How they thought regularly dropping to 15-20fps was acceptable I don't know.

@trblemayker5157

Жыл бұрын

Its fine for Soulsborne players. Have you seen the framerate of Bloodborne?

@jesser4221

Жыл бұрын

@@trblemayker5157 Bloodborne has frame pacing issues not frame rate issue. The game is lock at 30fps. So your point is?

@Jericco8

Жыл бұрын

@@trblemayker5157 Bloodborne's framerate is totally fine,the game has just weird frame pacing,just like Elden Ring on PS5,the game runs at 50-60fps but the weird frame pacing make's it look worse

@SicSemperBeats

Жыл бұрын

@@jesser4221 The 30fps lock is an issue in itself. Its a souls game, i cant think of a single other non shooter/driving game where motion and timing is any more important. No excuses to be made for one of their most popular games. Whether its frame pacing or the actual frame rate, its genuinely difficult to go from souls on my pc (or demons souls/elden ring on ps5) to bloodborne and play at the same level instantly.

@480pixels

Жыл бұрын

@@jesser4221 u guys r LYYIINNGGGG bloodborne has regular drops to 20 fps

Ported by Run Games and released 3 weeks ago. It took a month and a half for the original developers Cold Symmetry to update the PS5 enhanced edition to fix the fps. There is no mention on their socials of a patch or update and anyone that asks is met with silence. I reckon Run Games is one of those studios that ports games and moves on, not contracted to follow up with updates or patches (like the situation with Mass Effect Legendary Edition). Wouldn't surprise me if there was one small update with "Various performance fixes" that doesn't really do anything, and that's it. I'd love to be proven wrong though, this is merely conjecture.

@modermonkula

Жыл бұрын

Like how the GTA trilogy definition edition was handled

@jackbassindale4336

Жыл бұрын

I believe they released a patch on like day 2 or 3 that stabilised the framerate a little. Evidently not much but it at least made it playable

@benhillman8384

Жыл бұрын

Like Grip Digital - they spent about a year gaslighting their customers on reddit and discord over their pillars of eternity port before releasing a final patch that completely nuked the game with issues.

@plume...

Жыл бұрын

@@benhillman8384 Looking into it, they all have the same sort of websites too. "We provide support to studios..." and it seems when they port games that are poorly performing on release they just move on to the next project and provide a small patch. It seems the majority of the team are moved on and a couple of people are left to do a contractually obliged update. That is all they are paid for. GTA Definitive addition got so much flack for how shit it was, that Rockstar took it back from Grove Street to fix it. The same happened with the PC port of Horizon Zero Dawn who hired Virtuous to port the game and it was a mess so Guerilla took over. With the Mass Effect port Bioware did the same thing of hiring an external company to port the games (all they did was put textures through AI filters and change a few things in the coalesced.ini), and once that company was done they moved onto the next game. That is why you didn't see any updates for the framerate mess that game is. Bioware hired them to port the game, provide a day one patch and that is it! Sorry for the wall of text, but that is literally what is happening with these ports and it's sad :(

@Cogglesz

Жыл бұрын

@@modermonkula I'm rather late to the discussion here. As a young teen who grew up with the original 3d triology, Would you say it's worth picking up now? Seriously i wasn't sure if the fixes where going to help with it being derived from a mobile port and moved over to UE4. I had tried it at launch but due to the Stutter struggles and really weird enviroment placing (floating grass, bugged water etc) I had to refund that PC version. I don't mind the art style too bad. Just darn i'd like it to feel somewhat original or enhanced from it. I'd love to hear from someone who's played it recently who can compare it to launch, Those GTA Channels talking about this are kinda' bias in their reporting i feel.

It’s crazy that games get released having frame drops down into the teens.

@IzzyMann

Жыл бұрын

whats crazy about it? the hardware limitations or the limitations of the coders?

@alrightylol

Жыл бұрын

Srsly.. it happens over an over again and it looks "crazy" ? Its something usual for 2023.

