Hi Marshall, I installed Auto Mate Pro this afternoon in my NW Paj. All went well, your instructions are excellent. Ultragauge should be here tomorrow, so I can see what's going on. Now to hook up the van and do some testing . Cheers.

@mm4x492

Ай бұрын

Sorry we missed this comment from last year. Hopefully you're delighted with how the kit keeps transmission temperatues in check.

hi, brilliant product I wish it would be available for the NS Pajero. I hope this version will come in the future

what a great unit. thanks.

@mm4x492

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris! We are very proud of the products we have developed and the feedback, like yours, that we regularly receive from our customers.

Just bought a NW platinum - will be getting this, and Idrive and maybe a de-sooting done with a full service. Amazing product, mitsi has built a well proper foundation for you to code in this amazing feature.

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. Yes, being their flagship model they put a lot of detail into the CANBus technology which allows the features we've incoroprated into the products. The latest firmware now incorporates the SafeLock feature, which ensures the torque converter is not locked under high slip conditions, thus preventing excessive wear for maximum clutch reliability and longevity. Cheers.

@MarkNorman_NXTLVL

3 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 I'll be grabbing one soon from you .

@SouthlandFlyer

7 ай бұрын

@@mm4x492 Out of interest, do you know the torque capacity of the lockup clutch? Does it exceed the torque output of a factory engine, or will there be times where it will unlock for safety reasons on a factory NW engine?

@mm4x492

7 ай бұрын

@@SouthlandFlyer Yes, the clutch is up to the task. We've spoken with racing transmission specialists. You can actually confirm this yourself. Under wide open throttle, the factory program will lockup the TC in 3rd gear at about 80kph - full power.

Great video. Ive just bought a couple of automatePro for my pair of NW Pajs. Looking forwards to fitting them. Mitsi really dropped the ball with the factory programming of these but at least guys like you can develop solutions.

@mm4x492

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. No doubt you'll love it. Most people just leave it in the default settings, but if you need any advice with any parameter adjustment, we're here to help.

I would love a video on the pro model for nt pajero. You'll have a few customers if you make one.

excellent stuff. i wish i could afford it. wonder why my converter doesnt lock up at all. always slips

Great review. Shame you hiked up the price on the lock up mate.

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. The introductory special for the Pajero auto-mate completed mid last year. But subscribe with your email at the web site (mm4x4.com.au) or like us on Facebook (MM4X4VE) to keep an eye out for specials.

Excellent review! Would this product be relevant for a 2019 Pajero Sport? Thanks

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

Hi David, We assessed the Pajero Sport with the 8 speed transmission right after its release and found they used that same logic as we do to make sure the transmission gave maximum temperature reduction and fuel economy. As a result there’s no reason to improve its operation. Don’t waste your money. Mitsubishi and AISIN have done a great job on the design of the Pajero Sport Transmission 👍.

In the manual it states that you can still use an obd2 reader for the lock up mate, but no mention of the auto mate. Does the auto mate still alow me to use my Obd2 reader?

@mm4x492

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, all of our lockup kits come with an OBD2 splitter cable.

Thanks Marshall. I love my automate pro for towing in my NT Pajero. Tossing up whether to purchase an Ultragauge also. Yours is mounted close to the RH A pillar - which mounting did you use please?

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. I used the horizontal mount which is available from the UltraGauge store when ordering.

@toobemaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 Thanks!

Very interesting. I'm currently looking at Pajeros in SA and have been lamenting the scarcity of manuals. Do you have a video about your paddle kit?

@mm4x492

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, we currently don't have an installation video for the shift paddles, but will have one available in the future,

Looks like a great product do you do one for an np pajero

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Shane! auto-mate uses the CANBus which is accessible via the OBD2 connector for vehicle information such as gear, speed, rpm etc. The NP Pajero (Diesel) doesn't support the CANBus, so unfortunately auto-mate is not supported in this model. We don't have any near term plans to do so.

Reading through the comments, I picked up a response stating the fact that you currently don't offer the product for the petrol models. A whole bunch of us in Africa and the gulf states use our petrol powered pajeros for towing long-haul, commuting and wandering off the beaten track. It would have been nice to have this product, especially considering the fuel savings, it would pay for itself in no time. Is it even vaguely possible that you can develop a version of the petrol models?

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Isaac, we are constantly support new models, and the petrol may be supported in the future. The petrols are also very popular in the middle east. You can subscribe at our website to receive email notifications of new model releases.

