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I think we need a full spoiler version of these videos and really go deep!

@WillParry00

2 жыл бұрын

Yes a full spoiler would be much better for this kind of video(maybe not for viewership)

Omg I just started the way of kings and I’m loving it. First Brandon Sanderson book.

@o_o-lj1ym

2 жыл бұрын

I just finished the way of kings recently, as my first Sanderson book. It was awesome!

@mohamedelbashir1529

2 жыл бұрын

@@o_o-lj1ym Really? dont spoil for me but what part of the book was most exciting for you? the beginning the middle or the end. no spoilers lol.

@o_o-lj1ym

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedelbashir1529 so the last 200 or so pages were the most action packed, there was literally a plot twist/big reveal/shock event every page right up until the end. But personally I fell in love with it from the beginning. The prologue was pretty epic and Szeth seemed like such a complex character. And then the magic of the world kept me going through the first 400 or so foundational pages.

@mohamedelbashir1529

2 жыл бұрын

@@o_o-lj1ym ok thanks. Do we got more time with szeth? I feel like he has much more character development and potential. I’m at the part where szeth and his master leave the inn after telling stories

@o_o-lj1ym

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedelbashir1529 unfortunately, there wasn’t much of Szeth, but his later chapters reveal so much about the series and where it’s headed. By the end of this book, you sort of realise just how grand the series and plot is going to be. I’ve heard people say that the fifth stormlight book might be dedicated to him though.

I honestly liked the Mistborn characters more as they felt way more real to me.

I'm really surprised that Mistborn kept losing to Stormlight by such a large margin. I gave most of my points to Mistborn but it was really hard to choose. I love them both, for different reasons!

@ram_bam

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you. I loved Stormlight, but Mistborn is my favorite. The magic system (my favorite so far), the characters, the storyline. Mistborn is just the bomb. The story didn't drag out as much as Stormlight, either.

@noname3609

Жыл бұрын

​@@ram_bamunpopular oppinion❤

@taleofatrillionyears

10 ай бұрын

Mistborns story flow is so beautiful no bullshit trauma flashbacks and pages upon pages of character building does not hold a candle to the river of originality that mistborn weilds.

Oh boy, people really like Stormlight a lot more 🤯 Also, Rock is the most important side character. Who make stew if Rock not around?

@damianpook8576

2 жыл бұрын

Airsick lowlander, who is this Rock you refer to? Surely not the great Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor.

I think we could really deep dive into this if we did a spoiler version Elliot!!

Recently just finished my re-read of Mistborn and I re-read Stormlight last year and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed Mistborn more than Stormlight and I think part of it was I was connecting to the characters in Mistborn more this time around. I think having more page time is a pro like you said but I felt like the quality per page was still really high in Mistborn. Pattern is the best!

Thank you so much for making this spoiler free! I read Mistborn (loved it!) and starting Stormlight Archive now. This hyped me up even more. Thanks!

Hi Elliot! Kind of a new subscriber here! I just want to thank you because you got me into reading the Cosmere through your videos! ☺️

You Stopped saying "hi guys" 🥺🥺

@shailejanarain

2 жыл бұрын

Omg i just noticed too. ELLIOT WHYYY

Pattern is my favorite character next to Kaladin! :D

This was difficult for me... MB was my first Sanderson book and I read the ERA I trilogy back to back so it is always going to have a special place in my heart. I am currently reading SLA and honestly think it feels superior in pretty much every way maybe except for the Magic System at the moment. I just understand Allomancy way better, but I admit I have yet to finish SLA. That said, MB and SLA are my favorite Cosmere settings so far so they are both amazing IMHO.

Hardcore agree with you on the romance side. I wish there was a bit more but Mistborn is the more developed of the two

Love love love pattern so much. I’m listening to the german audio books and the reader does a fantastic job reading him, which makes it even better :D

love this cannot wait for the rest of the videos =D

My love for the Bridge Four friendship has really faded as the series has gone on. They feel broken up and closer to their own main characters by RoW. Especially after Lopen's prominent role in Dawnshard.

Pattern is more fun, and Syl is ... nicer? Not sure how to phrase it. I think I like reading about Pattern a little bit more, but in real life might prefer Syl :)

Love your videos We want a Mistborn Era 1 vs Era 2 video next plzzzz!

