Thanks for sharing that learning with forms too close and concrete getting in between. It helps us learn for the next project. Cheers!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

YW GL

I watch this in amazement. I would find it overwhelming to even try to set up the lumber . Great Team . Nice job 👍🏻

It’s great you guys man up when you create a ‘challenge’ situation and admit it could have done better. Shows what absolute pros you really are.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

We always try to improve

Wow, such a pain, backbreaker! Overall, looking good so far, particular the floating step. This project gave me more idea.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Tim did an excellent job with that so far. I want to see the whole project finished.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Me too TY

@jhonnySpecail

Жыл бұрын

me too

@jimrussell-wl9pc

Жыл бұрын

Do anyone know how to finish concrete anymore, other than broom?

It definitely looks well worth all the hard work!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it was!

This looks amazing

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

ty

Once more, it is gorgeous

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

TY

On a similar job we used 3/4 stakes and pre-trimmed flush to the top of all 2x4 frames and covered gaps with overlapping layers of red stucco tape to keep out concrete from falling in the gaps. Finishers sponged off the red tape as they edged and then upon frame removal, we Sawzalled through the nails holding the stakes to the 2x4's and pulled out the between stakes and the pre-oiled 2x4's came out pretty easy. We debated if we were overthinking it but it worked out great and was a easy removal due to an hour of taping the joints.

@Mark_Mark_Mark_Mark_Mark

2 жыл бұрын

It's all in the prep

@galvanizedgnome

2 жыл бұрын

im confused as hell what you are saying

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a good concept but with form oil and screeds, edgers, hand floats and other things hitting the top of the form, tape is not going to hold. I recommend putting a flexible filler in between the forms, like expansion foam, backer rod.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Thats right set up is the key to sucess

@Dothedeu

2 жыл бұрын

Or just be careful. Did many like these and it's imperative to not throw any concrete in that space. Then the 2x4 comes out with a couple taps.

With the headache I bet it still looks fabulous. Your son is learning from the best around. I wish y’all lived in Texas. I could keep you busy for sure.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

The hard way is the best way

Yeah the form removal was tough, but the job is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished product.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Me too TY

"Live and learn". Good attitude to have. I would have been beside myself.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

The best way

Im learning to do Concrete work with my dad and I actually really enjoy it, very happy to have found your channel, and also very jealous of some of the tools yall use that we dont! :D

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually TY

Burk bar would be pretty handy in that situation. I’ve used the foam expansion in a similar application and it’s night and day difference.

Bellísimo trabajo felicidades excelente equipo de profesionales 👏 👍 💪

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

TY

Great job Kid! Mistakes should only happen Once! I’m sure that’ll never happen again! Looking nice so far! Can’t wait for part 2! Maybe 3! 😅🤩🤩🫡👌

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Me too TY

@nreddington1857

Жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete try a 4x2 and have ins polystyrene each side of 4x2 the same shape and grease it up thanks noel ireland 🇮🇪

Great job

ODELL DA GOAT BACK AT IT AGAIN LOVE FROM TORONTO

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

TY

Nice job bro!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the visit

Pulling those forms sure looks rough. Cool video. Thanks

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I don't recommend it

Well he learned something new of what not to do so it wasn't a total waste. Your videos are getting such better quality.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I concur TY

Put a screw on the 2x4 get a crow bar the yellow ones from Home Depot put a 2x4 wedge on the bottom of the crow bar to create leverage and pry up , I did a rock and cement driveway in Mexico with 4” spacing it was a nightmare to get out but that’s how i found it easiest!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Good move

Good job👍

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

awesome job yall. a puller tool would work good on removing those stubborn form boards. it could be a piece of all thread with a hook at the end and there could be a frame that sits ontop of the concrete to pull against. and the hook will drop down under the form board and then turn the all thread to pull the form out. could also lay an 8"x8" wood block on the concrete and lay a burkes bar across the block and hook a chain on the end of the bar and the bottom of the chain hooks on the form board and pry that stubber biotch out of there. ive got a spec house build starting soon and these squares would look nice. so glad yall make these videos for us. thanks so much.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Good ideas TY

The pour was amazing. Sucks the wood got stuck. Live and learn.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Your right!

