I’m a scientist and the community is going to love this. As are a lot of others in fields faced with similar issues of getting peripherals and computers of vastly different ages and using different protocols to talk to each-other. For example in my current lab I have a DOS PC that we keep running because of it’s custom hardware and software, which isn’t available for newer platforms; but we also had to get it to work with USB-only keyboard and mice as well as more modern data collection devices that emulate USB keyboards, mice, and game pads. This would have been way easier to implement then getting a USB PCI card to work in DOS without breaking any of the other existing and essential peripherals or software. This is something to add to my list of resources for solving this type of connectivity issue.

@Sean-D78

2 жыл бұрын

That's really cool, I should tell my brother who likes science about this

@schnuder

2 жыл бұрын

A HUGE Thank You from all of us scientists and engineers to the retro computer community for your contributions to our fields of work ranging from behavioral science to particle physics, even if when you didn't know you were helping. It's not unusual to find decades old computers still in service in research labs and facilities because of the expensive and often custom built hardware they interface with or control. Finding items like compatible monitors, input devices, as well as tools to get these old computers to talk with modern peripherals and networks are a major issues for the field. The more solutions that the retro community to give us to keep these systems operational, from hardware adapters to use modern replacements, to removable media conversion/archiving, to fully functional software emulators; the better we can do in keeping our research and development moving forwards.

@johnmurcott1273

2 жыл бұрын

does the computer run doom?

@Afif87123

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but what's the interesting part of that?

Great to see more coverage of this, I've been using it constantly for a few weeks! Looking forward to more folks getting their hands on it once the KS campaign finishes up, it's such a useful thing and only getting better as the software improves.

@MichaelMJD

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! I’ve been really impressed with it so far and want to try out some more input devices. And yeah seeing more coverage of this is gonna be cool, especially if people end up making additional Protocol Cards down the road.

@lionlight9514

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMJD sup

@nob9000

2 жыл бұрын

xd

@zvisger

2 жыл бұрын

Yay it's LGR! I love you man :) you got me through some rough days my dude.

If I had a vintage computer and this, I can imagine playing Disney's Magic Artist with a wacom tablet.

@djmidnightwolf

2 жыл бұрын

I have one of those tablets

@WilburJaywright

2 жыл бұрын

LOL, this reminds me of when I went to that website where you can run really early versions of windows in your browser, and I tried to use Microsoft paint on windows one with a wacom tablet. Unfortunately, it didn’t work. Oh well :-)

@crudicle8407

2 жыл бұрын

@@djmidnightwolf same

@ajtv_ag

2 жыл бұрын

And imagine playing crash 1 original in a PS5 controller

@Thekinggamelon

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajtv_ag Also playing Jazz Jackrabbit with a wireless SNES controller. This becuase the gravis gamepad resembles the SNES controller.

Bonus Points for having one of the macro buttons... be an instant rickroll when pressed.

@ColdWarAviator

2 жыл бұрын

I knew some kind soul would say what the three question mark macro was... Lol. I thought "is that a "Rick Roll"?... I Paused the video... Started reading the comments... And had my great hope confirmed. I am always amazed that people who have a creative drive, (the ones who invent things) also always seem to have a sense of humor.

Great video, I get such a kick out of you laughing at successes and failures.. so entertaining. thank you for all of your time.

This is a game changer for our retro community, I can’t wait for it to be widely available I would be his first customer instantly!

“I’ve been wanting to do this for over two weeks!“ It’s official, a week is a computer month.

6:53 this music will now always remind me of Dankpods...

looks absolutely awesome ! never know that it was possible to do that

One trick I used to do was use the Gravis Gamepad software on Windows 95 to treat my Lynx web browser as a "game." It actually worked very well, mapping the digital control cross to the arrow keys, and the other buttons to various commonly used keys.

Pong: the Next Level was a huge wave of nostalgia to me! I had totally forgotten about that game, I played it a ton as a kid :)

Nice one! LGR did a video about this a few weeks ago!

@MaverickTheDemonWolf

2 жыл бұрын

I was just going to say this. 😂

Amazing! I'm already on the list since a few weeks - Can't wait to receive this kit and trying it ! 👌

That looks so dope, I'd love to get one!

Another BANGER video, as per usual!

2024: last year in April 2023, I checked out and did a review for its new protocol card for early macs (4p4c keyboard + serial mouse + still 2 adb ports + lisa keyboard connector). this project does not get enough coverage for how awesome it is, and it really scales up when you have multiple machines that can profit from it

Another week another awesome video.

This sounds like a really nice kit to get into vintage desktop, and I would love to see an entire video with the switch controller doing everything

Awesome video! Love this kind of retro tech!

Awesome video, Michael!

Good luck for those eligible! No hate here from Australia. Again, best of luck!