@alext3811

Жыл бұрын

I mean this is by an indie developer, so they don't have the most resources or expertise. They did the best they could on the Switch.

@abdalla8558

Жыл бұрын

Witcher 3 was equally bad

@pennywisethedancingclown7139

Жыл бұрын

@IzzyMann The fact anyone even tried to do this on a switch and then charge money for it... It's literally a waste of time, money resources. It's nearly theft. The Switch is done. All these AAA games are simply cash grabs.

Taking people back to the N64 days with that framerate

@DrMcMoist

Жыл бұрын

I used to play the Conkers Bad Fur Day multiplayer with my mates. It used to go down to about 10fps when a lot was happening onscreen. Still great fun though, not to mention laugh out loud funny.

@cress_albane

Жыл бұрын

Or PS3/XB360

@Armataan

Жыл бұрын

@@DrMcMoist no game has ever performed so poorly while being so fun as the original starfox on SNES. 7fps while I’m telling my friends it is one of the best games I’ve ever played.

@DubElementMusic

Жыл бұрын

they should baöance the game again, playing this in ultra slow mo is much easyer 😅😇

@Chicky_Lumps

Жыл бұрын

The history of 3D games' framerate targets is definitely strange. Early on horribly inconsistent fps might have been seen as acceptable, but you also had many games targeting 60 fps on older systems. Then around 360/PS3 era it seems like AAA became synonymous with pushing the hardware until it barely kept 20 fps in some scenarios, although technically the games were "30 fps" at max. Around last gen is when the importance of *consistent* framerates was really acknowledged, but 30 fps became so standard that a lot of fast paced games, which may have targeted 60 fps two gens earlier, settled with 30. Last mid-gen was bizarre and misdirected because AAA corporations pushed the "4K" buzz really hard, when all but the slowest games would have benefitted far more from 60 fps. This generation is a relief, because it's finally being normalized to give console players options, and it seems like having a 60 fps preset is becoming a minimum standard. With fast paced games like shooters also venturing into 120 fps presets. For all the problems with AAA games themselves nowadays, performance control is in the best place it's ever been for consoles.

I really hope for decent backwards-comp on the next Switch akin to current-gen consoles. There are so many games now that could profit massively, especially the ones with an unlocked framerate and/or dynamic resolution.

@vanivan5202

Жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely, considering Nvidia hardware is going to be involved. And those guys don't really care about that.

@modermonkula

Жыл бұрын

DLSS 2.0 would work well on next fen Nintendo hardware

@vanivan5202

Жыл бұрын

@@modermonkula now look at the power consumption of DLSS and think again about it. DF have their own analysis regarding that on this channel.

@steveleadbeater8662

Жыл бұрын

Nintendo? Backwards Compatibility? How would they sell you all their old games again? I've not seen anything to suggest their anti-consumerism has changed. I mean, I'll get a 'cease and desist' for just typing 'Nintendo'.

@SolidPython2099

Жыл бұрын

@@steveleadbeater8662 are you dumb or something? Most of Nintendo consoles are backwards compatible with their previous iteration, you could play Game Boy and Game Boy Color on GBA, you could play Gamecube on Wii, you could play GBA on DS, you could play DS on 3DS, you could play Wii on Wii U etc

Man, poor Tom Morgan back at the Mortal Shell mines 😭

Ambitious or foolish? Like when I used to try to play modern games on my crappy laptop.

@K-Lowe

Жыл бұрын

I think with a few patches they can make it work

@abdalla8558

Жыл бұрын

yeah, now I'm using geforce now, much better experience. shame it is missing some popular titles

@Kareemisag

Жыл бұрын

I mean if its some what playable on my crappy laptop im happy

@Rodox2k10

Жыл бұрын

@@K-Lowe Are you a software engineer? Do you know what it takes to convert a CISC-port of a game to a RISC version, taking into consideration variable resolution, transform & lighting and implementing other 3d assets techniques while ALSO taking BATTERY LIFE into consideration because the switch is a so-called hybrid "console"? Have you ever worked with UE4 or even Unreal Engine AT ALL? No? So you know NOTHING, therefore you should think NOTHING of it.

