Only the Pythons could make an absurdist parody of the rampant homophobia of the 60's and accidentally predict furries in the process.

@maxthepaladin2147

6 жыл бұрын

It's kinda disturbing, how an abstract satire became a geniue occurence. And it's not even the first time MP did this

@iamhungey12345

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention doxing Mr. A aka Arthur Jackson.

@poweroffriendship2.0

5 жыл бұрын

Well, that's the case. I just hinted that furries wear animal costumes. So I think the part where men wearing mice costumes seems too accurate for furries out there.

@rperlberg

5 жыл бұрын

Did they predict it, or inspire it?

@poweroffriendship2.0

5 жыл бұрын

@@rperlberg They predicted it. Furries are'nt around since the 70s (followed by Fritz The Cat).

Look at arson. How many of us can honestly say that at one or time or another, he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have.

@ryanwhitaker4444

7 жыл бұрын

Wanting to be mouse is harmless.

@markh.6687

3 ай бұрын

Saw that line in a Python book. Laughed heartily.

Wow. Monty Python predicted furries.

@guyperson484

9 жыл бұрын

It's not about furries, it's about homosexuality and the mice represent gay men.

@Tartigrado23

9 жыл бұрын

***** wat

@ivancanak4470

9 жыл бұрын

***** Maybe,but i don't think so.

@guyperson484

9 жыл бұрын

Ivan Canak No, it is. From wikipedia: "The deviant way of life explored in 'The Mouse Problem' is an obvious parody of the secretive lives and social condemnation of gay men in the 1960s, and the sketch itself mimics the film and interview techniques used in serious television documentary exposés on the subject. Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune notes its similarity to a real 1967 documentary, CBS Reports: The Homosexuals. Chapman himself, who wrote the sketch, was gay." Also, the sketch was released a few months after the Stonewall riots occured.

@ivancanak4470

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks.Did not know that.

How John Cleese could keep his face straight while saying those lines has my greatest respect.

@elijahFree2000

11 ай бұрын

One of his best talents is keeping absolutely serious in the most absurd situations.

@aquamarine99911

11 ай бұрын

@@elijahFree2000 Honestly, it's the funniest trick in the book. That's why a lot of SNL's best hosts over the years (e.g. Christopher Walken, Adam Driver) are serious actors, who can keep a straight face while spouting outrageous lines without winking to the audience. Alec Baldwin started off that way when he was a serious actor back in the 1980s - "Second prize: a set of steak knives" - but then decided he was more of a comic actor and I no longer find him as funny (especially his horrible Trump impersonation - there are so many better ones).

@edwardpaddock2528

8 ай бұрын

It is very funny, when you watch it. If you have written it yourself, and edited it several times, had production meetings about it, assembled/constructed the set, cast all the actors, fitted all the costumes, set up the lights, memorized the lines, rehearsed the scene several times, filmed the scene a few times, honestly, the jokes are just words at that point. It's much the same reason that actors in a horror movie are not actually afraid, and actors in romance are not actually in love. Yes, Mr. Cleese is an amazing talent, and I am a lifelong fan, keeping a straight face is, when you are in the scene, remarkably effortless.

@williamjackson5942

3 ай бұрын

@@aquamarine99911 The best Trump impression is the one by the horrible little "man" himself, though lately even he is not as amusing as senility overtakes him. SAD!

@treetopjones737

2 ай бұрын

Trumpites were very triggered by his hilarious Trump bits.

This was THE sketch that pushed me from 'I don't know if I get this python stuff' to a realization that I would need to see everything they'd ever made. So happy to have found it here...

I love Graham Chapman. "Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist rather than a conjurer..." "Oh."

@amandahugankiss4110

7 ай бұрын

He is so dejected!

Wow, no wonder Cleese was heading to the cheese shop. It all adds up, now!! He was wanting the hard stuff!

The love that dare not squeak its name...??

The comedic satire of the past is the genuine phenomena of today

@devonflyfisher

7 жыл бұрын

And the genuine phenomina of today will be the comedic satire of the future.........AKA You can`t trump a Referendum (or two).

