Some American Christians are busy giving Israel money to build earthly houses instead of using that money to spread the gospel that can give eternal life. Interesting times indeed.

@sevenblessed2543

26 күн бұрын

They really believe God said to bless "the state" of Israel I think it's completely false

@missajimnig

11 күн бұрын

The promise to Abraham to bless is the singular, not plural. Therefore it wasn’t Abraham & his descendants. Oh and most modern day Israelis and Jews are not physical descendants of Abraham.

Something that can help substantiate this truth even further is the seventy-week prophecy of Daniel. That prophecy is pivotal in making the distinction already mention: the covenantal nation of Israel of the First Testament IS NOT the State of Israel post 1948.

FINALLY!!!! I’m so happy to hear the truth from you guys! The whole world has been deceived by the state of Israel. God bless you!!!

Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. (Romans 11:25, ESV) 4 For the children of Israel shall dwell many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or pillar, without ephod or household gods. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days. (Hosea 3:4-5, ESV) 22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, Thus says the Lord GOD: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations to which you came. 23 And I will vindicate the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, and which you have profaned among them. And the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Lord GOD, when through you I vindicate my holiness before their eyes. 24 I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land. (Ezekiel 36:22-24, ESV) 14 But Zion said, "The LORD has forsaken me; my Lord has forgotten me." 15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. (Isaiah 49:14-15, ESV) 9 With weeping they shall come, and with pleas for mercy I will lead them back, I will make them walk by brooks of water, in a straight path in which they shall not stumble, for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. 10 "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, and declare it in the coastlands far away; say, 'He who scattered Israel will gather him, and will keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock.' (Jeremiah 31:9-10, ESV) 4 "In those days and in that time, declares the LORD, the people of Israel and the people of Judah shall come together, weeping as they come, and they shall seek the LORD their God. 5 They shall ask the way to Zion, with faces turned toward it, saying, 'Come, let us join ourselves to the LORD in an everlasting covenant that will never be forgotten.' (Jeremiah 50:4-5, ESV) 11 "In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen and repair its breaches, and raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old, 12 that they may possess the remnant of Edom and all the nations who are called by my name," declares the LORD who does this. (Amos 9:11-12, ESV) 14 I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them," says the LORD your God. (Amos 9:14-15, ESV)

@Over-for-now

7 ай бұрын

Nighthawk Thank you for those verses showing God's WAYS and sovereignty and plans for the remnant of HIS chosen ones of Israel.

@whoobibi

7 ай бұрын

Yes, the Kingdom is coming, and all of God's promises, both those to national Israel and those to Christ's Body WILL be kept. The prophecies will be literally fulfilled.

@user-rw6op8yb9g

7 ай бұрын

All of that is true. Israel will experience revival at the end and will find their Messiah. But does this mean the modern state of Israel is a divine state?

@tomtemple69

6 ай бұрын

that is all talking about the Israel that is all believers of Jesus the ones who are Jews inwardly not outwardly

@tomtemple69

6 ай бұрын

@@whoobibi todays national israel is nothing like the biblical israel the Jews of today have mixed with all sorts of nations and people, and old testament Judaism doesn't exist

Well articulated my brothers!

This aligns with Scripture perfectly. Thank you for sharing.

The house of Israel consists of tribes that currently don't live in the nation state of Israel.

@Marlon__99

8 ай бұрын

Yup scriptures says they’ve been scattered right ?

@sevenblessed2543

26 күн бұрын

​@@Marlon__99through out the 4 corners of this earth!!

Well done

Thanks ❤

Thank you all for having the courage to say the truth.

@waitstill7091

8 ай бұрын

Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture, did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue. Jews today have retained their Semitic identity. This means if Christians want to become like Jesus, they should consider adopting the Semitic identity.

@Bombaycompany1776

5 ай бұрын

​@waitstill7091 the New Testament disagrees with everything you just said.

@waitstill7091

5 ай бұрын

@@Bombaycompany1776 Oh, you mean the religion of Christianity. Jesus instructed his followers to obey all the Pharisaic teachings. Today it's called Rabbinic Judaism. “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore ALL that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them." Matthew 23:2-3

@matthewsouthwell3500

Ай бұрын

​@@waitstill7091100% False. Mark 7 succinctly contradicts your false teaching.

