Massive shout out to Osirion.gg on Twitter for helping me with a bunch of stats for this video! Go give them a follow! My full meta analysis from the first in person LAN event will be dropping early next week, it's a banger!

@MiniStreeksYT

11 ай бұрын

Hey reisshub, what is your rank?

@Teqz_-

11 ай бұрын

Reiss your vids are the best ❤

@Biggaboo

11 ай бұрын

Already follow them

@Zel-Veraan

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! Thank you guys so much for presenting this information. That said, I'll still be using the Havoc Suppressed AR.

@Rain-xo7pj

10 ай бұрын

MK alpha is significantly better

Personally I'm running the MK as an AR and the Flapjack as a heavy SMG, it's been working well for me.

@movimikey

11 ай бұрын

I was doing that but look at the pull out times... the flapjack is waaaaaaay slower

@xenai.

11 ай бұрын

A game I did earlier I was doing that exact thing. If you can get decent medium ammo, it's actually pretty nice combo ^reply above is true though

@NiciDaGamer

11 ай бұрын

That’s silly

@quagsire2007

11 ай бұрын

Same.

@Zel-Veraan

11 ай бұрын

How's the ammo economy panning out?

I love how they are actually adding variety to the lootpool, i really dont like only having 1 viable option for every weapon class

Btw if you move backwards while aiming downsight with the mk all the recoil you got will be replaced by your perspective moving down. So the recoil will basically be in balance and youll get 0 recoil.

@iyreal

11 ай бұрын

really?

@miewwcubing2570

11 ай бұрын

Yes

@Grippyreaper115

11 ай бұрын

​@@miewwcubing2570it'll prolly be patched tonight

@miewwcubing2570

11 ай бұрын

@@Grippyreaper115 not so sure about that, its not really a glitch its just logic. Just think of it Picture yourself aiming at a mountain If you walk backwards your vision will focus lower and lower on the mountain and depending on how far away youre aiming at, youll have almosthing none to actually no recoil especially with this weapon

@Grippyreaper115

11 ай бұрын

@@miewwcubing2570 ahh okay :)

Love this guy

@jsroad

11 ай бұрын

​@@WTJCJFitMC

@jedh116

11 ай бұрын

love you to

@carolinevanvugt2007

11 ай бұрын

Me too

@BMC_milklover911

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I love his vids

The MK is the best long range weapon, it will be very popular in surge lobbies, though I think most good players will prefer to drop it late game in favour of the Flapjack, Pistol or SMG. However, I'm still trying to work out what I should use as my close range spray weapon. If I'm primarily build & box fighting, the MK is usable but not great. The pistol & Flapjack deal roughly the same damage, the pistol having less recoil & more headshot damage, the Flapjack dealing more build damage. I might need to test the bloom & damage drop off but at this point, I might pick based on rarity. Compared to the SMGs though? I'm not sure the regular SMG is good enough up close to choose over either the pistol or the flapjack. The current combat SMG is almost as strong as the Twin Mag in raw DPS(a shadow of its former self) but I'm not sure the recoil is worth it, I play at 66eDPI & keep running outta deskspace- though now that I think of it, the trick was to aim low & let the recoil do the work- I'll have to test that too I suppose.

@nashlutt16

11 ай бұрын

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If the Havoc Suppressed AR was replaced with the Standard AR, then I think this would be the best AR loot pool we've had in a long time

@Leafynova

11 ай бұрын

Like way to miss the 70s vibes, fortnite.

@dylanjoven4935

11 ай бұрын

@@Leafynovagood one buddy

@zsideswapper6718

10 ай бұрын

Normal AR has horrible bloom/spread and first shot accuracy reset and they never updated it.

@zsideswapper6718

10 ай бұрын

They should buff the Havoc's damage by 3 all rarities to make it stand a chance.

@bearbear8975

10 ай бұрын

I think it all depends on what you like, me personally, I like the havoc suppressed just because it has been fine in short to long ranges. I do agree with the long range with the havoc suppressed is really bad. It wasn't meant for really long ranges. Overall, the havoc suppressed is a decent AR to use.

Man i was about to ask what pro the background footage was. Lookin good out there Reiss

Clean video love the small details and fx while also just bieng informative

Thanks bro for letting us know. I prefer playing with both the flapjack and mk alpha because I like sometimes w-key and prefer tagging and getting cheeky shots form long distances.

