Ted Lindsey once got into a fight during an NHL All Star game. Most players don't even check during all star games!

@dustylover100

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised. Lindsay was like that every game.

@richardsweeney3204

2 жыл бұрын

All star games back in those days featured the Stanley Cup Champions against the league all stars.

@dnx112

Жыл бұрын

Teddy was unreal. Teddy teddy teddy

@massivecumshot

Жыл бұрын

Ted was REALLY hated by the OWNERS more than anyone. He was instrumental in starting the NHLPA.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Lindsay tried to organize a player’s trade union in 1957 and was promptly traded himself for it. Back when NHL superstars worked secondary jobs to make ends meet!!

I don't care what anyone says, Domi wiping out Samuelsson was a massive public service.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Samuelsson had it coming. You reap what you sow.

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Inasmuch that Ulfie was deserving of that knockout punch. give the guy credit for hot whining to the League or going Lawsuit on him.

Scott Stevens with his dirty elbows-to-head tackles and head aiming tackles. He was part of ruining both Paul Karyia and Eric Lindros's careers.

@barageom

2 жыл бұрын

Stevens was a punk who only went after smaller players.

@WarioSaysSo

2 жыл бұрын

@@barageom Agree!

@markd8469

2 жыл бұрын

He pretty much ended Eric Lindross career

@WarioSaysSo

2 жыл бұрын

@@markd8469 Agree!

@96Eman21

11 күн бұрын

#NewJerseyDevils of 1995, 2000 does NOT deserve to be engraved on #TheStanleyCup

How could Matt Cooke not be on this list?!?!

@rickschaefer7415

Жыл бұрын

No Todd Bertuzzi either

@zadokmotorfreight2423

Жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely!!!!

@garyb7262

Жыл бұрын

AAgreeeeeeeed

@newsnowbc1934

Жыл бұрын

Cookie was never that bad.

@garyb7262

Жыл бұрын

@@newsnowbc1934 lol you're out of your mind or just trolling You tube the Matt Cooke compilation video Cleay number 1

"Domi received an 8 game suspension from the league and fine. As well as a handshake from every player in the league"

@richardmiddleton4634

Жыл бұрын

I heard 5 GMs called up and offered to pay his fine for that punch. It was a glorious punch too. Samuelsson was a first ballot hall of fame piece of shit who specialized in cheap shotting, so it's only fitting that Domi did him dirty like that.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

@@richardmiddleton4634 Damn straight to that one. Lol

@jasonbeck6104

Жыл бұрын

Pat Verbeek? Dino ciceriely

@incumbentvinyl9291

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonbeck6104 ''Dino ciceriely'' Hahahaha! That's priceless!

@bobmurray6697

Жыл бұрын

@@richardmiddleton4634 Domi was quite the cheap shot artist himself though

Pronger missing the cheap shot on izermam and then hurting himself was sweet justice

@SombraPiloto

2 жыл бұрын

"izermam"?

@HughHarding46

2 жыл бұрын

That's Yzerman

@incumbentvinyl9291

Жыл бұрын

''izermam'' Haha! I can not believe it! Classic!

1. Bobby Clarke - " he would throw his mother down two flights of stairs to win a hockey game" 2. Dave Schultz - The all time bully who turtled when pounded by Larry Robinson in 1974 . 3. The Rat - Ken Linseman - enjoys fine dining. Runner up - Billy Smith with the Big Chop.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

In retrospect Clarke is more than worthy of being on a top ten hated list. For his attack on Kharlamov and for the way he treated Roger Nielson.

@JohnDoe-ze8wy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Feel free to include the entire Broad Street Bullies roster. What did Bobby Orr say at the Heritage Classic ? Something akin to " ... this is the first game he hasn't seen Clarke spear someone." ??

@crbrearley

2 жыл бұрын

​the Kharlamov hack just seems really awful to me; I don't know how people felt about it at the time. Maybe winning meant more. It just seems disgusting in hindsight.

@JohnDoe-ze8wy

2 жыл бұрын

@@crbrearley agreed - Here they are up to the same Flyers tricks vs Red Army in 76

@tulagi1

Жыл бұрын

@@crbrearley Lets not forget Boris Mikhailov intentionally kicking and cutting Gary Bergman's leg with his skate in that series. There was plenty of chippy play from both sides in that series.

Schultz only fought guys that he could beat. Then he got shitkicked by Larry Robinson.. and I loved it...

Hextall jumped Chelios because of the Brian Propp incident.

@nasirrizvi550

2 жыл бұрын

and he jumped Rob Brown because....

@philvacanti1446

Жыл бұрын

@@nasirrizvi550 I believe it was for his goal celebration

@macrie123

Жыл бұрын

Sorry bro, didn’t see that you posted the same before I did. The Propp hit was indeed the reason. But these style videos won’t share that tidbit.

@richardmiddleton4634

Жыл бұрын

Chelios was a detestable scumbag. His style was to pull every dirty trick in the book like butt-ending guys in the corners and then turtling whenever he got called for it. I once heard an interview with the guy who ran the penalty poxes at the old Winnipeg arena back in the 90s. The interviewer asked him "who's the nicest guy in the NHL?" His response: "Gino Odjick", then the interview asked "Who's the worst?" No hesitation "Chris Chelios".

Dale Hunter, Scott Stevens, and Tom Wilson. This list is incomplete and disappointing without mentioning these guys.

