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Moebius' Comics and How He Inspired Western Films - Comic Tropes (Episode 63)

This episode delves into the sci-fi work of Moebius, a pen name for French artist Jean Giraud. It explores his history and analyzes a short story of his, The Long Tomorrow, for his artistic techniques and its influence on other sci-fi.
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  • @brianoconnell6459
    @brianoconnell64594 жыл бұрын

    He was a sweet man. I met him at a signing at Forbidden Planet in NYC, brought a postcard because that was all I could afford, and he did a full sketch on the back.

  • @facespaz

    @facespaz

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome

  • @alisa_hanes

    @alisa_hanes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jealous 🦦

  • @harshvardhanshinde7657

    @harshvardhanshinde7657

    4 жыл бұрын

    wish I could met him

  • @ELPlop

    @ELPlop

    3 жыл бұрын

    What a down to earth artist !

  • @jensknudsen4222

    @jensknudsen4222

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg! Would you like to trade that postcard? I don't have money, but you can have my right arm.

  • @720zaka
    @720zaka6 жыл бұрын

    Moebius is also a major inspiration to Otomo, the artist behind Akira

  • @s3lfFish

    @s3lfFish

    6 жыл бұрын

    not sure about that Moebius went on to Japan and came back with tons of manga he got fascinated he promoted manga in france and then there are influences on both sides even before that with cubism and japonism but most of all, Miyazaki and Moebius seem to share a lot in common more than Otomo

  • @720zaka

    @720zaka

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea, well it's been quite documented, and OTmo has been outspoken about it. See: www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-04-09/akira-katsuhiro-otomo-remembers-french-artist-moebius Or: biblioklept.org/2015/03/05/flowers-a-short-moebius-inspired-comic-by-katsuhiro-otomo/ And if you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend Domu (the manga that precedes Akira), which is quite clear in its homage to Moebius, but also the beginning of Otomo developping his very own style and universe. As for Moebius and Manga he was surprisingly old school, conservative and very critical of the manga industry, which he did not consider for a long time as true artistry. Of course, I could relay some interviews, but do you understand French ? Anyway, it's easier to be sure about things when they are rooted in, you know, facts and examples. Cheers !

  • @FuchsiaShocked

    @FuchsiaShocked

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of Tetsuo when I looked at the arcturan.

  • @lunarmodule6419

    @lunarmodule6419

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zaka Toto Ha make sense!

  • @cha5

    @cha5

    5 жыл бұрын

    s3lfFish d

  • @chrismuskett6867
    @chrismuskett68674 жыл бұрын

    I once had the pleasure of meeting him at a con in London. He did a con sketch for a friend, and it was stunning watching him work. He drew hands so incredibly easily-just flicks of the pencil and the hand was done, fingers in proportion and in a complicated gesture. He also really liked Guinness

  • @brianjones8721

    @brianjones8721

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was an incredibly fast artist from what I hear, and prolific. I wish I could have seen him work in person. I went to a con panel with Geoff Darrow and he spoke at length of how in awe of Moebius he was, especially how quickly he worked and with such detail.

  • @-Zakhiel-

    @-Zakhiel-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brianjones8721 I wish Darrow and Moebius worked more together. I think they only collaborate on one project wish is impossible to find nowadays because it was a series of rare large prints ("La Cité de Feu").

  • @tomforsythe7024
    @tomforsythe70244 жыл бұрын

    Moebius' tales take place in a fantastic world where politicians have brains.

  • @GRedit1000

    @GRedit1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you… made my day!

  • @matonmongo

    @matonmongo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but it's our own fault... we elect 'em (aka, "Every country gets the gubmint it deserves").

  • @tomforsythe7024

    @tomforsythe7024

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@matonmongo No matter what system you use, politicians run everything.

  • @matonmongo

    @matonmongo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tomforsythe7024 'Politicians': aka, the folks who are actually willing to work to achieve their goals, instead of making excuses, blaming others, and simply complaining about it.

  • @tomforsythe7024

    @tomforsythe7024

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@matonmongo You win for most unrealistic premise in Sci Fi history, beating out the Matrix.

  • @SonicUnderground316
    @SonicUnderground3162 жыл бұрын

    Dollie's crazy outfit at 16:48 could absolutely be the inspiration behind Queen Amidala fashion. Both have a Japanese flair with literally out-of-this-world hairdo and accessories.

  • @LordZontar
    @LordZontar4 жыл бұрын

    On Moebius' style: when doing SF comics, Moebius used a fine-nib pen to get the same line weights throughout the composition, both for the essential base drawing and hatching. Although he did rely heavily on colour in a lot of his work, his use of hatching, crosshatching and stipple depended upon the situation. For panels depicting panoramic urban or technological scenes, for example, he'd simply use the basic line as he was already putting in tremendous detail. If his backgrounds were less crowded or in closeups, he'd use hatching and the other techniques to add depth, such as with the panel when Club retrieves the box from the locker. Other times, he'd add in a few hatch strokes or dots just to spice things up a bit in what otherwise would be fairly blank panels with stark linework, or in panels of medium depth, to make the art more visually interesting. As he further refined his style over the years and experimented, his linework became sharper and he leaned more and more on colour and tonal shading to create visual depth and his shading strokes became even more minimalist, as is evident in his later SF works such as The World Of Adena and The Incal, and works he executed when he started using the graphic tablet. Now, when doing his Blueberry Western comics (as Jean Gir), he drew with the brush to get starker contrasts, heavier lineweights to emphasize shading direction and foreground objects or figures, economically rendered thick and thin hatch strokes, and to lay down heavy blacks for value. This was also a standard style with a lot of the Western and adventure comics that were being published in France, Belgium, Italy and Spain that was common to those genres (e.g. Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese; although Pratt, I think, mixed it up with both the brush and the pen for his panels).