@ShrimpGaslight

5 жыл бұрын

What was last generation’s satire is modern day reality Furries are proof

@Sammie1053

10 ай бұрын

To paraphrase a quote people use about The Simpsons, "these comedians didn't predict the future, we just haven't improved anything as a society for the past several decades"

"I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have." I have always loved that line!

@Cyndeeta

11 ай бұрын

That's my very favorite line!

Dressing up as a mouse for sexual gratification doesn't even seem odd in the 21st century.

@comicconcarne

7 жыл бұрын

What a time to be alive!

@gribwitch

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, a lot of odd behaviour is now considered normal, and that demonstrates how far morality has fallen. Who'd have thought back in 1970 when this series was made, that two men or two women could be "married", and that the public would ever accept that farce as normal ? But via leftist social engineering, they have.

@WoWOmegor

6 жыл бұрын

Graham Taylor please stop watching python because you clearly can't grasp their usage of parody

@WoWOmegor

6 жыл бұрын

Graham Taylor please stop watching python because you clearly can't grasp their usage of parody

@gribwitch

6 жыл бұрын

I understand parody alright, as this ( obviously ) was. However my point is that what they parodied then, is what is reality today. Can you therefore, grasp the meaning of.... irony ?

"You might have a run on the wheel, and then maybe check out one of the blue cheese films". comic genius.

"Well I'm an accountant, so I'm too boring to be of interest!" I loved that part!

I love John Cleese's reluctant character! Great acting.

@u.v.s.5583

11 ай бұрын

John Cheese.

Michael's 'what the hell?' faces when talking to the psychiatrist are brilliant :) 'How many of us can honestly say that at some point we haven't felt sexually attracted to mice? I know I have.'

@SpielkindFR

7 ай бұрын

Knowing about Chapman what we know today and what the sketch is about I doubt it was an accident that he played the role of the sympathetic phychiatrist/magician.

I don't understand why so many people here think this has to do with furries. It's very obviously about homosexuality, and substituting "wanting to be a mouse" was only done for comedic effect. And frankly, while others here laugh at the over-the-top performance of the other Pythons, I think this is in fact a terrific acting job by John Cleese here.

@TuyuqVampram

9 жыл бұрын

Well, it's obvious that attitudes towards homosexuality were the INTENDED target of satire, but you can't deny that there's a certain interesting parallel to be drawn here. People have a party and "putting on mice costumes" is certainly reminiscent of the common media portrayal of furries.

@gouskin

9 жыл бұрын

This skit was written before 1969. The furry fandom became popular in the 1980s. While there has been pre-furry fandom furry pornography since the mid 60s, I doubt that it would have been any sort of inspiration for using mice in place of homosexuality for satirical effect. I think this should clear things up.

@mr.fridayatholidays5642

6 жыл бұрын

Nonetheless, this can still be added into the furry fandom lol

@thomassommerfeld8494

10 ай бұрын

It could be drugs, homosexuality or furries .. and well.. many furries are homosexual . so..well. In the end it is just a joke that has become true kinda. And it is not the first time this happened to them ^^

@KneelB4Bacon

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. This skit is really talking about gay culture and using "mice" in place of gay people for comedic effect. It has nothing to do with furries, which weren't even a thing in 1969.

Today they would all be using an 'app' named Cheeslr and would send each other pictures of Tails and lumps of Cheddar.

this sketch is targeted at the documentaries made in the 1960s about contentious subjects. It is especially aimed at one which focused on the Gay scene after decrimilisation. the way the sketch is done is how the documentaries portrayed their subjects. some of the lines are even taken from the documentaries with Homosexual/Gay being substituted by Mouse. It is a really interesting parody and is funny because it highlights the idiocy of the original Programmes x

@dinsdalemontypiranha4349

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for adding all of this information.

As a furry i can confirm that at furry parties there is a clock and when it strikes twelve we run up it, when it strikes one we all run down again

@based_audits

10 ай бұрын

Lmfao

@adrianafamilymember6427

7 ай бұрын

Ahhh lord have mercy! Have mercy !?!

A bit of trivia - in the original transmission, when Arthur Jackson's name and address was revealed, a telephone number was also revealed (belonging to one David Frost). Frostie was not amused by the joke, hence the sudden cut in this subsequent transmission.