@waitstill7091

Ай бұрын

@matthewsouthwell3500 In Mark 7, Jesus called the Pharisees out on what he perceived as hypocrisy. See verse 6. The gospels record Jesus following the Oral Torah. The Passover rituals, the rules on Sabbath observance, and the number of fringes on his garment are all Oral Torah.

Thank you guys for saying this

Evangelical Christian Zionists who believe in the pre-tribulation Rapture have criticized others who are post-tribulationalists, preterists, amillennialists, and postmillenialists for not correctly dividing the word of God yet they themselves don’t differentiate between ancient Israel and modern day Israel founded by the Jewish Rothschild family in 1948. The Old Testament verses about Israel being the apple of God’s eyes; pray for the peace of Jerusalem; he who blessed Abram will be blessed by God; etc., applied to ancient Israel but not to today’s Israel. What changed? After the Jews as a nation rejected the Son of God, judgment fell on Jerusalem and its Second Temple in 70 AD. Israel was no longer special and it ceased to exist from 70 AD until 1948. Modern day Israel only exists so Jesus can physically return to Jerusalem at the same location He ascended back to His Father (see Acts Chapter 2). At His return, only a remnant of Jews who survived the Antichrist’s Holocaust 2.0 will have their blindness lifted to see their true Messiah. They will weep uncontrollably as they see whom they pierced at Calvary in 30 AD.

Finally somebody understood it spiritually, I wish people would understand, its sad that most people don’t understand…..

When I told a friend basically what you said in this video, he said that doesn't explain why God supernaturally protects Israel today. I told him that the only reason God supernaturally does anything for modern Israel is because the church interceeds at all levels. Without Christians around the world, praying for Israel, I dare say Israel would not survive.

@James-oj8kq

2 ай бұрын

you don’t pray for palestinian christians as they are arabs?

@tankmacnamara3734

Ай бұрын

@@golde4unyc729 Apparently neither do you

You are right on about every word of what you have addressed on here! And Galatians 3 in it's proper context confirms this whole fact, especially when you observe verses 16 and 26-29 in that chapter. The more Christians I see saying what you have in short said about this on here, the more I appreciate it, since FAR too many people both Jew and Gentile have for far too long now been so mislead about and need to be convicted of the real truth surrounding the whole major Israel and Zionism issue. While you, Theocast, continue to do your homework in trying to be a light for truth, I was wondering if you are at all familiar with the rise of Darby and Scofield way back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and the Scofield Study Bible that followed. Because it turns out that these two people from their times and the study Bible that Scofield brought about played a major role in the advent of how this whole major not to mention even demonic deception surrounding Zionism came into existence.

@jamesellis1972

8 ай бұрын

I call it the Darby/Scofield Lie. No matter what good intentions they may have had, what they pushed on the modern church is heresy. This deception has cripled the church. Instead going out and conquering the world with the Gospel, the church now sits back and waits for a rescue mission.

@butbyeverywordofgod5635

2 ай бұрын

We are heirs according to promise of eternal life NOT the land! The land is for Israel. It very clear in Scripture.

@matthewsouthwell3500

Ай бұрын

​@@butbyeverywordofgod5635 Ezekiel 47:21-23 21“Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. 23And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

