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If they turned Daemon loose from the very beginning, he might have murked Otto. Otto aimed too high.
@bowfinnbass8836
Ай бұрын
If viserys made daemon the hand from the beginning there would have been no war and the dragons would still exist during danerys's time era
@indiadecoseytillman
Ай бұрын
@@bowfinnbass8836 Agreed.
@anaellesia7818
Ай бұрын
@bowfinnbass8836 I mean... he would have died eventually. Daenerys was born approximatively 180 years after the reign of Viserys. Daemon is supposedly in his thirties, but he can't live eternally and people cannot expect him to hold the realm together until Daenerys is born (if you think she's a great ruler then you're wrong btw). Maybe he woul've ensured a stable reign for his brother and established the power and the majesty of his house, yet you never know what your offspring will be capable of. That's exactly what happened with the Old King, Jaehaerys I.
@daniyalnaqvi2569
Ай бұрын
@anaellesia7818 they're talking about Dragons living till Dany's time, not Daemon living till her time
@indiadecoseytillman
Ай бұрын
@@daniyalnaqvi2569 yes, you're correct. Although I would love a wild twist of Daemon living agelessly forever...the dragons still being alive would be better candidates. Hopefully we are given the details regarding Daenerys' eggs. In a way, I think I'd feel a little less disappointed about what happened to Danny's babies with an origin background. The conflicting theories are taking me out. I saw Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viserion-were supposed to descend from Dreamfyre, who is the only adult female dragon noted in the book to have laid eggs (that egg part was found, don't hurt me if it's untrue). Then there's the Rhaegal would have been born from an egg laid by Vhagar, Drogon by Balerion, and Viserion by Meraxes theory. Lastly, we have the egg hustler woman named Elissa Farman and I'm not even touching that.
even syrax agreed with daemon
@KhaliqahAzima
23 күн бұрын
Why not? Daemon boys are...umm...tasty?
"Places of high honor at court" is a polite way of saying "political hostages."
This man is royal in every roll he plays 💯🤣
@JamilaMarshall-jd6jr
Ай бұрын
Right at first you know it is early days I'm like ew he ugly but now I can't get enough of him Just is regal attitude I'm sure the accent helps but absolutely Matt Smith is royalty at its finest and I would have him no other way big forehead and ears and all😅 he's beautiful to me❤
@JamilaMarshall-jd6jr
Ай бұрын
I'm literally fell in love with his attitude and could give a s*** less about his looks
@AnakinGozie77
Ай бұрын
@@JamilaMarshall-jd6jrhis charisma is off the roofs
@billiebogard9293
16 күн бұрын
@@JamilaMarshall-jd6jrhe was such an unattractive goofball in Pride Prejudice and Zombies (where I first saw him) but now, oh my Jesus he's ridiculously sexy....by facial expression alone he got me.
Daemon proved to be the most royal blood with honor he would never lose for anything
His sons become kings
@TheV8Pumpkin
Ай бұрын
King Aegon III and Viserys II the badass hand
@liamwright2510
28 күн бұрын
@@TheV8PumpkinAegon III suffered from terrible depression during his reign. He lost too many people 😢
Straight up, that is how he is🗿🤌
Otto always hated Daemon bc he knew he couldn’t be manipulated
Rhaenyra’s face kills me 😭😂
Daemon and aemond are definitely my favorites
They shoulda let Daemon tear into that man in Season 1. Id pay good money to see that just once before I d!e 🤣😂
Killing Otto Hightower Would Have Saved Westeros If Daemon had been allowed to kill him while Viserys still lived, it's unlikely that war would've happened. Viserys would not have allowed war to break out, especially with his brother being on the bad side.
@AnakinGozie77
Ай бұрын
Hightowers would rebel but I don't think it would hv been too massive of a war as Dance of the Dragons
Team black ⚫️ 🖤
1st comment also Love this show and your channel
Never Thought I Wanted To Hear The Doctor Swear With Such Vehemence.