@maxstirner8717

8 жыл бұрын

Interesting,

@footofjuniper8212

10 ай бұрын

I always wondered why there was that abrupt cut-off. It happened a handful of times throughout the show.

@BossyGuyMike

9 ай бұрын

Would that be the same David Frost who was the producer of "How To Irritate People" starring John Cleese et al?

@douglassun8456

4 ай бұрын

@@BossyGuyMike And who employed Cleese and Chapman as writers/performers on At Last the 1948 Show. I have always been curious about their feelings toward Frost. They made fun of him a lot, but at the same time there seem to have been fairly close professional ties.

"It's not a question of wanting to be a mouse, it just sort of happens to you."

Remember this so well the first time round, it still cracks me up !

"Look at arson! I mean how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another, he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have!" :D

5:07 "I'd stuff sparrows down their throats until the beaks stuck out through the stomach walls" I can't stop laughing XD

I think I'll have to use the phrase "Thank you, Janet" more often in my daily life

Love these classics. "I know I have!"

I reckon that Dutch mouse parties take place in windmills in Amsterdam. There you put on a pair of clogs as well as the mouse skin and go Clip Clop Clippety Clop on the stairs.

Thanks to 5:30 it's been 20 years that I can't hear "hostile" without listening to that voice repeating the word.

Whaddya mean this is a parody?! I realized I wanted to be a mouse a long time ago...

Well, I've been to mouse parties and there is a great amount of peer pressure in to becoming a mouse. Generally the mice are people with relative family issues.

@westernbrumby

8 жыл бұрын

Are you my mummy?

@WalterReimer

8 жыл бұрын

Western Brumby You'd better not have a gas mask on!

Incredibly timely, perhaps they could not have known that such things would be taken quite seriously today.

The sketch was obviously a commentary about public attitudes towards homosexuality, and in no way could they have been aware of the furry fandom. But that doesn't mean that the points it makes could not just as well be applied to furries as well. It's a sketch that challenges the viewer to consider accepting something that may seem weird and unappealing to them, as long as it is shown to be truly harmless, and that it provides comfort, pleasure, and a chance for group identity to their practitioners.

@mentalrectangle

8 жыл бұрын

toonbat It is very interesting how this clever analogy for homosexuality that Monty Python cooked up ironically ended up being very similar to an actual literal subculture that emerged decades later.

@OurBenefactors

8 жыл бұрын

toonbat Furries: disgusting in the 70s, disgusting in the 2010s

@profrezer7164

8 жыл бұрын

+Rabbi Herschel Lieberman-Bergblattsteinowitz Homosexuality per se had little to do with the spread of HIV in the USA. Homosexual men, compared to heterosexual men, had sex with more partners and little was done in the way of prophylactics for STIs. It should be noted that worldwide, HIV is primarily spread via heterosexual sex.

@edwardheaney3641

8 жыл бұрын

Nah, it's a call to kill them. There's nothing you can do about it, so I'd kill them.

@profrezer7164

8 жыл бұрын

HUUUUUURRRR Then again, HIV has not really been much of a problem in the USA. On the other hand, HIV has been absolutely devastating in parts of Africa. For this we can honestly blame the catholic church for reprimanding the use of condoms/contraceptives (incidentally this also did not help with their overpopulation problem).

One of my favorite sketches ever! John Cleese as an awkward shy man is flipping brilliant. And I love the concept. Trying to breach the subject of perception of homosexuality by displaying something completely different, but that is just as baffling and repellent to the public in general at the time. The fact that they had no idea of what furries were back then is just a huge added bonus.

I’m glad he got that creepy “ceiling sheep” at the end. Taught him a lesson he won’t soon forget.

@MLaak86

11 ай бұрын

I think that was one of their recurring animal jokes, like exploding cats

@premanadi

11 ай бұрын

@@MLaak86 It's from the flying sheep sketch, which was part of the premier episode of the show. This sketch is from episode 2.

@MLaak86

11 ай бұрын

@@premanadi Could have sworn it got used a fair bit more for a while

@premanadi

11 ай бұрын

@@MLaak86 Yes, I think those sheep popped up in various episodes!

