any public money spent on a stadium is a loss. stadiums are a losing deal for cities. studies have shown they bring nothing to cities. the whole economic value studies are a scam. they have no actual receipts to prove the return on investments. las vegas agreed with the study that stadiums bring no value to cities. except for las vegas because they have so much tourism. wait till their baseball stadium opens and no one shows up. if the stadium is such a great deal. why doesn't the team pay for the stadium and keep all the profits. because they are looking for some sucker to pay for a free stadium and the team pays nothing and keeps all the profits.

@stickynorth

6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! Edmonton built Rogers Place and it costs us $35M/year and we get no profit from it. Meanwhile the tent cities in downtown grow larger by the day and continue to burst into flames as people try to stay warm in the negative degree weather... We could probably afford to put each and everyone up in a hotel for the winter with that kind of cash but you know... Priorities... Billionaires need love support and shit-tons of taxpayers cash too you know!

@Fireyninjadog

6 ай бұрын

I think spending money on things, like hospitals and schools, is more beneficial because it helps a lot more people. Everyone needs healthcare, and an education

@djm5687

6 ай бұрын

Who wants to be *"The mayor/governor who oversaw The [team name] moving away"?* *_That_* is why taxpayers have to pay for new stadiums.

@djm5687

6 ай бұрын

​@Fireyninjadog Hospitals and schools are occupied for well over 200 days per year. Sports stadiums are open as little as 9 days per year (NFL), to *at most* 95 days per year (81 game MLB regular season + playoffs).

@BrownBomber92181

6 ай бұрын

Thats a fact!

America needs to get over its obsession with building newer and shinier baubles... Especially if the taxpayer is forking over the cash. 100% privately financed projects are one thing but public money that could go to many many other much needed infrastructure and nation-building projects? Not so much... All the facilities need to be built with 25-year minimum use clauses... Probably longer...

@pootypump7440

6 ай бұрын

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The Olympic Stadium in Montreal was a big waste of money. The various levels of government were still paying for it long after the Expos left. I don’t believe the retractable roof ever worked properly

Unless the tenant is paying for the stadium, it’s a waste of money. Billions are spent by governments under the guise it will bring jobs to the region. They’re all part time jobs and even those are being automated

@kevin1153

4 ай бұрын

It creates a significant amount of jobs during the building process. Temporarily a huge boost to the local economy. That’s what the politicians want, you can campaign on short term gains way easier than long term sustainable growth.

The Georgia Dome was a needed complex for the Olympics and due to its location, contributed to the growth of Atlanta as a major convention host. Plus adding a dome stadium allowed for events that couldn’t be held at Atlanta Fulton County stadium, especially in the winter months.

It's sad when people spend so much of their Tax dollars on these new stadiums and they are already past their prime right after they are built Now we are dealing with the same thing with Kauffman Stadium and alot of people here that I have talked to don't see what's wrong with Kauffman Stadium

@skidawg22

6 ай бұрын

The Royals hosted a few town hall meetings last off season - I attended two of them - at which they explicitly said what was wrong with Kauffman. Stadium experts (which KC has a lot of) concluded that it would cost slightly more to renovate Kauffman than it would to build anew. Secondly, they really should have been Downtown in the first place, so hopefully East Village is where they build that new ballpark.

@scarpfish

6 ай бұрын

@@skidawg22 They just renovated it and Arrowhead like 15 years ago.

@jeffc1347

6 ай бұрын

In real estate there is a phrase: "location, location, location." When Kauffman was built suburbia with big parking lots was "in," now denser urban areas with better transit are more popular.

They got a lot of use for the Georgia Dome. Super Bowls, Final 4s, Bulldogs and Falcons football, 1996 Olympics...it was not a waste of money. It was just that in an era of luxury suites they wanted something sparkling new.

@battle4truth701

6 ай бұрын

AND we can always sleep well knowing we routed the packers in the last game in the Dome. I miss that place, it was not all that bad.

The Georgia Dome was vital for the 1996 Olympics. It staged Gymnastics in one half and Basketball in the other.

@baseballworldwide9439

6 ай бұрын

Who cares

@andyroid5028

5 ай бұрын

*Yeah, but it was still a colossal waste of taxpayer money. I say this as one of those fleeced taxpayers.*

It's funny how New Comiskey and Camden Yards were designed by the same architectural firm, opening a year apart. When New Comiskey opened I thought it was a refreshing modern departure from the multi use stadium era, although yes the upper deck is very steep. As a fan my biggest want is a good view of the game, followed by access to concessions and facilities where I don't have to wait forever in line. I'd honestly be happier to catch a game in one of the modern stadiums than have a view obstructed seat at Wrigley or Fenway (which I have...at both). But that's me, if the stakeholders have figured out that nostalgia sells more tickets, that's fine.