  • @whssy

    @whssy

    4 жыл бұрын

    His hatching was very reminiscent of Dorés engravings and is absolutely sublime. I knew a collector when I lived in France who had some of his original drawings and they were absolutely spectacular.

  • @system-error

    @system-error

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the Gir/Moebius distinction is fascinating. There's a cool non-Blueberry western he did as Gir called Mississippi River too, brush inked and much more traditional looking. It was actually published in Metal Hurlant (because Blueberry was on hiatus due to a royalties dispute with its publisher). But it was signed Gir since it was Gir style. The pen really transformed Gir into Moebius, that's where he got magical to me. I like Gir, but I LOVE Moebius. He was actually torn between the two identities, his traditional and avante-garde sensibilities separated out like a split personality. But Blueberry was actually his cash cow. In his own words, commercially Blueberry (ie Gir) was the sponsor of Moebius, the former selling 100k and the latter selling 10k.

  • @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293
    @ciganyweaverandherperiwink62934 жыл бұрын

    That "French Toast" you ate made me short-circuit from shock and confusion.

  • @fellowcitizen

    @fellowcitizen

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes -- invisible egg?? Maybe French Canadian toast...

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse4 жыл бұрын

    i am no artist.. but Moebius has captured my imagination since childhood. I read Heavy Metal mag for many years and always gravitated to Moebius. been collecting his prints and books for years. just very evocative.

  • @tsbirthdeath
    @tsbirthdeath6 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: the demons on the album cover of SLAYER "Hell Awaits" were completely stolen from Moebious artwork from an issue of Heavy Metal by the artist Albert Cuellar. He also ripped of Frank Frazetta and Bernie Wrightson on the cover artwork he did for the SLAYER album "Live Undead."

  • @highsierra
    @highsierra7 жыл бұрын

    You didn't mention anything about how Moebius' art influenced the movie , "The Fifth Element".

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was impossible to mention everything he's done. I just wanted to flavor the review with a few facts and a few opinions. If someone becomes interested, they'll get to discover more themselves.

  • @medicwheat69

    @medicwheat69

    6 жыл бұрын

    ComicTropes plus the creative team form goth element openly stated Moebius as an influence. So. It’s not as unknown.

  • @litjellyfish

    @litjellyfish

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mobley House Video Well.... That is not entirely true... most of the clothes was very much designed by Moebius in his Concepts for the film (as well as the Concepts made by the creator of Valérian te Laureline ) those concepts along with old Moebius design inspired or was used as reference when Gaulthier created the clothes. So it’s more that Gaulthier was inspired (or heavily copied) those design for the movie. Reason we hear about Gaulthier instead of the other guys is obvious. It’s better marketing to push a weird bit hip and world renown fashion designer instead of some weird (and perceived geeky) “unknown” comic (oh comic.. the thing only made for kids) creators.

  • @litjellyfish

    @litjellyfish

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was also influenced by concept bt valierian artist. www.pipelinecomics.com/valerian-and-laureline-v15-the-circles-of-power/ Which was originally hired as concept designer for 5th element. If he was inspired by Moebius or Moebius by him is hard to say. Still in the timeline a lot of science do design was done in Valérian before Moebius enter the more sci di field. (Actually more after the coloboration on Alien. Remember it was o banning who wrote the script for the long tomorrow.

  • @sylvain7888

    @sylvain7888

    5 жыл бұрын

    More than influenced, he was heavily involved in the design and pre-production of the movie.

  • @mikeehrmantraut4695
    @mikeehrmantraut46954 жыл бұрын

    One of the best decisions i've ever taken as a comic book fan is to subscribe to your channel man, you take comicbooks as a form of art not just as entertainment and i thank you for that.

  • @BigBennKlingon
    @BigBennKlingon5 жыл бұрын

    Highly detailed backgrounds is the most salient Moebius trope to me. His backgrounds were often just as detailed as the foreground. There's a "see something new every time" aspect to his work.

  • @TulilaSalome
    @TulilaSalome4 жыл бұрын

    1. Man speaks about one of the most important names in comics and the various ways he influenced pop culture. Perennial favourites like Alien, Star Wars and Blade Runner are discussed. 2. The audience: BUT TEH FRENSH TOOOAAASSST :D

  • @davidvincent380

    @davidvincent380

    4 жыл бұрын

    That baguette looked very industrial tho

  • @mslightbulb

    @mslightbulb

    4 жыл бұрын

    david vincent yes, there are industrial baguettes in France and Western Europe to, we eat them everyday and we do not stop calling them a baguette because of that.

  • @thierryregaud7333

    @thierryregaud7333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Waaahhaaahhaaa Salvador Dali would have been proud !

  • @mollytherealdeal
    @mollytherealdeal4 жыл бұрын

    I met Moebius when he attended my college's museum when it was displaying his work. He was an interesting guy.

  • @te9591

    @te9591

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's got to be amazing.

  • @glennsimmons5473
    @glennsimmons54734 жыл бұрын

    The “D” in Giraud and the “T” in Hurlant are SILENT!

  • @davidvincent380
    @davidvincent3804 жыл бұрын

    "The Incal" is one the first things to read from Moebius

  • @49558201

    @49558201

    3 жыл бұрын

    and the long tomorrow ......... enjoy........

  • @coffeeuwu7127

    @coffeeuwu7127

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same! I i read the Incal first, then the long tomorrow second. I absolutely loved both, then i eventually read everything else that moebius made. His work was def. an inspiration in my own artworks and he will forever be remembered.

  • @Tsotha

    @Tsotha

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coffeeuwu7127 Moebius' artwork in those 2 are basically how I imagine everything to look when I read anything remotely cyberpunky

  • @rippspeck
    @rippspeck5 жыл бұрын

    Knowing how serious the French take their foods, at least one of them got really sad when they saw that baguette.

