I really like this idea of picking the open E and practicing the modes over top of it. Really cool exercise.

This is something I always meant to chart out for myself. I agree... the classical way to learn them is to build them from each note in a given scale.. but then they aren't using the same 'magnet' and aren't in the same key.. this is FAR better and more concise. Kudos on a great tutorial!

There's even a better way to get into modes. When you play a minor pentatonic scale, you leave out the 2nd and 6th degree of a mode. By filling these holes you create the dorian (2 & #6), aoelian (2 & & 6) and the phrygian (b2 & 6) modes. Then you take a major pentatonic and do something similar, and complete the scale with a 4th and a 7th. Ionian (4 & 7), lydian (#4 & 7) and mixolydian (4 & b7). I've taught it like thar for decades,.Anyway. This method has a least 2 big advantages over every other approach I'm familiar with. 1st: you build modes on something you already know, and 2nd: the notes you add, are actually the ones that give you the characteristic sound of the scale PS: Long live Reverend guitars :-)! PPS: For locrian you obviously need a b2 and a b5, so you would have to alter the 5th of your minor pentatonic, but - honestly - the last time I could have used locrian (must have been in the early 90ies), I probably played a half-diminished arpeggio ;-).

@sjdanthem

3 жыл бұрын

You deserve shit for going on the man's channel and being that one-upping-know-it-all, but, I gotta give you credit. That's good information.

@robn.7426

3 жыл бұрын

I understood his video, but don't understand your comment. Making your own video of this would help a lot more than your comment.

@stuntdouble777

3 жыл бұрын

You obviously don't know how to play jazz.

@allatsea2746

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuntdouble777 Shit, I didn't think it was that obvious :-( ... ;-)

@allatsea2746

3 жыл бұрын

@@robn.7426 I prefer making music to making videos, but if you have a specific question, just ask. It's easier than it sounds. Here's my email: vikbeck@gmx.at

Awesome lesson. I went through the same thing learning modes. I would relate everything to the parent key when I was playing over the progression which allowed me familiarity with the scale pattern, but my licks didn't really sound as modal as they could/should. I started doing what you are doing over a cello drone and it finally clicked in. Wish I had you for a teacher from the beginning.

Really amazing watching you develop your course over the last few years. Thank you for creating such great & informative content!

You are blowing my mind! 20 years I’ve tried to understand the rocket science of modes and in 12 minutes I now get it… thank you!

Although I have learned more theory later in life, I started playing guitar just by ear. In pre-internet days, the only way to learn was to listen to records. I had put together both major and minor pentatonic scales (of course, without knowing what they were called - I just remembered shapes on the neck relative to where I played the root chord) and understood their voice and where to use them fairly easily and was content with that for years. And then Passion and Warfare came out. In particular, The RIddle was the first time I was hearing sounds I didn't know how to reproduce. At first I just thought they were magical Steve Vai scales, but after listening a lot and learning to copy, I came up with the realization that they were all just different major scales played over a different root. So you could play a D major scale over E, or an A major scale over E or a B major scale over E, and get these unique colorings. I never learned them as different intervals within a single key - I just thought of them as different major scales. Even now that I know what modes are, this mental model still seems simpler to me. Instead of memorizing 7 different scale shapes, I memorize 1 and learn to play it in every key. Then all I have to know is which major scale over a given root, gives me the sound I want.

@guitello100

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that's how I think of them as well. Using different major scales over certain chords or particular keys to achieve the sound of a particular mode. For example if I want to play a Dorian mode over Am I will play a G major scale or Em scale since they are both the same notes. That was always easier for me than thinking in terms of having to play a sharp or flat note in that scale

@ParaBellum2024

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. it's a much simpler concept to grasp.

@micheldindaine8403

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitello100 Of course? as long as your bass note (the magnet) is A, every G major mode you play over that A will sound dorian.

@kane6529

3 жыл бұрын

This is also how I’ve approached it and the only way my pea brain can comprehend 🤣

@aa.mirezZ

2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty much nail on the head just remember to accent your root by ending and starting on it. If you play e min scale for example over a minor chord you would want to still end on that a to stay in the a dorian mode since a Dorian begins and ends on a.