@matthewsouthwell3500

Ай бұрын

​@@butbyeverywordofgod5635Also regarding the "Seed," the apostle Paul states (accurately) that it is singular, and that it speaks of the Lord Jesus Christ. Galatians 3-4 go further into detail on this, referring to the promises, and therefore the inheritance, as being given to Abraham "and his Seed." This "hearkens" back to Genesis 15 (as well as 12-13, but primarily 15). 》 If you reread Genesis 15, a few things to notice is that: 1. The context is specifically centered around Abraham's heir, and this promise is truly fulfilled in Christ Jesus. 2. The discussion of the heir, and the promise regarding the heir, also includes Abraham's "seed" being as numerous as the stars of the sky, which Abraham is accounted righteous for believing. 3. This promise of his "seed" being as numerous as the stars of the sky is repeated in Romans 4, and is applied to believers in Christ Jesus, both Jew and Gentile. 4. The inheritance of the land is given here in Genesis 15, in the same context as Abraham's heir that was to come, and his "seed" that would be as numerous as the stars in the sky. 5. If Christ Jesus is the heir proper (and He is), and if the heir was promised the land (and I would hope you would not dispute Christ Jesus is the one who is truly entitled to that land), then one would have no basis for excluding those who are "joint-heirs with Christ" from the land promise. Though as mentioned in Hebrews 11-12, I believe we await a heavenly country, as did Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did before us; and many died in faith believing the promise without it being fully realized in their lifetime, who due to the faithfulness of God, are sure to still receive their reward.

Exactly

The book of Revelation shows Jewish people living in the promised land, Israel.

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

6 ай бұрын

May I ask where in Revelation it says that?

@inpursuitoftruth4905

6 ай бұрын

@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 Rev 7:1-8 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (2) And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, (3) Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. (4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. (5) Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. (6) Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. (7) Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. (8) Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. Zec 14:1-4 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. (2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (4) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Only one of so many prophesies still to happen. Why would the fulifillment of all these prophesies be centred on Israel and Jerusalem Zec 12:2-3 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. (3) And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Do you read the news?

@williamkunte5361

12 күн бұрын

​@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551😂

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

12 күн бұрын

@@williamkunte5361 So you don't know. I see.

Rome didn’t only flatten Israel, Jesus was saying the temple would be destroyed, and it happened 37 years after the ressurection, symbolically saying, our bodies are the temple, not a physical location. In Josephus war of the Jews, book 6 chapter 5 passage 3, he describes the whole world seeing angels fighting in the sky with chariots and encircling the city of Jerusalem. Also historian Tacitus in Histories, Book 5 passage 13 also says the whole world saw angels fighting in the sky. Indeed, not only did the Roman’s destroy the temple, the angels assisted them in doing so.

Spot on, good sirs!

Ezekiel 35:10 , Ezekiel 36:5, Revelation 2:9 KJVA

As an Israelite genetically and religiously I would say, that those that adopt Christ can’t just become a part of tribe of Israel, one is genetic and one is religious to become part of the tribe you need to marry someone from the tribe,an example is my grandfather and grandmother, my grandmother is a judean while my grandfather a Ukrainian, thus when my grandfather merry my grandmother he became an Israelite, you can be an Israelite religiously but you need to merry one to fully join the tribe

There are many unconditional promises yet to be fulfilled. I believe Israel is still special in the eyes of God. Jerusalem is God’s city forever. I will agree that Israel is different than the Old Testament but they are still part of God‘s plan.

@waitstill7091

8 ай бұрын

Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture, did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue. Jews today have retained their Semitic identity. This means if Christians want to become like Jesus, they should consider adopting the Semitic identity.

@verdedeleon82

8 ай бұрын

The Children of Israel, and the Nation State of Israel are two separate things.

@waitstill7091

8 ай бұрын

@@verdedeleon82 Can you prove it?

@verdedeleon82

8 ай бұрын

@waitstill7091 The Holy Books prove it. Dueteronomy 26, 28. Maccabees 3, Zephaniah 3 point to who the Children of Israel are and what they would endure and when The Most High will deliver. Revelation 2:9, 3:9, I am almost fully convinced is the nation state of Israel. Those who say they are Jews and lie, and are of the synagogue of Satan. You can't get to the Father but through YAHUSHA. A false prophet says YAHUSHA has not come in the flesh. They're about to open the third temple and restart animal sacrifices; abomination of desolation....

@SpotterVideo

7 ай бұрын

What city is now the Holy City that is our future Home? (Two Jerusalems?) Rev 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name. Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Where was Jesus crucified?) ================ Gal 4:25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- Gal 4:26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. ================ Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Heb 11:14 For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. Heb 11:15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them. ============== Heb 12:18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, (Mt. Sinai) Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. =============== Why did Jesus correct the woman at the well when she said earthly Jerusalem was the place to worship God in the passage below? Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship." Joh 4:21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. Joh 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. Joh 4:23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. Joh 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." ================ 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 2Pe 3:11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 2Pe 3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10, where Paul describes Christ returning “in flaming fire” taking vengeance on those who do not obey the Gospel.) .