@dustylover100

2 жыл бұрын

I guess we'd be having to pick more than 10. Another tough guy nobody has mentioned, Orland Kurtenbach.

@citizenghosttown

2 жыл бұрын

Dale Hunter absolutely.

@MrNWA4Life

2 жыл бұрын

What did Scott Stevens do?

@citizenghosttown

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrNWA4Life He's probably referring to the vicious hit by Stevens on Paul Kariya in the 2003 Playoffs.

@66mmpow

Жыл бұрын

@@MrNWA4Life Stevens was a devastating checker,but clean.

Can’t be a top list without the original Rat….. KEN LINESMAN

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

So many to choose from , Bill Ezinicki, Billy Coutu, Maurice Richard several lists could be made.

@glenfenderman

2 жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Ummm, where does Maurice Richard fit into this category?

@adam6057

2 жыл бұрын

His sister was my high school principal. She had a few stories

@JohnDoe-ze8wy

2 жыл бұрын

Tenderloin Linesman

@Jay9999

2 жыл бұрын

As a Flames fan I remember that little bastard. Linesman was a level 10 pest. Miss those old Flames Oilers rivalries of the 80's they both had great players and great teams

The hate I had for Schultz wasn't half as intense as the hate I had for his teammate Bobby....

@kenschermerhorn7337

Жыл бұрын

Schultz condemned Clark later in life for starting problems that others had to take care of

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

J Bob Kelley? Who was once described as an incarnation of Count Dracula.

@user-nv5iq3bp8l

12 күн бұрын

The Broad Street Bullies were a sick joke....like a pack of hyenas. A total bunch of slugs.Clarke was a sniveling coward who was never accountable for his actions because he was surrounded by lead footed cement headed thugs.Shero was absolutely the most overrated coach ever in the history of the league.

Avery is and was a clown. Its shocking that he was paid to play for 12 years.

@rainfallenonmyshoes8471

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of ex-prez Chump. A real a hole

@MetalDetroit

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainfallenonmyshoes8471 You idiots hated Trump so much that you’ve left us without a President

@HughHarding46

2 жыл бұрын

Until I saw this video, I did not realize how big of an AssHat Avery actually was. He was not really that great a hockey player, nothing more than a role player, someone a team could rent for a playoff run and then drop at the end of a season.

Missed Todd Bertuzzi and Matt Cooke

@tamonicus

2 жыл бұрын

When I'm having a bad day, I YT "Matt Cooke gets destroyed." Always cheers me up.

@MetalDetroit

2 жыл бұрын

Bertuzzi wasn’t known as a dirty player

@markd8469

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetalDetroit ask Steve Moore

@MetalDetroit

2 жыл бұрын

@@markd8469 Steve Moore was a dirty player. One incident by Bertuzzi doesn’t make him a dirty player.

@Chiller01

Жыл бұрын

@@MetalDetroit The severity of that single attack from behind that fractured 3 of Steve Moore’s vertebrae puts Tod Bertuzzi squarely on that list.

I guess you don't remember what Larry Robinson did to Schultz on a Saturday afternoon game, i believe it was in1976, he brought him down to earth, Schultz was never the same after that beating.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Never got to see that one, but I would have loved too. I know about it. Nobody with any sense ever bothered Larry Robinson. He commanded respect and got it.

@jamesanthony5681

Жыл бұрын

It was a Sunday afternoon game, Feb. 17/74. Schultz sucker punched John Van Boxmeer, knocking him out and to the ice. Robinson avenged that by giving Schultz a thrashing.

@lukeheaton5336

Жыл бұрын

In the ‘75 playoffs Clark Gillies wrecked Shultz in a fight. That night, “The Hammer” was “The Nail”

You could have added the first Great star of the Habs, Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde, a man who was hated as much by his team mates as he was opposing players... He was always willing to fight anyone, on any team, including his own. Once, while coaching (Which was his after hockey career), he had so alienated his team that they began to mouth off to him in the dressing room, he warned the players that he wasn't going to allow that sort of thing and when one of the players "Got in his face" (As we would say today), the aging Lalonde took the young man down with one mighty punch, turned to his players and asked "Anyone else?" Needless to say, that ended that!

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Great story. I should write about him. Thanks for sharing.

@shoknifeman2mikado135

Жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Newsy, while the greatest scorer of the early NHA/NHL era, was also said to be one of the meanest players ever to wear a pair of skates.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

If ever there was a Habs player to hate on that was Pierre Larouche

@humankirk9196

Жыл бұрын

@@garyblanchard1084 My vote would go to Claude Lemieux or Chris Nilan. Pierre Larouche wouldn't even crack the top 10 list. Ask Nordiques / Bruins fans.

@jean-louislalonde6070

Жыл бұрын

I had no idea, and yes this is my name!

I think cowardly is a good word to describe some of these players.

The thing about Shore that is the most interesting is his stories as Owner-GM-Coach of the Springfield Indians. Later he bought a figure skating team, and "tortured ice dancers" according to Don Cherry

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

LOL, Shore was one of a kind.

@gocartes9615

Жыл бұрын

It is also said that, 1948, when he was gm for the Omaha team and the coach was Joe Mcgrath, he sent him a guy who was a terrible masturbator. Couldn't control himself. He would get deliberate penalties so he could get into the penalty box all by himself, and damned if he wouldn't, you know...