Thank you for the easy-to-understand explanation!

I’m rocking with the MK solely based off of consistency. When i use the Flapjack in creative it feels like it’s almost cheating, but when I’m in game i will miss almost every shot in the clip with the flapjack at close and mid range. The MK hits crazy accurately in game and in creative equally

im loving these clean transitions !!

YESSS I WAS WAITING FOR THE NEXT REISSHUB VIDEO I LOVE UR CONTENT💖💖💖💖

As a controller player, the extra zoom on the mk just makes surge tags so much easier. Just like any weapon with a red dot/extra zoom. So for me the mk is best

I feel like the pistol should have definitely been used in this video as well since it’s a really good smg and mid range gun. Where do you think the pistol would be reisshub?

I use both of them sometimes with a drum shotgun or a thermal dmr. However I would preferably use the combat SMG with the drum shotty and a mk7 as a finisher.

I got a question what’s better havoc maven or drum gun for both zb and builds because in builds I always seem to get sprayed from sprayers with drum shotguns and in zb I usually use maven but recently I’ve been getting sprayed by the drum shoggun

I've actually rarely used assault rifles this season-- as the explosive repeater has been my go-to option. It does pretty much everything that a AR can do, and with more perks. Its insane reload speed allows you to constantly be firing (if you have the heavy ammo required to do so), and the aoe (Area of Effect) makes up for the lack of any zoom when aiming down sights, as well as being dead accurate when aiming, and also being accurate enough to rely on the aoe to hit consistently while not firing. I seriously couldn't recommend giving them a shot more, you can get one almost guaranteed from vaults.

@randomstuff9901

10 ай бұрын

I see your point but I stopped using it because of the mammoth pistol

@The_Divine_Appliance

10 ай бұрын

@@randomstuff9901 yeah, thats fair, and since they both use heavy ammo (which is hard to come by) I love using mammoth, but also i made that comment before mammoth was in the game lol i agree though

Ngl I’ve started going double AR this season. Mk, flapjack/combat smg, pump, utility (and that could be bunker, thermal fish, sniper, cannon, boomerang, or extra heal), heals.

i use both. MK is a a beam, flapjack is a great backup when you run out of MK ammo and works well with the Pump If you are like me and get them 1 shot with the MK, the Flapjack will finish them off easy. Ive learned Maven is not meta anymore woth the drum gun unless you can handle the pure pressure that thing puts on you. The cannon would be good if it destroyed buildings in 1 shot instead of 2 OR it recharges faster to compensate. SMGs are kina irrelevant atm with the exception of the Run n Gun SMG, as it provides infinite stamina and it reloads while running, its really good movement tech while swords are out. Boomerang is just not good 60 dmg is kinda weak. As for movement currently, rifts in jungle statues, augments for slap effect and rails its decent to move around. The superbikes are still there so rotating most of the time just requires that, the mud is amazing if you slide cancel, you can get so much speed. Pair it with the the Run n Gun SMG and you are zooming across the map. Imo the Meta loadout is MK, Pump, Flapjack, Bunkers/Heals, and Slurps/Slaps.

@bobafett4457

11 ай бұрын

Yeah man the P90 with mud and the "jumping extra far with no fall damage" perk is so good

@tearsofIink

10 ай бұрын

tbh sometimes i do a double pump technique ( still has cooldown ) i usually user sharp tooth ( highest rarity you can find ) and pair it with an exotic maven , when the floating island spawns i drop the sharp tooth or the maven and replace it with the mythic drum gun

@CrxzyYT

10 ай бұрын

@@tearsofIink double pump is kinda trash unless you are doing like pump, explosive rifle. Thats a decent double pump. Im not a big fan of the sharp tooth shotty idky it just doesn’t feel right. The Exotic maven is lowkey better than mythic drum imo just for its extra range. Ig it depends on what type of player you are.

@bobafett4457

10 ай бұрын

@@CrxzyYT double pumping with the explosive rifle is incredibly effective

In terms of reliable aim for long range the MK Alpha is the winner But as far as the flapjack it's only good as a close range weapon to finish of other players

I’m gonna be honest I use neither of these, I love the havoc AR and I think it’s heavily underrated.

