The parking lots are empty. Not surprised as few people with a car in Mississauga who already driving are going to park to take Miway.

The problem is this BRT doesnt cover deep into the industrial area like the traditional bus routes. Also, a lot of riders are coming from Brampton and they usually transfer to another bus at Hurontario and Eglinton. This BRT goes to Square One which actually takes more time for these riders. Also, the heaviest traffic on Eglinton is between Dixie and HWY 403 and this BRT doesn't bypass that stretch. That's why there is no usage at the stations. It just wasn't planned well.

They cut service to 15-20min even during peak 🤩 FML Also Kipling replaced Islington as the destination for all subway connections bar route 26 (which isn't on the transitway), which passes Islington station. I must say, if MiWay wants to recover or grow their ridership they gotta stop fumbling so hard. It's still riddled with delays, bad connections, and infrequency. Not to mention that the city itself is MADE for car dependency. Until this changes it'll always be an uphill battle sadly.

I think this build looks so nice, I was very surprised by the beautiful architecture of the stations.

@arickett68

4 ай бұрын

I used this yesterday for the first time on the GO bus from Yonge/Sheppard to Square One and was very impressed - didn’t know it existed even.

The Winston Churchill and Erin Mills station are so isolated. They should have developed a shopping center or something.

@aidankeys8534

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the power lines DO NOT help in the slightest. No development within those 50 odd meters.

@youbetcha6880

Жыл бұрын

Better yet, they could have built the stations on the actual streets they serve.

I’ve only been on the Transitway corridor (Square One to Renforth) once on a GO bus lol. As well as stopping through Erin Mills station on my way to Sheridan to visit a friend a few times pre-pandemic

Ultimately Mississauga is a car oriented suburb of Toronto. A nice trip down memory lane but not ever a place for me again

@Rotarson

2 жыл бұрын

I hope this starts to change as we get more and more high-rises, and transit improvements. The Hurontario LRT is gonna help a lot, so will the Dundas BRT and the bus priority signals on a bunch of major streets. Still, it's a long road ahead. I'm wondering what's gonna happen to Brampton though, I get the impression they have way more pushback against densification and rapid transit.

Ayyyyy, He mentioned Medowvale! I always take the 109 to the subway when I go downtown, though I might switch to the 21A GO Bus since my old route is actually the slowest

Used to take the 109 from Islington station (from Toronto along the 427) to Etobicoke Creek station for work before Covid.

Very good video, I think condo developments are more suited by major transit lines.

@jayl2499

3 жыл бұрын

They should sell the land to allow developer to build condos or office spaces above these empty parking lots at the stations.

@Rotarson

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayl2499 Agreed, though it's gonna be extremely tough to get the zoning laws to change to allow this. A lot of people are against having high rises anywhere near their single family detached homes. Hoping for the best though!

BEAUTIFUL! But so empty? The city should open some land for mixed-use development.

I know I'm late on this but when you are going on about what routes service the transitway stations, TTC also services Renforth Station via routes 32 and 112. :-)

@josephfollows3523

3 жыл бұрын

@@noodle7515 TTC 48? That doesn’t service the Mississauga Transitway

The land around Etobicoke Creek Station would be ideal for a large scale co-op housing development. Unfortunately by the time that could ever happen the land will probably become another suburban office park development.

These videos are very well done, perhaps you could consider better soundproofing? Like using a smaller room, or putting a sheet over you and the microphone?

@VanishingUnderground

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve gotten a new microphone since recording this video. Do you find the audio better on my newer videos?

do the stations on the transitway have lifts?

@VanishingUnderground

2 жыл бұрын

All the stations are accessible - 8 of them by elevator and the rest by ramps.

Which pass is for traveling Mississauga to Toronto Or Toronto to Mississauga

Line 2 is being extended to Renforth??

@VanishingUnderground

4 жыл бұрын

No, sorry I meant the 109 and 112 connection from Renforth to Kipling

@chickenbokernot2598

2 жыл бұрын

but, it probably still will

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This transitway is a disaster of transit planning made by politicians. They needed to build something due to Sauga’s exploding population but were too afraid to commit funds to actually build the transit where people live. When the stations are totally empty during rush hour you know this whole thing was a waste.

@marks5141

3 жыл бұрын

A fair point on the need for transit in Sauga. What are the most important improvements you would like to see?

@rusroyce

3 жыл бұрын

Its gonna pay off in the near future, Mississaugas population is blowing up

@perllyngrenn2100

3 жыл бұрын

Mississauga's transit expansion appears to be more about moving people differently rather than encouraging people to leave their cars at home. I absolutely dread the Hurontario LRT that appears to be a grade-separated streetcar system. If they put it underground, however, between QEW and Square One with an alignment spoke towards the condo developments west of the City Centre, it would be a game-changer.