  • @ProductionARF

    @ProductionARF

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah it was the most French food in the video...and it look like the real deal idk if it tasted as good as ours thought

  • @mystymysty3667

    @mystymysty3667

    4 жыл бұрын

    The bread is no problem, but most will eat it with creamy cheese like camembert, rustique, blue, etc... and a glass of red wine! 🍷🔪 It's like eating pasta with nothing, but freshly baked bread can be good on it's own.

  • @frankknudsen842

    @frankknudsen842

    4 жыл бұрын

    This host knows his business for the most part,but his annoyance is overwhelming.

  • @mecha-sheep7674

    @mecha-sheep7674

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup. And from here it went all the way to the deepest levels of hell, except the fries. Seriously, having to eat that could make him hate France and us French. If one day I have to visit my family in the US, I'm really afraid of what "french" food I may find there.

  • @kukipett

    @kukipett

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ProductionARF No certainly not a baguette but some sort of arcturian scum that looks like baguette but has the texture os some spongy fongus, the most horrible baguette i have ever seen!!

  • @camembertdalembert6323
    @camembertdalembert63235 жыл бұрын

    when I was a teenager during the 80's/90's, "L'incal" was a big thing amongst french teenagers.

  • @CosmicLantern
    @CosmicLantern7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Man, Moebius is my favourite artist of all time, and this was a great video. I have to say your channel is very underrated and super entertaining. Keep it up man

  • @lunarmodule6419
    @lunarmodule64196 жыл бұрын

    Quick update - I watched the He-Man Master of the univers documentary (netflix) yesterday and suprise suprise! ... Moebius did the early sketches of the main heros. Of course he redesigned them a bit and Mattel was not too happy LOL. This He-Man documentary is a must watch because we see the creative process behind the toy line, the TV show and the movie.

  • @rowanbadhwar877
    @rowanbadhwar8775 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this! Gotta love Moebius. His art is phenomenal. Feels like a portal into another reality.

  • @Girthon1
    @Girthon16 жыл бұрын

    Love Moebius. Love Comic Tropes. Keep 'em coming Chris.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg10754 жыл бұрын

    These videos are a treasure.

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes72975 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved how he made his nature scenes beautiful, peaceful and good, with simple lines and less details. Then he would make technology scenes chaotic, cluttered and evil, with many lines and details.

  • @JoeyTCartoonP
    @JoeyTCartoonP6 жыл бұрын

    5:15- Most importantly, he trusted his characters, props and settings form and structure to hold their own with limited linework. For me, that's amazing, since I always try to draw lines with varying width. So to see someone pull off simple lines for such dynamic work is pretty damn inspiring!

  • @henrymach
    @henrymach6 жыл бұрын

    Moebius didn't like to draw hair. I read that in an interview back when he drew a Silver Surfer comic for Marvel. You can notice that very few of his characters are seen without a hat. And many are bald

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    4 жыл бұрын

    He could really do some hats, though.

  • @animalpensant8191

    @animalpensant8191

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not so true, in Blueberry, every character has hair, especialy Bluebery himself who was very a very hairy guy...

  • @davidvincent380

    @davidvincent380

    4 жыл бұрын

    He didn't like to draw hair... or he was more into hats ?

  • @radoman1234

    @radoman1234

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, well, we here have expert :D Jan do not like to draw many things, but he draw it with ease and with superior quality.

  • @te9591

    @te9591

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's because was bald?

  • @danielmanning6312
    @danielmanning63124 жыл бұрын

    My bff is a comic expert, starwars megafan, blade runner fan, and a comic store mgr. He has no idea about this influence. You have gifted me an opportunity to surprise him, which is rare at this point in his trajectory. I am buying moebius for him and sharing this vid at him when he receives it.

  • @bingokitty5822

    @bingokitty5822

    4 жыл бұрын

    oh my sweet jerry cornelius! he is in for such a massive world of wonder I nearly envy him, the sheer joy I felt when I first discovered Moebius in 1977 Heavy Metal, Mind BLOWN!! Even now after all these decades, his art still blows my mind!

  • @Watdiggity
    @Watdiggity4 жыл бұрын

    You are amazing, I love your rundown. And insight.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus4 жыл бұрын

    Moebius, one of the my favorites. His rainbow palette is a classic, it's all over US comics and movies.

  • @nick1428
    @nick14285 жыл бұрын

    He is one of my most treasured inspirations and favorite artists, I miss him.

  • @metalhead805666
    @metalhead8056666 жыл бұрын

    My absolute favorite artist of all time. Amazing work

  • @MihaiSorohan
    @MihaiSorohan2 жыл бұрын

    The "escar-go away" is enough reason to give this video a thumbs up.

  • @walterendres4829
    @walterendres48297 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how many people already remarked on that, but "French Fries" are actually from Belgium!

  • @MrKylljoy

    @MrKylljoy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually not really, some historians said that it is from belgium, others from paris as " Pommes-Frites ", it depends, some said that it existed a long long time ago so no, fries aren't Belgian, at least there are no proof.

  • @NelsonStJames

    @NelsonStJames

    6 жыл бұрын

    My dear old uncle Herman says that French Fries should be German.

  • @s3lfFish

    @s3lfFish

    6 жыл бұрын

    well French fries are definitely not french... we call them belgium here, but ulltimately Potatoes comes from south america Though fried shaped cutted potatoes seems to have an unclear origin in the western world, wether in belgium (XVII century) or france (1789) its more than probable that native americans came up with it earlier... But they're definitely not seen as french food nor belgium as it seems you guys eat most of them.

