I don't remember who said this, but I heard some one call the Book of Mormon called "Biblical Fan Fiction". LOL So accurate!

@DaveSmith-pm2yq

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 If Paul met Jesus in a dark road. And God $%^& someones fiancé Why can't I be a prophet too? ~ Joseph Smith

@benjaminacuna8013

4 ай бұрын

Fan fiction of other fiction but yes

@the_devoteaser

4 ай бұрын

"New Testament" is also fan fiction

@fbwsrd9910

4 ай бұрын

It is essientally 19th century self insert fanfiction. They didn't have much literature to go off so people used the bible for their fantasies. But some people took it too far.

@kyleemeg2171

3 ай бұрын

@@the_devoteaserboth testaments are fan fiction

Oh boy I get it! It took me over 60 years to finally say “I am OUT” so proud of us!

@melaniemonaco774

2 ай бұрын

Better late than never , good for you❤

My dad told me that when he was on his mission he and his companion somehow got ahold of a Michael Jackson cd and his companion got a store to play it for them. He told me that he got teary eyed because of how homesick he was, how much he missed being able to listen to his own music, read his own books and talk to his friends. I felt so bad.

@jacquelinecallejas1390

Ай бұрын

Secret handshake to get into heaven? So basically more proof this is just Freemasonry gone haywire.

I remember those sad Mormon guys with their many layers and funeral outfits, sweating miserably in the middle of July at 34Celcius, standing there in the town square for hours, so lonely... I live in an atheistic european country so there's zero chance anyone cares... I find it so strange they think their dress code makes them look respectable - it makes them look tortured and unhealthy, and like victims of something despicable..

@huskytail

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I'm Bulgarian and grew up there and I remember so many young guys feeling so lost at the middle of the summer heat. The good thing is that at least some of them got regularly fed by different grandmas who felt the need to smother them with Bulgarian hospitality because no one else wanted to talk to them 😅. Poor guys.

@eldritchwulfe

Ай бұрын

They don't stand there to convert people, it's done to keep them in the cult. They will be ignored at best and sometimes ridiculed or worse and as you said standing there, suffering, without any result. However when they return to the compound they'll be welcomed with open arms and compassion. They're made to feel welcome in stark contrast to the outside world

the lil queer mormon inside is infinitely grateful for you - I left young and, as you put it, closed the door behind me. It was traumatic and I do not like to think about it often. But now my parents, whom I desperately tried to deconvert as a teen, and eventually accepted they'd never ever leave the faith, are now 15 years later, leaving - because of people like you. Thank you. Thank you for being brave sharing your story.

@fractalfelt

3 ай бұрын

alsoside note- very surprised no mention of "follow the prophet" in the most culty hymns tok lmao but as a socialized male, the girls camp song made me die a bit inside all over again- (also me & exmormon sisters frequently compared notes & they would often commiserate upon the blatant sexist manifestation of how shitty girls camp was compared to the funding high adventure got- a cabin & singalongs vs white water rafting + horsebackriding + pristine nature hikes + I heard somewards even did SCUBA)

@user-rv8yb2xj6z

3 ай бұрын

I just take the good part of religions the good activities and friendship helping each other humanitarian efforts and leave behind all the religious stuff now

There's a story on Reddit about a Mormon situation - a Mormon guy worked with a lady of Indigenous Native American heritage and became quite close to her and her family. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, her and her son were quite disconnected from their culture but she was actively trying to reconnect. When the son was staying over at his house with his family, he started teaching him about Mormon gospel and 'Lammonites' (whatever the hell that is) and she got super mad with him. This Mormon guy went on Reddit AITA thinking he did nothing wrong and basically got ripped to shreds. It was epic.

@Sleipnirseight

4 ай бұрын

Damn, I would love to read that one

@nohandlenotnow

3 ай бұрын

Wow! Lol! Opps! 👀

@Bleech606

3 ай бұрын

AITA is all fiction.