@switcher_7678

4 ай бұрын

Same it just feels great to use

Im using the havoc, with the flapjack for medium ranges and like an smg , and the mk alpha for medium to long ranges

i usually use flapjack as a spray weapon (like a smg) if my shotgun is out of ammo or im destroying trees/rocks and i use mk-alpha to laser people

Ur videos are some of the best and highest quality on the platform

That transition around the 3 minute mark is elite.

Next you should do the best competitive loadout

It really just depends on personal choice, game style and game modes

Can U do A Comparison Of Havoc And FlapJack?, btw good video!

If you think abt it the gold variant for the flapjack is basically a tweaked version of midas drum gun 🤔

you are my goat keep it up

reisshub i love you for this

Now imagine the flapjack with the medium ammo amp perk if it was still in the game

honestly im just carrying both with either triple heal or with a shotgun or the cannon

i run either, is top running mags because both have great or ok hip fire and the flapjack is still good at range if u tap fire or burst cus the crosshairs has little bloom when tapping and no sprea

@Lil_GroceryBag

11 ай бұрын

*stopped running smgs

@Lil_GroceryBag

11 ай бұрын

and bloom

As a zero build player I always use the first person guns when they are in game but I’ll run flapjack when I wanna snipe

i used to main the havoc ar back in season 2 but because i didnt really like the red eye

I’m an MK guy on controller but Ima pick up the flapjack more now n try to get good w it

Can you do a drum shot gun vs havoc pump

I would only carry havoc ar if I can’t find a smg and even then I would carry a different ar as a ar for mid to long range

Keep making this

I dropped my SMG so I can run the Mythic Flapjack when I can get it as that slot along with a heavy sniper.

personally i use thermal DMR and combat SMG. tho with the mammoth i'll have to see

“Both” has been my answer this season. No mobility means 3 weapon slots are viable. Since smgs are relatively weak at the moment, I’m running the flapjack as my smg

what about the thermal dmr?

Speaking from experience, if you have good aim the MK is extremely powerful. Absolutely broken when it comes to long range

This accuracy comparison seemed reminiscent of Flamm.

So they decided to add a LITERAL Lewis gun to the game? What next? Madsen? Maxim 08?

Another banger video

Im torn between both. Beginning of the season i wouldve said the MK. Nearing the end of the season I find myself riding out with the flapjack. Sometimes I sub the smg out and put the flap jack in its place.

Like to see how much you’ve improved

The thermal DMR is my favourite, its so good at medium to long range and i find the thermal very useful

@0sm0

8 ай бұрын

Its not hitscan so its kinda trash but you do you

I like how the havoc was ignored

I Love The flapjack as a smg it does heaps of damage and you can't miss when the player in your face and the MK as a AR

Im trying to prepare for a cash cup and my duo prefers the havoc AR and refuses to use slurp juice because “epic ruined it because its not like how it used to be” 😭

best fn vid as always!!!!!

At like since MK was released, i mained MK, but now since like 1-2 weeks ago i main flapjack, flapjack feels better in long range and short range (argue if u want) and also this is what i main as my loadout: Slot 1: Flapjack Slot 2: Havoc Pump Slot 3: SMG (not combat) Slot 4: Heals Slot 5: Heals / if theres mobility then that goes here. Edit: He said that if im someone who just w-keys and likes box fights, well yes, yes i am, it’s prob why i like flapjack more.

I really like havoc suppressed and both mk so it should’ve been havoc vs mk for me+in controller

Best Scottish content creator out there❤

I say it's best to carry a flapjack for most situations and then a dmr for long range

i play an aggressive mid to long range game and run-- AR, SMG, shotgun so the mk suits my playstyle

you can probably just put the mk as an ar and the flapjack as an smg making it easier the spam and hit accurately

i just take both assault rifles because the flapjack rifle has less recoil than an smg, so i use it as an smg and i use the mk-alpha as a long range rifle

Hey does anybody know why the Fortnite ranked Server are so lagging ( for me and my freind at least). When I see the pros or conten creator play they have no problems. Btw my PC shoudlnt be the problem ( I have an 3060 TI and a Ryzen 5 5600X). Is there a fix?

Btw if y’all didn’t know you can flick your mouse down and up quickly to get zero recoil on the combat smg.