Exactly how I teach this to my students! All about the interaction harmonically! I teach modes as shapes to begin with and bring in the harmony later once the major scale is understood!

You've become one of my favorite instructors, David. Keep up the great work!

Really hypnotic playing. Loved it. You can hear the subtle differences against that droning E note.... The "magnet" as David calls it

THANK you! This is a really great exercise! This helps me remember what the modes SOUND like.

This is great. I've been trying to gradually learn some modes and this is very helpful for me, because I already love playing that open E string and messing around an octave up while letting it ring out. So essentially I think I've already been playing around with the modes in the way you did here, just without knowing why those notes sounded so good together. Now I know.

Excellent lesson, awesome teacher!

This is a cool approach, the way that I was taught to understand modes is to think of the underlying chord progression, since that's really where the difference comes in, when you shift the root the scale degrees change and the thus the chord progressions that work with the mode are different. That's pretty much what you're doing just with the roots, so you can easily expand on this.

What a great viewpoint of modes - it really opened my eyes to a different way of looking at them.

Great way to learn the feel of the different modes. I found playing chord triads on the 5,4,3 strings using notes from the modal scales and then soloing over those also helped pick up the feel

You’re the first teacher I’ve heard teach this right, from an emotional perspective!

This has to be one of the best lessons which has furthered my understanding about modes. The explanation is beautiful and flows from one concept to another leading to ‘the characteristic note’ Fascinating how movement of one note completely changed the sound and mood - just one note ! Thank u David ! I’m going to play with this using root notes on different strings next - this is going to be just hours if not days of non stop fun 🙏🏽

Super useful! Really makes sense now. I love the different feeling one can create using modes.

Great video! I learned a lot on this tricky subject. Thank you.

Truly excellent. Best explanation of this I've ever seen.

Thanks David, all your videos are very helpful and you explain superb !

You are such great teacher ! Love your stuff and learning fast

This is a great video. Very inspiring content. Thanks man. Definitely subscribed!

Thanks David for this lesson! Subscribed!

Bro, this is awesome. This really help me get more melody focus on my songwriting

I have learn this approach not long ago after years of confusion, thank you for fortifying this idea.

James Scott Nicholson, Ontario, Canada! I am so glad to see someone breaking down the modes, into 7 note Patterns. They are confusing enough as they are, especially when they’re transcribed into14 to 20 note patterns... in the process of learning my scales I have always had no problem figuring out the rest of the notes all over the fretboard, Hence as you say simply mastering all the notes on the fretboard. For example through this Covid period,I have taught myself theory. In the last month I started taking my major and minor scales in seven note forms, and transcribing them all over the neck. It makes it so much easier just looking at the seven notes you need. PS I had a lot of fun doing it, so now I have a model template??? I can start transcribing them all over the neck. Thanks a lot this makes so much more sense and I’ve been on modes For six months now. Top left

Thank you so much. This is a great lesson. I hope you'll make more many this one clip.

Very clear explanation, you have amazing teaching skills. You have a new subscriber from today. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Wow, thanks so much! I’ve been struggling to understand and remember the formula for modes. This is a huge help!

Fantastic lesson! I"m a new fan!

Woooow your teachings is pure. Thank you! I Wish i have known this 10 years ago! Playing catch up now..

This is fantastic. Helped immensely

This explanation is helpful, seeing each mode as it’s own scale as opposed to relating everything to the major scale. Because each scale still sounds like E, in this case instead of starting each mode on each note of the major scale which completely changes the tonal quality of each scale.

Great lesson! Frankly speaking, I've come to right that conclusion (modes are the strong auxillary guitar players' tool for emotional embellishment of guitar melodies; there are 3 major and 4 minor modes etc.) long ago and this David's lesson said nothing new to me exept the confirmation of what I already know. BUT! I listened this lesson with great pleasure: to present information succinctly, maximal informatively and comprehensive way - one must have the respective teacher's talent. You have this talent, David! Thank You very much and please, keep on moving!