Love this video and amazing channel how can one person not like this video love your Australia fan John

Currently reading Starsight and will try to finish it before Cytonic comes out ;)

I love the relationship in Mistborn idk maybe I'm just weird haha

Pattern is definitely my favourite spren.

mistborn has a very very special place in my heart for so many reasons but i finished oathbringer last night and man, it would be a lie if i said it wasn’t my favorite series of all time. just so phenomenal

I want a spren. I see them closer to children than anything else so I don’t mind them around but dog companion is also so cool but love a different one than the dog.

Hi, I tried to look for comparison in story of mistborn and the archives comparison! Which one is the better series to read from? And does it matter which one you start with?

I would say I personally like every aspect of Mistborn better than Stormlight.

You give me Vin and Kaladin's traumatic backstory. I raise you Ghost.

oh gosh! my current read is Arcanum Unbounded before I dive in to other masterpiece 🔥 thanks for being very informative...

Today I finished reading mistborn 3, and wow was it a wild ride, especially near the end

I have only read the first two books in the stormlight archives I really am enjoying the series so far

Do you guys ever shipped Kaladin + Adolin? Just curious

@ghostparty2062

2 жыл бұрын

Ew no

I want a Kalladin and Vin book! I can only dream. :)

The Spren and their bond is my favorite friendship in stormlight

There are a few other key friendships that are non Bridge 4. Adalin and Renarin; Shallan and Kal; Kal and Syl. BTW, I like Syl better than Pattern.

@aliaibrahim4517

2 жыл бұрын

Adolin and Kal are pretty dang wholesome too. Also Pattern over Syl any day!!!

Good video but I have some feedback for you on this type of video. You have asked some specific questions that require detail of the both book series in order to answer. You've clearly determined that this video is for the readers who have read both and keeping it spoiler free has really disrupted the flow. Having read both some time ago I was unable to grasp exactly what you were talking about some of the time due to the vagueness. You made some really great points and it left me wanting to hear what you had to say about the specific characters you were indirectly referencing. In some cases it left me wondering which of two or three characters you were talking about. My suggestion is this: With these type of themed videos that are specific and require specific knowledge do not be afraid of using a spoiler warning. I feel that you would have a much easier time expressing thoughts and it would have been easier to get drawn along with you. Thanks for being a great booktuber :)

The companion in Mistborn 😍 and I definitely feel more connected to Syl than Pattern, I feel like we get to know her more

The question remains: would Vin be your friend?

Spoilers (maybe) . . . . . "No Mating! NO MATING!!!" ~Pattern I'm sorry, I have to go with the spren. If you've asked me a few months ago, I would have gone with the Kandra. The backstory for the Kandra got to me hard. But I just feel like the spren are just so in your face that you can't help but love them.

@dinocollins720

2 жыл бұрын

Okay you're so right about the spren one of my all time favorite characters is Syl!!!

Syl is my favorite spren with Wyndle taking second place

Just finished a reread of Way of Kings, and when a certain character in bridge 4 was in a scene, I just thought of the meme about him. Every time.

Pattern is the best by far

Is El wearing a Ghost of Tsushima sweatshirt??

I have a big pet peeve about everyone saying Brandon Sanderson's romance is bad. Every couples relationship is different I know a lot of couples that are super awkward others aren't, some are super romantic others aren't, some are extremely compatible others aren't. I think all the couples Brandon writes are different and I don't think we should say a relationship is written bad just because their experience is different than ours. Anyway, sorry for the rant haha but I'm always reminded of this haha. Also, I wont judge anyone for having this opinion but I just wanted to share my thoughts haha.

@ebnovels

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think I personally said any of them are written poorly. It’s true that relationships are different, but I don’t find that’s the gripe most people have; I could be wrong, but I think it’s more that because Sanderson often spends little time developing the romantic relationships, they simply don’t feel exceptionally fleshed out. Maybe that’s not what most people think and I’m just way off the mark! 😆

@dinocollins720

2 жыл бұрын

@@ebnovels no I definitely wasn’t bagging on you lol. I think you do a great job of sharing your opinion while also having an open mind that’s why I love watching your videos. I just hear about Sanderson’s romance all the time in the book tube community haha. I’m not one of the people that thinks Sanderson can do no wrong lol but I think he gets a lot of flak for his relationship development not because they are written poorly, but because they are unconventional.