@axhingREDragon

Жыл бұрын

Well yes, makes me reflect back to the days i tried to run Apex Legends on a 4g inted uhd laptop.

Mortal Shell is actually an Axiom for Tom's ritualistic suffering that revolves entirely in and around the game itself.

Literallly within 15 secs of the vid you know this game is unplayable

I've encountered a game breaking bug in the virtuous cycle mode: after paying for the dungeon with the fire boss and entering it, the game hard crashes. Did you also encounter this?

Tom actually went farther into the playthrough than most reviewers showing just up to 1st boss. I like that I mean if ur gonna review the details of the visuals and gameplay of the game u got to stress the later parts.

I hope the physical version will have any and all updates on card before it's released

Keeping good graphics at the expense of the framerate is always the worst thing, a developer can do. They should screw down the graphics further!

@yellowblanka6058

Жыл бұрын

Did you not watch the video? The game is noticeably pared back from the *base PS4* version. There’s only so much they can do without completely destroying the visual identity of the game. Sounds like they were running up against the inherent CPU/memory bandwidth limitations of the Switch.

Sometimes I have to wonder if it's even worth the developers making a port to the Switch when the cut backs are so big and the performance is so low. I can't imagine many gamers wanting to play that game in that state and it would be interesting to see how well the game performs on the Steam Deck being as it's a portable device.

@SweBeach2023

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Switch is still a great console and with plenty of life left in it. But not for as heavy games as this one. Just make a clean break and accept from now one Switch will no longer be able to run the latest and greatest games. It doesn't mean it can't run hundreds of other awesome games, just look at most Nintendo first-party games.

@marcelosoares7148

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the switch has a massive userbase and there's people that only have it as a gaming device so it's probably pretty lucrative even if the game looks like crap in terms of visuals

@jebusnazareth1869

Жыл бұрын

The switch has millions of users as a user base and the overwhelming majority of them don't even know Digital Foundry. This was a license to print money as Pokémon and other franchises that released substandard games on switch rarely feel the pinch of consumer dissent. They get what they deserve for buying into Nintendo's scam walled garden.

@modermonkula

Жыл бұрын

If i was an 8 year old kid i probably wouldn't care or notice about the low quality textures and frame rate. As a kid i play alot of command & conquer on N64 and that ran at 15 fps or less, didn't phase me i just thought that's how the game was.

@yancgc5098

Жыл бұрын

@@SweBeach2023 Even Nintendo first party games are starting to struggle on the Switch, so no, it doesn’t have plenty of life left in it. We need the Switch 2 this year.

Looking at the footage, cloth sim is disabled on switch, only simulated bones are working. IE: cloth pieces hanging on the player isnt moving, but small skinned parts of the skel mesh looks attached to simulated bones (physics bones), such as wiggly armor plates.

awesome job with the framerate, i got real xb360/ps3 ds1 vibes, very atmospheric and cinematic!

Such a shame that the frame rate is so shocking and also uncapped. Hopefully it can be improved as I’d love to play it on Switch but not in this state

Flashbacks to blighttown on 7th gen consoles xD

Im more curious if the developers are working on a mortal shell 2 maybe for dedicated current gen. Like i loved the game but did the game do well for a possible 2nd?

You said v-sync fixes tearing on Switch, but v-sync doesn't do anything under the refresh rate. Some v-syncs can do half- or quarter-framerate, but this game's not running at 15 or 30fps; it's 20fps. What am I missing?