Excellent lesson! I've never understood how modes were to be used effectively. The magnet concept is brilliant. I was noodling along with you and could detect a glimmer of light! Keep it coming!

@jackh577

3 жыл бұрын

And with this lesson, you still don't understand modes. :(

David, that was a great video. Thanks!

So good, I know all the mode on 6 strings but now I do understand that we have to reference to the note that makes the modes depending on the key we play.

Great lesson and sound demo for the Church modes. Handy PDF chart also. Thanks.

My gosh, this is THE best lesson I have ever seen on modes.

That's cool !!! Sensational explanation!!! Things like this are excited!!!

Great lesson! Thank you.

Modes made no sense to me until I played them against a chord which actually happened by accident...I was strumming a Cmaj chord and then played the notes of Gmaj against it. My 1st thought was Flying in a Blue Dream and my second was oh Lydian so this is how modes work. Pretty simple and I don't understand why people are confused by such a simple concept. I see a few KZreadr's talk about the confusion of modes when there is nothing confusing at all...Play the notes of Gmaj against a Gmaj chord progression Ionian, Play the notes of Gmaj against an Amin chord progression Dorian..ect ect...nothing confusing at all. target the cord tones and put some emphasis on the half steps and your ready to rock. I love theory. Was always a scary word to me but boy was I wrong...theory is awesome!

@garylisbon8933

2 жыл бұрын

@@christof7778 Happy to help. It really is a simple concept. Modes are all about what you put emphasis on. I'm no incredible guitar player however learning theory has brought me a lot closer to being one. Happy jamming!!!

One of the best approaches to learning and digesting the intention of modes I've seen to date. I often wonder why instruction on modes is typically or intentionally perplex. Sinisterly, I can't help but think that ego can get in the way...as if to keep the "secret" a "secret". Out of the endless tutorials, how many get to the real point? It's disheartening to think that there exists such a lack of teaching ability out there. Or, that the intention is to not really convey. In any case, this lesson is all you need, in the beginning, and to build from there. Excellent job!

Thank you.....Good explanation. I see many on KZread using the methed of the major scale and say this is not going to mean a thing to a great many people. This is also much faster and makes it easier to improvise when you just want to get to it and jam. IMO

Best KZread Guitar Lesson in a long time! Not only can you see the subtle differences between each mode, they are fun to play around with.

@tterrabend

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for making modes easier to understand! This is one of your BEST lessons yet!

I learned ( which was my straight forward book way) every mode in A .All 5 mode scale positions up the neck.After I learned those..the book said "Now u know all the modes" Which is true,after you memorize the mode scales in Key of A or learn starting with any key..the fingering never changes it - just depends what fret your playing those shapes on changes the mode name.Example: If you learn key A- Aeolian scale at fifth fret but slide up to 7th fret and play same exact scale now your just playing B Aeolian.. So instead of doing that ,go to 7th fret n play 2nd interval of A aeolian, then to 9th fret n play proper interval n so on till you've completed all 5 scale patterns.Aeolian just means natural minor scale.So now u know(after u study what those 5 patterns are the minor scale all the way up the neck in key of A but you can Use any Key u want now that u know the minor scale in any key you choose..That just 1 mode of 7, each with a diff name n sound but you know all the patterns if you know just the one.Mine I first learned was in A so figured I'd tell u guys how I learned "The Modes"

C'est génial et pourtant simple, merci ! Awesome yet simple, thank you !

Amazing breakdown David, loved it!! It was extremely helpful, you have gained a new subscriber thank you!! 💯

@Wallimann

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

when I'm practicing these modal improves i like to think of other songs i know that use that mode ..if i can. just helps me recognize it and distinguish the differences Thank you for sharing this with us

Well explained, thank you so much 👍

I normally couldn't care less about online lessons. Buy really waiting for your course. Please tell me there will be one 🙏

thanks! you make anything seem so natural. plus that guitar is beautiful

@Wallimann

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Absolutely brilliant lesson.

Super Leçon David. Thanks a lot

Outstanding lesson.

Great moods in your little stories!

finally got my head around pentatonic and can apply it in my playing so trying to move on to modes and I feel like it's jumping from simple addition and subtraction to calculus.