I have just fitted an ultragauge to my NW pajero and I'm having troubles finding the pan and transmission temperatures like you have on your gauge. Any chance you could share the settings for those set points?

@mm4x492

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I regularly get asked how to setup to read the oil temperatures. I wrote a white-paper about transmission temperature and how to setup an Ultra-gauge or ScangaugeII to read the sensors. It is available for download here. www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=65510

Being a manual tragic, and struggling to find many available, I’m considering an auto with the lockup pro. How would you rate the driving experience compared to a manual? I’ve owned autos before and detest the vagueness and hesitation when accelerating, and lack of engine braking. My understanding is this would largely solve that?

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

When the lockup clutch is engaged it behaves exactly like a manual. Using the SPORT shift you can also change up and down gears like in a clutchless manual. For example, it stays locked when coasting into a corner and then as you power out again it behaves exactly like a manual, for direct and controlled power delivery. With the Pajero, in high range (2H,4H,4Hlc) it needs to be in D when under 30kph, so it wont be locked all the time. But when it is, it's just like a manual. I like the 'manual feel', so I have our auto-matePRO turned on all the time.

brilliant features, looks super handy to have while towing and just driving around. are there plans to make an auto-mate for the ns pajero? or is the automate compatible with the 07 model? if so sign me up for one asap

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan, we do have a kit available for the '07 NS Pajero called lockup-mate. It's not quite as advanced as auto-mate (shown in the video), as lockup-mate doesn't control the gear changes. With lockup-mate you'll get best results when used in SPORT mode with the driver changing gears at the right times to maintain conditions suitable to lockup.

@Danzi754

2 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 ok awesome, is there any plans to make an auto-mate for the ns at all?

@budget4x4life

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danzi754 Would also like to know...

How do you choose which unit to use? And how does it go when 4x4 in engaged, i mainly do beach driving ,with some towing on n offroad, cheers

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Please contact us via the website with you phone number and we can help you choose the best unit for you. When in low range 4WD, the kit will lockup in 2nd gear and above when in SPORT shift mode, which provides excellent temperature reduction.

Hi, this is brilliant engineering! Are you by any chance planning on developping a version of the auto-mate that would be compatible with an 2003 NM 3.2? If not, what would you recommend I use instead?

@mm4x492

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you feedback :) auto-mate uses the CANBus which is accessible via the OBD2 connector for vehicle information such as gear, speed, rpm etc. The NM and NP Pajeros (Diesel) don't support the CANBus, so unfortunately auto-mate is not supported in these models. We don't have any near term plans to do so. There are no automated lockup kits for NM/NPs that I'm aware of.

@johnnystoka6625

2 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 Why not do a NM/NP version even though it does not use Canbus . I read somewhere your first foray into this was actually using the NM/NP as a test bed so why not finish it and cater for the NM/NP owners ?

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnystoka6625 Hi Jonny, the first foray into this was in a NP Diesel which used a simple manual switch. This was a very poor solution and caused stalling if you didn't get to the switch quickly enough. This is why the automated lockup kit was developed when we replaced the NP with an NX. We are currently adapting the kit for a Petrol NS, which may simply work with Gen3 petrols too (which have CANBUS). However the Diesel is different requires new a whole hardware and software interface.

@johnnystoka6625

2 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 I thought the NS has the same Jatco auto ? Or is it that it's easier because the NS has Canbus . Would be so good of you could go the extra mile for NM/NP Diesel auto owners . Are there any aftermarket auto ECU controllers that can program these transmissions and if so what brand do you recommend . Or can an upgraded valve body and torque converter also do this ?

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnystoka6625 Yes, they both have the same Jatco box so this isn't an issue. It's the digital interface which is different, both electrically and the digital messages sent and received (which are Mitsubishi unique). Replacing the ECU is the only other alternative, but this costs several thousand dollars and then needs to be professionally programmed. Upgrading the torque converter and valve body won't help.

Gday mate , just had my 13 nw remapped , gets great torque for towing my 2750kg van . Will automate pro mess with my remap or just the transmission logics ?

@mm4x492

18 күн бұрын

Just the transmission logic. It will not affect the engine retune or the transmission ECU at all. auto-matePRO is the product of chioice if you have a retuned engine. It was designed specifically to work with Pajero's with remapped engines to provide extra tuning parameters to reduce vibration which can occur in some cars due to the extra torque from the engine.