Отто буквально предложил им быть униженными перед его королём, когда Деймон и Рейнира те, кто должны были править🤡. Он серьезно думал, что они на это согласятся?💀
Dreams didn't made us kings dragons did
If Daemon killed Otto they wouldn’t have got Rhys Ifans to play him
@ChrisSmithBass
Ай бұрын
Yep!
@keltongonzales8514
26 күн бұрын
This is more relevant today than ever after his recent masterpiece of acting roasting Aegon
I do wish they had played there cards better, if Daemon killed him there wouldn’t be a war. But what makes little sense is why they didn’t have spies in kings landing the way Otto kept an eye on them. Like him having her followed to the brothels. A major thing that would have changed the tides would have been in the books and in upcoming S2 (spoiler) instead of breaking in and k*lling Aegons son, would have been to kidnap both boys. Trading them for taking her crown, and death of her Son. By using them as ransom, to get peacefully she would pardon the usurper for her rightful place, bending the knee, and handing over Aemond. (Maybe make him take the black but ya know he falls 😉) She would be seen as merciful and Aemond would be held to justice. (And the greens would lose respect, and Vhagar) 😊
@alexpiperhalliwell
Ай бұрын
They had spies and supporters but most of them were killed by greens. Also, the killing of Lucerys a messenger and kin is despicable crime. By just kidnapping Aegon's sons they would show weakness and unwillingness to punish thats the opposite of what Daemon wanted. Still the story is like it is coz it was supposed to reference Empress Matilda and her fight for the throne. We can speculate but still it wasnt meant to have a happy ending.
@athiyant2437
Ай бұрын
So u'r a script writer
@jordanxnoel
Ай бұрын
@@alexpiperhalliwell I fully understand but, it was just my opinion, on a better thought on Daemon just killing Otto. Also kidnapping holding at Dragstone I don’t think in any way is weaker, it’s more terrifying. Since both Sons would be in their hands, and anything could happen to them. But in the book the killing of the child made a lot more people turn against her, since the child was completely innocent. Versus kidnapping them to have them hand over the crown and Aemond. The part of Aemond going to the wall was a joke, the only way to get justice would be for his head, and only then would Vhagar no longer tied to him.
@siran424
22 күн бұрын
@@jordanxnoel Yeah.. Good luck trading those 2 little kids for Aemond. Even if Aegon were to agree, Aemond himself wouldn't. And there is not a person on westeros who can force Aemond to surrender and wait for his death. Aemond would just take Vhaghar roast Kings Landing and fly away.
@jordanxnoel
22 күн бұрын
@@siran424 you forget his obvious love of Heleana. You could be right but again the kingdom then suddenly all comes together. Not even Vghar alone could withstand, every dragon at once, every army against him. With both of Aegons heirs, the regret of Lucerys hanging over the greens, and an offer for peace with safe return…Aemond plays at his hard exterior, it’s been said and shown many times. He’s not a “mad” Targaryen, he gets a look from his mom and freezes. So I think you over estimate him. Also if you mean your mistaking kings landing for Driftmark or Dragonstone… probably both kids would be held separately. Also dragonstone is named such because it is basically a fortress not even dragons can take down. Which again even the largest dragon, suddenly surrounded by the fleets, and 7+ dragons, even Dreamfyre and Sunfyre if Aemond went rogue in the way you’re saying. The tragedy of the loss shows they wouldn’t probably continue the war when both children are hidden away, and in an instant be gone. Revenge wouldn’t matter because the dance would just go faster if so.
TEAM BLACK 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
@pomegranteappleson1628
Ай бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Can't wait to see Daemon handle Otto.