I use Combat Smg, Havoc Shotgun, MK Alpha (Long Range), Flare gun, and heals. Works out for me

how do you have that style for seeker?

I like to run combat smg with a pump and triple heals or drop a heal for the transformers bazooka thing

I wonder which of the mythic mk7 and overclocked pulse is better

@0sm0

8 ай бұрын

Mk7

really tense debate

I guess I'm the only person who mains havoc suppressed over the other ar's. I feel its the best

Thank you.

The flapjack is great but i personally prefer the MK Alpha, its my favorite weapon in the game, the Drum & Maven Auto Shotgun

As a controller player and a pc player, I have never complained about guns being too hard to use. But the flapjack is just not good in the hands of controllers. It has way too much recoil even from like ten feet. Everytime I’ve used it in unreal lobbies I have died. Easily going mk, pistol or smg

@onewaytfamily4840

11 ай бұрын

The initial jump in the beginning

Imo the mk-alpha is the winner for spraying people above 15 meters And then flapjack is closer like the smg but more consistent damage at closer range of 20meters Yeah my thingy is dumb but depends which rarity and the positioning I would honestly take the flap jack in a more open area then the jungle but then the mk-alpha and hide in the tree-

Now in chapter 4 season 4 the havoc suppressed rifle is soooo op

reiss, what's it like being a living, breathing W

3 heals or combat smg?

i use flapjack and mk alpha because flapjack is good for close range and mk alpha for long and medium range it works pretty well.

Flapjack is for like tourney endgames and for tags

Bro the flapjack recoil is like gunner smg level on controller. Controller players have to either get used to it or carry the mk or havoc

Probably not but some pros might use the HAVOC AR because it’s better at long range than the MK or the flapjack

i use the mk cuz i don’t need the flapjack, i just use the combat as my close range spray weapon instead of a flapjack

I'm not a big mk person. Frankly i like to shoot my enemies from long distance. And the red eye did just that😭. I felt like they could've just add a new AR. Or add a scope to an old weapon. Like the heavy AR. Slap a scope on it and it probably would be the best ar

best way to play it is having one player carry an mk alpha with all the Medium ammo and the other player carrying a combat SMG with all the Small ammo. Would create insane advantage in mid-game encounters

@therealloganyt237

11 ай бұрын

Depends on skill too.

@dashingcool5090

11 ай бұрын

personally id replace the combat smg with a mythic pistol, the spread is crazy small with good damage, fire rate and respectable range in comparison to the combat

@jaylenn.9202

11 ай бұрын

@@dashingcool5090 for sure. the mythic pistol is a must have whenever you can pull the right enchancements

Fortnite needs to add back siphon and remove those OP AI’s from ranked and kinda rework it a little bit because i feel like it needs something

I only play Zero Builds, but both weapons feel good and I think it will be down to preference.

@user-sy3jt8dy2p

11 ай бұрын

Zero build is a fat w

Mk-alpha early game and flapjack late game 👌

Thermal dmr, havoc shotgun, smg with 2 heals is the meta

I generally run the mk as an ar and the flapjak as an smg

Mk-7 was BROKEN. It was super op, because you could use it to BEAM players at long distances or simply use it as an SMG, making it so you could use a 2-gun loadout which was unoptimal but still useful in some instances. I think epic noticed this and kinda split the two. Mk-alpha was great for an ar but didn’t have the smg capabilities, while the flapjack exeeded in those close encounters as well as doing great in mid-range. The havoc was only good if you were tryna conserve ammo let’s be real.

for comp i think some people will carry both but i would carry a mk for first 7 zoness look for a refresh and then pick up a flapjack

@TheChristopherJack

11 ай бұрын

At that point, it might pay to pick up a Combat SMG if you're good enough for surge lobbies.

@DidntGhost

11 ай бұрын

True

I will try that

do havoc pump VS drum

my loadout: havoc pump, mk alpha, heals, heals, heals / shockwaves.

I play lots of face to face combat and mainly no build so personaly ill stick with the flapjack

To me the flapjack feels like the tac ar. Not good at super long range, great at medium range and pretty good at close range.

@Oktav99a

11 ай бұрын

I just pretend its a drum gun

For me I am a kbm player and I take the flapjack while I don’t play aggressive

Still haven't decided but leaning mk