Does the ultragauge have the AT temp from factory or is it an add on

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mobydick, the ultra gauge needs to be programmed to display the transmission sensors, and only the UltraGauge MX version has this programming capability. We have instructions at our website on how to configure the UltraGauge and ScanGauge OBD2 devices. www.mm4x4.com.au/helpful-documents-links

Hi Very interesting product can you please answer my below questions 1) what mileage increase are we talking about with a full tank on 2012 3.8 swb? 2) We don't have hills but alot of sand dunes...how this can help Currently i am using torque pro to monitor all the temps Thanks for your reply

@mm4x492

4 жыл бұрын

Hi obi, Fuel savings achieved is very much dependent on the driving conditions. On highway you typically achieve 10% better fuel economy or more. You have a 3.8 swb which would be a petrol version. We only currently only support diesel models.

Hey guys i just recently purchased and fitted this product in my 2007 X NS and whilst in drive the gears dont show on the dash like in this video for the NT is this normal? Other than that i cant fault the product and it has dropped my fuel usage by a noticeable amount immediately great product and looking forward to your reply thanks

@mm4x492

Жыл бұрын

The video is for the NT auto-mate product. For the earlier NS Pajero we have lockup-mate, which doesn’t have this feature.

@groot01280

Жыл бұрын

@mm4x492 further more I have recently towed my van 17 foot pop top not to far away from home but got between 14L and 15L per 100k from the computer 😮 and without the van it was down to mid 9's low 10's this product is amazing can't wait to go on a long trip to get some real world numbers but I am super stoked with what we have done so far and wow how great is this on the sand 😀

@mm4x492

Жыл бұрын

@@groot01280 So glad to hear you're impressed. We get many similar comments, and not many accessories will pay themselves off in the long run like a lockup-kit will. Enjoy.

Dose it work on the Mitsubishi Shogun in the uk

@mm4x492

Ай бұрын

We have customers around Europe who have not experienced any issues. In any case, our 30 day satisfaction guarantee covers incompatibility issues.

@derekmikolaj5362

Ай бұрын

The Shogun is a Pajero just under another name because of the meaning of Pajero in Spanish (In Norway it is the name of a small fish, and that is where they got the name from )

So standard does the pajero never activate lock up?

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the factory ECU will activate lockup but only when above 90kph in 4th gear, or around 100kph in 5th but only under very light load. Essentially only when touring on the highway. Our lockup-kits are designed to activate the lockup clutch in a wider variety of driving situations, such as hilly roads and mountain climbs, and in low range 4WD.

@E-Z_Gaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 thanks for the reply, is there a negative effect of being locked up under more conditions? Seems strange that factory doesn’t utilise it more? It seems like a great product by the way. Just trying to research it a bit more

Had me sold on this product but only to find it isn't compatible with the V6.......

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, we have just adapted the lockup-mate product for the NS V6, and only need to test one in an NT and NW to confirm they're the same. Contact us (via the website) if you're interested in assisting.

Have a nw jero.... But dont understand what this product does

@mm4x492

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, When working the transmission hard (eg towing, driving in sand, or climbing very steep hill is low range 4WD) it can overheat. Heat is a major cause of expensive transmission rebuilds. Our transmission lockup kit provides temperature protection by optimising the use of the torque converter clutch to prevent heat buildup, and whilst doing so, it also saves 10+% fuel.

Fuel economy??

@mm4x492

Жыл бұрын

There are many factors when it comes to fuel economy including driving style, modifications/weight, towing and road conditions. Customers have reported 10% fuel savings, with some experiencing up to 15-20%! Head over to the website to read the reviews and Marshall's blog articles.

Auto Transmission on the Pajero is not the best they suffer badly from shift issues, very often they stay in high gear when they get too hot

@mm4x492

3 жыл бұрын

The AISIN transmission in the Pajero is also used in the Landcruiser 150 prado, 100 & 200 series Petrol, Triton MQ DiD, and Isuzu D-MAX amongst others. It is considered a very good and reliable transmission, however, as you say until they get too hot. Heat is the main cause of most transmission rebuilds. A lockup-kit is by far the most effective way to manage transmission temperatures by preventing the heat generated by the torque converter to maintain cooler operation even under high loads.

@samueljesse5020

3 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 I've driven NT Pajero and the automatic in that is rubbish. They suffer from shift issues, get stuck in top top gear even when slowing down to just 10 kph. Another common problem is that they shift into neutral from drive when they are hot. My advice would be to get manual Pajero and avoid the auto like the plague.

@samueljesse5020

3 жыл бұрын

@@mm4x492 one option is to get aftermarket transmission cooler, probably the Toyota's have a better cooler than the Mitsubishi , in general Toyota are considered to have the best reputation in Japanese made 4WDs.