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Monsta vs. Anarchy | ASA/USA Exit Velo Testing
Today we've got a couple Monsta M2 bats (Torch & Sinister) and a couple different Anarchy ASA bats (a broken in X-Core and a 1-piece Loco) to see which brand makes the hotter ASA/USA slowpitch softball bat!
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Even since I picked up a Monsta, I've never gone back. Love the 2 piece torch. Then I got the Sinister. Life has never been the same since.... buy any Monsta you want you won't regret it
@xCAPTNxBACONx
2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up the 2022 black sheep woody. Hope it's good.
The torch got all the attention once it came out but deserved it tho. The resale on some of the older favorites is insane!
I'm not going lie, I love your asa/usa videos. All day boss 🙌 😎
Another big benefit with the Anarchys is the durability last way longer then the monstas. Trust me I've owned a couple monstas and they never lasted a season. I'm still swinging my OG diablo since day 1. 4000+ swings on it and still going strong. I live in Northern Minnesota so we get really cold weather here too. Lol
@BassBully
Жыл бұрын
Never lasted a season?? How many teams you letting swing them? 😂
@Sox348
Күн бұрын
I've had 2 monstas with 5,000 plus hits...
This bat takes 2000 swings to break in. Laughs in mid 2000s eastons. Once my scn5 hit the 3000 hit mark, using thunder heats and blue dots, it opened up like a fire stick.
Picked up my first Monsta this past year, and I gotta say I’ll never go back as long as I can find M2’s. I have a torch, Sinny and Banger (torch repaint) and I’m gonna try to make them last as long as I can 😂 only been playing about 4 years now, and used to get whatever cheap Miken/Worth I could find. But ever since finding Monsta, it’s like nothing comes close to it. Love the vids!
I dont even play usa ball and here i am watching ur vid keep killin the ball great reviews as always
I’d like to see to try and swing the new Demon or the OG Demon from Anarchy. Apparently it’s their hottest bat
Anarchy Loco LC and Anarchy Nimmo Xcore 2022….. these bats are hot!!! and feel a more stable relaxed swing
Do you have hitting tip videos? I am a lifelong baseball player but struggle hitting a slowpitch far and hard.
Get a proven anarchy in your hands like an OG rebby, ambassador, og diablo, firestick, etc
I haven’t seen an anarchy loco on field review. Hope it warms up soon to see more reviews! I have had an anarchy amped for two years and half the team uses it and still isn’t broken in. I average one to two homers a game, so it works for me. Not the best sweet spot (not broken in, so could change?)but it still has juice. They are always on sale which is nice.
It’s crazy the anarchy low compression bats get no love. I friggin love the loco! I’ve been told the LS Asa bats can handle the harder ball too. Im gonna do a longevity test with my TPZ to put that to the test. Oh and one more thing… could you try swinging a little harder next time? 😂
@drewboven3695
2 жыл бұрын
Be careful my TPZ had a sand rattle after literally 5 swings of asa .52/300 balls. Still waiting on it to come back from getting fixed
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
Just broke a TPZ with 52's :(
@BatFlipBP
2 жыл бұрын
@@slowpitchbros oh dang! that kinda makes me want to hit the hard stuff even more now... FOR SCIENCE!
That new camera angle on your swings was cool, felt like MLB the Show
I just got the new 2022 krecher. Absolute amazing sound feel and pop. I don't have exit velo but I have the candy red sinister. I think you will be very happy with the new krecher Will.
The old monstas took a few hundred to break in but then they made the torch and it was hot out of the wrapper. 2016 monsta bombardier took a while to break in and heat up but it set balls on fire at the 1000 hits and was straight piss missiles all the way to 3000 hits
Definitely want to see a review on the new USSSA demarini Fu Dawg.
Great video as ever Will! I know that exit velo is the only objective way to measure the ‘hotness’ of bats, but in your experience, do you normally see a direct correlation with exit velo and on field performance? As you will be aware, most home runs shots are normally 10-20 mph slower than line drive in terms of exit velo. We obviously play softball on diamonds and not in batting cages with speed guns. I’m just curious as to whether when you’re smashing the ball over the fence with a Monsta, Anarchy or Worth etc, does it matter what the exit velo is if it’s getting the job done? Finally, from a personal perspective, I swing quite fast and couldn’t get on with the Monstas as I had to slow my swing down (which I didn’t like doing) to make consistent contact/avoid knuckles off the soft barrel. But when you hit that inner barrel 😳
Good swing, Will! Really fast hands.
Love the videos! I'm new to slow pitch. I have a mizuno crush. I still have a hard time understanding the ball core and compression numbers. I'd love to see a video explaining the difference between usssa and asa balls and thier cores. I dont want to hit the wrong balls and bust my bat!
@batbossbp8091
2 жыл бұрын
If it’s an asa mizuno only 52 300 but if usssa just about any ball but start with 52 300 breaking in any bat
Bummed about ditching the M2, my Fallout is insane.