*spoiler: I haven't seen that meme about [Name] didn't do nothing wrong? Is she referring to szeth or Sadeas?

@ebnovels

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a phrase where people say Moash did nothing wrong

@michaeldavenport2686

2 жыл бұрын

@@ebnovels Thanks! That makes better sense than what I put for the first few books.

Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Mistborn but I actually laughed at the title by how obvious the answer seemed to me. The characters in Mistborn don't even come close to the characters in the Stormlight Archive to me, granted I've only read era 1 so far. I was never able to emotionally connect with the Mistborn characters the way I did with the SA characters. I feel like Brandon develops the characters in SA so more much in the same amount of time given than in Mistborn. Even just comparing the Final empire to the way of kings I cared FARRRR more about bridge 4 than I did about Kelsier's crew. Basically everyone besides Sazed was forgettable in that book. Things get better (obv) in Well of Ascention and Hero of Ages. But things get demonstratively better in the latter SA books. The cast of SA is really on another level, even "side" characters. Teft, rock, Rlain, Dabbid, Renarin, Leshwi, Rysn, Evi, Sebariel, etc

You should include both eras under Mistborn to give it a more fair shot xD

Pattern is the best

Would you ever feed Luna Bear a Luna bar?

I actually prefer Vin to Kaladdin... In a fight between Vin and Kaladdin, I feel like Vin would win.. She's hardy.

@jaredpoulter6762

2 жыл бұрын

She is hardy and scrappy and I would never count her out completely, but Stormlight's healing factor makes it an unfair fight in my opinion. Plus if you are talking Kaladin at the end of RoW, I have to give it to him.

@andrewmmbogori8339

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredpoulter6762 I think the shard plate armour makes it more unfair than the healing. If we rule out Shard Plate and Atium, I think Vin would come out on top...

My first introduction to Sanderson was Way of Kings. After reading it I read Warbreaker, followed by Words of Radiance and I was fully sold this was an author whose works I was going to follow forever. With this in mind, and wanting to share his works, I suggested to my wife that we co-read Mistborn together, as that was what I was hearing was his other great work besides SA (for the record at this point I'd say that was Emperor's Soul but that's neither hear nor there). The result was hugely disapointing. Neither of us really cared much for book one, and about half way through book two my wife tapped out, advised me I could keep reading if I wanted but she was done with this book and this author. Made me very sad, but it was tough to argue as book 2 was even more under whelming then book 1 (which I did still go on to finish on my own). All of which is to say, this doesn't even fee like a topic worth discussing to be honest. To be clear I do NOT think Mistborn is a bad series. It definitely wasn't for my wife, but I still found it some what entertaining, if more then a bit clunky. But SA is one of the best series I've ever read (thus far) while MB (at least era 1, which is all I've read to this point, but I've heard is sadly the better of the two eras per multiple sources) is just an okay, maybe slightly above average, fantasy story. Comparing Mistborn to SA is like comparing Weird Al's music to his books. Weird Al has written some perfectly fine, maybe even above average, children's books, but his music is why he's one of the most well known and beloved musicians of my life time, its just not a fair comparison and can only serve to make his books look worse then they actually are because they're being compared with one of the greatest bodies of work of all time. Same thing here, I do not think mistborn is bad, but it can't help but look bad if the point of comparison is SA, which is shaping up to be one of the great fantasy series of all time. Edit: Okay should probably give my own answers here to the questions: Character - SA, not even close, MB characters aren't developed enough and while I've read flatter characters for sure, I never really felt like I understood any of them where as I feel like I not only deeply understand all of SA's main characters, I honestly even feel like I've gotta a better handle on some of the secondary characters then I do on many of MBs main characters. Also, they're just more interesting. Again, I don't think MB's characters are bad, I like many of them, they just pale compared to SAs. Romance - I actually think that 50/50 split is appropriate because they're both equally meh in both series. If I had to pick I'd give the slight edge to SA, there were a few characters who at times have shown a hint of chemistry, while I never really felt chemistry between anyone in MB, the characters who were together or were interested in other characters felt like they were more for plot reasons then because they'd actually had meaningful connection points or built something together. But again, this is splitting hairs as SA's romances are definitely not its strong suit either. For all the things he's incredible at writing, if you're looking for a good romance, sanderson is not your author. Friendships - SA, and again, it's not even close. Which is sad as I feel like friendship plays a HUGE role in the story of MB for reasons I won't mention due to spoilers, and again, they ONLY look bad when compared to SA, not because they were actually bad, but almost all the MB friendships felt awkward or forced to me compared to the SA ones which feel far more natural. As much as Sanderson can struggle on romance, by the time he got to writing the SA he'd mastered writing a good friendship. Unfortunately he was still finding his way when he wrote MB, at least thats what it felt like to me on my read. Bonus Bridge 4 vs Crew - Bridge 4 and again its not even close. The bond of Bridge 4 in many ways is what MAKES SA work so well, what makes it so special. The friendship of the crew in mistborn is a story point, I'm shocked the voting was even as close as it was. Side Character - SA. I LOVE Sazed (is he even considered a side character?), but it gets a bit more murky after him, while I could list tons of beloved SA side characters (granted, like Sazed, its unclear to me who is and isn't a side character so depending on how this is defined it could change my view a bit). Dog vs Spren - I love dogs, but I was pretty indifferent to the dog character, while I love syl and pattern so this is another one where its honestly not even close. Bonus Syl vs Pattern - Super SUPER close, but I give Pattern the slight edge. I might be a little bias as my wife hand knit me a pattern hat, but she did it because I was really enjoying pattern so much. Antagonists - SA, more complex antagonists but I don't think this one is as clear cut, particularly if we're including all of era 1 and not just book 1 (which had an extremely under developed antagonist) since we learn more about the antagonists as the series goes along making them more interesting. But still, SA's antagonists feel more unique and more memorable and sanderson made me really REALLY want to see them get their comeuppance compared to MB.