Wow. As a Christian this is all very eye opening. Never knew they had testimonies of Joseph Smith. Our testimonies are about how we came to faith and salvation in Jesus Christ. Thanks for sharing your story.

@jujuh.3491

3 ай бұрын

Oh yes, and many of us were forced to bear our testimony in front of large groups as teens, even those of us who did not want to. Which ends up being hours of mostly the same script said over and over. And parents in Utah will send their 5 or 6 yr old child up to the pulpit on fast Sunday to “bear their testimony” , once again they just repeat the same words with no feeling, and everyone eats it up.

@Jose-st3fq

3 ай бұрын

Yeah dude, I was raised Mormon and now I’m a Christian, the differences are insane

@GrandmaKnightLife

3 ай бұрын

@@Jose-st3fqwere you shown the evangelical diagram downplaying moral values when you became a Christian like I was?

@Jose-st3fq

3 ай бұрын

@@GrandmaKnightLife nah I was athiest for years after I left the Mormon church, I felt so betrayed I just jumped to atheism but finding Jesus Christ again is a long story basically, I was wayyyyy done with Mormonism by the time I converted to regular Christianity

@bsmith8166

Ай бұрын

How do you see through Mormonism, but not Christianity? Bro... it's the same thing. Use your critical thinking skills. They helped you escape mormonism, why did you stop there?

I thought that you were saying "Moronic Priesthood." I guess for handshakes to get into heaven, moronic kinda fits 🤣

@Lady.Skyelar

3 ай бұрын

I was hearing 'Ironic" 😂

Yaaassssss!!!! Congratulations, Alyssa! What a year for you! Your book should be here any day, and I can't wait. You're such an intelligent and unique voice in this growing and highly necessary exMo space. As the "church" hemorrhages members (the best and brightest), they need a safe place to land. I'm sure your book will be witty, informative, and fun. I love life outside of the c*lt for you. Your beautiful family and your freedom and your burgeoning career are more than enough. You don't need anyone to tell you what your own life should look like. ❤❤❤

@alyssadgrenfell

4 ай бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH

@phillisob

4 ай бұрын

@alyssadgrenfell Well you're an immense talent! Your Mormon Stories Podcast episodes were AWESOME and I was so freakin proud of you and how intelligently you articulated your points. I'm a fan for sure, and I'm here to stay! I've never been Mormon, but I was raised in a c*lt and have done over 15 years of research on Mormonism. You've quickly become one of my favorite channels because you're a bad@ss who finally found herself and is living a life as a good (and free!) person! ❤️❤️❤️

@Papiliodani

3 ай бұрын

​@@alyssadgrenfell Is your book out yet?

As someone who came to the realization that I was queer while still in an evangelical church, I feel you. You are raised to be so deeply honest and to count it as a virtue, and then when you practice that virtue, you are punished.

@kathyalex778

3 ай бұрын

Im so sorry you felt you couldn’t be honest

Nice compilation! I spent 5-ish years reading reddit exmo (I witnessed the birth of the CES Letter - which got me hooked!), so it's GREAT to see a vocal "wicked apostate" in the wild on YT!! As a nevermo, the pretentious mis-use of ecclesiastic terms (priest, bishop) makes my skin crawl... and there's no damn excuse for those obscenely expensive, useless temples. But the true toll this wretched brainwashing takes on YOU (insiders) is unimaginable to me - a million thumbs up for your bravery and honesty. ❤

I grew up Mormon, my parents left when I was about six after my dad came out as gay. My parents left together, my mom left because she wanted out and to support my dad. My brothers and I joined the church again at eight. By fourteen I decided to leave after hearing so many misogynistic comments and anti-gay things, this was when I realized I was gay. I was so scared and anxious that someone in my ward would find out and hurt me. My mother has recently entered the church again and I hope she doesn’t change and realizes that she was right leaving before. This religion is a cult and it’s disgusting what is allowed.