Great review, you guys never seem to fail at getting the real info out there. My only real question tho, if m2 is the best, why would they discontinue? I mean, if you got a product that works, and is always top shelf, why stop?
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
that's the question. I'm honestly not sure
@drazer55
6 ай бұрын
So they released the M5 tech which is supposed to be the same but instead of being painted it wrapped. It’s supposed to help with durability.
I wanna see an update with the Ryan Dacko DNA with more swings on it now
I would love for y'all to swing a OG Rebby just once.
Come back to this page. Some guys would really love the advice.
Surprised that sticker is still on the end cap of that anarchy they usually fall off around 400+ swings lol. But awsome video nice to see comparison. You should do a 44/375 video those are what we hit out here haven't seen any reviews for those what bats to hit them with
@mocmkc
2 жыл бұрын
Lol great observation “1100 swings” probably very soft swings
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
Quote from the guy who sent it to me: “the torch was my personal bat that I broke in hitting 80-85mph (300ish swings) and the rebby was broke in by someone else who hits over 100mph with 44s (1100+ swings)”
Yo great review once again
Monsta discontinuing the m2 tech just makes no sense, best asa tech made and I can’t see any bat topping it for a very long time
So i heard from a friend that they're doing research on the bbs test so maybe an amendment is coming out soon. I did NOT know that monsta was retiring the m2 version of their design. That's very interesting. This possible amendment might affect Monsta bats with m2 style inner barrels
I have seen some vids where the guy is hitting it in the mid 70s. But he was still bombing it. He just knew how to cut the ball.
If there was a quicker way to break these in....🤔
Would like to see the velo of the Loco at 200 swings when comparing to the Sinister that had 200 swings
I was hoping you could help me out. I'm playing a league this year that is asa/usa and they only use .44/375 balls. Every asa/usa bat I look at says only .52 balls. What is my options? Thanks for any help.
@ikashibimauler
2 жыл бұрын
Anarchy is the only ASA bat that are recommended by the manufacturer to hit the harder balls. Just make sure you get one that has their X core construction.
When you getting your hands on the Utrip monsta?
Wow very surprising. Do you have plans on testing the LS 4TF ASA bat? Seems to be getting a lot of hype.
What weights were you swinging on the anarchy’s? I mean 25 to a 26, ur gonna lose a little bat speed if that’s the case
Any chance for a review of the asa Louisville 4 The Fallen?
My 2016 Bombardier is still the hottest bat I've ever touched, picked up a new Black Sheep since the M2's are going away, just so I have another, also have a 2018 Sinister, a 2021 Anarchy Insurrection, a couple Mikens as well. Would be curious to have you guys test out my Bombardier if I ever end up in your neck of the woods!
Any way you could swing the Diablo SC? There’s barely any reviews and you’re the best I’d love your opinion
What kind of baseball tee do you guys use? It looks like it works really good!
Curious to know the compression on both bats. That’s the only fair comparison.
When's the long barrel watermelon reloaded review coming? I have one I could send out if needed!
Easton 2022 Black Magic review next ?
What’s the compression on all them?
I will say, that Loco looks sick at least
I have both, hands down Monsta.
Did you mention what weights the bats were? Is a 25oz torch going to out perform a 26oz anything? Based on bat speed?
Would really like for you guys to do a review on the USA/ASA Miken DC 41 thats sold on Amazon. I can't find any information about it anywhere.
@bassmanbenny
2 жыл бұрын
That would just be a repaint of the 14" miken primo 1oz endload
Just out of curiosity, do you guys use pine tar on your bats and if so, what brand?
Can we get your take on the new demarini asa bats? Juggy and mercy compare to these monstas.. thank you
Will Does the Loco feel as heavy midload like the Monsta 2016 Bombardier?
Hey brother I’m playing in a league that you can only use alloy single wall bats. Are there certain balls I should avoid because they’ll dent the alloy? Completely new to softball so just wasn’t sure if there are certain cores to watch out for.
Which bat would you recommend for a non testing Usssa league between the 2021 Easton autism 13” or 2022 Easton Kapow fire flex 12.75”??
How are these bats that are not supposed to exceed 98 mph hitting well over 100
You need to do the Louisville Slugger 4 the Fallen ASA. I have a 4 the Fallen and an Anaracy X core ASA bats and I think the Louisville is super hot. I don't have a Monsta but I would bet money that the Louisville is hotter.
@Dxnniis
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not hotter then a monsta. In my personal opinion the LS is good. But going to take a good amount of cuts to even come close to a monsta.
@jarkin924
2 жыл бұрын
I’d take that bet, bruh….
What is the hottest Asa cold weather bat?
Do the 2022 Easton kapow usssa bat
Nice swing
gotta but the torch mutated on the list. bat is dumb hot with only 100 hits
I know I’m late but I want to get a monsta, is the black sheep two piece M2 good or is it fools gold and I need to wait for the real fire.