  • @zorbeclegras5708

    @zorbeclegras5708

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is a thorny question. First, in France, the French fries terms do not exist, any more than Belgian fries: They are called simply french fries. For the historical part, I will base my memory on a reading that I made about it a few years ago (and I do not remember the reference). Basically, it was said that the first mentions written on fries come from Belgium, but a menu mentioning potatoes fried in goose fat about a decade after this Belgian writing was found in the region of Toulouse. The written records do not mention how long ago this practice existed in either of the two countries, it is for the moment impossible to decide this oh so thorny question! ;) Can be in a third country? ...: p

  • @zorbeclegras5708

    @zorbeclegras5708

    4 жыл бұрын

    Google translator made me a bad joke: I wanted to say: "They are called simply fries"

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi4 жыл бұрын

    "The fifth element" seems coming out of this "Long Tomorrow"

  • @kolerick

    @kolerick

    4 жыл бұрын

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A9rian_and_Laureline from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_M%C3%A9zi%C3%A8res is the inspiration for the 5th element design... but again, Valerian and Laurelin is the inspiration for tons of stuff (Star war being a massive recipient without Lucas acknowledging it)

  • @danilodibujo
    @danilodibujo4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I read The Long Tomorrow when I was 12 or so. I blowed my mind. Later I knew Moebius was Jean Giraud, the same artist that drew Blueberry, and I simplu couldn´t believe it!!! Great job, discovering unknown artist for the U.S. general public! There´s much more out there to see than superheroes!

  • @VorpalDerringer
    @VorpalDerringer7 жыл бұрын

    Another great episode! Very interesting to see these comics from lesser known markets.

  • @OleHeide
    @OleHeide7 жыл бұрын

    You should maybe have mentioned, that Jean Giraud / Moebius has two very different Styles. he also signes his Work differently: He allways signed lt. Blueberry with "Gir" and his SciFi/Fantasy Work with "Moebius". His Work as Moebius is much more minimalistic than his work as Gir

  • @remylounissart9688

    @remylounissart9688

    6 жыл бұрын

    His genious still living through our eyes on his creativity

  • @elonmeuss1857

    @elonmeuss1857

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually he nearly have 3, when he worked for editorial comics, kind of humoristic cartoons, he used his Gir name and drew a lot more simplistic, something between Sempé and Peanuts. Definitely a genius

  • @whssy

    @whssy

    4 жыл бұрын

    He sometimes signed as "M.", "Moeb", "Bius" and even under his own name.

  • @publiusventidiusbassus1232

    @publiusventidiusbassus1232

    3 жыл бұрын

    He also spelt the title of every Arzach comic differently. For example, he'd spell it Arzak, Arsach, Arsac, etc

  • @anneadler8944
    @anneadler89446 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I love Moebius. I recomend the French SciFi animated film "Les Maîtres du temps" (The Masters of time) for which Moebius did the design and co-wrote the script. Has a lot of the tropes you presented. Very trippy at parts and it scared the hell outa me as a child.

  • @whssy

    @whssy

    4 жыл бұрын

    I really didn't like it.

  • @richardwarner3705
    @richardwarner370522 күн бұрын

    I have a signed postcard sized, drawing by Moebius. He was at "Comic Kingdom" in San Diego, in the 80's. He would look at you, then draw what ever he decided from his observation. He just used a felt rip pen. It was quick & flawless.

  • @carloshuante8508
    @carloshuante85084 жыл бұрын

    Yup one of my greatest influences as well.. one story which jives with this vid is while I was working on Prometheus and meeting with Ridley the first time.. it was just the two of us meeting to discuss the engineers and ancestors of the Alien creature.. Ridley dropped “The long Tomorrow “ in front of me.. I had a big stupid smile on my face for two reasons. first I hadn’t seen it in such a long time and it brought back all kinds of happy feelings and Ridley was presenting it to my for influence for a certain sequence that was later cut from the film.. but I proposed we use that scene where Dolly transforms right on top of the guy..of course it would have been inverted for the Hollloway love scene ...anyway ...good stuff here..

  • @markwilliams2620

    @markwilliams2620

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for BR:2049.

  • @TheGodsrighthandman
    @TheGodsrighthandman6 жыл бұрын

    Moebius is my favourite graphic artist of all time. Philippe Druillet comes a good second . . .

  • @Astromerc
    @Astromerc6 жыл бұрын

    I guess these are the "Arcturians" that were referred to by the Marines, in the mess hall scene, in James Cameron's "Aliens". Corp Hicks laughs at the other Marine for supposedly banging a "male", and since they are shapeshifters, it becomes clear why he would say that, "it didn't matter because it was an "Arcturian"..,Anybody think I'm right? I'm right....

  • @lafortya

    @lafortya

    6 жыл бұрын

    That was Spunkmeyr picking on the guy, not Hicks. But yeah, I thought the same thing. "So THAT'S the arcturiens they were talking about."

  • @futurepig

    @futurepig

    5 жыл бұрын

    That was a nice Easter Egg

  • @thierryregaud7333
    @thierryregaud73333 жыл бұрын

    Hello ! Thx for the video capsule ! I first read The Long Tomorrow in Metal Hurlant at the age of 12 in 1976, yes, it wasn't censored for us kids at the time in France. I met him in 1986 in Paris were I asked him if I could work as one of his translators in a long conversation in a famous comic store over there (didn't work out but he gave me an enormous autographe taking all the 8 1/2 by 11 page. A few years later I called up his agent in Switzerland for the movie rights for The Long Tomorrow to make a student short but without success. A couple of years later The Fifth Element went on screen (around 1998-99). This being said, I have a few extra stories for your feed! In the 1980's movie Heavy Metal the cab driver and the evil ball (as in the 5th Element were already present in some of the O'Bannon & Moebius shorts), Dolly's hairdoo looks like princess Lea's, the first 3 drawings at the beginning of The Long Tomorrow and in some of the Incal's drawings are the same as the flying taxi scenes in The 5th Element and so on and so forth :) Thanks again for the trip down memory lane. As they say in Blade Runner : "Have a better one !"