@douglassun8456

4 ай бұрын

@@premanadi The big problem with clipping these sketches and viewing them in isolation is that you lose the context of little details like that. I've seen KZread comments from people who seem to be coming to Python for the first time complaining about the aimlessness and lack of structure in the sketches, and they don't remember how the links and running jokes held everything together.

Yesterday's absurdism is today's realism. Marvelous!

@rosaiglarsh9987

7 жыл бұрын

On the edge of horrifying.

@Leto_0

11 ай бұрын

You had over 7 minutes to figure it out but the plot still went over your heads

@Leto_0

11 ай бұрын

​@@rosaiglarsh9987mouthbreather

@rosaiglarsh9987

11 ай бұрын

@@Leto_0 Huh?

One of my favorite Python sketches

Damn Harold teaching others to fly

Chapman is so cute doing the "eek!"

John Cleese is simply brilliant.

@u.v.s.5583

11 ай бұрын

Cheese. John Cheese.

This show was so fucking ahead of it’s time. And it aged like the finest of wines

"And then the farmer's wife" Lol, Three Blind Mice.

That was some of the best they did right there it was perfect everything worked just right

talented actors. all of em especially cleese and palin. Flyins circus is the best thing ever made on tv. Best humor ever tasted. Too bad 4th season couldnt make it.

Is that Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson?

@chizhang2765

5 жыл бұрын

Now he's Arthur "No Sheds" Jackson.

I was going to say "Monty Python predicted Furries" but then I saw the comments.

@robertsides3626

8 жыл бұрын

I was going to say "Monty Python predicted Furries, but then I saw the comments." But then I saw that comment.

@rodeocyclone

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Sides And then that one.

Cheddar or Gouda, if you're on the harder stuff!

I think my favorite line is "blue cheese films".

Using Rachmaninoff's 1st Symphony in a comedy sketch... those were the days!

I'm female and I like Monty Python.

What the... hang on... wait what?? Where did the sheep come from?!?!

@g.55centaurosimp18

6 жыл бұрын

Edward Sim it's harold the flying sheep :V

Thanks for reminding people of that. The social setting at the time these were made is so important to remember. Too often, people (particularly Americans) think Python was just indulging in meaningless silliness, when a lot of it was social commentary through humor.

Hahaha Napoleon eating a giant cheese of slice didn't surprise me at all lol

Back in the last century , when Monty Python was in it's first presentation on PBS ... i once saw a commercial on Late Night tv from Kraft Cheese that directly played on "_When You Have Your Mouse Party_", etc. and i Never Saw It Again !! Tell me i'm not dreaming 😵‍💫

This heavily parodies documentaries of the time about homosexuality, especially a particular 60 minutes episode. And it was written by a gay man. Furries came later. Although, I don't really get why people hate furries so much. No one's actually having sex with animals here It's just a thing that makes certain people feel comfortable, like how some people just feel better in the clothes of the opposite sex. And furry fandom is relatively harmless, as it's not usually a sexual fetish.

@hox9941

10 ай бұрын

Although, who can't say they thought about such acts as mingling with an animal atleast once in their life, I know I have

This is some legit cutting-edge social commentary though.

IN an age before Furries became a thang, a buncha british men held nothing back for the sweet good love of gouda. ^,;,^

This appears to be some of the first Python that came over to the US which had canned laughter added here for the US audience.

@simontay4851

7 ай бұрын

It wasn't canned laughter. The studio based sketches were filmed in front of a live studio audience.

How did John Cleese not laugh during his interview? I woulda died!

The Twit Race is one of my favorite all time skits. Bow your head for the rabbits.

Fist time I watched this (a few years agot) I didn't realise it was a satire of Homosexuality. But when I watched it again, it really came through.

5:31 “there’s nothing you can do about so uh I’d kill them.” Underrated line

I love the satire!

Funny, John Cleese's real name is John Cheese.

Graham Chapman the man who wrote it and played the shrink, came out in the 70's, the only known homosexual in Monty Python. In real life the preacher would most certainly not air the view that gay love was ok if he wanted to keep his job. And just as not all furies want to be mice/foxes etc some men just like to dress up as women on occasion and don't all want to be women or date other men.