@patmanbnl

6 ай бұрын

The White Sox could have been the first of the retro parks if they wanted. Look up Armour Field.

The Georgia Dome was really to young to go but it just didn't work with what the city needed. MBS is always being used for conventions and drawn bigger events than the dome ever could. Just to black out the dome it would take about 3 days and 200,000 dollars in rental and labor to install the black out curtain. Then not inculding the building couldn't take much load for shows.

At least your points on stadiums are much valid than Depressed Ginger

@djtrankilo231

6 ай бұрын

I always take Depressed Ginger's takes with a grain of salt. His efforts in his videos are lackluster

@greggyd4734

6 ай бұрын

For the most part, I do like Ginger’s videos, although sometimes I feel he can be a little TOO critical, especially when it comes to current NFL stadiums, such as in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Tampa. I think Ginger has become spoiled, as others probably as well, with the newer ballparks like Sofi, Alligent, and AT&T!

I’ve been to guaranteed rate field. The seats are very high and steep. The only thing really good about that place is the exploding score 2:20 board.

Tampa Bay is going to build a new stadium and still have little attendance. I very much question baseball in Floridas success not during February and March.

@cliffpadilla5871

6 ай бұрын

Florida is a football state.

@joshuaw711

6 ай бұрын

@@cliffpadilla5871 And yet there’s a group pushing for a team in Orlando. Because Orlando doesn’t have enough overpriced, yet fun, tourist traps.

@wmw3629

6 ай бұрын

That stadium is far from a done deal yet!

@spacemansports4129

6 ай бұрын

@@joshuaw711the Magic don’t draw much fans unless if teams like the Miami Heat, Lakers, Warriors, are in town Orlando enjoys Minor league sports than pro sports.

@1JACK5ON

6 ай бұрын

I've always said that baseball only belongs in Florida during spring training

New Comiskey was an eyesore the day they opened it. The Georgia Dome, on the other hand, was used during the 1996 Olympics. The timing is what made it obsolete, as no one was building stadiums with obsolescence in mind in 1992. Think about the Pontiac Silverdome and the Alamodome.

The Georgia Dome wasn't a waste of money it was the stadium that came after it that was.

@mikebuglione32

6 ай бұрын

The Benz or Turner Field?

@dvferyance

6 ай бұрын

@@mikebuglione32 the Benz.

@jasonrandom372

6 ай бұрын

Beg to differ buddy! How the hell does a Stadium become outdated after only being around for 25 years?

@dvferyance

6 ай бұрын

@@jasonrandom372 it was too early for a replacement.

The plight of the Georgia Dome (and Turner Field) only makes Los Angeles all the more impressive as an Olympic city. They are still getting use out of facilities built for the 1932 Olympics.

I've mentioned in a comment on another video here, the color of the seats in a stadium SHOULD be irrelevant. If people sit in the seats, you can't see what color they are.

GA Dome wasn't a waste. It was a much better venue than the current Mercedes Benz stadium.

The Georgia Dome was a cool experience with the blow up dome. That tech couldn’t last but it felt more natural than the solid domes of that era.

Meanwhile in Toronto we have the 1989 Honda Civic EX of a stadium that's currently gettin' pimped. Grass? No but we have a sunroof that still works. The SkyDome doesn't die.

@JD200_

6 ай бұрын

I really hope they keep it around for awhile

@Hogtownboy1

6 ай бұрын

It cost 300MM and Rogers got it for 25MM so yes waste of money. It easily the ugliest exterior of a stadium in all major leagues sports.

@stickynorth

6 ай бұрын

Doesn't die but does soak up cash like Drug Fraud at a coke bash!

@patmanbnl

6 ай бұрын

Now thinking of the old show Pimp My Ride.

@dupontcirclepictures5021

6 ай бұрын

I still have a 1983 Honda Civic

most stadiums are a waste of money. Love college sports for it's private funding and generally renovating existing venues as needed.

@reverend_wintondupree

6 ай бұрын

Dont give college sports too much credit as many college sports stadiums also have/currently/will require taxpayer funding raised in addition to "private" funds.

At the time, we used to call it the Dumb Dome in Georgia. No one liked it. Everyone hated it. It was a terrible idea.