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Eagles on compared the Shore owned Indians to a concentration camp

@nickhughes8179

Жыл бұрын

THOSE ICE DANCERS ARE COWERING BEHIND THEIR VISORS. SHORE'S JUST TRYING TO TOUGHEN EM UP!! THEY MUST BE SWEDISH OR FRENCH!! THEY'RE NOT GOOD CANADIAN KIDS!!! ROCK EM SOCK EM HOCKEY IN FIGURE SKATING YOU PEOPLE!!! GOOD CANADIAN KIDS!!!! Don Cherry, drunk off his ass as usual.

Rafi Torres?? Bertuzzi??

Chris Simon ? 15 years in NHL, 8 suspensions totaling 65 games.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

He is very worthy.

@cahg3871

Жыл бұрын

Chris Simon was a tough and mean SOB,but could score as well.He was averaging 20 goals a year while playing 10 minutes a night.When he talked,it sounded like his voice was coming from a cavern he was so big bodied.I seen him on “Inside Hockey” with Geno Redda and when he played for the Avs,he couldn’t of been anymore accommodating to the film crew,lol.Goes to show that some may be beasts on the ice yet nice guys off the ice.

@dalebrooks304

Жыл бұрын

No, not at all. He was as tough as nails and generally played fairly clean. Dirty players? How about Claude lemieux? How about Bobby clarke? How about Ken linsman? How about Dale Hunter? How about esa tekenen? I'm talking about players who stick and run.

@zadokmotorfreight2423

Жыл бұрын

@@dalebrooks304 Claude Lemieux 100%!!!

@humankirk9196

Жыл бұрын

Dale Hunter outgoons anyone mentioned. He is #2 on the all time PIM list behind Tiger Williams, but #1 all time for *playoff* PIM when everyone else is supposed to be well behaved. Exhibit A: his completely unjustified attack on Pierre Turgeon in 1993.

Yeah, Bryan Marchment was a real piece of work. He started out doing some pretty spectacular open ice hits that resulted in fights but you couldn't call them dirty. But then he started doing that knee-on-knee shit and I dismissed him as a human being.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Marchment was vicious. Always making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

I really enjoyed seeing the "Original Rat" referenced. I thought of him immediately the first time I saw Marchand play. I'm sure Kenny thanked God every day for Paul Holmgren.

You missed Bobby Clarke, the biggest cheap shot coward that ever played in the league.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, Clarke should make the top three on any list. If I do a part two he will definitely be their. How can Canada take pride in winning the 72 summit series when he had to purposely injure the best player on the ice to win.

@Diogenes-ty9yy

Жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 110% agree, Valeri Kharlamov may not be a name familiar to many now, but he was absolutely brilliant on the old Soviet teams back in the day and what Clarke did, breaking his ankle, should have been a capital offense.

I worked in East Hampton Long island for a while, and it was reported that Mr Avery threw a rock at a passing car for no reason at all? The world doesnt need this guy

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Avery is a complete waste of skin.

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 slimeball

It's good that you at least mentioned Battlin' Billy Smith in passing; until Hextall came along, he was the most hated goalie in the game.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you. Billy was a great net minder but he didn’t hesitate to hack and wack. I remember he used to wear a rabbit foot chain around his neck for good luck. During the 1982 Final against the Canucks Tiger Williams ripped it off and threw it in the stands. I think I should make a part two to this list as their are so many players that have earned it.I don’t think some were dirty but reacted violently to the way they were treated on the ice and lashed out in frustration and rage, Maurice Richard comes to mind. You have to be tough to play pro hockey. There’s an awful lot of players that have have done dirty things on the ice to gain a competitive edge. Gordie Howe, Ted Lindsay, Eddie Shack, Bobby Clarke.

@loilt5091

2 жыл бұрын

During the Oilers Dynasty of the '80's, we saw both Billy Smith & Ron Hextall, both in a pair of back-to-back Stanley Cup finals against Edmonton. Having a season ticket, I was at the game when Edmonton dethroned the Islanders, on May 19, 1984. Glenn "Kamikaze" Anderson charging the net with no regard for himself or the goalie, was not for the faint of heart. This was before the magnetic moorings, of the early '90's. Plenty of turbulence at the Woodchoppers Ball‼️

@kurtwpg

2 жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Bobby Clarke would top a "Should have been more hated" list.

@joesavary6081

2 жыл бұрын

How is Matt Cooke not on this list? Samuelsson should have been retired by the league after the Neely incident

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Until that Luongo fella came along

Before even watching, I knew Sean Avery would be at the top of the list. Surprised Matthew Baranaby wasn’t on there, though.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

Hextall did that to chelios because of what chelios did to Brian propp in game. 1

@williamwalter4882

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, Chelios had it coming.

Todd Bertuzzi as an honorable mention.

Dale Hunter easily should've rated on the top ten for the hit on Pierre Turgeon during the '93 playoffs.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Yes he is more than deserving. He is also Hall of Fame worthy just on his coaching record, but because of his nasty reputation he will probably never be admitted.

@joemac4880

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@guyrose6602

Жыл бұрын

For that hit and the whole of this chicken sh**''s career.

@kftc1980

Жыл бұрын

I would put people who are consistently over the line and do so intentionally (Pronger) over players who are infamous for a particular incident, but don’t stand out otherwise.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

And Don Cherry backed Hunter up one hundred percent for it

Avery, C. Lemmieux and Marchand should be on the list in all ways.