I just can't get the picture of Otto kicking field goals while smoking cigarettes out of my head lol
Viserys was an idiot. So many death could’ve been avoided if he didn’t do dumb things. He trusted anyone but his brother and put his daughter life on the line so often. Low-key a terrible King.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@pomegranteappleson1628
Ай бұрын
True
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Terrible King and father , horrible brother and husband*
@bluemonger
Ай бұрын
Can’t be more disagree with you. He was a dreamer and a good man. In a place where you can’t just be that. He searched for compromise and to keep the realm together… big mistake to let daemon far from him but daemon didn’t Make it harder to banish him. « The heir for a day » stealing a dragon egg… toying with his brother’s heir and daugther… During his reign there is no huge battle, no war (other that the one in the Step stones)… he is, by all regard a decent king. That’s all
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@bluemonger he destroyed House Targaryen and Westeros with his dumb ideas and wishes . He should have kept Daemon as his heir or named Aegon as heir the moment he was born or just simply never marry again . And the fact that he even saw Aegon becoming King 30 years before it even happened just makes him more of an idi*t
@AnakinGozie77
Ай бұрын
But a good man , ironic @@nicksmithnutmilk
It’s wild that the actor who played Otto was also the kicker in The Replacements 🤷🏻♂️😂
Otto feared Daemon would become a second Maegor the Cruel if he ever ascended to the Iron Throne, sharing his fears with his brother, the Lord of the Hightower.
@alexpiperhalliwell
Ай бұрын
Yet he usurped the throne with his grandkid not Daemon. Otto was power hungry and Daemon was a huge obstacle on his path.
@sethcarlson25
Ай бұрын
@@alexpiperhalliwellexactly
Daemon being in the team black 🖤 Will be the end of the Hightowers
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
No , House Hightower is still one of the richest House in Westeros during the main story
@liamwright2510
28 күн бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkyou don’t hear much about them though
@siran424
22 күн бұрын
@@liamwright2510 You will in the 6th book
@liamwright2510
22 күн бұрын
@@siran424 they’re obviously nowhere near as powerful as they were during the show though .
@siran424
17 күн бұрын
@@liamwright2510 They are in fact more powerful than before. They became far wealthier immediately after the dance of the dragons due to the Rogares of Lys. They now just aren't partaking in active politics, but are exercising their soft power to the fullest. But even that will end soon enough due to Euron Greyjoy and the Hightowers will show their cars in winds of winter...
If I would have been there to hear that I would have busted out laughing 🤣🤣😂😂 Cause he gave southern woman sass.
I Wish❤
I think Aegon would have Rhaenyra and Daemon's sons murdered if they had become his cup bearers.
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
No , definetely not . After Daemon died & Aegon killed Rhaenyra all of Daemon's kids ( except Vizzy ) were Aegon's captives and he never harmed them . Alicent and his small council said that it would be better if he ordered the kids' execution but he refused and said " I won't judge children becuse of their parents' crimes "
@Berserker--18
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkprobably he is better person than Alicent but show has tried to portray Alicent as victim while she was reason for extinction of her bloodline.
@ekaterina472
29 күн бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkaegon II definitely wanted to kill aegon III, why should he spared him at all? Because he was a useful hostage, because greens are losing the war, as the blacks coming near to KL. Aegon II even wanted to mutilate Aegon III, but was ultimately saved as he was poisoned!
10/10 for song choice
The Rogue prince👑
all greens were usurpers
Will be happy
😮😮😮desmon
Funny how one of Daemons sons becomes King eventually
Daemon yum!
Imagine had daemon been hand vs otto...
Otto didnt want them prollums in his life. After how Daemon dropped Vaemond Velaryon without hesitation, he knew he didnt want Daemon in his life like that
If Daemon was allowed to do what he wanted, the Hightowers would be gone.
Зелёные реально думали, что Деймон и Рэйнира согласятся отправить своих сыновей к алкашу узурпатору😂 алисента ни за что не оставит их в живых
I wish he did 😂 that would be a good battle
Daemon even excepted lord strong's bastard as his own son.