Romans 11: 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree. 25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; 27 “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” 28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy. 32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.

It’s so sad!

Even if one believes there is a prophetic future for Israel distinct from the Church (which I don't), how does that justify equating a secular state under secular law with the Davidic Kingdom under the Law of Moses? Have compassion on the people, by all means. As we should have compassion for anyone suffering. But we do not have some Biblical mandate to intervene as Israel's protector, or endorse everything Netanyahu does. The rightness of their actions should be evaluated in the same manner we would evaluate any other nation's actions.

@Steblu74

8 ай бұрын

“How does that justify equating a secular state under secular law with the Davidic kingdom under the law of Moses?“ Why does it have to? Is the Davidic Kingdom here yet? Isn’t Christ the true son of David and Messiah the prince of the coming Davidic Kingdom? Yes, the current state of Israel is predominantly in unbelief exactly as it should be. How else will they accept the antichrist? For that matter it was their very unbelief in the wisdom of God that assured our salvation by offering up the Lamb of God for our sins. No one slaps God in the face or nails him naked to a pole without being blinded. We do not love Eretz Israel and its people because they are good or deserving, but because of the promises made to it and our elect Jewish brothers that are yet to be revealed there. The nation must largely remain in unbelief that the scripture might be fulfilled, where they will finally be converted on the last day spoken of in Zechariah 14. You are absolutely correct that we too have been grafted in to the people of God. Hallelujah! But as far as I am able to see, at least for now, everything taking place is just as I would expect it to be if the Bible were true. I’m not arguing with you brother, only saying that even our unbelief and sins work together for the good of those who are The called of God according to his purpose-

@oldschool5

8 ай бұрын

Its mythology that has been used to justify the taking of the lands of others. No one talks about how Joshua and Moses were instructed to kill babies to take the land of Canaan. We are being played.

@shawngillogly6873

8 ай бұрын

@@Steblu74 Because the covenant is a package. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Old Covenant apply and which do not. If Israel is getting Old Covenant promises apart from being fulfilled in Christ, then they MUST keep the Old Covenant as ordained by IT. Not by our theology. That means Monarchy. That means living under the Mosaic Law--including sacrifices. As Paul and the author of Hebrews both make perfectly, there is no "partial" keeping of the Old Covenant. You don't get the blessings without obedience. Full Stop.

@Steblu74

8 ай бұрын

@@shawngillogly6873 “if Israel is getting Old Covenant promises apart from being fulfilled in Christ..” I agree with you Shawn. The Mosaic Covenant is no more. What does Jesus mean in the following verse? “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28) Are these celestial, or “spiritual” thrones? Over a “spiritual” kingdom or people? Does Jesus return literally, PHYSICALLY, or did he come spiritually in 70 A.D.? When the prophets spoke of the future were they ignorant of the fact that the old covenant would no longer be in affect and that all of their “promises“ were NOT going to take place, i.e., that they were prophesying falsely? You seem to be advocating that there are no longer any “physical“ promises to the nation of Israel. If by that you mean that there are no more promises to those people UNDER THE MOSAIC COVENANT I agree! But the god that promised the dirt of Eretz Israel to the descendants of Abraham through Isaac BEFORE THE LAW is the SAME God who justifies the righteous by faith under the new covenant. I join you heartily in condemning righteousness under the law for both Jew and Gentile. Our differences seem to lie in the fact that you see prophecy as completed, whereas I do not. Do you view the words of the OT prophets as contingent then, or abrogated by the failures of the Jews? I am not a Preterist. I guess you could call me a Historicist, as I view the promises of God to be played out in time and space on planet earth. Literally. It seems to me that unless you are going to “spiritualize” prophecy into oblivion and meaninglessness, Preterism is a failure. But then, neither you nor I are going to be saved by theology, obedience or intellect. We are saved by a PERSON who loved and gave himself for us. If we are trying to understand life and salvation it is impossible to repress the desire to have all our theological ducks in a row. I am 72 and still learning… thank God I don’t have to have it all together. God bless you sir-

@whoobibi

7 ай бұрын

That's a strawman. Nobody associates the current State of Israel with the future Davidic Kingdom where Christ will rule and reign for 1000 years.

