illustrated, mapped, printed, and delivered in a fraction of the time this core set did.

I just don't like Mothership 🤷🏻