This is very well done. Your information is good.

@tedtalkshockey1966

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Howe, Shack, Clarke, Linseman, Bob Kelly, Gary Suter, Billy Smith, Hextall, McSorley, Marchant

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Good list. So many to choose from.

@Calers-gu1ib

2 жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 you can easily get bias towards a player because he did something to your favorite team and forget that other players are hated by almost everyone. I think the list I put together are players who were despised throughout the league. People can say John Ferguson but he was only really hated in Toronto whereas people all over the league wanted to get Shack

@Bruins-vq5ey

2 жыл бұрын

Howe?

@johnfeeley5716

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bruins-vq5ey yeah, Mr Elbows

@Bruins-vq5ey

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfeeley5716 feared ? Respected? Yes . Hated? Nah

The reason Hextall attacked Chelios was for Chelios elbowing Brian Propp in the head & sending him to the hospital & ending his season. Yes Hextall was dirty at times but there was usually a reason when he went bananas. Also Hextaĺl learned his "stick craft" from Billy Smith who always kept his crease clear.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

This is true.

@humankirk9196

Жыл бұрын

And I wouldn’t say Hextall was hated. He was intense but not hated

@incumbentvinyl9291

Жыл бұрын

@@humankirk9196 I'd say he was hated. He was known to attempt to injure players. That was common in the day, but not as much for goalies. Also, Hextall had his entire fighting roster to protect him, not that he really needed it, but no team would take any liberties on him. He could do what he wanted to almost any player on the other team. I can not stress enough what kind of a two handed chop a goalie needed to do back in the day to get anything more than a two minute minor.

@paulbartels6585

Жыл бұрын

@@incumbentvinyl9291 That was the era then I remember Glen Hanlon with a single handed swing of the stick to get the guy skating around the net lol

@incumbentvinyl9291

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbartels6585 Fair play, haha!

I don't think Tiger Williams or Tie Domi should get mentioned. They never picked on players who were not fighters, they were not that big so only fought guys who were bigger and were tough themselves and I don't think they ever tried to intentionally injure. Matt Cooke should get mentioned and Matthew Barnaby

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Matt Cooke was a nasty dirty player.

@billjones3497

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, look at Domis elbow on Scott niedermayer in the playoffs. One of the cheapest shots I’ve ever seen.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@billjones3497 Yeah I agree, he cheap shotted Niedermayer because he had to attacked a star player beyond his skill level.

@jim7297

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit on Tiger Williams. He ran Stan Mikita in to the boards from behind when Stan was old, hurt Stan's back to the point where he had to retire. Fuck Tiger!

@dustylover100

2 жыл бұрын

@@jim7297 , there is another one. Before Mikita's moment when he concluded that he could not win games in the penalty box, he was quite the instigator.

Nice, new sub

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment.

Dave Shultz had his career ended by Clark Giles of the Islanders, when Giles cleaned his clock in a classic hockey fight. He tried to fight Giles a second time, and got beat up even worse than the first fight. Those fights ended his effectiveness as an enforcer for the Flyers and the Islanders would go on to win a string of Stanley cups.

Where’s Tom Wilson???

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

In the penalty box.

@monroemullinix5974

2 жыл бұрын

I guess he's not really as hated as you think. Basically only three teams' fans hate Wilson. I'm guessing you're...... Shitsburgh?

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

30 more guesses left.

@monroemullinix5974

2 жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 I guess the Rangers would be the next logical choice. But seriously, Wilson is behaving himself pretty well this year, and has almost as many points as PIMs.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@monroemullinix5974 29 guesses left and yes I agree with you about Wilson, but the season is young.

While I agree w/ Avery being no.1, I'm surprised that you didn't have either Matthew Barnaby or Rob Ray on this list. Or Dale Hunter for that matter

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

You can find some of them on the part two list here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

Um...... Bobby Clarke, tiger Williams, kasperitas, Tom Wilson, Darcy tucker, Steve durbano, tie Domi, Bob probert, Matt barnerby, dale Hunter, so many more

Most of these guys were hated by the opposition but loved by their teammates.Avery was hated by both 😂

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Good one. 😎

Esa Tikkanen started more fights by other players than anyone in league history. He was by far the most hated by other teams. I remember multiple times when other players would chase him around the ice because of his treatment of their stars.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

No argument there.

@mikepeacock4725

Жыл бұрын

He was always my favourite Oiler. Hell my favourite Finnish player to be honest, and he was integral to the Rangers winning in 94

@bobmurray6697

Жыл бұрын

Loved Esa when he was on my team anyway 😂

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

honorable mention/ Tomas Sandstrom

There was a VERY good reason for Hextall to jump Chelios. Reason being, the charging style elbow to the side of Brian Propp’s head. An elbow so cheap, that a bolt from Propp’s helmet went through his skull and touched his brain. Hexy didn’t even get his money’s worth.

@rulinghabs

Жыл бұрын

I was at that game in Montreal when Propp went down. Dirty play but that was the style in those days.

@paulbartels6585

Жыл бұрын

@@rulinghabs I remember Ranger/Flyers games with the penalty box packed lol

McSorley: Good skill guy, but the most dirty one I have ever seen and this includes Shultz, Randy Holt, and McSorley couldn'n take Brashear in a fight, and that's why he dirtied Brashear

@tedtalkshockey1966

10 ай бұрын

His ego was bruised when Brashear washed his hands of him for a rematch.