Jer 31:35-36 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: (36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Does the sun still rise where you guys live? I hope so!

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

6 ай бұрын

If you read the preceding verses in Jer. 31:31-34 you will see where the new covenant is spoken of. Then in Hebrews 8:6-13 you read about the fulfillment of that promise. Christ is the fulfillment of the new covenant promised to Israel. There is no more Israel as a nation, only believers are the true Israel. See Romans 2:28, 29

@inpursuitoftruth4905

6 ай бұрын

@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 Rom 11:25-29 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. (28) As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. (29) For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Look on the map and you will see a nation called ISRAEL. That is, the Jews, which God promise in umpteen prophesies to bring back to the land He gave them. Note: The land He gave them - and it is in this context that it is stated "the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Perhaps we need to remind ourselves that God is faithful to His promises and cannot go back on them. Also, note verse 26 ....'and shall turn away godliness from JACOB. Who is JACOB? Certainly not gentile believers (Us). Do you believe in the faithfulness of God to do what He promises to do? I hope so! Not just to you, but to the Jews as well! There are so many specific prophesies about the return of the Jews to the PROMISED land that have been fulfilled, that it is mind boggling. Seeing that God has fulfilled a great portion of the prophecies, thus far, it is even more certain He will fulfilled the rest, as Paul says: all Israel will be saved when the delivery comes out of Zion - The second coming of Christ. Zec 12:10-14 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (11) In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. (12) And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; (13) The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; (14) All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart. Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

6 ай бұрын

@@inpursuitoftruth4905 Yes, I believe the promises of God. God is always faithful. He promised many things to Israel and He has kept them all. After doing some more study about Israel I have come to understand the difference in the the old covenant and the new covenant. Dispensationalists do not recognize the difference and think the new covenant is yet future, but it has already been fulfilled as I said above And God did give them all the land as He promised, see Joshua 21. They were a disobedient people (other than the elect remnant) throughout their entire history. When Christ came and they rejected Him (as a whole, not the elect remnant) that was the final breaking of the covenant He had made with them. He warned in Matthew 23:37, 38 Jesus warned them of the coming desolation of Jerusalem and the temple, which he goes into great detail explaining in Matthew 24. The fulfillment of that was in 70 AD. So Jerusalem was destroyed and many thousands were killed in very brutal ways by the Roman armies, and the rest were scattered, driven out. The elect remnant got out because Jesus had forewarned them to flee. Ever since the new covenant was put in place, people from all nations are being grafted in. The gospel was preached first to the Jews, and then to the Gentiles, in fulfillment of Genesis 12:3; 18:18; 22:18; 26:4, Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28:18-20. Of course Jews can still be saved today, just not as a nation or because of their ethnicity. The ones that do get grafted back in are the remainder of the elect remnant. That nation in the middle east is not a fulfillment of prophecy. That is the result of a political Zionist movement. There's a whole history of how it came to be, starting in the early 1800s. So that's all I will say for now as this is getting pretty lengthy. God bless your studies into these wonderful truths.

God said they would be restored in unbelief. Thats what we see. they're in pitiful unbelief.--That doesn't nullify Gods covenant. It doesn't revert to the Church, or some algorithm logic you want to apply.

@matthewsouthwell3500

26 күн бұрын

Where does the Scripture state this?

Israel is the 12 or so tribes?

Strongs concordance has the answer to who Israel is. Yes it was Jacob and his descendants. Spiritually it means Christ and his believers. Galatians 3:29 says those who are in Christ are the heirs to the promise. So no it’s not them over there.

@whoobibi

7 ай бұрын

They are NATIONAL Israel. Israel after the flesh is in unbelieve for our benefit and for His purposes. But they will all be brought to belief in the time of Jacob's trouble. In the meantime, the restoration of national Israel in unbelief is a sign to all the nations, and to Christ's congregation, that God keeps his promises, and the remaining time is short.

