Наконец-то долгожданное сравнение двух конкурентов в одной ценовой категории

Would it be possible to insert the Sony SSCS5 or Dayton Audio B652-AIR into one of these comparisons? Thanks✌️

wharfedale 12.2 superior with beautiful bass

Monitor audio более резкие и детальнее.отличные колонки

The Bronze 100 isn't bad. It lacks some fullness and presence to it's midrange, due to a V-curve with an added dose of mid bass. It's not as tonaly balanced or texturaly natural as the 12.2 to me. The Audiolab 6000 fills in some of that for them, and I think it's a better match to them than the C388. While they have less metal tweeter ring than some, overall their drivers can have a slightly hard quality to me. For those who appreciate classical and other acoustic music with natural air, timbre and texture, they're not likely the best.

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Звучат обе нормально.у мониторов кажется сцена шире а верхов чуть меньше.в живую их бы сравнить.мне понравились обе.

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It's very difficult to beat the sound of a pair of Diamonds 12.2

Do sound demo of Elac Vela, Elac Navis, buchardt A5000 and Swan D300

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

Might as well go for the top dog; the M5A.

@williammiebach1798

2 жыл бұрын

Who's gonna buy $10,000+ worth of speakers for this test?

Confirmation bias is going on here. People are listening with their eyes, not their ears. On some songs, the two speakers sound nearly identical, and on some, the Bronze is slightly brighter and more open, and the 12.2 is slightly softer and more veiled. I don't hear the great difference in mids on most of the songs that some here allude to, although it is very evident on the xylophone type keyboard sounds on the song Higher Love, which is very forward and clear on the 12.2 and very distant and almost missing on the Bronze . However, without hearing both speakers play the whole song, we don't know if the difference is them or the arrangement and mix during different parts of the song played by each speaker. One thing I clearly hear on all the songs with an electric rhythm guitar part, is that there are intricate details of the picking of those guitar parts that are very clear and evident on the Bronze, but completely smeared together and glossed over by the 12.2. IMO, this amp imparts its own sound on every speaker, making them all sound too similar, and glossing over their differences. It's all a moot point to me, because I have no intention of buying any of the speakers or amps in these comparisons, as I'm quite satisfied with what I have. Finally, no one that can afford a $1700 amp is going to pair it with a $600 speaker

@quananginh9446

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, they sound very close in this comparison, which is to my surprise as the Bronze 100 always sounded brighter than the 12.2 in previous tests.

@ramin3080

2 жыл бұрын

My opinion is very close to yours, and my choice is because of the greater clarity and less distortion and interference of MA sounds.

Mixed feelings about this one. I appreciate the 12.2 for being smooth and full sounding, but to my taste, sometimes too smooth. Like everything is presented more beautiful than it is. The Monitor does have that 'bite' at times, sounding more open, but also at the cost of balance and midrange. Compliment for the Monitors that they never sound harsh or sibilant.

the diamond is smooth

I think the MA sound with 388 in this test is fantastic and is not comparable to Audiolab6000 . I hear more detail and space in the MA sound up to 12.2. I also think the sound is more natural while the 12.2 sound is a bit nasal, This can be heard well in the Fields track. In the end, I really liked the sound of 388.

@ec6843

Жыл бұрын

You can't tell the difference between the amps, so stop pretending.

@ramin3080

Жыл бұрын

@@ec6843 What are we talking about here? So you stop making these videos

в этом сравнении мне Monitor audio понравились

12.2 more natural, 100 a bit agressive

They both sound like phone speakers. But I’m also listen to this on my phone so.

Bronze 100 più dettagliato nei medio - alti Diamond 12.2 più dettagliato medio - basso

The Bronze 100 sounds thin, forward and 2 dimensional. The 12.2 on the other hand has warmth, sounds full and complete. That huge woofer on the Bronze is not really giving it much advantage either even when there is so much power on tap from the NAD 388. The Bronze sounds lifeless and limp, the 12.2 has texture and depth. Check out the sax on 'Is Leroy On It'. Its all because of that missing mids on the Bronze 100. Even on the last song, the guitar plucks has no body on the Bronze. The plucks on 12.2 sounds so natural. One would think a bright sounding speaker would sound more detailed but the 12.2 isnt missing any details next to the Bronze 100. If anything, the Bronze needs an amp that is very mid forward and less aggresive/revealing high end to even things out. The NAD is neutral, showing the true colours of the Bronze and there is no hiding behind a neutral amp. E, could you do the 12.2 vs 12.1 with this amp? I would like to see how the 12.1 reacts to powerful and well controlled amp.