That was my secret weapon. The ability to skate faster backwards then most players skated forward.

No Steve Ott or Matthew Barnaby?

This is a good list, except Bobby Clarke should be there instead of Dave Schultz. Dave Schultz was more feared than hated. EVERYONE outside Philadelphia HATED Bobby Clarke's guts! In your honorable list, you could include Mathew Barnaby (most hated player in the late 90s), Steve Ott, Chris Chelios.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree about Clarke. Their is an awful lot of players that could make a top ten list but I can only pick ten.

@bobhayett2376

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. Clarke was notorious for shoving his stick into opponents...and then one of the goons would fight for Clarke.

@stephenp.6395

2 жыл бұрын

Robinson certainly didn't fear Shultz ... it was vice versa.

@blackenedmagic888

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Clarke could have easily made the list - he was among the dirtiest players of his era. The only reason one had to fear Schultz was he would jump someone in a split-second if their back was turned.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Still the 1974 Bruins lost fair and square to the Flyers. Clarke included diabetic and all. NEVER spit on a team for winning.

Reminds me of the old joke, "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out."

The thing about Samuelson was he never fought anybody either, he always started the roughing but never dropped the gloves......

"leaping" lou fontinato was another one that went under your radar. like samualson he got his come uppance from gordie howe. when fontinato went after howe, mr. hockey put his nose "under his ear" with one punch. a news guy got a picture of them taking lou off the ice, his face really looked funny.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Lou was asking for it.

@denisjl100

Жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 lou was doing what the rangers had hired him for and gordie showed him the error of his ways. the old six team league couldn't hold a candle to these new teams because of the way they work out but the tough guys would beat these guys to a pulp. they were tough

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

@@denisjl100 I agree. I covered Fontinato in Part Two kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

Nice video! Avery tops my list too. Tom Wilson would be a close second.

@sereneprincess4940

2 жыл бұрын

Tom WIlson belongs on there, just on principle. So does Chara, but that’s my own gripe. I’ve got a few players that I would have added to this list, but it would have extended the list from a “top 10” to a “top 20”, very easily.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

@@sereneprincess4940 part two as requested kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

I called three of them: Marchand, Lemieux and Avery. I can’t believe Avery ever got a job as a sportscaster and I’m not a Red Wings fan, but I still enjoy watching that 1997 season finale game where Lemieux got his ass handed to him by McCarty and all the fights that followed in their OT win against Colorado. Others you can have are Nolan, Roenick, and Bertuzzi.

Really good video, alot of characters in the NHL. I would say the most hated player this season so far would be Evander Kane.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Can't argue, he's in a lot of trouble on and off the ice.

How in the hell did Dale Hunter not make this list? Brad "the aardvark" Marchand must have taken lessons from Hunter on how to be a dirty ass player!

@cahg3871

Жыл бұрын

Brad Marchand was on a ferry boat to Newfoundland before the start of this past season when he met my nieces neighbours.They told them about my nieces daughter who was a huge Bruins fan and whose birthday was coming up.He called her and wished her the best birthday ever.On the ice he may be a prick,but off the ice he seems like a great guy to me.

I played for 20 years, great sport, when I wasn't on the ice we'd play street hockey, in my day we didn't wear masks or shields, I think it's kinda funny when they fight wearing face shields. It's one of the most exciting games to play, constant action while your on the ice. Cheap shots are just part of the game, but some are a little too cheap.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@97carded

2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember you John. There was a goalie on SJ Sharks named Steve Shields for a few years.

@adriankalitka3762

2 жыл бұрын

I've been playing on a beer league too 😂

@DrewRycerz

Жыл бұрын

NIce bro been playin for around the same time. Up for some shinny? lol

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

NHL should trash the instigator rule. What fan ever whined about a good fight? NHL should also pass a rule that if you drop the mitts, you toss the helmets.. or make a good effort to. Other wise a fine maybe a G note

You do a really nice job on these videos. You back up You stories with facts not BS.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

It takes a long time to make a video, even if I think I remember all the facts I still research to make sure I cover everything and that it’s all factual.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Part two kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

Another person that was widely disliked during his tenure in the league was Larry Zeidel played from 1951-1969. Had multiple suspension for violence with the stick and had one of the most notorious stick fights in nhl history.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

The stick duel with Eddie Shack March 1968?

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Larry Zeidal was a maniac, he could be in the top three spots on any Top Ten list.

McSorley wasn’t hated he made a big mistake that changed both his life and Brashear’s too but he wasn’t a dirty player or hated. Seemed liked by everyone. He was a role player

@SJKLR99

2 жыл бұрын

He protected Gretzky too

@198634

2 жыл бұрын

I met Marty 2 years ago - one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet ! Stayed and chatted w me for 30 mins

@billdalby4097

2 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about mcsorley was a dirty player

@SubPablum

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he made a huge rage mistake there. He was well liked and respected and now is mostly remembered for going psycho.

@dietpepsivanilla3095

Жыл бұрын

Oh he was hated all right. McSorley is forever hated by Maple Leaf fans for his cheap shot on Doug Gilmour. McSorley is hated in Calgary, Vancouver, Winnipeg and many other spots.