  • @duantorruellas716
    @duantorruellas7164 жыл бұрын

    I love how this video turned the comment section into a great exchange on the different international recipes on French toast. I learned alot , thanks guys , and Bon appetit 👌

  • @calanives3270
    @calanives32707 жыл бұрын

    I wish that comics were respected as an art form in the U.S. Like it is in Europe and the rest of the world. They are an American invention that should be celebrated.

  • @calanives3270

    @calanives3270

    7 жыл бұрын

    I asked my nephew if he read comics and he said ,"no I read real books."

  • @mau_victorino

    @mau_victorino

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ken Ives oh, man! Kids are harsh! lol

  • @fyodorkaramazov2136

    @fyodorkaramazov2136

    7 жыл бұрын

    They're not respected in France. Not at all by the politics or the so-called intellectuals, even the nerds are 65% mangas 30% US comics, 5% others stuffs. Most people don't even know who Moebius or Mezières or Jodorowsky are, they think the 5th element came out the mind of Besson by accident... French comics used to be something really huge in sci-fi, but they're out-fashioned since decades. Simply because the governments never helped them. Literature is respected over everything in France, our elits thinks culture is all about books and words. This is why they don't want music, they want french songs, they don't want cinema, they want french dialogues on screen... Our French cultural policy is made this way, and as a result we just had to support more and more stupid songs and stupid comedies. But they hate comics, especially fiction because there's beautiful poetic pictures in it. It tarnish the beauty of the sacred French language... And with science-fiction, imagine... The heroes aren't even Frenchmen, what a nightmare !

  • @LambdaJM

    @LambdaJM

    7 жыл бұрын

    No sadly in Europe comics didn't get the attention they deserve; I always thought it is more respected in the US! hihi :-). But I think in both US and Europe comics are getting more attention

  • @LambdaJM

    @LambdaJM

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah pretty much the same here in Germany. Comics are not respected. But lately the comic marked is growing at least in Germany. But Manga is the most read by young people and I am wondering why?

  • @jeremiahcunningham4798
    @jeremiahcunningham47984 жыл бұрын

    When he said French Fries, I was like 'You Motherf-' then I realized he's being sardonic. Terrific video.

  • @matonmongo

    @matonmongo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aka, "Freedom Fries"!

  • @ParadoxapocalypSatan

    @ParadoxapocalypSatan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Invented in the Netherlands, perfected in Belgium

  • @matonmongo

    @matonmongo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ParadoxapocalypSatan Yep, actually that's true... and then later 'popularized' in the U.S. ("Over A Trillion Sold")!

  • @ShinyRedNothing
    @ShinyRedNothing2 жыл бұрын

    Dude, your channel is my current obsession. Love what you’re doing. Funny story I had to share with you: I’m much like you, a famously finicky eater, but when my wife and I were in Paris, I promised I would be adventurous. And I was, even eating a couple of things she wouldn’t. But escargot is snails, and I could not get past that. We took the leap to try it at the Louvre, and my wife dug right in. Loved it. Insisted it was like a delicious garlic and butter pork treat. And honestly, it was, and I liked it, but nope. My body wouldn’t have it. And that’s the story of the time I puked escargot around the corner from the Venus De’Milo and the Mona Lisa.

  • @megamancards
    @megamancards5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making these videos. Been sick this week and it's definitely helped me mentally to check out your videos.

  • @Rometiklan
    @Rometiklan7 жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome vid. One of your best ones so far. I want to track down some of Moebius' work. I love art that leave a indelible mark and motivate future generations. I love how your vids inspire me to look deeper into this hobby. Keep up the great work.

  • @johnthefool
    @johnthefool5 жыл бұрын

    Comic Tropes : hello, i'm french, i love Jean Giraud 's work an i think he is "the" master of "Bande dessinée" ;). I didn't know that he has influenced Gibson and Carpenter, thank you for this video.

  • @yugen3968
    @yugen39682 жыл бұрын

    I like Moebius as my wallpaper. My type of vibe. Not too distracting for a wallpaper but still filled with detail, so every now & then I catch a few seconds of looking around, thinking.

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil3 жыл бұрын

    That escargot moment was hilarious, and incredibly relatable.

  • @Temporalmixproductions
    @Temporalmixproductions5 жыл бұрын

    That wasn't french toast.

  • @deadowl7709

    @deadowl7709

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was exactly what I thought. That was some burnt bread with some dark oil on top. Maybe the person that made it knew of the French term “pain perdu," meaning “lost bread." That half education still troubles me. To make french toast, you first dip slices of bread in a mixture of beaten eggs, milk, cinnamon and vanilla. Then you fry the egg-coated bread in a pan until browned. The person who made this version of "french toast" must have started a house fire and somewhere in between the raging flames, decided to toss bread into the inferno. Meanwhile, a large oil tanker crashed ashore and provided the syrup? Catastrophe? You bet!! French toast? The fuck is wrong with you?!?

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    @@deadowl7709 Cinnamon ? Vanilla ? Still an americanized version. I can count on the fingers of a seal the recipes of french sweet cuisine that have cinnamon and vanilla (well, we use vanilla-sugar in some recipes to kil the egg flavour like in the "île flottante" and the only time I've used or seen used cinnamon is on Rice with Milk recipe "riz au lait"). It's sugar, egg and butter (real butter) and nothing else. Still, funny answer ! :)

  • @caligo7918

    @caligo7918

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ There is a version of that in germany without sugar. It's called "Arme Ritter" (poor knights) and it's basically old, dry bread soaked in milk and egg, fried in a pan with salted butter. And if you were really poor, you left the eggs out.