Okay but the Secret Garden and Prince of Egypt are still amazing 😭🥹 glad you at least got to watch those lol

as a former Orthodox Jew, I relate to this SO VERY MUCH. and I'm so glad that you-- like me-- have a spouse that clearly fully supports and respects you and who can and will learn and grow with you ❤️❤️❤️

I loved how your placed a copy of your book on the shelf in Desert Bookstore. Shit, you should have placed 50 copies of them all over the place.

That missionary music tiktok tho. I remember as a mormon missionary praying that a panic at the disco song would play, and one day a family we were having lunch with had a movie on and Ready to Go by panic at the disco played and I started crying. I literally thought it was a miracle from God. Also, my mission was over covid and my rules for music changed when I came to the US. The rule was that you could only listen to songs that you would hear in sacrament meeting, and even tho the EFY music was cringy and bad, I missed it so much.

2:25 😂 that must have been a hell of a relief society meeting. Reminds me of a time my mom sent me out of an activities committee planning meeting to get a "temple recommend" for going to one of those white hankie waving temple opening things. I went to the bishops office, we had a very honest conversation in which i told him i didn't think the church was true, and he told me i probably shouldn't go to the hankie waving thing, and i had to go back to the activities committee meeting and announce this to my mom in front of everyone.

No longer an active member. But when I was active my first and only calling was working in the library. I frequently had to bend from the waist to retrieve printed material for church members. I never had so many men look down the front of my dress.

My favorite fun fact is that the song about Kolob stole its tune from an old folk song “the world turned upside down” which is about how the world has gone crazy and people are doing stupid things. Fitting in some ways lol

@macdonald2k

28 күн бұрын

I thought it came from "Kingsfold" by Ralph Williams.

It's interesting how long leaving can take. So often I hear people say "she left the church in 19XY/20XY", as if that's a single defining year. No mention that for years someone went unfulfilled in the church, or that someone raised in the church has to spend years after dealing with that legacy.

What's so insane about these videos and her experience in the Mormon church, I can literally go verbatim with the fairly strict evangelical fundamental strongly conservative background I come from. I can somehow literally relate on so many levels because I experienced a lot of this myself down to having my computer monitored and not having an iPod as it would lead to sexual perversion. This is insane the similarities.

@Sleipnirseight

4 ай бұрын

Yep! There's something called the BITE model, which is a checklist to determine how high-control an organization is. All high-control groups use the EXACT same tactics, so it's no surprise you see so many parallels. You'll see it in outright cults, multi-level marketing, extreme political sects, and so-on.

I just finished reading your book. Now, my husband is starting to read it too. Thanks ❤

Clair de lune has made me cry too! I get it!!

13:12 what about amputees? What if they can't do the handshakes?

@kathrynrice3038

3 ай бұрын

Great question

@grantbeck9228

2 ай бұрын

easy solution. Mormons think your body will be perfected in heaven. So any amputee would have his limbs back in heaven after they die. All they have to do is learn how to do the handshakes and all the words they have to memorize when doing the handshakes and they would be good. The knowledge of how to do the handshakes would accompany them to heaven and their limbs will be restored, so all good. Its all total nonsense

@EthantotheMax

2 ай бұрын

their bodies will be perfect in the afterlife anyway

@MM-jf1me

2 ай бұрын

​@@EthantotheMax But how can they adequately go through the endowment ceremony as-is in this life in order to receive their blessings and also so that they may be able to properly learn the correct tokens?

Literally obsessed with these videos. I grew up atheist but with some VERY Mormon friends, and definitely grew up watching a lot of studio c and lindsay sterling. I cannot wait to read your book and learn even more

@mylesmarkson1686

4 ай бұрын

Lindsay Sterling is amazing. Well, she needs to chill out on her goony dance-moves and just focus on the violin, but other than that, yeah she's pretty good.

Your story is so inspiring, congratulations on your journey! I hope your work can help others find the same happiness you have

Very well said. You have far more compassion and empathy than The Church Corporation leaders.