On my job I tape them up and spray with form oil.. still struggle a bit but way easier

Should have used the strong duct tape or roll of expansion foam between each piece of lumber. We had that exact same mistake, but we solved it quickly by using a 1inch wood auger bit and drilled the wood at on a 45.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Nice move

it's cool to see you're a little critical of your son on this job. it's not easy to be a dad

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Practice makes perfect

You could use 3/4 inch strips of pink or blue insulation foam between the 2 by 4 lumber so no concrete fills the space. Then use a solvent, perhaps gasoline to dissolve the foam and create a space, then remove the form boards.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. the foam is flexible so I don't think you would have to remove it first to get the forms out

I agree using the black or grey half inch pipe insulating foam between the form boards would keep the concrete out.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I would use next time

Good video

@OdellCompleteConcrete

4 ай бұрын

Ty

Where do you get your long groover that goes on the pole, and the "funny trowel"? Is there a place online I can get them? Also your videos are awesome, your a great concrete man. Keep pushing the videos.

Sorry about your disaster in Arizona, my concrete brother. Prayers.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

TY John

Expansion foam is the way to go, still use the stakes with a toenailed screw left out far enough to find and remove

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I concur TY

thx

How about screwing into the boards some Simpson SDS screws halfway then using a pry bar on the screws to pull the boards out?

I just poured a very similar driveway, 8" wide forms for pavers, yeah stripping it sucked

could some industrial/commercial mold release on the forms helped?

You got to have these kinds of problems to be able to adjust for the next time you do something similar and don't have the same results , pour is looking good

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

It works out in the end

Some foam in the caps between the boards would have been the way to go like you said. I think what would have helped to get these out is if you made a few rip cuts with a skil saw at full depth. 3 cuts and you would have opened up about a 1/4"

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Yes rip cuts would have help

I’ve used backer rod

Hi Nick innovated concrete I use paper in between the joints grade has to be tight and I’ve done them with 2-1/4” joints using 1x4 acid etched pewter came out beautifull anyway keep on you guys do nice work

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Ty Gl

a johnson bar might have helped out. great work!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

that would add a unique touch

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

The intro, I like it don’t love it but is good.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

TY

@JesusEspinoza-ty9xq

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete I like the way you guys work, is so clean. Love it 👏👏👏

Odell,we fill gap with fine sand and then cut black paper 3", staple with lathers hammer tacker,pour carefully, forms come right out. Tim Brookhart Carlsbad CA

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Nice technique

You’re such a busy business lol. 😄

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Busy body

I don't know anything about concrete, but I worked as a boat builder making forms for a long time. We used blue foam strips in many of our forms. Then we melted it with acetone. Probably not acceptable, but I was wondering if it would work and would it be cost effective?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea

Run chopsaw between forms to create a tension release

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

I'm wondering if that jack hammer form removal technique helped the slabs heave upon each other

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I hope not

I was wondering could 1xs work ? Probably would need more steaks in between for sure but will have more play in between gaps

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe

I'd be so worried about chipping the edges getting those forms out.

what’s going in between each slab your poured? looks cool but looks like a huge PIA to pour

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it was. Black river rock

I want to build a large patio by myself. 16' x 22', but I am just wondering if it's possible to build it section by section like this video.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can.

great video David! Since that time how do you prep the forms for easy removal once the concrete sets up? Will motor oil do the trick? Also what is the recommended width if you want to add river rock in the joints?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

4" minimal. The trick for removal is no concrete in between the forms

@tonyr7000

Жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete Agreed! You once mentioned using some sort of expandable removable foam in the joints to keep the concrete from spilling in. Have you tried that? Seemed like a good idea!

similar DIY and i stuck newspaper in between the forms

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I like that idea for a on the spot remedy

Would this type of driveway work in an area that has cold weather. Snow frost etc. I just was wondering if the water in between might freeze or frost heave etc?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Throw some gravel under it

Beautiful job. What is meant by "Last to go off"?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

OSS

What cameras do you use? Great work as always

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Go pro

Did seeing your boy live and learn remind you of your days getting going?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

What if you were to stuff pipe insulation or if it’s to narrow maybe backer rod down between the 2xs?I don’t think it would be that more expensive than spray foam

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a great idea. TY

Where is the final finished video of this driveway.

I appreciate all the work put into this pour. Why wouldnt you just saw cut and clean it out thin strip. Or, you could clean it when its wet.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Next time

Big fan. Did you say the driveway pavers are 8’x8’?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that sounds about right

Good job! Но выковыривать доски между плитами, то ещё удовольствие)

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

ty

Dude I love your videos. And as always great contractors like you are just booked solid and hard to get estimates and work done. I am located in San Francisco South Bay Area and I think you are not in this area?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Your right, I'm in Orange County

Bro - would it have helped to have covered the forms with plastic before the pour - that way the concrete would not have stuck to the forms? I am sure you sprayed with oil first maybe.