  • @richardcramer1604

    @richardcramer1604

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ , DEAD OWL's version is the same as how I've always made french toast, the cinnamon and vanilla are optional, we don't add the sugar with the egg/milk but it is served sometimes with a powdered sugar topping and always with plenty of syrup (usually maple syrup) available and yes I am an American.

  • @steve1978ger

    @steve1978ger

    4 жыл бұрын

    none of those foods are French by anything but name

  • @shannonolivas9524
    @shannonolivas95244 жыл бұрын

    To quote James Cameron's Aliens "It don't matter when it's Arcturian".

  • @tomforsythe7024

    @tomforsythe7024

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arcturian Lives Matter!

  • @shannonolivas9524

    @shannonolivas9524

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tomforsythe7024 not referring to shooting the Arcturian, at least... not with a gun (Lenny face). Rewatch Aliens when you've got a chance or are so inclined to hear how Cameron worked a reference to this story possibly/probably into the film.

  • @TheDeadbone1961
    @TheDeadbone19614 жыл бұрын

    Well done! Moebius is truly a wellspring of inspiration. I love the mix of artistic complexity and storyline simplicity in The Long Tomorrow. I recall seeing it for the first time in the "adult" basement section of a Sacramento, CA record/comic book store. If you ever get the chance to visit France or Belgium, be sure to check out the comic/graphic novel stores - truly an awesome experience.

  • @Stephen09479
    @Stephen094796 жыл бұрын

    Just gone and bought a copy of Heavy Metal from 1980 which was at the time The Airtight Garage was first printed (I think haha). Didn't know anything about Moebius so thanks for this video!

  • @FuchsiaShocked
    @FuchsiaShocked5 жыл бұрын

    Love how Chris is grossed out by escargot and then cleanses his palate with A HOT DOG, which probably contains a load more disgusting things than the snail does.

  • @te9591

    @te9591

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @SonicUnderground316

    @SonicUnderground316

    2 жыл бұрын

    True but he's use to the taste of hot dog. He seems to be grossed out not by the actual taste but by the idea of essentially eating bugs so he went for something more comforting to him.

  • @lorenaescalier3136
    @lorenaescalier31367 жыл бұрын

    I have just noticed that dave gibbons also took some inspiration for the distopian reality of Watchmen, specially the cloth looks very similar to the moebius style.

  • @whssy

    @whssy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good spot. There are a LOT of similarities.

  • @wetdroidedition2549
    @wetdroidedition25495 жыл бұрын

    Recently find your channel. Pure gold!

  • @guanzilla7898
    @guanzilla78985 жыл бұрын

    Just recently became a sub 4 days ago...brother let me thank you out right for all your hard work and amazing content. Jean Girard is my favorite artist of all time...this is gonna be a treat. cheers Mr tropes.

  • @ghuff31
    @ghuff314 жыл бұрын

    "Influenced by" in Hollywood is a fancy term for copied or stolen...

  • @archive881

    @archive881

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've heard imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but don't be fooled. So many stick with the mentally that "just because you have an idea what make you think it belongs to you?"

  • @LarixusSnydes

    @LarixusSnydes

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@archive881 I have no big issues with that, except when they copyright the derivate ( to call it nicely... ) and threaten to sue anyone that makes something that resembles it.

  • @TheseusPro

    @TheseusPro

    4 жыл бұрын

    Avon Pendragon i hate to break it to you but all art is stolen. 99% of what you make has been done before, its the 1% you add on that makes it unique

  • @LambdaJM
    @LambdaJM7 жыл бұрын

    ja, the silver surfer story is great. Also Incal I re-read the series every few year like my personal celebration for Moebius.

  • @DrTzeus
    @DrTzeus Жыл бұрын

    Metropolis the movie should get a mention for inspiring the endlessly deep tall city world, surely something that was in the minds of those great SciFi story creators of Europe after the 1930's. Great presentation thank you...

  • @HeleneLogan
    @HeleneLogan2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely my inspiration in all things illustration. A visionary.

  • @mau_victorino
    @mau_victorino7 жыл бұрын

    The episode I was hoping for! Moebius is just some brilliant stuff! Apart from that, you gave a look of genuine discomfort while preparing for a bite o escargot lol 😂 I don't blame ya, I never tried it either

  • @cha5

    @cha5

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maurício Victorino I love escargot myself, but I’ll admit it’s not for everyone. Kind of like pizza with anchovies isn’t.

  • @jacobkeary6740
    @jacobkeary67406 жыл бұрын

    The french toast didn't look good tbh. Seemed like normal toast with syrup 🤔

  • @Kijinn

    @Kijinn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indeed...looked and sounded like normal toast. I'm not sure if he's even aware that it's supposed to be drowned in milk and egg before frying?!

  • @s3lfFish

    @s3lfFish

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah and definitely not french we don't eat fake bread and that baguette definitely looked industrialised..

  • @fyodorkaramazov2136

    @fyodorkaramazov2136

    6 жыл бұрын

    To be honest all the food looked like shit and definitely not french

  • @s3lfFish

    @s3lfFish

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fyodor Karamazov It's because all the food was shit and defintely not french :(

  • @Phontoz

    @Phontoz

    5 жыл бұрын

    if you woulda said turned in sugar and cinnamon also it would have been what we in sweden call "fattiga riddare" or rougly; Poor (finanicially) knights. Often done on stale regular bread or Wienerbröd/danish pastry/Kopenhagener Gebäck A real quick and easy kids favourite

  • @danrazART
    @danrazART5 жыл бұрын

    You are much better than a comicsgate. I gave you two thumbs up.

  • @dinosaurfilms7425
    @dinosaurfilms74256 жыл бұрын

    Bro this channel is so sick, so glad I stumbled upon this.

  • @HazelCoffeeNut
    @HazelCoffeeNut4 жыл бұрын

    His art style reminds me of Winsor McCay.