Not saying you shouldn't but I don't get comparing my favorite characters from my favorite books, and rating them. I simply can't pick who I like most. Cliche, but I love every single one of them. Yes, even Vyre, and Straff. I simply couldn't pick. The Lopen I love just as much as Kaladin. I loved to hate Sadeas just as much as I loved Vin. Can't pick.

Before even watching the video I want to say, making us choose between Mistborn and Stormlight was cruel :,( I love them both so much I couldn't even chose for some of the questions. Overall I think Stormlight is better in a lot of aspects even if not all (as you say, it's Sanderson's masterpiece and it can be noticed) BUT the Final Empire is my favourite book ever and I would classify it above any of the Stormlight books. So they are extremly balanced for me ^^

I am not even sure why is this comparison made. To understand everything going on in the last (and future) StormArchive books, while not required it's recommended to read Mistborn 1 and 2 Era and Secret History I personally enjoyed more Mistborn Era 2 so far. Anyway, the writing style between these two is different, because Stormlight has a broader focus, magic systems are distinguished enough although Stormlight is hitting those high fantasy cliches, borderline, yet maintains its own identity. In a way, I found Allomancy (and two other magic systems on Scadrial) more fun but that's just a personal preference (because it keeps it simple, doesn't try to wrap around too much, such as represent 9 distinct different orders, or tries to anyway). If there is something I dislike about Stormarchive that's some characters (and before you go, my favorite ones are all side one), not because they are bad but how they are built, and at the same time I also enjoy the books because of them, because that's how the life is you can't like everyone and they are believable and down the earth human (not the classic high fantasy either). But it's just that some of them have much more complex structure around them, taking more of word count and chapters than others and basically often they are around some I don't like. But the great thing about Brendon's writing is that characters grow, change, shape, and I already have a few I strongly dislike, change to strong liking over the course of time. It's just that I fear as Brendon continues to publish Storm Archive he will loose the focus (broad it) even more and maybe he should wrap it a tide a bit before he loses the control over narrative? That is my main concern. Other than that, anyone who enjoys StormArchive will enjoy Mistborn and vice-versa

god i just wrote out an entire paragraph and i can't see it anymore after posting it

@ebnovels

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no, that’s the worst!