It’s quite fun to play retro PC games with Modern Controllers!

Just pulled the trigger on getting one after seeing your recommendation.

Cant wait till the device gets released (i backed the project already :D)

I'm sitting here thinking 'HUH a microcontroller like a pico could probably do the translation, which puts even a zero as massive overkill. Which to me says that pi could PROBABLY be put to use doing other things alongside being an IO translator. Wonder what other retro oriented projects this could serve. Use the Pi as a wifi bridge for networking? Trnaslate modern web into something the target machine can understand? Mail client so the target machine jsut has to talk to the pi and then the pi talks to the actual email service?

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

You’d be surprised how much timing tolerances can eat-up CPU speed. Without latches/bus transceivers, the microcontroller needs to be able to perfectly run in sync with the timing the system expects. And that can be significantly more complex in practice than you’d initially think. Like to emulate a latched input, you can waste hundreds or thousands (or even millions) of clock cycles ensuring the timing will line up, especially if the host system isn’t perfectly predictable.

@singletona082

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlyn__L So basically can't expect the pi to do double duty in this thing?

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

@@singletona082 not “can’t”, more “not necessarily”. It depends on how much support hardware exists on those custom boards and how tight the timings are for all the various systems it can be used with. There’s a video called “WiFi Game Boy Cartridge” by “there oughta be” which goes into those challenges, although obviously that’s about the Z80 CPU and a very different system bus, while this is emulating ADB and PS/2. But there is some information there which you can cross-apply. He does actually manage with a microcontroller in that video, but it ends up being much beefier than he’d initially anticipated, and has zero headroom for anything else. So for instance maybe the Pi might be able to do network translation, but not the other items you suggested, or maybe it could indeed do all of it. Rather it’s just not as simple as looking at the RAM and the GHz, because of how sensitive to timing these things can be :)

@singletona082

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlyn__L I mean even if it can't do more than what it's doing here I'm still on board because that makes getting your feet into retro far simpler. Granted yo ucould argue 'why not just emulate the whole thing if you wanna retro since by the time you do an IDE to CF drive replacement, replace the mouse/keyboard, get an adaptor for a modern monitor and floppy emulation what is even original anymore' And... I get the argument. However giving folk options is always good in my eyes and while having a raspberry pi in an Apple IIGS themed case with an emulator that does the theoretical maximum possible Thing is neat? There is something t obe said for putting the original silicone to work.

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

@@singletona082 oh yeah, 100% agreed. There is an irony to using a system with more power than the host system to just do some translation, but I certainly don’t see it as a contradiction like some people do. And yeah, even if this is all it can do it’s very awesome, and it’d just be even more awesome if it could do some extra stuff on top. Of course bear in mind Bluetooth is already a whole addressable packet stack very much like networking, so adding WiFi could double the workload of the machine. But yeah it really depends on whether the speed of the Pi is necessary for lag-free operation, or whether it’s just an easily available part.

Gotta LOVE USPS... I have been known to cancel orders when I see a business is going to ship via the postal service. I don't like playing detective.

@bbuuii88

2 жыл бұрын

They lost my wii and found it.

Not gonna lie, Doom with a controller would've been more impressive if there weren't ports available on basically any console...

I was doing this over 15 years ago on xp with a program called xpadder. Look at how old it is. I used to use a soanar usb Bluetooth dongle via a ps/2 adapter for ps3 controllers. You could also use ps2 controllers with a usb adapter.

One of the reasons why I find retrocomputing vids fun to watch is because it makes me feel like a kid in the '90s/2000s again. But this one is a different kind of "fun to watch". It would be interesting to see my DS4, my go-to controller, work on older consoles and PCs. Hehe. I have a CronusMax Plus, but it's for 7th+-gen consoles and Windows 7+ PCs.

Great Video!

this looks so cool

Awesome! 😀

Sad I missed the giveaway lol, but super cool to see this is a thing for sure! 😁

Epic! :) Now, do a sequel, where you do on that on old gaming consoles like Nintendo 64! (With eg. Xbox One or Nintendo Switch controller)

My initial thought was that this was going to be similar to 8bitdo's Retro Receivers for NES, SNES and Mega Drive but it's clearly much more versatile than that. Really interested in this project now. I'm hoping this can also double as a storage device interface of some kind. Would be nice for stuff like the Amiga or old MacBooks with their weird proprietary ports. Edit; nah, that's clearly out of scope for what this is. The extendability might allow it though.

It looks sick^^

21:28 Yay... me watch this far hehe just good videos come from the MJD channel lol!

It was very common in KVM. There are some Aten KVMs that support using USB Keyboard/Mouse, and connect to different PCs of mixed USB / PS/2 combinations, but you need to pay for a premium for their proprietary KVM cables

This is amazing

Epic video i would want that if i had it

I recently played Tomb Raider 2013 on a controller and it was one of the first times I’ve played Tomb Raider style games on a controller, now I want to go back to Tomb Raider II and try it on my Windows 98 machine but use a modern console controller.

