Thanks for taking the time to do this. Im going to buy an 75-5089D with the dry filter.

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

Its a good kit with better than stock air flow and will add some sound to the intake if that's also what you are looking for.

Been thinking about picking one of these up soon...thanks for doing all the scientific stuff!

Made a hole through passanger fender liner so it can get a bit better air

Cool and informative video. This S&B cold air intake seems to do what they advertise. I have a K&N filter on my Zr2 and have often wondered how much extra power and torque increase if any I was getting. The Mallet Full Exhaust I have installed is giving and extra 11 horses and 16 pound feet of torque, was hoping I was getting maybe a few more horses and a little more torque with the K&N filter also

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Are you running the K&N FIPK or just drop in filter?

@timricks1149

3 жыл бұрын

K&n drop in filter

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

@@timricks1149 I'll see if I can get one and do a stock vs drop in flow bench test.

@timricks1149

3 жыл бұрын

That would be great. I actually have a cold air inductions cold air intake which is the exact same one you can get from GM but I really did not like the setup or sound it gave. I have read that sometimes to much air can actually reduce power, engine needing the vacuum effect and to much can reduce power. .

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

@@timricks1149 I don't know how "too much air" could or would be an issue. Now if that was unmetered air it would cause an air / fuel issue but I don't think you need to worry about that as the motor will only draw what it can ... it's unlikely but possible that very poor design might cause some unmetered air condition.

These filters may add some power due to less restriction and maybe sucking in colder air, however the reusable or cotton filters have a much larger pore size than paper filters. So when these get installed 10 times out of 10 you see in increase in iron and/or silicon in your oil if you're to do lab results. Thats because more material is getting through your intake and wearing down your cylinder walls, crank, cams, etc. The big ticket item is to really look at the iron, as the sand gets all caught by the oil filter, but the iron particle size is too small to. Theres only one place iron comes from and thats your own engine. Being that your rig looks pretty "off road" i'd highly highly highly recommend you do not take that filter into the dirt or sand. You'd be far better off with dual paper filters, in parallel, to increase surface area and reduce filter pressure drop.

@exhaustinglife

Жыл бұрын

Your generalizations are not false but they are speculation at best. "10 times out of 10" literally requires you do 10 actual tests but figuratively would at least suggest one test of the parts in question was actually done to substantiate the claim. Additionally, the assumption that all cotton filter's (which this one is an oiled cotton filter) pore sizes are always larger than the OEM paper requires some inspection and investigation. I have done neither and could not assume porosity and particle size in microns, as such could not make the claim that you are. The increases in air flow can be had (as you mentioned in your dual paper element comment) by increasing surface area, which the S&B element does measure almost 75% larger than stock. The intake tube shape and volume might have some optimizations over OEM to better overall flow but further FEA modeling would be needed. I observed 25-30 percent increase in flow which quite possibly could be achieved by have 100% more paper filter too so the numbers are not far from reality. With all that said, your point of filtration quality is definitely a 100% valid one but unfortunately you are going to have to bring some data to the table to say how I or anyone would be "far better off" and by just how much.

@t_c5266

Жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife I'll point you to 2 videos. Project farm's filter test, and a video called 50,000 mile kn filter test. I'll repost my comment from the 50,000 mile video. But he has lab results in it. Here is my analysis of what happened and why this is not a meaningful result: Very fine sand particles average 60 microns in size (the silicon measured). And oil filter is 8-40 micron pore size. So the filters would be catching near 100% of any sized sand in the engine. The only stuff that is going to show up is the extremely extremely find particles that will make it through the paper air filter (25-30 micron) and the oil filter. Because these particles are going to be very small, 8 micron particle size from the K&N. Next we look at the Iron results. Iron has a particle size of 4-20 micron on average. Much smaller than sand on average. Which also means a huge amount is going to be making it through the oil filter. This variable also isolates the filter out because it has nothing to do with incoming particle size, but particle size produced as a direct result of wear on the engine. As soon as the filter swaps in we jump from 7 to 10 ppm. That "doesn't sound like a lot" but once you put on your math goggles you realize that he just increased his engine wear by 40%. thats a FORTY PERCENT INCREASE IN WEAR. And before someone who doesn't know how to do math jumps into the comments, no its not a 30% increase. its 42% of 7, then added to the 7, to make 10. a 40% increase. Where is this material coming from? Exactly where he said its coming from. CYLINDER WALLS. It drops down to 8, which is still a 15% increase in wear from stock value. Think about it. Would you ever purchase something if when you bought it there was a stamp on it that said "your engine wear will increase 15-40%" ?? NO. you WOULDNT

@t_c5266

Жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife just to add a little background as well. I'm a propulsion/fluids engineer. I haven't don't the cfd (fea is more of a stress/strain thing. Computational fluid dynamics is what we'd want here) either, but you'd need to minimize bends, maximize surface smoothness, maximize cold air, and minimize intake distance to get the better flow, just intuitively. Which these intakes usually do. So that's an obvious win. However on the filter size, you simply cannot manufacture cotton filters down to paper filter pore size. A good body of evidence on this is all the recent research on paper vs cotton masks. I will also add that you shouldn't take my word for it. You should do the test yourself. Run a paper filter for an oil change. Do a nice flush. And get a baseline. Then switch over to kn and see how your lab results change.