@ricoyochanan

5 ай бұрын

Just remember, God is a Zionist: Jer 30:17 For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.

I listened to this piece; You failed to point out the difference between Israel and Judah. Speaking of them as one, is a major error that leads to other erroneous doctrines

To know the truth that many knows but are ignorant is the parable of wheat and weeds... as we are not made by one God.. others are made by the devil those who came last.. and the only way for them to see salvation is to see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts... if they will ever be part of The Kingdom, Woe unto those that say they are Jews and lie, but are the synagogue of satan.. if cannot identify those including the ones the True Christ calls dogs and gentiles, that He emphasized that even the good news about The Kingdom should not be preached to them, as He is only sent to The Lost Sheep, not the wolves, who are now church leaders.. let the blind lead the blind...

AND IF YE BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YE ABERHAMS SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE. " " its not complicated if you read your Bible....

He made a covenant with Abraham for eternity. Who do you think the 144,000 from the tribes are? They are meant for Israel. I look to God and see his faithfulness by looking at His chosen.

@Over-for-now

7 ай бұрын

AMEN

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

7 ай бұрын

Galatians 3:6-8 "Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed." That is the fulfillment of the covenant God made with Abraham.

@tomtemple69

6 ай бұрын

Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the KZread video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

6 ай бұрын

@@tomtemple69 EXCELLENT! Now to get the dispensationalists to actually READ this!

@tomtemple69

6 ай бұрын

@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 now that is asking too much of them lol they don't read anything except their end times charts and Left Behind books lol

Agreed. But what colossal coincidence is it that there even still exists a Jew today or that they've been placed back in the land as Jews? That should be your part 2 to this. THAT people is what I believe Jesus was referring to in Matt. 23:39 at the end of the age - When He returns.

@LeslieJones817

8 ай бұрын

We are Jews inwardly, the Bible says.

@maximusralte777

8 ай бұрын

​I agree with you. There is a difference between the spiritual israel and the physical Israel. Replacement theology is not quite right.

@shawngillogly6873

8 ай бұрын

​@maximusralte4854 That's because Replacement Theology is a slur that doesn't understand what is actually being said. The nation currently called Israel does not have a Davidic Monarch. It does not keep the Mosaic Covenant. It is a secular state. Not a Theocracy. Therefore, it has no claim to promises made dependant on keeping those covenants. Jesus is the True Israel. And the true rest in the land. And the Last Davidic Monarch. The purpose of all the covenants was to reveal Him.

@waitstill7091

8 ай бұрын

Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture, did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue. Jews today have retained their Semitic identity. This means if Christians want to become like Jesus, they should consider adopting the Semitic identity.

@LeslieJones817

8 ай бұрын

@@waitstill7091 That is absolutely against what the Bible says.

The modern state of Israel is not the same of the old testament true, but the natural branches of Romans 11 have never ceased to exist. The burden of proof is on one to show when they ceased to exist. Saying they (Romans 11 covenant people) ceased to exist at the fall of Rome would be ironically a hyper dispensation,Ad 70ish ism. Completely subjective at best and totally laughable at worst.

@shawngillogly6873

8 ай бұрын

He is saying the NATION ceased to exist with the Destruction of the Temple, which put an end to any ability to follow the Old Covenant as written. ALL people are now blessed through Christ. There is One people of God. We are all In Christ or In Adam. There is no 3rd state. And all the blessings of the nation Israel are now fulfilled in Christ, the One Davidic King, who will rule over Israel--and more than Israel. The purpose of every covenant was to look forward to Christ. They are all, from Creation to David, fulfilled in Him. "Natural Branches" must be saved by faith in Him the same as anyone else. Or they remain pruned. And when grafted back in, they are brought into the One People of God. Which progressively widened from 1 family, to one nation, and then to all nations. As He promised.