Elliot: “There are these two characters, and people shipped them for a while...and they had more chemistry than the canon ship. I don’t know...” SPOILER . . . Me: Oh! She’s talking about Shallan and Kaladin! (I feel you... I’ll be forever pissed...)

Spren give you magic powers, the doggo in Mistborn does not. Case closed.

@ebnovels

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I don’t want to rely on a spren for powers! 😆

@jaredpoulter6762

2 жыл бұрын

@@ebnovels but your question wasn't, "How do you prefer to get your powers?" It was, "which companion would you rather have?" And I will choose the companion that gives me magic powers. Come to think of it, I think I would also rather get my magic powers by befriending a spren than by being born with innate powers that require being beaten, sometimes close to death, in order to awaken them.

Should have done it spoiler. It's annoying and ambiguous the way it is. That said, 10/10.

I'd rather have a Syl 100%

This might be a hot take but my favorite Mistborn character isn't Vin it's Kelsier. The tough choice for me would be comparing Kelsier and Kaladin.

@jaredpoulter6762

2 жыл бұрын

Sazed is my favorite character in Mistborn.

@dinocollins720

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredpoulter6762 Sazed is such a good character. Some people don't like his depressed phase, but I think it's a realistic reaction and it makes his comeback and character arch that much more powerful!

Spoilers for the romance in both series Elend and Vin’s relationship was just not good in book one. Vin was so paranoid and untrusting so the fact that she fell in love with literally the first nobleman she met was just unbelievable. In this regard, I prefer Shallan and Adolin’s relationship because they were just to kids who found each other hot and I’m fine with that I guess. BUT the power couple that Elend and Vin grew into was just amazing so it’s kinda unfair to compare because we don’t know the outcome of Shallan and Adolin.

@tonkabeanicecream5698

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Vin meet lots of nobles? I'm a little rusty.

@aliaibrahim4517

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonkabeanicecream5698 ooh hahah I’m pretty rusty too but I believe Elend was the first nobleman she really spoke to. She didn’t dance with anyone at the first ball she went to and I don’t think she joined in on conversation.

I personally think that Stormlight Archives are better just because we spend a lot of time with the characters. Also people who haven't read both the series are going to be so confused.

I really need to reread Mistborn book 1 & 2 so that I can read book 3 and finish the series. My heart was just too broken after book 2 💜😪😪

@BamadeusTTV

2 жыл бұрын

You wont regret it. The Hero of Ages felt like such a satisfying ending to Era 1 and it's cast.

Scrolling through the comments, I'm truly surprised to see how any people not only tolerate but enjoy reading Pattern's scenes. Shallan and Pattern are the the only two things in SA that I dont really enjoy reading. I think that Shallan's arc and story are interesting, but her as a person I just cant stand. Even though I have physically read the books first, I have since listened to the audiobooks while I'm at work. The voice of Pattern was like nails on a chalkboard to me and made me dislike Pattern more. I still like Stormlight far more than Mistborn though.

@readbykyle3082

2 жыл бұрын

That's crazy, really cements to me how much Stormlight has for different types of readers. I think Sando is at his worst when he's trying to write humor, EXCEPT with Pattern. I think Pattern is HYSTERICAL and every scene with Pattern is an A. Sorry that he and Shallan grated you so much!

I cant believe Mistborn lost the companion one so much! I too would like such a doggie. Magic powers aside xD

Vin > Kaladin. Don't @ me :P

You’re so cute

How dare you insult the great god of stew

I think that one of Sanderson´s weaknesses is writing romance. In Mistborn I couldn´t believe what the pages told me over and over again. In Stormlight he gets better, but I think he still has room for improvement. All that said, I believe that SA has my overall support. It´s just so fascinating to me. I love Mistborn, but not at the level of SA.

MB has a better romance????? What???? The ONE romance it has is next to nothing.

The SA couple that you hate is my favorite cosmere romance. 😬 Sorry!

@ebnovels

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, don’t be sorry!

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the original Mistborn trilogy, but characters not named Vin, Sazed, Kelsier and Elend seemed underdeveloped.

@zerotohero9832

2 жыл бұрын

I actually really like spook in book three

@matthewdennis1739

2 жыл бұрын

@@zerotohero9832 True, he does get some development. I did like his arc too.

Pattern >>>>> Syl . Forever and always. He is great!