@stephenwells6434

10 жыл бұрын

Well, he was an Anglican preacher. The Church of England doesn't have any official policy on gays, so it's really up to each individual priest to make the call.

"Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist as opposed to a conjurer..." "...Oh."

Well, we live in times when a fiction comes true.

Lest one forget, add Arthur Ewing mallet bashing his musical mice to perform that swinging disco ditty, 'The Bells of St. Mary's'....one last time....

Of course! Good insight there!

He finally got them to fly.

The thinking for this episode was voice cracks sounds like mice, and they made a whole sketch out of it. XD

Thanks, Adum

Only some of them do. The majority of them do not.

@neoprankster The sketch is a parody of Panorama's usual format. A lot of the MP sketches are absurdist parodies of well-known TV programmes of the time, like the BBC2 discussion show "Late Night Line Up"

I know, right? Utterly brilliant.

my fav sketch:D

"They can't help it can they? Well there's nothing you can do about it so..uh...I'd kill em!"

if this isn't proof that Grahm Chapman was a time traveler, I don't know what is.

@Daviticus042: This was TOTALLY not about furries. It was about gay men. The world has just changed so much since then you can't even perceive it.

44 years later…. Squeak

No, i never said that. He said that furries ought to be stoned. I countered by saying that people had been treated with similar abuse because they committed a serious offense, or, in the worst cases, because of the color of their skin. I was trying to show that being a furry was NOT a valid reason to be stoned, and was NOT trying to imply they were an ethnicity.

I'm ashamed to admit that I have sometimes thought of becoming a mouse....

So this is where it all began... Nice

Just an old wives tale that only men like Monty Python.

Fuck it I'd join 'em, life's too short to be hating people.

@Robstar100

7 жыл бұрын

And yeah I'm already a furry...awoo

@FatherWindsorMcShane There's also the question of how long that laughter stays canned. In short, skits being laughed at when many of the people recorded laughing are long dead. Which is a grim prospect in itself when you understand the principle of canned laughter.

LOL, Monthy Python's humor is so random, it's still relevant today. Bear in mind, the date of this sketch is 10 full years before the word "furry" was even invented!

@herusolares5320

7 жыл бұрын

The concept certainly isn't new to the world, since furry art predates human art. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-man

@herusolares5320

7 жыл бұрын

+Killian Deathjoy When did I mention animals, let alone their potential to create art? if you refer to the lascaux cavepaintings, they are about 2000 years younger. What differs this artefact from Egyptian gods is that it represents a humanoid, not a god in itself.

@herusolares5320

7 жыл бұрын

***** An argument implies a conversation between two people. All I see is a furfag talking to a brick wall.

@herusolares5320

7 жыл бұрын

***** What is there to win? You will never find love or caring in the world, let alone a single compliment.

@ryansample6016

7 жыл бұрын

Zootopia called. It said your children are furries.

How clever to get a comedy sketch on TV in the early 70s that references transvestism, homosexuality, masturbation and drug addiction. All under the guise of being a silly sketch about men dressing up as mice.

Classic. Scary similar to wots going on today but funny! 👍😄

lol its a subtle joke abt soft and hard cheese. i love monty python!

Saw this first time round……. I wonder what the Pythons would be satirising now.

Lo and wonder for the prophecy has been fortold

Monty Python like Doctor Who, a vessel for creativity. We were proud of our angular BBC then. Bring it back?

At 4:50, hahahahahahah I love how they stay completely stoic!

I just discovered what "furries" are... and this sketch isn't about them.

Who was the better straight man, (no pun intended,) Chapman or Cleese? Both are just epic in this one!

“veni vidi vici… squeak!”

Strange how a comedy sketch from many years ago now becomes the truth in 2023. Except the Mouse has been replaced by the Cat 🤔🤔🤔😹😹😹

Speaking neutrally, between furries and haters, some of the comments are astoundingly stupid. The rhetoric in some of the comments is honestly worrying. I quote: "You deserve to be stoned." Jesus H Christ!

Well, it could've been, as comedians usually choose words and actions wisely and are usually clever. Anyways, it's quite funny XD Gotta love Monty Python!

Wrong, I was wrong. I can clearly see at 6:13 that he is indeed a mouse. You can tell on his face.