Use something like memory foam betweem the wood

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

We did a job with random sized squares. MY GOD The Entire area was like 20 x 50 ALL random sizes, 2 x 3, 6 x 5, 3 x 3, 3 x 6 etc. We poured it all at once, what a nightmare keeping up with edging but we got it done. Sand finish also

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of edges are challenging

Hi Dave, I got a classic rookie question … the 2x4 screed board that they are using at first, is it planed at all to make sure it is flat with crisp edge or is it of-the shelf piece? I am curious because of usual crown/bow type of issues with framing lumber. In your line of work its all about super-level and crisp lines etc. Great work per usual. Always something to learn. Thanks in advance.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Its just a stock straight 2 x 4. It is nice to find one with a crown sometmes/

@randybobandy9828

2 жыл бұрын

I assume they use a very straight board but I doubt they worry about the edge since they will come float it out and smooth it after.

@7.3powerstroke6

2 жыл бұрын

Use a Cedar 2x4 expensive but us professionals use them because they are nice and straight and light.

@splanzza

2 жыл бұрын

@@7.3powerstroke6 That makes totally sense. Thanks! 👊

You could have tried a multitool to cut the lenghts down and this would most likely help with the removal. Great job though. Thanks

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

Looks nice. Maybe a small strip of wood in the middle to avoid concrete going inside. Small enough to where you don’t have a problem to level the concrete

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking expansion foam

Maybe insert backer rod in between the forms.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Good idea

Hammer drill and chisel bit

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

Excellent job and how much would something like this cost?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

10000

@davispaul82

Жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete Much Appreciated and again, excellent work.

How did you fix up the chipped edges?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Grinder

done.

Damn that's rough on the boyz... Would have killed me! 😄

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

Diablo blade, plunge cut the screws and pull the stakes.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we tried that xD

Maybe could have screwed a lag bolt and chain to the 2x4 and attach the other end of chain to a jack to pull em up?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Would have just broken the 2x4s, made nice kindling though

With joints that close I would have used 1x4s where to squares meet and 2x4s on the perimeter. Cut wood spacers to put in between the 1x4s to maintain distance. 1x4s are much easier to strip. Once you pull the spacers out they flex away from the concrete

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

That sounds good

@myronsmith2114

Жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete That leaves you 2 1/2 inches to clean out any concrete with a margin trowel while your on the sliders

Looks like a few chips were unavoidable. Any way to fix those?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they got fixed

High density styrofoam slight bevel on both sides and grease em up round stake thru middle every 3'. Hour n a half all blockouts stripped. 🤙

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo

What pump is being used here?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Olin

Any chance to get a time frame of when to float, mag, and finish?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Sure

Next time, put your base filler first, level it out, compact it as usual, then when you start forming use 1 piece of 2x4 squeezed in between 2 pieces of high density styrofoam to the thickness needed

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

I like it

You guys need to buy a burk bar I don’t strip any concrete without it, either the forms will come out whole or in pieces!

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good

Are we gonna see the finished product?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, coming soon

Do you work with a landscape designer for all this?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

No

Foam is amazing for these projects once everything is cured you can hit them with a torch and bingo bongo

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

For sure

Could you fill the gaps with sand which you could pressure wash out once it's all dry?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Good idea

@brianlinehan11

Жыл бұрын

@@OdellCompleteConcrete Interested in a quote. What a ballpark price per sq ft for something like this? Thank you

A funny thought. Native plants to the area are drought tolerant. Wouldn’t that suggest that drought in the desert is nothing new? 😅

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Live and learn is right! It’ll look good in the end so it’s alright. Man o man how much does this stuff cost? Will your “mistake” cost the client more man hours?

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Haha no it’s on me but yes live and learn!

Яку марку бетону використовуєте?

You could have covered all of those gaps between the 2x4s with duct tape. that way you could just peel it up when you're done and have no concrete down in between between the 2x4s

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

Form oil, no stick. Expansion foam

I look the looks of loose gravel, but the thing that would drive me nuts with loose gravel borders is the loose gravel. Inevitable that rain, animnals, cars etc will constantly loosen the gravel. Leading to a messy look, or worse a fall hazard from walking on what amounts to rock marbles.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

Жыл бұрын

Yes it will require maintanance

Slide hammer time

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

that may work

👍

I feel like I would have just used a circular saw and cut one of the 2x4's until there was nothing but sawdust left. That might have given you enough room to get the other one out more easily.

@OdellCompleteConcrete

2 жыл бұрын

That will work or howabout burning them out

👍👏👏👏👏