@exhaustinglife

Жыл бұрын

@@t_c5266 lol actually, yes I would and did purchase something that does that ... even though it doesn't has a stamp that says that. I purchased a supercharger which trades accelerated engine, transmission, driveline and suspension wear for performance. It also might produce a few more smiles per gallon and the tradeoff is equitable in my consideration. Can we agree that the world is not so absolute as you state it? People often have different values and reasons as to why and what they do for modifications. I can respect your opinion and and insight but some people like the looks, sound and other qualitative features that don't even effect performance which was the actual topic of the video, not so much filtration quality. I thank you for the extra reading but that still doesn't address the actual parts I spoke to in the video ( I don't know if the S&B and K&N are similar in construction) but the videos and discussion is relative to the topic of a cotton filter vs. paper. In the end OEM's still use paper for a reason, probably warranty related, but OEM's always leave something on the table which is why the aftermarket exists and why people can choose to leave things alone or change them to their liking and trade off potential longevity for potential power. It may not be right in your assessment but its really up to them.

@t_c5266

Жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife I think the problem really is the filters are marketed as just as good, and people believe that they are getting a product that has no drawbacks only positives. I have no issues with people using their own stuff however they like. I have issues with false claims and false marketing, especially when it becomes a cult following like with cold air intakes and cotton filters. As long as people acknowledge they're hurting their engine for a little noise and a 1% power increase, that's fine by me

Awesome info! Thanks. Where did those Led headlights come from?

@exhaustinglife

11 ай бұрын

I have a video on that but they are trash product and don't age well. They failed within a year.

So how much for a very minor hp increase lol.

I'm interested in this intake, but curious if mpg will go down as a result of more gas needed to feed more air. With gas over 4 bucks that's more of an issue than it used to be

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

With this intake I didn't see a drastic drop and I was hard on the throttle for dyno testing as well as for some sound recordings. I would imagine that it would not have a negative effect on fuel so long as you didn't go around smashing the throttle so you can hear it more. Overall the dyno testing showed that the truck ran leaner and the factory calibration was NOT over-fueling to compensate, which is why it also made power. If the design of the intake does not consider the limitations of the calibration then poor fuel economy can be a result.

Did you decide to leave the extra plate on or have you removed it? I just installed this system on Friday and so far I am liking the intake slurp lol. I did leave my plate on. I don’t off road but do plan to hunt. This is my everyday driver. Would I be ok with the extra plate off? Have you done anything with exhaust? Mines a 22 Canyon 4x4 crew cab king bed.

@exhaustinglife

11 ай бұрын

I left it on due to that amount of time I spent in the dirt. The biggest gains in airflow were achieved from stock to blocked off. The additional airflow gains with the block off plate removed are notable but not enough to sacrifice better filtration off road. If all you do is street driving its safe to say leaving it off is not going to be a big issue if you like the extra noise. Full disclosure I work for MagnaFlow so I am a little biased but i do believe we have a solid offering and ran both our street series and overland series on the truck with great results. You will find a few videos on the technology and performance of the exhaust parts on my channel here. Subscribe and check it out as I tried to leave a ton of content here for Colorado and Canyon owners.

@tattooeditalian2895

11 ай бұрын

@@exhaustinglife thank you very much!! I will look at the videos. I definitely want to do an exhaust. I know it will never sound like a v8. I want sound.

Had 4 injectors stay open on my 15 3.6L colorado, and filled the motor with gas. $2100 later, dealer replaced all injectors, spark plugs, and fuel rails, and drained/cleaned the motor. I still notice some spark knock. What's the easiest way to see if I need newer/better plugs, coils, higher octane or timing adjustment? Sort of on a limited budget right now but don't want another huge problem to come up.

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like something wrong with the vehicle ... Are you thinking it has to do with an intake or are you just asking a question here not related to the video? It's ok either way but I'm trying to understand how to answer.

@thereeds0612

2 жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife - Not related. Lol. I'm trying to figure out what is causing my spark knock without spending a ton of money to find out it was something inexpensive.

I have this cold air on my 19 Colorado and a Gibson proformance exhaust, i dont have it turned, how important is getting it tuned our am i good to just run it as is without damaging my engine?

@exhaustinglife

7 ай бұрын

if you are going to get a custom tune by a tuner on your vehicle, I would say go for it. Canned tunes or tune by mail are just going to be based on averages and may or may not provide repeatable results with modified (non-stock) vehicles. From what I learned on my vehicle on the specific products I ran, when combined they each worked to increase performance but together they did appear to lean out the mixture enough to cause a reaction from the knock sensor which would cost a couple HP but would not hurt the motor / truck. I would be comfortable saying that unless you feel the truck respond with a notable power loss hearing detonation or see a flashing check engine light I would say you are safe.

Would this S&B CAI be compatible with the AEV snorkel?

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, minor trimming would be needed at the fender inlet to match the needs of the Snorkel pass through pipe.