@oneaudience2574
2 жыл бұрын
Any M2 is gonna be good, have seen guys hit them with blacksheep tho haven't used myself. Used fallouts & torch personally
No Name not a lot of data or reviews any reason?
Will, which tee do you have?
Will its not slowpich question but what kind of grip would u put on an wood axe bat?? lizard skins kinda work but still isnt rite
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
I believe axe sells their own grips that you can use
Can we get a demarini 2023 juggy review
You like the RAZZO?? I normally go hot dot or Dudley thunder, how they compare
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
They suck lol
Hey man where can I find that tee?
What would you consider .44 375 balls, low compression or...?
@TWRhinoman
2 жыл бұрын
hard ball. the .52 300/ .52 275 are the low compression balls. Monsta's site will tell you to only hit a 52 core compression ball
Let’s see Juno MR 1/2/3 🥰🔥🔥🔥
Where can I train or do BP in facility like this? Does anyone know what that program is called that he is looking at on the screen?
@dannyweghorn8769
2 жыл бұрын
the program is hittrax. Just gotta search up batting facilities in your area to try to find one
Are all the M2 25oz 2 peice bats Torch repaints? I bought the Tiyo but I am wondering why that is still going for MSRP and the Torch is selling for 3-400?
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
Because people are dumb lol - they’re all torchs
@keithruml1029
2 жыл бұрын
People get stuck on the paint schemes. Like He said. People are stupid. Right now, Madhatters are an example of extremely sought after bats, partially because for that exact bat getting hype from Will in his videos. Used Madhatters are in the 350-400 range while you can get a Unicorn Sports Magic Stick new in wrapper for $200-$225 right now... and they’re the same M2 Torch technology.
@smash6667
2 жыл бұрын
@@keithruml1029 magic stick from where at that price?
@johnnydarter
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a sucker born EVERY minute 😉
@keithruml1029
2 жыл бұрын
@@smash6667 I know it’s been a bit since you asked, but pretty much any b/s/t page on FB. Lots out there in that range
You bout shit your pants on that 100.6 rebellion swing
What’s the hottest bat to buy in the game right now out off all brands bro
@oneaudience2574
2 жыл бұрын
Monsta M2, unless you wanna put in 2000+ cuts on a Anarchy to possibly get similar results
Will where does the Anarchy Diablo fit in as a 1 piece?
@danduffmcg
2 жыл бұрын
The newer supercharged Diablo the same as the supercharged Rebellion, just a one piece with 1/2 ounce endload. The older not-supercharged version is also X Core but once finally broken in is considered much better than the new SC versions. With that said my supercharged Diablo has been hot out of the wrapper and still going strong.
@oneaudience2574
2 жыл бұрын
@@danduffmcg how would you say the 2 piece x core compares? I have a pit bull which is starting to get broken in & a niw wrath I'm debating what to do with it...
2023 Demarini mercy??? Or 2023 nuatalai
Monsta all the way love them M2 tech anarchy is alright I like the anarchy hyper tech utrip balls but other then that monsta all the way baby
Let’s see the new one piece suncoast.
Does anyone know a place in Canada that sells monsta bats?
@blacksheepsoftball
2 жыл бұрын
Canada doesn't really have much if any ASA in general because they play almost exclusively utrip
@itsrocketsauce7578
2 жыл бұрын
@@blacksheepsoftball well good thing Monsta is about to release UTrip bats this year(according to their website)
@itsrocketsauce7578
2 жыл бұрын
Facebook is the best place to buy them man. Tons of sellers and cheaper than eBay. Some people are willing to make trades
I try to find an anarchy every year but can never get the amount of hits needed for them. Then I go back to my torch. The average Rec guy cannot put 2000 cuts on a bat, to get it to gamer status
Bruh you whack the hell outta the ball. Teach me your ways
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
Hitting BP for a living definitely helps 😂
@luchianocorujo1319
2 жыл бұрын
@@kslamajama589 🤣good one!
No asa bat will ever top the 2017 purple worth est xxl. The worst kid on our team could put it over the fence with ease. Rip that bat 😢
My 2021 xcore bats don't put out amazing velo for me either. The 2020 or older ones get better velo for me, and I'm not sure why but they do. I got rid of all my 2021 Anarchy bats. Kept my older ones.
@alancobb387
2 жыл бұрын
Forgive if this sounds a bit cynical, but does it matter how fast the exit velo is if the ball is flying over the fence?
@slowpitchbros
2 жыл бұрын
for a lot of people, a little bit of exit velo is the difference between a homer and a warning-track flyout
That wasnt the best anarchy xcore bat to put against the torch. Get ur hands on an og rebellion or canawakening or even an outkast. U will get ur numbers.
@AndrewK80
2 жыл бұрын
Demon and Firestick are up there too. I've hit 104 with both.
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Only anarchy worth money is the no name
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