  • @Lordoftheflyfilms
    @Lordoftheflyfilms6 жыл бұрын

    Watched your Love and Rockets video and was reminded I'm an alcoholic lol. Would be cool if you did something on Tim Vigils "Faust" and "Druuna" from Heavy Metal magazine. Might be pricy to track those 80s issues down, but both are amazing.

  • @EndlessLaymon

    @EndlessLaymon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Faust is a twisted masterpiece.

  • @whssy
    @whssy4 жыл бұрын

    Been a massive fan for decades. I took a massive collection of Moebius books back home with me after my year-long stay in France. Blueberry was written by Charlier though - only after his death did Giraud take on the writing. I was lucky enough to meet him at a Copenhagen signing in the late 90s. Sadly missed. He was so incredibly prolific.

  • @te9591
    @te95914 жыл бұрын

    Thx for choosing to cover this guy.

  • @gideonsgate9133
    @gideonsgate91335 жыл бұрын

    I think the quiver-shivs are more like vibro-blades than lightsabers but I'm nit-picking

  • @juanramirez6251
    @juanramirez62514 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail drawing looks like a piece from the comic novel “Druuna.”

  • @davidvincent380

    @davidvincent380

    4 жыл бұрын

    Serpieri is from the same era and was certainly influenced by Moebius

  • @freedo333
    @freedo3334 жыл бұрын

    This was a good video. I turned it off at the snail bit. I'm 50 years old & grew up with this stuff & this video turned me on to new insights

  • @mbsb1376
    @mbsb13764 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for some of these videos. They introduce people to a lot of comics that they wouldntve otherwise heard. I loved the one about Cerebus and I am a fan of it now. You should try one on Asterix maybe.

  • @lorenaescalier3136
    @lorenaescalier31367 жыл бұрын

    there is this sci-fi comic book called "ficcionario" by Horacio Altuna and Carlos Trillo that is also influenced by moebius but it is way more trashy, horacio altuna by the way is one amazing artist that is very popular in spain and france

  • @mehernoshtarapore8902

    @mehernoshtarapore8902

    6 жыл бұрын

    Carlos trilo used to work with Eduardo risso in Argentina Lorena escallier

  • @teddyrocker

    @teddyrocker

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mehernoshtarapore8902 Carlos Trillo used to work with everyone in Argentina. He was one of the most prolific authors ever, along Oesterheld, Robin Wood and Ray Collins.

  • @Quiro26
    @Quiro267 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Next ( i hope) Valiant Comics

  • @OAZIScomics
    @OAZIScomics10 ай бұрын

    Nah we need a whole channel of you just trying different foods 😂😂😂😂

  • @sonwukong7602
    @sonwukong76024 жыл бұрын

    ok, now I'm impressed. seeing you know and want to talk about Moebius and his influence to western concept art.....

  • @smallman3381
    @smallman33817 жыл бұрын

    I got unreasonably upset about the French fries

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    Loki Lyesmith Oh no! What's bad about French fries? Was it the brand I selected?

  • @smallman3381

    @smallman3381

    7 жыл бұрын

    skunkape you know what you did lol

  • @keithr.4645

    @keithr.4645

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @technopoptart

    @technopoptart

    6 жыл бұрын

    even more than the "french" toast? that shit is /clearly/ canadian toast

  • @trexpaddock

    @trexpaddock

    6 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps if was lamb fries, made in France, that would be OK. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_fries)

  • @JohnAquariusPodcast
    @JohnAquariusPodcast6 жыл бұрын

    yes thank you for the moebius vid

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte4 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, u did that for us man? U ate the discusting, slimmy-ass freaking gastropod mollusk ! I am flattered and actually impressed with your dedication to keeping entertainment an important piece of your channel and that's ontop of all the insightful examinations of various artists and other creators. I've learned quite a bit about these talented people behind the artwork watching your videos. I am also always very much entertained whenever I watch comic tropes. Thank you for eating a uber creepy, slime secreting cold dead slug Chris.

  • @mysteryneophyte

    @mysteryneophyte

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's really salty... Ewugh! ...It has a weird aftertaste... It's consistency is discusting.... Or something like that, whatever you said but I'm laughing Evey single time I think about it. LoL.. Ha that is some funny stuff there.

  • @joxer96
    @joxer963 жыл бұрын

    20:30 Apparently Moebius also influenced Prince. Just recently started getting into Moebius, thanks for the excellent introduction!

  • @thebigdentist251
    @thebigdentist2517 жыл бұрын

    It's "MObius", not "Moybius" - other than that, good video!

  • @rexmundi3108

    @rexmundi3108

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's driving me crazy.

  • @theDangerDudes

    @theDangerDudes

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was just thinking of how to explain the sound to Americans. The vocal in 'Dirt' without the 'r' at the end is the best I could come up with yet. Try it like: Mir-bee-us :D

  • @gst9325

    @gst9325

    6 жыл бұрын

    and also Yodorovsky not jodorovsky

  • @julianstuchlik8588

    @julianstuchlik8588

    6 жыл бұрын

    it's pronounced "möbius"

  • @stevencanales2668

    @stevencanales2668

    5 жыл бұрын

    Moebius is the correct pronunciation of Jean Henri Gaston Giraud /artist, designer, creator.

  • @demgutts
    @demgutts7 жыл бұрын

    Also looks like Moebius inspired Hirohiko Araki.

  • @RyumaXtheXKing

    @RyumaXtheXKing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Moebius inspired every Japanese mangaka that was around in the 70s and 80s. Seriously.