People moaned that 8/20 for visuals and performance was harsh lol

@benm1889

Жыл бұрын

Switch up knows best! Thanks for all your hard work Mark & Glen! 💪🏼

All I can say is that I appreciate them making the game cartridge hold the game rather than it being a cloud only streamed game 🙏🏼

@chop46878

Жыл бұрын

to be fair tho once Witcher 3 was able to do a few years ago that it doesn’t surprise me as much

@borrellipatrick

Жыл бұрын

@@chop46878 Nintendo has Switch cards available that go up to 64GB. Just that most publishers don't want to use anything bigger than an 8GB or 16GB card and it's frustrating

@6reen6uy

Жыл бұрын

These guys are legit, just a small team

@ghost085

Жыл бұрын

@@borrellipatrick I guess they don't want the digital release of those same games to take too much storage space on users Switches.

@anasevi9456

Жыл бұрын

given what utter unplayable dogcr@p the game is, they should just never had made a port for the pathetic gutless wonder that is the switch in 2023... or since launch to be honest. The only visually nice 3d games that have any business on it are ones developed from the ground up for the wheezy old tegra maxwell.

The game testers were like: 15 fps, marvelous! More than we have ever expected 😍 gives that nice slow-motion laggy feel 🤩

@cybersosis

Жыл бұрын

lol what testers?

@SkewtLilbttm

Жыл бұрын

Ahh, it takes me back to the halcyon days, when pixels were nearly as big as the pockets on my Jnco Jeans

Great stuff DF. I really enjoyed Playing Mortal Shell on the PS4 and I was glad too see Port was coming too the Switch but it's looking borderline Unplayable with those Frame Rates. Hopefully a Patch will come out and make it more stable at a Fixed 30fps or when a Switch 2 Drops, it'll Run Mortal Shell at a higher stable fsp.

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

A patch won't fix this, the hardware is too weak to run the game. Only a powerful Switch 2 with backwards compatibility will fix this game.

@johnodaz1273

Жыл бұрын

@@WalkerIGP we will have too wait for a Switch 2 then, cuz Mortal Shell really is a good fun Game.

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 No need - I have eyes that can see and hands that can play games. Mortal Shell is also available on PC, PlayStation and Xbox, so there are plenty of other versions to compare the Switch port with. You would have to literally be blind not to see that Switch port is considerably worse than those other versions. The Switch hardware cannot handle the game, that is very obvious and it should never have been ported. This is not a new situation, there are plenty of games out there that Switch cannot handle. This is why they are massively downgraded like Witcher 3, or have cloud versions like Hitman 3. Also why I sold my Switch and got a Steam Deck, as it can actually handle these more intensive AAA titles. Consumers should not settle for less than adequate performance.

Reminds me of Dark Souls on PS3, ahhh memories!

@enrique7934

Жыл бұрын

Just blighttown, the ps3 runs better than nintendos tablet

@SBandy

Жыл бұрын

@@enrique7934 Been quite a few ports of games from PS3 era that run much better on Switch than PS3 so will call bollocks on that.

@zapallo566

Жыл бұрын

@@SBandy are you brain smoth? Because the ps3 came in 2006 and switch 2017

@enrique7934

Жыл бұрын

@@SBandy You do You. Enjoy your tablet.

@SBandy

Жыл бұрын

@@enrique7934 Nowt to do with "me doing me". You are just categorically incorrect.

Damn Nintendo is really flexing their exclusivity. 15fps games.

Hey glad to have you you back on content

Tom is having fun with mortal shell again! Yay!

Wait when the heck did THIS come out on Switch?! I didn’t even know this was even a thing; it didn’t even get a trailer on Nintendo’s own KZread channel!

@borrellipatrick

Жыл бұрын

Was featured on their Indie holiday special. Was 5 days of mini indie directs

Resolution is so low the almost "2D blockiness" apparence of a few textures could be a pass for a pixel art artistic approach somehow.