Thank you David 👍🏻 I love the sounds of the different modes 🎸 only wish I could get my head around them 👍🏻🇬🇧🎸

@Wallimann

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Dave!

Intervals are the best in transitioning tone oyeah glad you repeat stuff

Great lesson!

By far the best video on the topic, thanks!

This was awesome thank you!

Thank you sir for the lesson🙂👍

I gotta tell ya David, you sure know your way around that guitar fret board. New fan here!

Great lesson ! A drone is a single note that carries on for a period of time. EASY Example for playing the Lydian mode. Open E as the drone. Play the A major scale over the E drone and you will be able to hear the characteristics of the Lydian mode. Simple beginner trick to satisfy the ear with instant results giving you the belief in the method and encouragement to learn more.

Very helpful, thanks.

it enlightens me....thank you thank you 😊🙏

Man... That's so much easier to understand... Thank you... This has been bugging me for a while. Thank you for playing from the same position! Now I can see how they relate to each other. Not just the same notes in a different place on the neck.. I paid $500 for a class and you showed me more in 12 minutes than that place has...

Interesting...thx. I learned the modes like you first described.....this may train my ear better.

Great lessons...thanks so much...

As a drummer moving to guitar and bass recently, this was extremely helpful. Thank you!

@portnoy256

3 жыл бұрын

me too! :)

@baSsDiaRy01

3 жыл бұрын

yes, i am😍😍

Best lesson I've seen on Modes !

Finnally some clean tones, now I can hear the sound of the guitar, (and not the disto sound of your gear), in this case a new cool one guitar indeed. p.x. : why you do not play those modes in the other string? Even the tabs are missing them? Anyway, Ciao !! 🙋

This is helpful, thank you.

awesome lesson many thanks! .....would u please tell us how distinguish in the term of the story (conceptually) between the 3 major modes ? what degree of happiness each mode stands for ? and the same with the 3 minor modes.....thanks again!

Probably the best explanation and use of modes so far

I have watched literally dozens of your very informative videos and only, just now, have a grasped why you always refer to the "magnet." I suspect this is a breakthrough (after some 50 years of playing guitar, by the way - often not particularly well).

Just brilliant!!!

Just won a new subscriber. Very nice video! :)

Good stuff - thank you

Mind blowing!!!! Thanks!!!!!

Thank you David

It is very helpful thanks

I read somewhere that the modes were developed after people had been playing music for awhile so that they represent the various ways that the notes of a given scale are actually played.

Dude since years ago i've tried to understand modes untill i check that vidéo ... Thé best WAY for me thank you so much

now it make sense, thanks great Video

This is just amazing

谢谢你的分享，讲的太好了。化复杂到简单。

Nice Reverend. I have 4 different models and would like to get more.

Excellent!!!

Very helpful.

Best 12 minutes of modes in KZread

great, thanks

Music theory is a funny thing. When I started learning to play guitar, I thought learning music theory would teach me how to play. I came to realize that it's more about teaching me to understand what it is I've been trying to do, so I can do it more consciously and effectively. Without thinking of it in those terms, I've been playing around with that magnet note thing you described for a while, and your are description just made it all click into place for me. I was able to make the connection to how that works with modes. Now I can take off and run with it.

Thank you so much..

The worst thing about Modes is that whenever someone gives their knowledge freely in a YT video, like David here has so kindly done, the comments section will fill up with stupid questions and arrogant comments. If you think that you understand modes, you really don't understand modes.

@jamescalka1280

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree !

@craigm7750

3 жыл бұрын

"I created modes and am still clueless"-God

Hi David, I discovered you in True fire... I bought your course Pentatonics DNA, I'm studying it very carefully. Now I discovered your free course and your website with free clinics course too. I also saw that you have other two courses on TrueFire, so there's a lot to look at. I ask you a suggestion please: after studying your Dna Pentatonic course which is the natural prosecution of the learning path? TrueFire course on caged dna, your free course,..... can you give me a suggestion please? Thanks again and congrats! You're a great teacher! Alessandro

love that Reverend guitar!