You are so brave and you are having a great impact that can’t be calculated. Amazing work.

You're an angel. Your heart is so filled with love that there simply isn't room for cult beliefs,✌️❤️

You're really gorgeous and so smart! I'd be proud when my daughters grow to be adults with such awareness! Ps I'm a proud mama of three teen girls and so when I see thriving women I envision my own daughters living their lives like that

Katherine Hiegle. Of course she is! Explains her self-righteous and holier than thou attitude. The high school I went to had 20 or so Mormon kids. I was not impressed. They were the most hypocritical students at the school. And they treated everyone else like trash.

not me getting a mormon ad before this

I’m sorry that you went through all of this but you go girl! Be so proud of yourself. I’m so glad you got out of that cult! You’re such a beautiful, beautiful soul.❤

I’m not Mormon, and I suppose I COULD warn you about being irreverent, but I was that teacher, too. As a Human, I have to applaud your intellect, your natural sense of wonder, and your willingness to speak up. The intestinal fortitude that it takes to step “out of bounds” and speak against an institution such as a church is impressive. I would never even suggest that you stop, because I know that you must find your own way, and find your truth. So, keep thinking, keep growing, keep seeking. Could I count myself a true TEACHER if I didn’t encourage you think for yourself? I learn so much from your journey, and I look forward to your next video. 🍀🌻

Girl your story about Clair de lune made me cry 😢

I can’t believe you had that experience at a doctor’s office. That is so unprofessional. Can you share why you decided to move out of Utah? Was it too uncomfortable to be ex-mormon/not mormon there? Just curious.

I came out in Fast-n-Testimony at a BYU ward back in around 1992 or so. Shocked the world, and it scared the crap out of me, but I did it.

My first time in the temple I realized: This is wrong!! This is something so totally bad!! If I had been able to run out of there and escape right then I would have done so.

Good for you! God bless you and your family! Thank you for your courage!

sooo glad my family left the church when I was 13

It has been over 20 years since I left the church and even more since I attended the temple. I had completed forgotten about those handshakes! How ridiculous!!! What was I thinking? Mmmmm - that kool-aid was good (LOL). Also, blowing out your birthday candles was my favorite!

Immediately after finding your shorts I got pro Mormon content on my page.

That second handshake is the Vucan mnd pinch which Vulcans use for defence against a sudden unexpected physical attack.

I’d love to hear you speak about something! FYI I haven’t been to church in a couple years, on and off with getting temple recommend the last time before I stopped again. But I’m wondering what you think of what’s taught about anti-mo’s in the church? I went to Hill Cumorah as a child, and outside there were people protesting the Mormon church, with megaphones and posters yelling at us. I was terrified how much people hated us, and was always told in church it was because people didn’t give the Book of Mormon a chance and because other churches would talk bad about it during their sermons. And it was an absolute no-no to view or listen to any anti-mo literature. I was told it was bc it was all lies, now I’m thinking it was to keep members from questioning or leaving.

@macdonald2k

27 күн бұрын

Yep. It's always us vs them, when it should be about how truth can withstand scrutiny.

@jujuh.3491

26 күн бұрын

@@macdonald2k that’s exactly how it feels! I’m too uncomfortable to even bring the church history up to my parents, because I know it will be “don’t look at their false information, they are led by Lucifer to plant seeds of doubt” when I’m genuinely asking bc I’m stumped finding church sanctioned information about Joseph Smith’s wives and early history. I still live near Salt Lake so I’m considering visiting the church history center and seeing if they have old journals or records that aren’t online.

I had tears of laughter and utter sadness and a whisper of resentment.

Those "SPACERS" of which you refer are called : DILATORS

Thank you for what you do

Any extreme version of religion have potential to harm. Not just Mormon.