@darrenplies9034

8 ай бұрын

@@shawngillogly6873 When was the fullness of the gentiles fulfilled in Romans 11 ? And reminder John MacArthur is pre-trib and pre-mill, and not alone

**I am _not_ a dispensationalist. However, the problem with covenantalism/"replacement" theology is that it requires us to _allegorize_ chunks of prophetic Scripture that tell of God's plans for _national/ethnic_ Israel in the End-time. That's an invalid handling of Scripture.

@tomtemple69

6 ай бұрын

"replacement theology" is a ridiculous made up dispy term its expansion theology, the tree of Israel has been expanded to include the believers of all nations, the unbelievers of Israel were cut off and they are no longer israel a believer is more Jew than a "jewish" nonbeliever

@Bombaycompany1776

5 ай бұрын

You sure sound like a dispensationalist..

@andyderksen8455

5 ай бұрын

@@Bombaycompany1776 So only dispensationalists are concerned with accurately interpreting OT prophecies in their original context?

@Bombaycompany1776

5 ай бұрын

@andyderksen8455 then they ignore when New Testament authors, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit interpret, give us the interpretation.

@Bombaycompany1776

5 ай бұрын

@@andyderksen8455 ..also, literal does not necessarily mean physical. Spiritual things are literal.

"Replacement Theology" is straight out of hell! Rom.11:26 Israel will accept Christ!!!

@Pasture_Prime

8 ай бұрын

as the Prophet Prophesied Isaiah 45:20-23: ’Assemble and come, approach together, you survivors of the nations; those who carry their graven wooden image and pray to a god who does not save, do not know. Declare and present, let them even take counsel together; who announced this from before, [who] declared it from then? Is it not I, 'ה, and there are no other gods besides Me, a just and saving God there is not besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, for I am God, and there is no other. By Myself I swore, righteousness emanated from My mouth, a word, and it shall not be retracted, that to Me shall every knee kneel, every tongue shall swear.”

@SpotterVideo

7 ай бұрын

Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the KZread video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel. .

@EverlastingLife-pl9ug

7 ай бұрын

@@SpotterVideo I'm not a dispensationalist. "All Israel will be saved." Rom.11:26 They will accept Christ as their Messiah.

@SpotterVideo

7 ай бұрын

@@EverlastingLife-pl9ug Paul never said what you are saying, because you left out one important word which changes the meaning of Romans 11:26. Romans 9:27 says a "remnant" will be saved. The proof is found below. Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.

@charltonrowe4161

7 ай бұрын

@@EverlastingLife-pl9ugAll that effort put into his comment and then you come back and tell him he’s barking up the wrong tree. 😂

Abraham it the Father of many Nations, not just Israel.

JESUS is the True Israel, and ALL that are HIS

Old testament Israel is mythological isnt it?

Thus saith Theocast, "That nation ceased to be when Rome flattened it." But what does Scripture say? Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. I saw the stars and moon last night and the sun is shining today. There are 15 million Jews in the world and half of them are located in the Nation of Israel, with more returning to their ancient homeland as world persecution against the Jews is on the rise.

@zarAK471

4 ай бұрын

Who is doing the persecution?

@ricoyochanan

4 ай бұрын

​@@zarAK471Every nation on earth.

@zarAK471

4 ай бұрын

@@ricoyochanan how?

@ricoyochanan

4 ай бұрын

​@@zarAK471Watch the news.

@ricoyochanan

Ай бұрын

@@zarAK471 Turn on the news.

If someday Jews accept Jesus, its only as him as a messenger, prophet or king, not God.

Christians should actually be in Israel . Isreal are believers in Christ

So, according to revelation 7, which tribe are you? Your postulates are foolishness.

Such ignorance of scripture. Israel did not cease to be. Israel was merely displaced and scattered in 70 AD. The people who returned in 1948 were not of those who were scattered. Those people were essentially european proselytes or converts.

The promise was only to the seed who was Jesus . Ie it ended after Christ

The CHurch has always been Israel. If the Jews acepted their Messiah, they'd still be a part of Israel.

@waitstill7091

8 ай бұрын

Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture, did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue. Jews today have retained their Semitic identity. This means if Christians want to become like Jesus, they should consider adopting the Semitic identity.