Merry Christmas mate! Have a great holiday period

Whatever they call that albatross of a stadium in Miami(you said what it was, I already forgot) is a colossal dump. It's not even an exciting stadium to go into. Went there in 2018 for a game. Maybe 5,000 people there. It was so stale and so generic feeling. And the fact that it killed any shot for the real team down there(the Dolphins) to get new stadium money made it even worse. Miami and Dade County got absolutely fleeced for the funding for that trash heap...

Drum Corps International (basically a large circuit of competitive marching bands) used to have a regional event at the Georgia Dome (one of the few shows where every corps performed). Despite being an indoor stadium, they had a "rain delay" the very first year due to a pipe bursting in one of the upper decks.

@floridaman5125

6 ай бұрын

Georgia she’s does have a lot of pipe leaks at the worst times.

Love this channel

LoanDepot is not really a complete waste of money, it's hosted concerts and events outside of baseball. And a lot more people came to the games this season during our push for the postseason and the World Baseball Classic. The Caribbean series coming up in February is going to draw big crowds. Keep up the good work.

MSG was a waste of money when they demolished Penn station back in the 60s.

I can't keep track of all the corporate naming rights johns, so I don't know if it's one and the same, but at 0:47 it has a cell phone carrier's name directly below the Mickey D's logo. I haven't attended a baseball game since 1994 as that's when there was a strike (lockout?) in MLB. As someone else mentioned, stadiums/fields/arena/parks/call-them-what-you-will are all a total waste of money not only for the city they are in, but for the folks around them (ok, maybe the parking lots nearby charging 50% of the field's parking rate make some money). And when the john goes out of business (Enron, anyone) now you got to find another sucker (john) to kick in what, $20,000,000 per year for 20 years (citibank).

@jeffc1347

6 ай бұрын

It was originally called Comiskey Park, then US Cellular Field, and is now Guaranteed Rate Field.

I coached a country wide high school robotics competition at the Georgia Dome circa 2007-2008. It was nice enough, but nothing stood out as exceptional. At least I can say I walked around on the field.

Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara is also a waste of money

How was the Georgia dome a waste? Over 25 years it hosted the Olympics basketball and gymnastics, many many concerts including U2, Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, The Rolling Stones, Metallica, Jay Z, Tim McGraw, One Direction, and Paul McCartney, the annual Peach Bowl game, hundreds of Atlanta Falcons home games, multiple Superbowls, multiple SEC football and basketball championships, the annual Monster Jam, major boxing matches including Evander Holyfield, WWF, movie filmings, multiple NCAA basketball final fours (both mens and womens), American Idol auditions, bull riding competitions, robotics competitions, chick Fil-A bowls, ACC basketball tournaments, hundreds of Georgia State University home football games, multiple international soccer games including the US and Mexico national teams, professional soccer games including AC Milan and Club America, Wrestlemania, and more.

@ForgottenPlaces Young Man ; In their prime both The Georgia Dome and The New Comisky Park were Classics !. It received extensive damage from a tornado that went through Atlanta a few years ago. Please don’t slam stadiums if YOU DON’T Know the history directly behind them !!. Have a nice day.

These massive new stadiums do not bring in massive amounts of money. New convention centers lose money the truth is simple u have to have events going on daily 365 just to break even taxpayer money should be spent on roads and water projects.

MONTREAL is going to waste more money on Olympic Station, that needs its own video, latest is 800 million to fix the roof, VS 2 Billion to demolis.h it. What a joke

The marlins need a team, they CAN get north of 60,000 fans in a stadium. So i still dont think it is a fan problem

All of them are a waste of money

Isn’t extortion a crime??

Say whatever crap you will about the multipurpose stadium era. Those stadiums may have been unsightly dumps, with terrible sight lines for both sports, but cities got great utility out of them and they had longer lives than some of their shiny sport specific replacements have.

Marlins stadium is super nice and isn’t a waste lots of people go to the games and they host more than baseball

I actually like Loan Depot Park very nice ballpark

Miami losing money

Where's Truist park on this list? You forgot it. Also you better not single handily be the reason the Marlins relocate 1:50

plus you get shot watching the game in chicago

The Georgia Dome wasn't a waste of money..It wasn't the nicest inside, but it was big and symmetrical..It held Olympic events, Super Bowls, NCAA Final Fours, SEC basketball and football games, Falcons games, and a few Hawks games..Even parts of Drumline and Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk were filmed there..I saw both of those movies in theaters, and both were good..🏟🏈🏀🥁🪖🎥🎥