Well, as a person who left the religious fairh that I was born and raised into, in my case Roman Catholicism, i say that in America, it is imperative that we need to be highly critical of all religious faiths. You are doing great work by pointing out all of the craziness of Mormonism. Its more meseed up than I could have imagined.

@user-rv8yb2xj6z

3 ай бұрын

John Lennon song imagine utopia to me

I wish I was there when you shared your testimony in RS. I would have been there for you! I was only in “the church” for about 6 years. Looking back I can see how I as a convert was treated. Not so nice, but I had nothing to compare it with.

You're amazing 💕💕💕

I haven't officially left. But I felt relieved , light and free when I threw away my compilation Book of Mormon, D & C, and Pearl of Great something.

I am so happy for you!

You mention Mormons in Utah are into the "hustle culture". Does this include the 'Troubled Teenager Industry' (which seems like a 'hustle' to me)? If so, what is it about Mormonism that ties in with that?

@MM-jf1me

2 ай бұрын

Ooh, great question! I hope she talks about this subject at some point. I think that industry is mostly powered by parents viewing kids as their own personal possessions and not as people in their own right.

5:00 it's next to impossible to understand how seemingly mundane acts like getting inked, drinking coffee or wearing a bikini etc required earth-shattering changes in someone's life

The museum segment got me a little perplexed because as a six-year-old, I used to know a Mormon family (in Italy), and I distinctly remember asking my mother, "So why doesn't [husband] marry other wives if he can?", and her replying, "Because he only loves [wife], dear, why would he want to marry other women?" So as naive as my question was, polygamy was clearly one of the first things I knew about Mormonism, and definitely the one that stuck the most / sounded the strangest to child me. I don't even remember _how_ I knew it, but I did. ...Come to think of it, that's probably why they're scrubbing it off so thoroughly.

I'm thinking that Scientology borrowed from the BOM.

I will NEVER forget "I WANT to be a Missionary" in Primary. I'm not LDS, but my Mam was born LDS, so I would attend in my younger years, and occasionally later on. ❤

Congratulations!

Mormon board game of life and death is so funny. It really does look like a game of chutes and ladders

Music and movies: Maybe it has changed or works differently in the countries. In Hungary, at game night at friday, they can listen non-religious music (if it is not harsh and if it "helps them to thinkg religiously" or something like this), or sometimes in english class the group can watch disney movies. Not much, I know.

Some religions a acting as a cult. They don’t let you have a freedom oh thinking, talking, analyzing. I admire you and your strength to wake up people prisoner of their believes.

Welcome to freedom, honesty, truth, reality and happiness.

No music for 18-24 months... unimaginable for me. I've been a musician since a child and I can't even fathom this idea.

The Mormon boardgame of Life and Death has me just laughing. Especially as I remember trying to explain this to my friends and significant others back in the day.

Yes , so many disgusting things done in the name of religion thinking it makes it ok.

The Mormon board game! I love it! Sounds like I’ll have a lot of my friends where I’ll be at! 😊

15:26 I was told they are hidden away in the Salt Lake Temple! This is the first I've heard that they were lost. Huh. Strange how it changes as the need arises... 🤔

Wonderful to find your videos. So now, today, what are your beliefs in a spiritual/religious sense?

37:30 thats so ironic because I believe Don Bluth, the man behind that movie, was a full believing mormon. Also same situation with Wall-E! My dad didnt let me turn it on because global warming, and several times hes shut off movies or tv shows because there was a gay kiss or relationship

Smart girl. I just left Rock springs WY for an extended vacation after retirement and used to go to Salt Lake often. I can't tell you how many fights I've been in a scuffle or fight. I am Hispanic and a Roman Catholic. I saw just a handful of black people the entire year I was there in WY. Everyone carried a gun including me. Another thing, Mormon people do drink. I traveled all over Utah to small town saloons and have been introduced to sister wives plus heard the whole bullshit stories. I've been messed up on tequila shots many times with the righteous Mormons. Great trout fishing though in Utah and WY.