  • @kakyointhemilfhunter4273

    @kakyointhemilfhunter4273

    4 жыл бұрын

    The literal vampire

  • @johnpaulbruh7909

    @johnpaulbruh7909

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 he cannot die and also he MUSTN'T

  • @ProductionARF
    @ProductionARF4 жыл бұрын

    That's definitely my favorite video of you! As a French frogman it was a pleasure to see you try to eat snails

  • @newsduke
    @newsduke4 жыл бұрын

    These videos are great. They're more interesting because he comes up with things to do other than talk about comics. Like having guests, or enjoying a bottle of wine and slowly getting drunker during the video. It's like you're just hanging out at his house. (His french toast looked super burned, though.) The videos would be even better if they had a couch and a coffee table with some snacks on it.

  • @MrRenardbleu
    @MrRenardbleu6 жыл бұрын

    it was orson welles, not marlon brando

  • @nathansmith7809

    @nathansmith7809

    6 жыл бұрын

    Indigo halm thank you

  • @0oidiedinatimemachineo024

    @0oidiedinatimemachineo024

    4 жыл бұрын

    eh same diff. two fat guys lol

  • @Edeinawc

    @Edeinawc

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@0oidiedinatimemachineo024 What was that comment even? Wut?

  • @SeresTheZocker
    @SeresTheZocker7 жыл бұрын

    No frog legs? You're missing out man, they are super tasty Good episode though, I love Moebius

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    SeresTheZocker I was too sc-sc-sc-scared!

  • @VorpalDerringer

    @VorpalDerringer

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'd eat frog legs long before escargot.

  • @Kijinn

    @Kijinn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't let that fear get to you. Frog legs have a very mild taste, mostly comparable to something like chicken. The texture is also just that of a tender meat. There's absolutely nothing to be worried about except that, at worst, it may not be your new favorite food.

  • @kareliask
    @kareliask2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your work in promoting European and South American artists and authors :)

  • @scottr3299
    @scottr32994 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I'll add that if you look at any of Ridley Scott's pre-production artwork for Blade Runner, he drew roughty in the style of Jean Giraud. Also, Tarsem Singh's The Fall is clearly heavily influenced by The Airtight Garage in particular, especially the costumes. Singh is known for 'borrowing' visual ideas from others. Here's a story I've never written down before. When i was in college, I worked a summer job for a Hollywood miniature shop. For reference, my last day was when they started up on Ghostbusters and 2010 (I'm old). One of my jobs was to rearrange the storage bins out back. I couldn't help looking at everything in there, including a few things left over from Blade Runner. I came across a stack of pre-production artwork in the style of Moebius from another of their films, Brainstorm, though the technology in the drawings (headsets, etc.) wasn't anything like his designs. In fact it was pretty weak. When I asked about it, they explained that it was drawn by the original Production Designer on Brainstorm, who was let go at some point because they felt he wasn't a good fit. I want to say that it was Robert Boyle, famous for several Hitchcock movies and Fiddler on the Roof, but I'm not sure. In any case, it was confusing to me that he would 'borrow' the drawing style of Jean Giraud but not learn from his design sense. Seemed like a mystery that I would never solve. About a year later I was taking a 'visiting artist' class in Production Design. Hollywood professionals would visit once-a-week for three week runs. One of them turned out to be that same Production Designer. At the end of his first visit, he pulled out a small stack of Lieutenant Blueberry books and started lauding this "French artist unknown to Americans". Mystery solved! So of course the following week I brought in a stack of Moebius books and, just as I was hoping, blew that man's head wide open. I explained Giraud's various pen names, his involvement with Metal Hurlant, and even his work on Alien. The man pulled out his wallet and offered to pay me anything I wanted for that stack of books. Unfortunately several were out of print, so I steered him towards comic book stores.

  • @dacm19801
    @dacm198017 жыл бұрын

    Awesome episode Chris! I wish you would do a Milo Manara or a Paolo Eleuteri Serpieri episode but since they make erotic comics I guess that wouldn't fly here in youtube...bummer cause they are amazing artists

  • @TulilaSalome

    @TulilaSalome

    7 жыл бұрын

    Milo Manara did make at least one album that is not primarily erotic - actually I am disappointed he then decided to just concentrate on butts. Very talented.

  • @mattlerch531
    @mattlerch5317 жыл бұрын

    Damn, a lot of info I didn't know, and knowing is half the battle.

  • @TeatroGrotesco
    @TeatroGrotesco4 жыл бұрын

    I like the Better Off Dead reference in the trope point rewards.

  • @chapterblaq
    @chapterblaq5 жыл бұрын

    I was not expecting the thumbnail to be well what it was. That's a wild ass twist.

  • @dwightgaston6079
    @dwightgaston60794 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you mentioned how he used the language of film to frame his stories, but you failed to mention another unique facet of his: his incredibly varied styles of drawing. Almost 99% of comic artists have just one style - Joe Kubert, Frank Miller, Tony de Zuniga, Neal Adams, etc - but the difference between, say, his westerns and his sci-fi AND his Arzach fantasies are like night and day.

  • @jacobkeary6740
    @jacobkeary67406 жыл бұрын

    Anyone see Heavy Metal... like the movie?

  • @metalhead805666

    @metalhead805666

    6 жыл бұрын

    love that film. The Loc-Nar lol

  • @chongsfury4358

    @chongsfury4358

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's my Loc-Nar

  • @Zeropointill

    @Zeropointill

    6 жыл бұрын

    or it's sequel, Heavy Metal 2000?

  • @lunarmodule6419

    @lunarmodule6419

    6 жыл бұрын

    Both Heavy Metal were canadian movies. But since we speak french we are very very aware of Mœbius work. Un fact of all europeen french speaking art and culture (popular or fine arts) Thats the beauty of being canadian.

  • @ActivelyVacant

    @ActivelyVacant

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Harry Canyon part of the movie looks like it took a lot of inspiration from this story as well.

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen2 ай бұрын

    Fantastic episode

  • @xiuxiu1108
    @xiuxiu11084 жыл бұрын

    Damn the part where Pete forces the assassin to go through the launch pad was awesome