The ‘Little Ball of Hate’ is Pat Verbeek, not Brad Marchand….how does Esa Tikanen and Dino Cicarelli not included?

@adriankalitka3762

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about Dino. I know I hated him. I'm surprised that Darius Kasparaitis isn't on the list or even Crosby. Crosby is a real dirty player. Always hacking players behind the play and is always bitching about being touched. I never knew how bad it really was until I went to a game. He's so bad

@philvacanti1446

Жыл бұрын

No Dale hunter or Paul Gillis

@bobmurray6697

Жыл бұрын

The guy I hated most was Rick Vaive. The best ever at standing in front of the net but was padded up like a mummy

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

Verbeek was a tough s.o.b.and score 46 goals in his best season (I think it was 46)

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

Balls of hate scored 46 goals in his best season. I am in Vancouver, dear Lord, please help us find a couple like him

Ahole Pronger stole the puck after Patrick Kane’s goal to win Stanley Cup, what a class act.

@seveglider8406

Жыл бұрын

Pronger spent the entire 2010 finals hiding from Dustin Byfuglien!

No Bobby Clarke? The list is incomplete. SMH

@jaymoon5906

Жыл бұрын

Hit very body with his stick and never fought my favorite moment with boobie yes boobie was when he whacked Phil Esposito with his stick and Esposito turned around and whacked the sissy

@Diogenes-ty9yy

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I still, remember Clarke whacking Valeri Kharlamov's ankle, breaking it, in a Flyers vs. Soviet Union game many years past. Kharlamov was one hell of a talented player, the pity was he was dropped from the Soviet Olympic team after the 1980 "Miracle." He's gone but not forgotten.

Matt Cooke has to be on this list.

A few names I see missing from the top ten... Sidney Crosby, Scott Stevens, Mathew Barnaby, Matt Cooke.

It was a beautiful thing when Lemieux paid for his cheap shot on Draper, courtesy of Darren McCarty.

For you old timers, how about John Ferguson. Montreal's enforcer in the 60s.

@dustylover100

2 жыл бұрын

Good one. After Maurice Richard retired, for several seasons, the Canadiens forwards were pushed around quite a bit. When Ferguson came along, things changed. And the results came immediately. The Habs won the Stanley Cup four out of five seasons in the mid-and-late 1960s. Only Toronto's 1967 Cup win interrupted the streak.

@QBRX

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustylover100 Yup, I was a super Canadiens fan at the time...good memories. BTW I'm still young, only 69.

@rickszabo4312

2 жыл бұрын

Ya and Bobby Baun of the Leafs

@QBRX

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickszabo4312 Eddie Shack also.

@roberteaston6413

2 жыл бұрын

Once in the playoffs Ferguson beat up Bobby Hull. After the game was over he was in the parking lot ready to drive away. A woman came up to him with a smile and thanked him for putting her husband in his place. He said to a teammate "Who was that".. The teammate said "That was Joanne Hull". Ferguson wondered what kind of a marriage they had when he beats up a hockey player and his wife thanked him for it.

If I were a GM, I'd hire the guys who everyone hated and who'd kill their mama to win a game.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

The Hanson brothers would be a great start.

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

PLEASE buy the Vancouver Canucks. Richie Sutter TRADED, Big Gino TRADED. Brad May, TRADED, Luke Schenn, TRADED, Shane O'Brian TRADED, Kassian TRADED, Luca Sbisa TRADED, Jim Agnew, never got a sniff, Neither did Jim RevernbergRaffi Torres TRADED. I want Don cherry as coach. This city will never own the Stanley Cup. because we forget what country spawned the greatest player in history

This is a solid list. Although there could be some arguments around the edges, all mentioned were "worthy". Just one gray area IMHO. ''Hated' for dirty play and/or disgusting demeaner, or just because other teams hated playing a tough guy who might also outplay them (like Messier)? Expected to see Kaspar the Unfriendly Ghost in the honorable mentions.

tortelinni was involved in the gretskys betting against their teams

No Steve "Mental Case" Durbano? He averaged 5.1 PIM per game. Would have been even higher without all the suspensions.

@jimbo1959

2 жыл бұрын

I was in prison with "Bad Boy" after he got pinched for blow in his shoe,and caught an importing beef!

@sigep145

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbo1959 What was he like in prison? Did he mainly keep to himself or did he have a group of people he hung around with? Since he was known for being a fighter & lunatic as a player, I always wondered if he had a tougher time in prison or if the other inmates &/or guards treated him more like a novelty. Hope you don't mind the questions, since I've never run across anyone who might be able to answer I had to ask.

@jimbo1959

2 жыл бұрын

@@sigep145 He had an attitude,but nothing major.He had a "clique" he hung with( as most do in prison),but was pretty much low profile( not loud or obnoxious).If you're loud and obnoxious in prison,you'll get that nipped in the bud very quickly.He was treated just like any other inmate,by the screws,and the inmates.The fact is that not many of them had ever heard of Durbano! Hope this covered a bit of what you were curious about Dick.

@jamesanthony5681

Жыл бұрын

He was without question the dirtiest player I've seen, even going back to his junior days with the Toronto Marlies. He was never afraid to use the stick to spear, hack or cut your face; or run you from behind and injure you.. He had psychological problems that likely stemmed from an incident when he was 12 years old, according to one of his aunts.