10:34 Oddly enough the plummeting framerate only occurs the first time you fight that boss. I died and the second time I fought it the framerate usually kept at about 30.

that’s why I’ve been using Steam Deck as a main console since I’ve got it. I really like portable consoles, and deck checks all marks for me

@artemkanaki9274

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 sure, when you play AAA it doesn’t last long. But I rather carry power bank with me then tolerate 15-20 fps

@crisbuenaventura6566

Жыл бұрын

You forgot to bring also 1M Mah of power bank 1hour for playing then 2-3 hours for charging

@edster1801

Жыл бұрын

​@@crisbuenaventura6566 lmao someone doesn't have a deck I see

@edster1801

Жыл бұрын

Haven't even used my steam deck since the day I got the steam deck, better overall

@crisbuenaventura6566

Жыл бұрын

@@edster1801 Yeah because i have my gaming PC for indoor While switch is for my outdoor

Bruh its a slideshow

15-40fps, no screen tearing, 720p-ish resolution. This is Watch Dogs on Wii U.

@bltzcstrnx

Жыл бұрын

Wait, Watch Dogs available on Wii U? Then it should be fine running on Switch but Ubisoft don't release it?

This reminds me of every time i reset the day in Majora's Mask when you need to go through south clock town in 12fps.

The time of impossible ports is long gone.

@cosmosofinfinity

Жыл бұрын

You could port Cyberpunk 2077 to Switch, if you're fine with 1 polygon at 1 fps. Technically possible! But just because we can, doesn't mean we should

i wonder how long before some of these developers just stop bothering with the Switch due to the terrible performance

I expect a corrective patch, or a video overclock I understand the hardware limitation but 15fps is too much, if I really have to choose 20/25fps sucks but at least there is a minimum of fluidity even though there should not be so low

3:01 Is it just me or are the stairs missing textures? This literally looks like the default checkerboard material in Unreal Engine.

Putting out a slideshow game, they shouldn't have even bothered.

DF should do switch vs steam deck comparisons instead of ps4.

Update 1.2 on switch today, sep 22, 2023. Dlc weapon still broken. Unknown changes, if any.

Nice! Was wondering when they would drop a hard mode for MS

A lot of the “impressive” inclusions should not have been included. How they expected a game that only runs 900p on ps4 at 30fps to work is beyond me.

Poor switch performance in 2023? Sounds about right.

1:47 i dont know but the switch footage made me laugh a lot.

isnt the game easyer in in slow-mo on the switch? they should do a balance patch 😅

They should revise artwork, textures, polycount and effects to cater the weaker hardware, not just try and brute force the game to run on the Switch. More people should learn from Playtonic for example, and how they ported Yooka Laylee to the Switch by revising art assets and modifying the game to run on it. At least this port tells us that Mortal Shell is possible, now revise the art style, effects and patch it. Easier said than done, I know.

Mortal Shell Demake Edition

Out of curiosity, why compare the Switch version with the PS4 version? There are many versions across platforms released.

@JulianCallan

Жыл бұрын

DF won’t buy Tom a PS5

tom is back and goes trough this cinema experience

Steam deck makes all non-nintendo games redundant on Switch anyway. You can easily play this game at 30fps Medium settings on Steam Deck and get over 2 hours of battery life.

@retrogamer64007

Жыл бұрын

I would rather play it on switch. It’s just a more slick console.

I would be interested to see how the game performs on a overclocked Switch. Please, do it.

@simonrockstream

Жыл бұрын

pointless, why.

@kigasdj2

Жыл бұрын

It would perform like crap. Switch is dead, it has no headroom, need switch 2 ASAP

@melu0o

Жыл бұрын

@@kigasdj2yup

upset, couldn't port my ps4 save to the ps5 upgraded version... (guess it's ment as a "NG+", without carrying any stats from a 1st playthrough...)

if this game can get ported, surely ds2/ds3 can as well? I understand that the average switch gamer probably doesn't want to play those games but there's still at least somewhat of an audience.

I’m surprised it’s even running on Switch considering how low resolution it is on last gen consoles and how brutal it is on budget PCs.