Good vid! What's that front bumper?

@exhaustinglife

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's the stock 2017-2022 Colorado ZR2 Bison bumper. It's available from AEV Conversions for non-Bison Colorados.

@exhaustinglife

Жыл бұрын

www.aev-conversions.com/product/aev-bison-front-bumper/#center-section-color

My question is…could this be made to be compatible with the edelbrock supercharger? Not the tune as I’ll address that with custom tuning, but the actual piping coming over from the tb area of the sc?

@exhaustinglife

11 ай бұрын

I imagine you could "make" it work but its not going to be bolt-on by any means as the TB inlet is not close to the same area. The bigger concern is the tuning but you addressed that.

@dansherwood9851

11 ай бұрын

@@exhaustinglife after a fair amount of research it appears the only cai that’s compatible with the Edelbrock sc is the one made by the manufacturer that provides them for gm. Thx

Is that an oiled filter? I'm trying to keep oil ou of my intake...

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

The one I used is an oiled cotton and reusable however they do offer it in a standard paper dry element as well

Any recommendations on a exhaust for a diesel Colorado?

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

If it's got to be EPA legal, the only options are for better tail pipe clearance and aesthetics.

Sweet how were you able to purchase that in California?

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

You cannot and its not on the vehicle for highway operation. This product is a Federal Emissions compliant part only.

@paulcorreia6730

3 жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife perfect answer....lol

@vw1610

2 жыл бұрын

I shipped mine to my cousin in az. Eff ca bs regulations. It’s just a cash grab.

Are you running this intake with the newly installed mallet supercharger?

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

No this was content I had filmed before but not had time to edit. Currently the airbox itself doesn't particularly lend itself to supercharger use and there is both issues with the mallet reservoir and the AEV winch bracket interference with the airbox.

@XjDrZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife so factory air box is Whats needed

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

@@XjDrZ so far yes ... GMPP might be an option but I would want to get one to test and compare.

@madcratebuilder

3 жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife I have the CAI intake and the air box is very close to OEM in size, it also mates to the AEV snorkel very nice.

How's the HP gains with a tune?

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

I have not had a tune on the truck. There are lots of claims on gains but I have not had the chance to check them on a platform myself.

@exhaustinglife

2 жыл бұрын

@@billybritt5334 YOU can believe whatever you want ... I actually ran the testing in a controlled environment. I am a fairly critical person and did this out of my own curiosity because I have the means as a developmental engineer. Spend the money to do some testing and lets talk, until then your opinions are appreciated but unevaluable without any substance.

What octane fuel was used? Will 93 induce less knock retard and equal more power? Lots of debate on this. This is the first vehicle I've owned where some spark knock is normal. Forums basically say the ECM adjusts and it isn't enough to worry about...

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

The testing was done with top tier 91 Octane California oxygenated MTBE pump gas ... which is pretty much the lowest grade of top tier CA 91 fuel. Keep in mind I gave the ECM zero time other than the 3 dyno passes to adjust for any fuel trimming that might have happened with some drive time. It very possible that the observed reduction in power with some street driving may have allowed for some fuel trimming to better accommodate the better air flow and newly introduced leaner condition. GM has used multiple octane spark table for some time back as far as the early 2000's when I started tuning LS motors. Today the engine management systems are more sophisticated and much faster and can mitigate some spark knock but I am never comfortable with the idea of knock. Keep in consideration these DI motors are quite noisy and some degree of "observed" knock is false knock. Also be aware that GM's torque management system will report timing reductions due to the vehicles torque profile as Knock Retard depending on the software.

@Bearded_SARTECH

3 жыл бұрын

@@exhaustinglife Gotcha. I use to monitor knock retard in my rides, but stopped with the LGZ. A lot of the knock could be false but the KR is always what it comes down to. I wonder if the LGZ shows any major difference in output between low octane and high octane after long term fuel trims stabilize with each. Forums say no...but my conventional wisdom says the fuel trims and KR would have to allow for some extra timing with premium gas and equal some power. BTW, great content 👌

@exhaustinglife

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bearded_SARTECH Forums are a good reference point but i tend to lean on my own data and findings. At the moment, i don't have enough to be conclusive but based on my experiences and the small sample set of info from my CTS 3.6 LFX and this LGZ I'm leaning on the ECU having reasonable capabilities to learn. More testing and logging will either prove me wrong or re affirm what i think is happening.

Better gas mileage?

@exhaustinglife

Жыл бұрын

Its possible based on the data and dyno testing but the problem I have always suffered from is that when I get more power I use more power. I have never been good at driving it less hard with more power.

But unless you keep your truck for 7 plus years its not really worth the money for a 10 hp jump. Really boils down to the sound

@exhaustinglife

10 ай бұрын

10 HP is 10 HP, regardless of how much time is involved, unless you meant to speak to miles per gallon, which, like you said, has poor return over time. The 10 HP gain is enough to offset some parasitic losses incurred with my larger tires or more gear. 10 hp is not going to substatially change your truck's performance but it's still one of the only legal means to increase power that also will not void a warranty.