This game is a perfect example of how Slicer shapes games in cedh and completely changes the pace of games and I love it

@joshholmes1372

Жыл бұрын

Not sure I would throw it in cedh, but the rest of your comment stands lol.

@Minedeleis

Жыл бұрын

@@joshholmes1372 it's actually had good showings in tournaments, and whenever Slicer was played on a table, you could see how heavily he influenced the game, i find it a really interesting pick imo

@RegimentJoker

Жыл бұрын

Literally hate slicer.

@ianleffler6859

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t usually do so well against creature heavy decks (Winona, Kinnan, etc) the it also turns its caster into sort of lightning rod for player removal

I think that's the first Thoracle win I've seen on here in a year.

When Eliot said he needed 10 mana I though I was gonna see an omniscience into something silly.

Having an Orvar deck myself I loved recognizing those old hardly known spells that draw you a card on the next upkeep 😎

I made a slicer deck because I fuckin loved assault suit and it's literally that with double strike and haste as a commander (plus red is best color in mtg in my opinion) and I couldn't be happier. I love seeing him every time.

Elliot as Yugi "I play Pot of Greed to draw three cards! Then I play, Pot of Greed to draw another three cards! Then I play Magic Force, which allows me to play Pot of Greed to draw three cards!"

Spoilers below: Really thought Slicer was going to end the game there. Didn't expect Orvar to just pop off like that. Always love seeing all of you, new Spikes and old.

@WhoTFareyou2

Жыл бұрын

This is literally how every slicer game I've seen or played in goes lol. They put pressure on are generally a nuisance for a few turn rotations then lose lmao

One thing a lot of people miss about Slicer (including the players in this game) is that the back side is NOT a creature! In this case, Elliot could have drawn with Remora. It also means it's vulnerable to the commonly played counterspells, Deafening Silence, Esper Sentinel, etc. It's super easy to miss because it's effectively a creature in all the practical ways.

@TheSpikeFeeders

Жыл бұрын

Good catch!

Yes it's Thoracle, but at least done in a more unique way. Love seeing themed pods! Any other themes upcoming?

Woahhh finally starting to see some others play Demolition Field! I love that card. Also works to tutor a basic if you're missing colors.

See if there had been a mono-white list in the pod none of this would have happened.

@Neemzor

Жыл бұрын

Really disappointed Heliod, Sun Crowned or K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth wasn't featured

@CosmicGiggalo

Жыл бұрын

@@Neemzor Eh could be none of them have that particular deck or were interested in playing that kind of deck. Happens!

Great to see some cards from the 90s finding their ways in these decks. And yep, the oracle, should’ve seen that coming.

Thassa Oracle is yeah a bit meh but watching that coveted jewel combo was actually really cool

I have a budget version of this Orvar list and I love it so much! So glad to see it win!

Is that red leg next to the kraken in the booze cupboard? Red leg is great for cheap rum.

I live in Winnipeg! Have you guys ever considered doing a meet up?

Coveted Jewel was a cool way to enable the Thoracle!

Is coveted jewel even a valid target for glamerdye? There is no instance of a color word on the card

@TheSpikeFeeders

Жыл бұрын

Sure is! Glamerdye doesn't specify what type of spell it can target, but if it targets something without a colour word nothing will happen when it resolves.

I’m personally a fan of the covetous jewel lines, but my list isn’t quite cedh and I know im in the minority with that opinion. So good on you Eliot

Ragavan to get the lodestone golem is so funny

Dropping a chrome mox and a mana crypt both kaladesh is wild

As a not-at-all IT person, what did F6 mean around the 16:30 mark? (see never figured out how to link time stamps either😅😂)

@TheSpikeFeeders

Жыл бұрын

F6 is the hotkey for auto-yielding priority on Magic Online. It's like saying "I have no responses to anything".

@lewish1248

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! F6= I pass priority?

@TheSpikeFeeders

Жыл бұрын

Basically yeah. It's kinda like "I'm going to pass priority on everything you do", rather than checking in and passing each time action passes to you.

@lewish1248

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeeders I cannot wait to add this to my arsenal and sound smart! Thanks SF!😁

was praying Eliot would play thoracle and copy it more and more VS drawing . also fun

did the orvar player draw cards when torpor orb was out?

@ganondorc8546

Жыл бұрын

From what creature entering the battlefield?

Orvar Twiddles His Thumbs 😁😁

Left Caitlyn hanging on the end game handshake 😂

Good Lord Orvar is busted, I love it! 😅

Casting the slicer should have triggered the fish

@chrisbedrin3618

Жыл бұрын

Slicer is a creature spell. Fish only triggers on non-creatures.

@johnveit2139

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbedrin3618 the back half of slicer is not a creature. It becomes a creature on the battlefield. It is a vehicle.

@chrisbedrin3618

Жыл бұрын

@@johnveit2139 I hadn't read the set notes for the Transformers stuff because I have no real interest in the cards. I assumed that the ability was just modifying how the permanent entered the battlefield which is much more intuitive than I guess it actually works. Not sure why they opted to change how it enters the stack and not just how it enters the battlefield, seems unnecessarily convoluted. Sorry.

Nice

That was a great game! Always great to see Cayleigh as a guest.

Orvar is BAE!

So many coveted jewels 🤣 what beautiful way to win.

Pre-game comment: How can I choose someone to root for when all my favorite people are at the table?

haven't watched yet but no way orvar loses

Yay

I think slicer was being played wrong... you may give control of slicer to a target opponent. Which was played right but it doesnt return to person who played slicer at end of opponents' turn. The player who plays slicer no longer owns it, its owned by the opponent who was given it. So that opponent can choose to give it back, but they also can decide not to. Also after the orignal opponent that it was givens turn finished it then could attack the person playing it as thier commander and still does commander damage as well.

@SamuelKacerik

Жыл бұрын

So when I start the game owning Slicer, my opponent can own it and bring it back home and I have to buy a new one? Damn.

@jg0811

Жыл бұрын

It can get confusing but per rule 108.3. The owner of a card in the game is the player who started the game with it in their deck. That's not a characteristic that can change during the game.

@afifthofjackgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@jg0811 so its a case where reading the card doesnt explain the card lol. Thank you... i built it as as a commander and played it wrong then so this is good to know

@TheSpikeFeeders

Жыл бұрын

Control and ownership are not the same thing, so even when someone else has control of a card, when it dies it still goes back to the owners graveyard. :)

@mrSpencer1229

Ай бұрын

Slicer's ability says the other player gains control until end of turn. During the cleanup step, end of turn effects end, so slicer returns to his owners control. Then the next upkeep, the player who controls slicer (the owner) gets to chose who borrows him for the turn.​@@afifthofjackgaming

More than meets the eye lolololol. That's for sure! 🤮

Slicer is an awful deck, it's like a scourge on the format imo. Like I get cEDH is about being competitive and winning, but the deck benefits from intentionally ruining other players game experience, I tried the deck this week at my local weekly cEDH tournament and one round I killed a player before they had a turn, the second round I killed a player and they got just one turn... I won the event, but I didn't feel good about it or enjoy it so I immediately retired the deck.

There is no commander more boring to play against than slicer

@johnveit2139

Жыл бұрын

Lol