Developers figured out that on Switch games can be released unplayable and people will thank them, at most they will feel obliged to overclock the console to obtain acceptable performance.

I wonder if a normally clocked tegra x1 would play it fine.

Motion blur regularly bugs out too and gives epilepsy enduring flashing until you manually restart or turn off motion blur.

It's pretty cool how these UE4 games can run on switch at all given most games tend to play more like Xbox 360 level graphics with a little boost. The performance issues here definitely make that tough to appreciate though.

Poor performance on the switch? 🤔 now I’ve truly seen everything!

I think this game would benefit from a 10fps cap to even out the frametimes

@MrAmjak

Жыл бұрын

😁

@yobama5288

Жыл бұрын

LOL

It just got added to game pass, I would be curious to see how it runs on xbox one too, must be very similar to the ps4 version.

I suppose if the next Nintendo system is backwards compatible, many of these late games might play quite nicely on it. Despite the issues, I think it's always nice that more people have access to games than fewer.

Luckily the game is almost free in some parts of the world, its less than 1$ where I'm at when looking at currency translations (R18, South Africa), so even if it sucks, I'll get it and enjoy it on Switch 2.

@miguelangelramos7709

10 ай бұрын

Yes Sir just buyed it today 2.99 in us

@alirezagerami1215

10 ай бұрын

​@miguelangelramos7709 how is the fream rate?dose it receive any patches to improve fps?after this video

PS4: Mortal Shell Xbox One: Mortal Shell Pc: Mortal Shell Switch: : Mortal Shit

Cloth physics doesn't seem to be running in those clips, or at least some cloth physics appear to be turned off. The bits and bobs that are jiggling look like skinned and animated elements (the bits on the character's back).

I remember back when PC games used to run like this. Still looks fun, even if they could have toned down a few more things to get a little bit better performance.

It seems Nintendo demands games are fully v-synced on their platforms because I can't recall any games on Switch, Wii U, Wii etc that have screen tearing. And personally I would take a hit to the FPS to avoid screen tearing which I despise.

@christianr.5868

Жыл бұрын

I'd take tearing over framerate drops any day personally. As long as they're kept to the edges of the screen

@SBandy

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough, different strokes and all that.

I like souls, I like the switch, I would love to give it a try

Sometimes I couldn't tell if I was looking at the framerate or my KZread progress bar.

Nintendo really needs to release a new console. it really is about time

@halahmilksheikh

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this terrible performance is not "bespoke" or "ambitious", it's just sad.

@alexanderryufenando9711

Жыл бұрын

Its about power. We stay hungry, we devour

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

They really do. It is coming though, Nintendo releases a new console every 5 -7 years, Switch release was in March 2017. So we will hear about it this year or next.

@anasevi9456

Жыл бұрын

@@halahmilksheikh DigitalFoundry need to be called out, their standards for the Switch ports are downright sh!lling territory.

@supremekizzle

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderryufenando9711 Put in the work, put in the hours and take what's ours

Getting flashbacks from the N64 era, with all the terrible framerates. Just because you CAN port a game to the Switch, if it won't be able to run smoothly, then what's the point?

if you want it in "portable" form it runs great on the steam deck! if for some reason you like to walk around with a switch bulging out of your pocket though you might want something smaller ....

@Charles-hy6gp

Жыл бұрын

Well gamers are so cheap, BTW Steam Deck cost $399 at launch and came out in 2022 If a console is powerful, gamers would complain how expensive it is. If a console is weak, more gamers would brought it

12:30 I miss the old digital foundry background music

Really enjoyed this on pc. Sad to see the game struggle here.

Haven't really seen performance like this since those earlier PS3 titles. MGS4 would drag down in such a similiar way, Original Demon Souls too i'd say!