@sigep145

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesanthony5681 There was a story from one of his Birmingham teammates. Before a game against the Whalers, Durbano was sharpening the blade of his stick. The teammate asked what he was doing & he said that he was going "after the old man." The team had to beg him not to cut Gordie Howe because they were sure the whole team would be murdered before they could get out of town. To quote Rick James, "Cocaine is a helluva drug." His brother mentioned an incident when they were little that probably didn't help. I imagine it's the same one his aunt referenced. Plus his dad was a hot head. He was arrested after a junior game for waiting to run over refs with his car after a game. The guy definitely had some demons.

And NOT 1 RANGER CAME TO ROLFE'S AID...

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

I know, pretty disgraceful.

Dale Hunter , Scott Stevens and Ken Linsemen have to be there

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Those guys are a so bad they are in a league of their own, especially Hunter.

Imagine being the greatest player in the game, but you have to give credit to guys like McSorley and Messier.

How about Daniel carcillo and especially Matt Cooke for what he did to Marc savard alone

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Can't disagree. I think I should make a part two.

@paulbartels6585

Жыл бұрын

Carcillogin lol

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Cooke is on part two kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnxmmK2sdKaTpaw.html

tired of unions shielding their people from real consiquences, if you injure a player that is determined to be on purpose or extreamley dangerous play then you miss as many games as them.

@rodneyreinhardt1312

2 жыл бұрын

Make them sit as long as the player they injured. If the player is out of the league then you are out too. todd bertuzzi comes to mind.

Cory Perry. Total cheap shot artist. Will often spear a player in the nuts, and what makes me mad is NOBODY EVER makes him PAY. Thank you Gil Stein for that instigator rule. It really changed the game. Cory is also one stud of a player

@tedtalkshockey1966

10 ай бұрын

Excellent comments I agree fully.

Old Marty McDiapers and don't forget Kenny "the rat" Lindsman.

Players today are so SOFT. "Don't talk trash, it's not nice... don't check me, it hurts...hey ref, he shoved me." Excuses excuses, excuses...if they're not tough enough to be a competitor, they have no place in the NHL. Hockey is not a sport for wimps.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Hockey remains a man’s game

Number 1# thru 10... Brad Marchand... he's just got that kinda face you just can't help want to punch

@rocosuavez

2 жыл бұрын

yep i know i hate him too cause he doesn't play for my team and The Canadiens suck big time this year ...

@mikegike7273

2 жыл бұрын

But damn.....He can score...

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who wants to punch someone that bad best expect a punch back with equal or greater force

Future nhl goalie Michel Plasse was credited with a goal while playing in the minors. That was before Billy Smith’s goal

@antonchigurh7227

Жыл бұрын

good catch i remember that trivia from over 40 years ago but forgot it ~ plasse also played on my Habs for a short time

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

And Plasse was just trying to clear out the puck

Raffi Torres is conspicuous in his absence.

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

Best body banger in the league, and of course susp for the Bruins series

Your list is spot on in my opinion, but if you could add a plus one it would have to be Darcy Tucker who played mostly with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You for your comment. I agree.

@kimhammarborg7552

2 жыл бұрын

The list could be endless really. But Barnaby would be a solid choice for the list too.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

@@kimhammarborg7552 I think I should make a part two.

@nickhughes8179

Жыл бұрын

Even Leaf’s fans nicknamed him Darcy Fucker

For me Dave Schultz's most memorable fight was the one in Montreal when he pissed himself just before Larry Robinson dropped him.

@frankmacy1879

Жыл бұрын

Schultz's most memorable fight, without question, was during a nationally televised Sunday afternoon game vs. Montreal. He KO'd the Canadiens John van Boxmeer with a single punch, van Boxmeer lay unconscious on the ice for several minutes before being carted off.

To bad Avery couldn't play as good as he talked, now it just makes him an AH

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Agree. He invents way’s of getting into trouble.

I still despise Claude Lemieux. And the "little ball of hate" is Pat Verbeck. And your top most hated players is the correct one. There is no excuse for Sean Avery's style (if you can call it that) of play. He was a coward, a bully, a pest, and a rude human being-to put it nicely.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Excellent assessment, I strongly agree on all counts. Especially Avery.

@LtRee96se

Жыл бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 I don't know of any true hockey fan that likes Avery. I am only ashamed that my Detroit Red Wings let him into the NHL.

Surprised Washington Tom Wilson didn't make the cut. Not even in the honorable, or maybe, dishonorable mentions.

@jonfox7812

2 жыл бұрын

Wilson is the Poster Boy for nastiest in today's game ! WORD !!!!

Chicago Blackhawks Chris Chelios

@johnfeeley5716

2 жыл бұрын

any version of Chris Chelios

@mariovaccarella6854

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfeeley5716 I couldn't believe that he didn't make The List.

@johnfeeley5716

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariovaccarella6854 but i love all of these players because of what they did...and hated them with a passion when my team's turn came!

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Montreal more than any other team he played for

@mariovaccarella6854

Жыл бұрын

@@garyblanchard1084 I'll defer to you. I remember Him more as A Chicago Black Hawk, because Their One Of My Favorite Teams.

I would add Mark Messier.