I can't believe that your Macintosh 128k computer is still working!

Coolest thing of retro ever see

Xbox Core controllers, the ones with the circle d-pad, have issues with bluetooth on Linux. From what I understand Microsoft changed up stuff with the new controller's bluetooth protocol that caused a lot of headaches for connecting to non devices that aren't supported by Microsoft. I managed to get it working on Linux after a lot of effort and using software created by the community to fix a issue created by Microsoft.

love your vids

I searched for "Roblox Valkyrie of the metaverse" why did I find this? 😂

It just works ~~ Todd Howard on inventing USB4VC

YOU HAVE A MAC SE!? THATS SO COOL!

@crudicle8407

2 жыл бұрын

wait i think thats a color classic SE if that was a thing

"You're a wizard, Harry"

Damn it RICK ROLLED

"The US Postal Service Sucks". Yes.

@_quoniam

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he's not wrong. And I agree with him

Amaazing.

Would totally watch you if you have a streamed games. The amount of Nintendo stuff you own alone that was me. We probably have a lot of similar tastes.

Dank Tunes

this is epic

I have several 486 and Pentium class computers, I can't wait to buy mine! (I'm hurting for money, I can't back it on Kickstarter)

This Video Is Pretty Good i Bet This Video Was Edited And it Took A Long Time

Bite Me. Love from Canada

Now I just need something that does the opposite. I found a great, early USB joystick called Raider Advanced FX that I'd love to use on Windows 10, but Googling it folks have issues even getting it to work on Windows 7! A big part of the issue is driver signing, so something that can act as an in between and map whatever is sent to XInput or whatever would be a god send.

I just need to plug a Mousestick II to my eMac but great product indeed!

The Xbox Series controller having issues reminds me of how Bloopair for Wii U didn't work with them

18:57 try side scrolling, that mouse has a feature where you can lean the scroll wheel left and right to side scrool. i want to see if it trys to shift+scrool. if it doesnt than that should be a feature

MAGIC

So ducky pad is an open source customisable stream deck.. Cool

I dont need a lot of the extra connectivity but Id be very interested in a smaller usb to gameport converter.

I think LGR already did a video on this. But still a cool product.

what? That is nice! If only my Windows 3.11 laptop supports it. Maybe my model is even supported, but idk.

Yo, that looks nice, I don't have a use to it, but, nice :p

me... not in america breuh....... but thanks for the offer anyways MJD!

My god! This is witchcraft in all the right reasons! So happy to finally see something like this come to light!

I mean you can already play Doom 2 with a switch controller on the switch itself! Though I guess it might not be quite the same old school PC experience.

Cool.

Had to go check and they really called it "duckyPad". Props to Ducky for not sending a cease and desist I guess.

damn I got that same Apple USB keyboard

Hey Michael!

Neat.

I'm curious, what is the "Quick Answers for your PC" desktop icon/program?

10:54 is it a Rick roll?

great video! no international giveaway for us :(

Prototype of the Apple Pipin be like: 19:41

I'm only now realizing I have an original model B pi, meaning I would need another one to use this device.

Wowe

I'd love to see more videos on fake MS products like the Office ones you did

I hope someday you do an international giveaway, because I'm living in Central Europe! 😞

I have that exact same keyboard! Imac g4 keyboard right? (The computers primary keyboard)

Now I can finally bring 2.5GbE to Windows 98!

But i'm a fan of The 8-bit guy, MJD and LGR!!!

Fun fact: old macintosh with mac os 9.2 supports new logitech wireless mouse

Can it support ms sidewinder force feedback?

1:20 Please go on a rant about that! Make a video about the USPS please!!!! 1:20

INFO: The Xbox One/Series controller bluetooth issue: I believe it could possibly be because of Bluetooth LE? I do know that ndeadly's MissionControl (a homebrew/sysmodule to allow 3rd party controllers to connect through Bluetooth on the Switch) has this issue with updated XB1 controllers (and XBSeries by extension), could be worth poking around them.

You installed NT4 on Mistery Pc

If your motherboard theoretically still had a Gameport connector, would doing the opposite and having an old controller plugged into a modern PC be feasable? Would Windows even detect it?

@goeland4585

2 жыл бұрын

Look up necroware on youtube, he made an adaptor to use old controllers on new computers ;)

Every time I read *XcQ* I know my time has come.

kinda insane

it’s cool izuku midoriya made something for you

That url is Rick Astley

Micheal you should make a video about wiilink24 and wiinet

So there is now two things the USA and the UK has in common, Slow postal service and rising fuel prices.

USPS still have Australia on the banned list for some reason!