@ctr289

2 жыл бұрын

And 12.2 sounds thin and bright compared to Diamond 225. In fact, 12.2 is very similar to MA Bronze, the same annoying lower treble.

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

@@ctr289 I own the 225 so I know. You can stop telling me about speakers that I currently own. I can tell you how the 225 and 12.2 sound in every aspect because Ive owned the 225s for nearly 4 years and the 12.2 close to a year. Your claims are nowhere near reality. Its getting boring. Tell me about the Elysian, especially about the new Elysian 1. I might listen to that. I might. Oh wait, that has an annoying treble too right?

@ctr289

2 жыл бұрын

@@-MarkWinston- kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ6YqauhYavFYpM.html Look at the graph, listen to the review. And shut up already! The 12 series is nowhere as good as the 200 series

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

@@ctr289 all you can do is bark because you clearly do not own any of these speakers or can afford one. You said the 12.2s are bright, that chart you showed me do not in any way indicated that thry are bright, you clearly have no idea how to interpret charts. Thats an in room measurement and if anything, its the dip in the middle that should be discussed. So stop barking all over, shut up and go buy the 200 series if you like it so much.

@ctr289

2 жыл бұрын

​@@-MarkWinston- Even the reviewer said it was bright. How can somebody not afford these speakers? They're the entry level. Anyone with half a job can afford them. Bringing that up makes me thing you must be really really poor.

Ι've heard both speakers at a hi fi store but on this video i heard different sounds.I think that using a class D amplifier is not the [most] appropriate way to evaluate speakers . Anyway, none gets my vote .

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

Totally nothing wrong with Class D.

@user-wp1ir3et2u

2 жыл бұрын

@@-MarkWinston-Mark , opinions vary but we all like the decent hi fi gear to enjoy our music on .

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-wp1ir3et2u This is not something subjective. Its a fact that there is nothing wrong with Class D amps. You might prefer a class A or AB, that is totally fine but saying that using a Class D to evaluate and compare 2 speakers is not appropriate is just not true.

Better Diamond, 80s audio. Bronze sounds like computer speakers.

Com o NAD C388 que tem assinatura mais neutra as 12.2 mais quentes combinam melhor. As Bronze 100 e 200 combinam melhores com os Rotel A11 Tribute, Denon PMA 1600NE e Marantz PM8006. A mesma coisa das Polk Reserve R200, R600 que são mais neutras e não combinam nada bem com integrado mais neutro como o NAD C388. Essas caixas mais neutras como as MA Bronze e Polk Reserve precisam de um integrado mais quente. Já com as Wharfedale Diamond é totalmente o inverso. O bom dessas novas MA Bronze é que os agudos nunca cansam. Pode aumentar o volume que ainda ficam bem musicais e naturais. Já as Diamond pode causar fadiga se o integrado tiver assinatura mais quente.

@williammiebach1798

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

@-MarkWinston-

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta be kidding

@renanmango1457

2 жыл бұрын

Obrigado pelo comentario. Estou ha um mes pesquisando entre a MA Bronze 100 e a KEF Q350. Apesar das pessoas dizerem coisas negativas das MAs, acreito que seja apenas necessidade de diferentes receivers. Eu possuo um Cambridge AXR100 e to pendendo muito pras MAs. Higo, eu falei muita bobagem? Sou leigo no assunto.

@williammiebach1798

2 жыл бұрын

@@renanmango1457 Would love to read and respond, but so far the Google has not given me the translate option.??? Lo siento, mi amigo. (most of my spanish) 🤗

@renanmango1457

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammiebach1798 I will write in english (that's is not so good, but's ok hahaha). I have a receiver Cambridge AXR100 and I really like it. It brings me a good quality sound for the price, but I still don't have a speakers. I am thiking to get MA Bronze 100, but I see a lot of people that don't like them. Are they really bad os does it depends on receiver? Maybe some speakers matches better with some receivers? Thank you! :)

klipsh rp 600 are better lol