15:11 Those eyes!!!

God DAMN this shit is wild.

adding to the list of mormon musicians, the band low are mormons but they’re from minnesota and they’re not evil. one of my fav bands of all time and i think they capture religious depression from a secular lens very well

For the first video, for me, the switch flipped when I went to SLC for the first time for conference when I was 32 I think, maybe 33. It had started really building since 2008 when I was 27, after I'd been home from my mission for 3 years and prop 8 was happening in my home state California, I stopped going to church for weeks until after elections. But it was when I went to conference in 2013, except for one friend I wasn't really liking the people we went with, I had to sit by myself during Elder Oaks talk and I didn't agree with anything he said and thought it was petty and mean, and I looked around and everyone around me had smiling faces and laughing at his mean jokes, no one looked disturbed like how I felt. Went to the mall across the street from temple square for lunch and learned the church gave money for the mall to be built, where there are luxury stores where most Mormons I knew growing up would never be able to afford that stuff including myself, and it felt really weird. Funnily enough, I did a live session at the temple, and I actually wasn't weirded out by that, lol (I'm one of the weird ex-mos that never was completely weirded out by the temple and the ceremonies in it, but I had an inactive father that told me everything that went on inside with I was 8 or 9 so I knew what was going on before I went for my first time, lol). And then that evening we were listening to the Priesthood session by the reflection pool and we could hear what was going on with Ordain Women at the tabernacle and it really bugged me how they were being treated even though at the time I didn't agree with what they wanted. I just felt so alone and the people I was with didn't understand why I was upset. I called my cousins that lived in West Jordan and got on the train and stayed with them for the rest of the trip until I needed to meet up with the people I went with to go home. I was silent the whole ride home (12 hours I think) with headphones in my ears

@aeolia80

4 ай бұрын

I never sang that Mormon boy song at girls camp, lol, omg, wtf. We sang more inappropriate songs, lol, the only one that we sang that was slightly more spiritual was "No Man is an Island" that we sang every night at the fire before going to bed. I've been to Adam-ondi-ahman, lol, it was in my mission boundaries at the time

@aeolia80

4 ай бұрын

I was lucky that I somehow managed to avoid creepy priesthood leadership, actually, many of them walked on eggshells around me and I didn't find out till after I stopped going to church that it was because of my dad. When I was 8 my dad learned one of the men in the ward, who he thought was a friend, had been molesting some kids, and my dad brought it to the leadership, nothing was done, and my dad was ostracized for saying the "priesthood holder close to them had done some bad things" and he stopped going to church after that, actually, my dad has never talked about it again not even to me, I found out from a friend from my home ward that also stopped going (they're non-binary and had been sexually abused by her brother) that this man in our home ward had served jail time for molestation but it was after I was an adult, I remember my dad saying to me I was never allowed to go to their home when I was a kid, and I have a sneaky suspicion that I was "left alone" by leadership because my dad had dirt on them covering up a crime. I don't know why my dad never went to the cops, I just know he had very few friends after that and stopped trusting a lot of people.

Dallon Weekes has some VERY not "mormon-acceptable" topics in his lyrics, so I don't know if he's still practicing. Seen his band IDKHOW live twice.

Even the abusive lady Ruby Franke- a lot of what made her so controlling was enforcing doctrine- masturbation a sexual sin equal to murder, the expectation of the total compliance of kids 24/7 and the pressure to have LOTS of kids!

can’t wait for spirit prison and outer darkness✨

My brother somehow got really into The Killers during his mission.... probably because as you mentioned, Brandon Flowers is mormon, so his music wasn't as forbidden I guess?? Honestly not sure.