I kinda want a what if series where the dance never happens, daemon kills Otto for treason, Rhaenyra is the unchallenged queen, the dragons don’t go extinct or don’t go functionally extinct since some dragons survived like silverwing, sheepstealer, cannibal
Daemon knows to kill with strength Otto knows to kill with intelligence
And you can keep your tongue
Otto is tywin lanister of house of dragon.
Team❤ Red
Only a king with no claim to the throne would surrender dragonstone
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Rhaenyra did surrender to Aegon in the end.... kinda
@Jarlmatthew
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilk how so? Being killed isn’t surrendering
@AnakinGozie77
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilkshe didn't
In the book he does
Team 💚
@TheHellyeahmen
Ай бұрын
fake and gay
Daemon is a wolf and otto is a coyote
name series
😌Daemon could see bs a mile away and he should've been hand of the king as Otto manipulate his own daughter and King Viserys. I didn't forget when he ask King Viserys marry Rhaenyra to Aegon who was just baby in the scene. Already off! 😂 Like bro Aegon is two. And look Otto trying do shady with Aegon( 3rd)the young who also a baby toddler.
I like him saying usurper
Otto always felt Daemon was a killer not a thinker. It may have been true. Daemon never really denied himself anything he wanted. Viserys was a weak king who was manipulated by Otto by a skirt. The oldest trick in the book. If he had married her to Daemon before having kids himself and out her on the throne while he was alive, the war could have been avoided. Daemon would have a say but ahe would have made the decisions. The people would habe seen she was capable and a good ruler. But he was about passing his name on directly from him. He never should have married her best friend. He basically screwed his daughter over again and again putting her into an impossible situation of his own making. And he KNEW it. He was not a good king loke they said or his succession would have been clear.
Daemon never love otto since the beginning, Daemon already saw what otto what was trying to do and that why Daemon never like him. Daemon always knew otto wanted to put his blood on the throne.
Then none of this would have happened and Rhanaerya would fulfilled her fathers wish of being the rightful heir to the throne
Am i the only one who think that Eddard stark would have been the best king
He will in season 3 or at the end of season 2
if daemon exist during the time of GOT like Aerys Targaryen elder son he would smack every lord of westros except Starks and Dorn 😂😂
@siran424
22 күн бұрын
Bullshit. He can't do shit to Tywin, Robert, Stannis, Ned, Oberyn or Euron ..
Matt Smith is the real actor.....
After all , I'm pretty sure that Daemon and Velarion Family might be a traitors
Отто всегда проигрывал Дэймону
Ojalá que demon mate a otto😊😅
Otto is in the right
I hope in the show daemon kills otto since they dont want to follow the books lore either. In general i think this directior and team has done an absolutely terrible job at representing this time and era of the lore. It has always felt like a PG version of game of thrones not enoigh blood and gore when daemon killed the crab feeder it disnt show that either its just a really crap job done the reason i and everyone lieks it is because its a game of thrones prequel and sometimes you just gotta take what u can get or maybe some people dont mind the less gore and fighting but it makes me worried for this season 2 because theres supposed to be many brutal battles
@AnakinGozie77
Ай бұрын
Woah wait a minute, did we watch the same show, what about when Daemon rounded up the thieves in King's landing with his gold cloaks , that was bloody and gory
Viserys either shouldn't have had that second marriage with Alicent or should have made Daemon his hand since he did trust him even after the brotherly fights. Rhanera really got stripped of her right but Hightower politics.. maybe (just maybe) Viserys coulda done a bit more to ensure she gets the theone after hia death even after announcing that she's his heir. Considering the show, I'm with team blacks all day. Team green are c*nts.
Daemon could get the job done if Rhaenyra wasn't such an emo girl.
No point in watching this they gonna mess it up like they messed up GOT
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
They can't . The story is basically written in stone
Otto is not TYWIN 🗣️
@The-Allfather-Odin
Ай бұрын
Otto is the goat tho
Hate u damon, why to kill young baby🔪