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

I was at a gamein Edmonton, when the OIL torched the Nords like ELEVEN to three. Messier got into a fight, and turned the guy into a used punching bag. I am pretty sure that other guy was Dale Hunter. Love to have them both in Vancouver, but make messier 25 instead of 36. lol

I don’t know why any of the other players didn’t give Marchant a quick upper-cut when he licks them…CHOP! “Arrghblifmimblegahgahunph”🤣

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

That's my line lol

Where are the Hanson Brothers when you need them......Good list though.

@kkttss1928

Жыл бұрын

Man I loved the Hanson Brothers. They were awesome! 😆

@Diogenes-ty9yy

Жыл бұрын

@@kkttss1928 I own 3 hockey jerseys, 2 from a team that no longer (1980 Soviet Olympic Team, Kharlamov and Maltsev) and 1 from a team that really never existed (Charlestown Chiefs, # 17, Jack Hanson.) The strange thing here in Florida is that nobody seems to remember that CCCP stood for USSR in Cyrillic, nobody seems to remember that the old Soviet Union had, probably, the best hockey team ever, once upon a time but anyone who's seen Slap Shot knows the Hansons.

Wow you picked the one instance where Corey Perry was innocent as your first picture of him. That picture makes it look like he intentionally kneed Tavares in the face. When it was a legitimate incident. I hate Perry as much as the next guy, but that was the one time he was innocent

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

I picked that picture because it was recent. Yes he was innocent in that incident.

@roscoemichel2103

Жыл бұрын

Not innocent: he could have avoided him

@thegoughandbordenfamily8234

Жыл бұрын

@@roscoemichel2103 Tavares is a leaf and leafs fall in spring in toronto

No Matt Cooke ??? Really ???? Not even on the Honorable mention list ???

@tedtalkshockey1966

8 күн бұрын

You can find him on the part two Most hated Nhlers. Cooke is more hated than I first thought.

Shore immediately got his when Leaf tough guy Red Horner removed one glove and promptly knocked him out. I still remember when Schultz was taken apart by Clark Gillies and eventually Larry Robinson,two guys only stupid players bothered.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly, crazy to take on Gillies or the big bird.

As a Boston Bruins fan, I'm not sure Eddie Shore was hated. He was one of the early greats of the game. The Hanson Brothers loved his brand of "old time hockey". One guy we really hated was Matt Cooke. His intentional headshot basically ended Marc Savard's career. And we love Marchand... most of the time.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

Those same haters should hate on Gordie Howe to be consistent for similar reasons.

@humankirk9196

Жыл бұрын

@@garyblanchard1084 I think you mean Terrible Ted Lindsay. Their game was very similar. Rocket Richard famously never forgave Lindsay.

@garyblanchard1084

Жыл бұрын

@@humankirk9196 Richard probably never forgave Hal Laycoe before Laycoe passed on in 1998. Rocket joined him two years later.

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

Scotty are you a member of WIS?? Sim hockey

would Avery have done that to Billy Smith or Ron Extall ??? :)))))

@tedtalkshockey1966

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point. He would have paid a heavy price if he did.

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

Only once

I never liked Claude Lemieux especially when he played for the Habs and I'm a Habs fan. The best was when he took a dive trying to get a penalty and was laying on the ice. One of his teammates went over to see if he was OK and realized what was going on. He skated away leaving Lemieux on the ice. After a bit, Lemieux got up and skated to the Montreal bench pissed off because for as long as he lay on the ice, the trainer didn't bother to go out and check on him. Cried "wolf" too many times I guess. The Habs traded him.

DRAPER: Gus Adams suffered a similar injury when Craig Berube ran him face first into the boards. Gus was out for quite a while. I rank Samuelsson as even dirtier than Marty Mack

@user-mr3ct1dm9p

6 күн бұрын

Then, about a year later, Darren McCarty beat the snot out of Lemieux, in response to the Draper hit.

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

@@user-mr3ct1dm9p I remember watching that. I was NOT cheering for Claude

Great List... But you lose points for not having someone that would be in most top 5's...Matthew Barnaby. That grin. That annoying love he has for being a dick...that was 100% by choice. 1 more thing...Ron Hextall was really misunderstood and we shouldn't punish a man for his over the top passion...😏

@dalecsaunders

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Barney was irritating, but he stood in and fought anyone.

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

Barnaby was a twit, but I wish we'd have had him in Vancouver. he would drop the gloves.. although not overly tough

Chelios jumped into the air and elbowed Brian Propp against the glass in game 1 and knocked Propp unconscious and Hextall attacked Chelios in game 6 as retribution. Hextall did not play in game 1 because of an injury.

@justafanintexas7913

2 жыл бұрын

I can't help but notice that you leave out why Chelios went after Propp?

@jaymoon5906

Жыл бұрын

How can u defend hextall that’s like defending hitler

@glenw-xm5zf

10 ай бұрын

@@jaymoon5906 lol. Not really

You missed guys like Lou Fontinato and John Ferguson. They were as dirty as they come. Sean Avery was a flat out nutcase.

@tedtalkshockey1966

Жыл бұрын

Funny you mention this. I’m working on a part two list, Fontinato is on it. Agree about Avery.

@glenw-xm5zf

2 күн бұрын

@@tedtalkshockey1966 Ok Todd Ewen. not hated but scary tough.. So was Larry Playfair.Dirty? Mcsorley and Holt.

Rat Linesman, Ed Shack, Billy Smith, Barnaby

Brashear took a dive