@de5ertscorpion

7 ай бұрын

Right! Christianity is just Judaism completed or Judaism fulfilled. Jesus Christ fulfilled it! Thousands of Jews accepted Christ in his time while hundreds of thousands rejected Him. They were of their father, the devil, when Christ arrived - they weren't in the faith. That's why they didn't recognize Messiah. They were imposters in their own land. And the principle of the remnant continued.

@waitstill7091

7 ай бұрын

@@de5ertscorpion Judaism is the religion of Torah observant Jews. Jesus did not come to annul the commandments and abolish his own religion. “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven...." Matthew 5:19 In verse 17, the word 'fulfill" meant Jesus believed he could fulfill the role of Messiah as described in the law and prophets. "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17 Of course, we do not live in the Messianic age, which means Jesus did not fulfill the role. Another words, Jesus was not the Messiah.

@de5ertscorpion

7 ай бұрын

@@waitstill7091 I think you need to read the book of Hebrews. God dismantles your faith in the law and being semitic. You've misunderstood the whole Torah. We Christians, here, have absolute peace with our savior - The Savior. If you're waiting for someone else or trusting in your own righteousness then you're doomed. Jesus said that it will go better for Sodom and Gomorrah than for those who reject him, and that Ninevah in Jonah's time will stand up and judge those who reject Him.

@Steblu74

7 ай бұрын

not read in the parable of the workers how everyone including those who went to work in the last 15 minutes of the day got the same pay? In Zechariah 14 the remnant of the inhabitants of Jerusalem “shall look upon me whom they have pierced“ and shall come to Faith in Christ after national repentance, and shall receive the same “pay“ as those workers who “bore the heat of the day“. When people say that the current state of Israel is irrelevant or that the church has “replaced” Israel, I don’t understand what they mean. What can possibly be more plainly stated than this? “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.” (Romans 11:11) “But rather through THEIR fall..” WHOSE FALL? The Jews of course in their crucifixion of Christ. To this day did Jews are still provoked by jealousy of the gentile God seekers. Jeremiah 31 speaks of a new covenant of course “not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I brought them out of the land of Egypt“, which of course is the covenant that brings our salvation through Christ. Ephesians 2 goes into great detail telling gentiles how they are built upon the foundation of the apostles (Jewish) and prophets (Jewish) and now share in the actual commonwealth of Israel. The State of Israel is now the focal point of all the world. Why? If the current state of Israel is irrelevant or “an imposter“, why all the fuss? We must be careful that we do not “boast against the branches“ for it is the “branches“ who bear us gentiles and not we who bear them-

Are these guys 5 years old, quoting from a harry potter book for adults.

There are no Hebrews in Israel.

Who are the Israel of God? There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29} For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, *which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart in the spirit* and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. {Romans 2:28-29} Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ* For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace; And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby* And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God; [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun] {Ephesians 2:11-19} Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. {Acts 10:34-35} Again... But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. {Romans 2:10-11} Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed. {Romans 9:6-8} Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. {Galatians 4:28-29} For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon *the Israel of God* {Galatians 6:15-16} And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again* {Romans 11:23} For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus* For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. {Galatians 3:26-27}

At no time did god denying Israelis enter the land

This is ABSOLUTELY FALSE.

The new covenant is the Eucharist. What are you "covenant theologians" doing?

@Over-for-now

7 ай бұрын

So wrong

There are ONLY 2 men in this world, U R either of the FRIST Adam, or the LAST Adam!! there is NO separate people called ISREAL as a race in the Kingdom of GOD. If there was NO FALL then there is NO Israel. Christ is the Pattern, after Their image, That is the Eternal purpose of God and the GOSPEL of the Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus preached.

Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture, did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue. Jews today have retained their Semitic identity. This means if Christians want to become like Jesus, they should consider adopting the Semitic identity.

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

7 ай бұрын

What is your religion? I've never seen it before.

@waitstill7091

7 ай бұрын

@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551 It's called deprogramming.

@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551

7 ай бұрын

@@waitstill7091 I've never heard of that religion, as I said. Must be something new.

@matthewsouthwell3500

Ай бұрын

It's not what Christ or His apostles taught, that's for sure. ​@@SavedByTheBloodOfChrist551