@Cogglesz

Жыл бұрын

@UChpAofKRd291DpNakFH5MrQ I hope it didn't come off as a dig at MGS4. I absolutely adored the game back in the day. Still do :) Just yeah i remember you'd have a decent 30's and then as soon as any alpha happened with the gecko's or heavy cutscenes we'd be halfing the frame rate for a brief while. It's no where near as bad in Demon souls either, Like IV. It would only really dip during wild alpha effects and particles kicked in. Just back in 07' that was fine for us, especially for a cinematic game like MGS. 2023 on switch? It's crazy for me to see it being a problem at all.

@idakev

Жыл бұрын

@@Cogglesz Oh yeah, you're definitely right that MGS4 struggled in heavier scenes to an extent that wouldn't be acceptable now. I just think this port is actually way worse, haha. It doesn't seem too playable in general combat 9:18. And it was released almost 15 years later. 😑 In this, you really do seem to be stuck in 12-23fps territory (usually < 20) during combat most of the time. It looks horrendous

@yellowblanka6058

Жыл бұрын

This is PSP level poor performance, I think you're being kind.

@Cogglesz

Жыл бұрын

@@yellowblanka6058 I was 🤣 The ones i listed are regareded as some of the best PS3 games ever. Just if you lived in that gen and spent many hours so many AAA tiles in the 360/PS3 gemeratopm just couldn't maintain its 60 ot 30 fps target. Fallout NV on PS3 with it's 12 fps. That collectors edition burn made me go full gaming and console secondary lmao

I have trouble understanding the frame tear chart that’s overlaid in the frame rate chart… could this be explained or presented in a bit more of an idiot proof way?

Will OC help?

Seems like maybe it's a combo of a CPU and Memory Bottleneck? (the worst drops occuring when fighting enemies in areas with fog where both CPU and Memory would be taxed for Switch)

@yancgc5098

Жыл бұрын

The GPU is also holding things back here considering how low the resolution is, but a better CPU and faster RAM would make the experience more stable at least.

Looks like a great game to test overclocking on the switch. Also emulators will run this at 60fps.

@agromchung

Жыл бұрын

Why would you play it on an emulator when you can just get the PC version

@shoego

Жыл бұрын

@@agromchung to test the emulators?

Frames Per Shell At this point, devs and pubs are just throwing stuff MVP (minimum viable product) at the Switch. "Does it turn on? Good...ship it."

11:42 HA! Almost 60 FPS, not even PS4 can do that! Switch > PS4 confirmed

Almost every switch port is riddled with issues… almost as if we need better hardware 😳

@parasolo89

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's a very strange conundrum. 🤔

@enrique7934

Жыл бұрын

A mistery, never to be solved

@Joseph-wh5of

Жыл бұрын

Mmm... If only Nintendo would actually release a more powerful switch instead of just an OLED screen.

@WalkerIGP

Жыл бұрын

I love the sarcasm displayed on here, top marks guys!

@ishaansaral502

Жыл бұрын

@Joseph Nintendo fanboys will eat anything Nintendo releases. An overpriced underpowered POS? I'll take your entire stock. Overpriced ports of wii games? How generous. They get what they deserve. The Deck is just better in every way, but their OLED screen somehow fixes all the performance issues.

At some point Nintendo's interest in building low grade hardware has to stop in some way. These constant performance struggles in various games are a genuine scare for me, away from the Switch.

@Charles-hy6gp

Жыл бұрын

Well a very powerful console is expensive If someone makes an underpowered console, its because of the low price and to sell for profits

@b01scout96

Жыл бұрын

@@Charles-hy6gp I agree, I don't like Nintendo's min-maxing with the Switch though. The tablet's specs were luke warm even in 2017.