@marks5141

3 жыл бұрын

@@perllyngrenn2100 Subways, subways, subways. Of course a subway would be great! But the trade off is that it is far more expensive, and unfortunately ridership projections do not justify the additional cost. And I do believe you mean that it is a non grade-separated system, although a streetcar is not the most accurate description. I also don't entirely agree with the first sentence. Hurontario LRT will replace one of the busiest bus routes (combined) in the GTA, and the Mississauga Transitway has significantly sped up trips on the 107 and 109, which previously followed similar routings. About the alignment, the ridership generated by those Condos is uncertain as of yet, but if there is significant demand, then service can be expanded later. In the meantime, more frequent bus service will be good enough.

@perllyngrenn2100

3 жыл бұрын

@@marks5141 Of course putting things underground is more expensive. However, when I think of LRT done right, I look at Ottawa, Edmonton or even Calgary. Clearly, Edmonton and Ottawa felt it was worth the investment to have portions as a subway. There is no doubt that the Hurontario Street corridor is busy, but again, I don't see the proposed system as being so appealing that it will motivate drivers to use it. If they buried the portion I suggested, with seamless transfers at the GO stations and underground access to Trillium's Mississauga Site, I would definitely be more inclined to leave my car at home.

now i know why my taxes are so bloody high. such luxurious transit stations. i have to get out of this stupid city

Dixie is poorly designed. People on the 185 buses need to go up and down steps to be able to catch the 109 Eastbound. Vice versa for 109 Buses heading westbound trying to catch the 185. In addition, the Parking area is only accessible from a small roadway which is why NO ONE parks there.

Montreal wipes the floor with the GTA for proper transit planning.

I have to say that this was a colossal waste of money. I don't live in Mississauga, but I've driven by it...empty buses with nobody in the stations. Yeah, it's COVID, but still. They should have just done an extension of the Eglinton Crosstown straight across Mississauga.

@marks5141

3 жыл бұрын

I can attest to the fact that pre-pandemic, 107 and 109 buses were packed to the brim, especially during rush hour. The comment about the stations is entirely fair. They were arguably an inefficient, but somewhat necessary (only stop that could be cut is Cawthra as all others are necessary for connecting to local buses and servicing the employment areas along Eglinton), use of funds. Overall, the primary purpose of the busway is to reduce travel times on the 107 and 109, which it did very well. On the other hand, extending the crosstown would be a real waste of money, as there is no need for the huge capacity of trains and 107 and 109 would not be able to use it. And it wouldn't occur until the Eglinton Crosstown is built to Renforth, which will likely not occur until 2025-10 years after the current busway opened.

@youbetcha6880

3 жыл бұрын

@@marks5141 Cawthra is a waste of a station, but it wouldn't be if they extended the Cawthra bus north of Bloor. Why have that huge stretch of Cawthra essentially unserved by transit. But even if they kept it as a bus lane, it should have been on a road like Eglinton, which is wide enough to accommodate a dedicated bus lane and where people can get to. As it is, the only station in an actual neighbourhood is Central Parkway. But I disagree that Mississauga can't support and east-west LRT: If the city is building one along Hurontario, one going the other direction would be helpful. And Eglinton's wide enough. Or Burnhanthorpe.

@marks5141

3 жыл бұрын

@@youbetcha6880 Ah, your point about bus lanes / LRT is well taken. Eglinton probably could support a LRT, though that would not have been able to happen until at least 2025 when the Crosstown gets here. Another consideration is value for money, as a BRT would have sufficient capacity, more flexibility and be cheaper. Now, an LRT on Dundas would have been very feasible and some form of rapid transit should already be there, though BRT (hopefully we'll get it soon) is still better in this case due to it having sufficient capacity, far more flexibility and lower cost. Now, regarding on-street bus lanes vs. off-road, one obvious advantage of off-road is that it never stops at a traffic light, providing a faster journey. Also, in Mississauga's case, the buses need to go to Square One, so the current alignment is far superior and probably cheaper than going via Eglinton. Now, Cawthra is a through waste of money. Cawthra north of Bloor is by no means a transit desert (compared to other parts of Mississauga) thanks to 26, 76 and 20, and no one would want to go South along Cawthra at any rate. Additionally, most (all) customers on the 8 bus go to Square One, so diverting it to Cawthra station would be most inconvenient for riders. edit: thanks for the friendly response; there's too much bitterness on the internet these days

@JayFow

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it's actually in the works rn luckly

@jakestar121

Жыл бұрын

the busway was designed to accommodate a conversion from BRT to LRT in the future, namely in the form of a westward extension from Renforth, which is the future terminus of the Eglinton West LRT line extension (whenever that gets completed is a whole different can of worms). the upgrade to an LRT prob won’t happen for several decades but there is certainly potential in being able to connect downtown Mississauga to Pearson Airport and the rest of Toronto by rapid transit

Mississauga was poorly designed from the start, and has always been a nightmare to get around using transit. Rapidways help, but the regular Mississauga Transit service is deplorable. A car is still the best way to get around.