Remember the story of the elephant who was chained at a stake for his entire life. When the chains were freed from him, he continued to live by the stake unaware he had freedom. I think at some point after you have left the prison, it's time to leave it all behind and stop talking about it. I think for you currently talking about your experience and leaving the church is cathartic and healing. I think you can also honour your past, living an LDS life is demanding, you did it and it's part of who you are now. I have had difficult times within my faith boundaries. I attended a "liberal" seminary, gave a sermon on the theology of ordaining a gay minister and was booted out. They thought I was gay and couldn't fathom a straight person had something positive to say about a gay man. This was in the early 70's. There is no perfection anywhere. I know you know this. I personally see LDS much like the Catholic church, patriarchal heavy. Some of the women at the seminary I attended were nuns who had left the Catholic church so they could become ministers, priesthood in the Catholic church is still non-existent.

It does it to alot of kids everywhere in the mormon church. My best friend said he was gay and his parents sent him to a mental hospital and everytime he came back home they asked him if he still thought he was gay and he would say yes. They sent him back twice and the third time they were going to send him back he shot himself in the head. This is only one of the many stories I have about the kids i grew up with in the church. I myself have my own story

Wait. Even some secular people popularly believe life on this planet came from aliens elsewhere. So that "Sunday song" was just ahead of its time once again!😂

The ad before this video was for Mormon missionaries oh no

42:49 i was a strict jehovas witnesses and cut off all the music because they call it demonic! So I clearly know what you are talking about!

@Sleipnirseight

4 ай бұрын

I hope you got out!!! JW can often be even worse than the LDS church 😬

Pennsylvania has almost the exact same alcohol laws believe it or not!

To the obgyn tok toward the end, those are dialators and yes its a real thing. They can actually be very helpful for pelvic floor training for women with tight and painful openings

Yes! Thank you. LDS church destroyed my family and I am banned for life according to my sister in law from being around my neice or nephew because I am not LDS and said it is a cult.

Well. Compatibility is a thing. But "soul mates" are not. So your each get a point on that round!😊

feeling the spirit is a human experience, they just take credit for it.

First time hearing the heavens according to Mormonism. I’m so screwed!!! Divorced, no children, left the Mormon church, like to see half naked men, wow I’m soooo bad. They probably would never even let me go back to the church.

The wisdom of joseph smith came from his mental illness that got largely out of control!!

And I still want to know about the lizard thing

So I am curious, of music is so restricted, how is Brandon Flowers not excommunicated from the Mormon church for being in a band that does popular music? Instead he seems celebrated within the church, why could you not just buy his music? It seems to have tacit approval.

This is both hilarious and sad lol

That god like attitude towards Joseph Smith the church encourages. A very nice fully vested morman man cried when he told me how JS was dragged out of the jail and murdered. “That Godly man” he was so distraught. I am a history buff but was actively discouraged by church members to learn church history. And what about that lizard thing?

Wow

Never EVER stop criticising the church…I turned my back on it for full tilt nihilism at age 18, no regrets! I do wish I had been more out spoken about the harmful, lasting impact it has, rather than praising them as a benevolent organisation because the church welfare system didn’t let my family starve, go homeless or unclothed. I was endeared to this organisation even in adulthood atheism, blissfully ignorant of the true damage done by the church on my neurospicy, LGBTQIA2S+ mind until I had the time to truly think about it. I have hated myself down to my very core because of this church for 32 of my 36 years and I’m still trying to undo the damage.

I have never ever heard of a trans *teen* having surgery. They have to be at least 18 and have already had at least a year of intensive therapy and then live a year as their true gender while still having therapy. It’s not a quick process.

@Sleipnirseight

4 ай бұрын

THIS. People who have strong transphobia disguised as "we have to save the kidssss" have ZERO education on the topic.

Praise God🙌🙌❤️❤️ I was raised Roman Catholic so u understand the cult mentality of it all. God is REAL Gods word is TRUE but so many religions have twisted Gods word and adding their own deceptions. Gods word is filled with warnings to his followers to never put our trust in men but to judge AlL mens teaching by comparing it to Gods word. Trust in God.

"We are the biggest flirts"? Wait so Mormonism doesn't look down on flirting?