@yellowblanka6058

Жыл бұрын

From a business perspective, why would they? They made a healthy profit on each Switch sold, while still being able to sell at a lower price than the competition, they're still making money hand-over-fist on first-party software and much of their audience seem oblivious to the technical issues as they only play a handful of first-party games. Nintendo is nothing if not shrewd business-wise - don't get me wrong, not condoning them using the weakest hardware they can (Capcom had to beg them to up the RAM to 4GB), just saying that knowing them they'll only upgrade to newer hardware when it's strictly necessary (eg. when sales of original Switch drop off a cliff)

How about a +10fps DLC?

i wonder if overclocking the switch in CFW would help

I think you just saved me a lot of disappointment. I really appreciate this video, dude.

When they run QA and testing pre-release I am certain at some point someone notices issues like this so it's baffling that they either don't scrap the project altogether or just hold off on it until they KNOW they can deliver a quality product. Why actually attempt to sell us migraines?

@modermonkula

Жыл бұрын

Better to sell something rather than nothing?

@hugejackedman3447

Жыл бұрын

@@modermonkula It has to sell though! lol

@bltzcstrnx

Жыл бұрын

@@hugejackedman3447 it's an indie title, so they probably have different standards. Besides souls games from PS3 and PS4 also tends to have frame rate drops and stutters.

@hugejackedman3447

Жыл бұрын

@@bltzcstrnx Fair enough, but this wasn't specifically directed to this title in particular. This is an all too often issue in general. As we speak we are currently dealing with this issue with a Pokemon game and that of course comes from a high profile developer working with the "highest" high profile developer! lol

@bltzcstrnx

Жыл бұрын

@@hugejackedman3447 Pokemon is far worse since it's a first party exclusive game.

Oh, my goodness... If we were in the days of Genesis or Turbo Grafx where you could strap another piece of hardware to an existing console, maybe we could strap a 4090 on to the Switch, then we would be "playing with power".

That poor Tegra X1 hanging on to dear life..

@dariosandoval3608

Жыл бұрын

Well its Nintendo, they are creating weak consoles since the Wii Even thought it sold better than PS3 and 360, it had shorter lifespan than both consoles

@nickramos5614

Жыл бұрын

That Nintendo for ya buddy all they care is about money

Another day another game that proves we need a switch 2.0

@WERV2003

Жыл бұрын

But we don't know how "powerful" it will really be, maybe the difference between Switch 2 and PS5 is the same as between Switch 1 and PS4 so the problem would remain the same.

@DJBV

Жыл бұрын

@@WERV2003 if its at least on par with a base ps4 with some new features like nvidia dlss it would be enough

People on NintendoLife is actually defending this shitty port, calling it great, and don't notice the horrible framerate. 😂

Maybe they were hoping switch pro would be out by the time they are finished.. And then they saw OLED with no power upgrade and were halfway into the development :D

Good to see N is plaing on strecht the Switch another decade xD

They lowered the price for the game on the e-shop when compared to the Steam (Deck) version for example - there you have to pay a similar price just for the base game, but you don't get the DLC bundled in like you do on the Switch. That's significant for the dev and publisher, but the game itself already is and always was pretty cheap for a game of this magnitude and production quality, in my opinion. Also, since this is a souls-like game, are there any mechanics that stop working during frame drops on Nintendo Switch? Like the parry-system - does that play into the framedrops or are parries just impossible when frame drops appear?

@ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s

Жыл бұрын

Pricing of the pc version is a tricky one, its £25 on steam right now and £4 for the dlc, however the pc version was previously given away free on Epic and 70% off on Steam.

The Tom Morgan Mortal Shell saga continues. I'm looking forward to the next installment. Shame they couldn't quite keep the framerate up, but it's always fun to see Switch punching above its weight

@MsNellyuan

Жыл бұрын

It did ? Looks like it has completely misses all of its jabs .

@pokealong

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you know what that term means. Because the Switch definitely is not punching above it's weight here.

Wasn't MK11 on a highly customised version of UE3?

They should think about changing fog into motion blur

The people who finish this game on Switch are the true elite. FromSoft stans has nothing on you.

@enrique7934

Жыл бұрын

Yeah no. It's the switch like very cheap? I don't get why they like to surfer like this.