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@adamfrazer5150

3 ай бұрын

Really appreciate the insight and context to the events you cover, helps anyone unfamiliar with life on/below the ocean understand how things work and how humans work to adapt to it all 👍

It never fails to amaze me how easily these cave diving situations go from casual and relaxed from one error compounding into a new set of challenges, that seem to almost always cause even more errors to occur until opportunity is exhausted. Very sad.. and yeah, I can't imagine they were there to thieve metal.

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. The thing about doing these kinds of dives is that all your preparation needs to be focused on eliminating possible problems before they arise. I get the sense that these guys hadnt fully prepped for the problems. Inside an overhead dive environment like this you dont have time to problem solve so you have to rely on preparation.

@stanley1554

Жыл бұрын

@@waterlinestories yep, I totally understand. I've recently become a huge fan of these cave diving videos and not just the ones that end in tragedy (although admittedly those are very interesting narratives) that aside, it becomes clear very quickly after viewing a number of these videos why it's so important to always follow these safety protocols like it's religion.

@stanley1554

Жыл бұрын

@@waterlinestories nicely written script btw 👍

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

There's a guy I follow on Facebook who talks about the human factors of diving. I'll link his website below. Primarily he talks about the idea of normalising bad habits. Cut a little corner and nothing bad happens that dive so next time you do it again until that's a habit. Then one day, all those normalised bad habits line up in a way that you just can't work your way out from under them. He's got quite an interesting little documentary on a dive that went bad. You should check it out when you get a chance. www.thehumandiver.com/

@stanley1554

Жыл бұрын

@@waterlinestories this is really great, I will absolutely check it out. Thank you for the suggestion. I really enjoy material like this so I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Thank you.

I met an amateur cave diver in NW Florida who used to go out to explore natural springs in a small john boat with his young (5- or 6-year-old) son with him. I can't imagine the horror and danger the child would have faced if he never came back.

I have to pause the video and just say I absolutely love your channel. The fact that you are willing to say that you don't know it all, and you're very clear where inferences are made or the best educated guesses are made, really builds my confidence that you do a lot of like work and researching these videos. I feel like if you ever wanted to go into a career with teaching you would be phenomenal. I appreciate that you are concise, to the point, and yet still managed to throw in enough side information to paint a clear picture. Kudos to you sir!

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. And thanks for reminding me. I think maybe I need to do more of that.

I cannot believe they never had a cave reel, from what I'm leaning about diving that is like one of the very first things that is taken into consideration

There are so many cases like this, where cave divers die because they ignored things like having a cave reel, spare tank, helmet, etc. In one I watched yesterday, a pair of young guys insisted on going into a narrow space that had a lot of gravel on a slope leading into it--another diver seeing them, tried to get their attention, so he could communicate to them that they shouldn't go in--they either didn't notice, or ignored him...and neither made it out, of course. Took something like ten years for one body to be found, and twenty for the other, despite major efforts made to remove the gravel. Responsible people cemented bars across the entrance to that chamber, but someone else removed them and left a sign saying "you can't stop us from going in". Someone else will die in there, just because people are foolhardy idiots.

@ChildofVitalani

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about Jacob's Well? Waterline Stories covered that one! It's a great watch, here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zqx7sLySpJXYh5c.html&ab_channel=WaterlineStories

@charlesphipps6169

Жыл бұрын

Kent Maupin, mark brashier 1979. Jacob's well

@shawntailor5485

11 ай бұрын

Jacob's well in texas

This story is new to me. Tragic turn of events. Well put together story!

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Yes. A good day out turns to nightmare quickly. Thanks for watching

No line reel, helmet or spare tanks! OMG

Very well researched and put together, along with information I hadn’t previously heard. Subscribed and binged the other videos, looking forward to a new one.

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so. I really appreciate that.

I love those stories. Thank you sir.

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

when i thought i had heard any diving related accident story thats worth telling, i found your channel and you have some i didnt know yet. thanks.

I'll never understand the thought process behind cave diving without a guideline/cave reel. In my mind that's as essential in any cave environment as the pressurized air itself is to any underwater environment (as well as triplicate light sources, ideally with backup chemical sticks, a dive tool/knife, and a pre-dive conference about basic safety eg thirds rule, safety checks, points of failure, emergency plans, etc before each and every trip into the water). The risk of a silt-out in caving is just too damn high and too damn dangerous to ever go in without a line. Not meaning to sound harsh here, as this was obviously a tragedy and much respect goes to Aidas for searching for someone he thought was in trouble. It's just hard to watch so many of these cases as a fellow diver and to and know that so much sadness is preventable with proper preparation and a respect for the fallacy of overconfidence and Murphy's Law 😔

Thanks for the great work.

In the same vein as maddoctor99’s reference to the Incident Pit model of accident causation, there is another model I find useful called the Swiss Cheese model. There is a Wikipedia page with that exact title that gives a full description. It is usually used in aviation accident study, but it fits diving equally well. Basically, it involves lining up multiple slices of Swiss Cheese each representing an action that could be a precursor to a serious accident. So long as the next slice does not have a hole that lines up with the first, the potential accident path is stopped. However, if all the slices for a given accident sequence have holes that line up, then the accident will happen. Though mostly used for accident investigation, it can also work well for planning. BTW, I REALLY enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.

People who make a mistake cave diving generally only do it once.

Man, i love your videos, but i did enjoy them when there was no music on the background or when it was so low that you couldn't realise it was there, like the old ones. gave a intensity which was second to none but please, keep up !

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Cool. Thanks for the feedback. It does help to inform how I make them.

Me too dang you need more people your content is great !

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I just started this channel so as I put out more stories Im sure it will grow with your help.

Excellent execution; esp so on an incident I never heard about. Much more that generic first impressions of a unique if boring little swim in a tall smooth tube. Facilities attached; rooms, corridors ... and an obstacle course of sharp obstructions.

I found your channel today. Set down and watched every video. Amazing work, very well done. Subbed and looking forward to new content.

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate that

Excellent quality! Very impressive.

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

The Dutch, who’ve had centuries of battling the sea, have an aphorism: The water always wins.

4.40 there's a graffiti deck on the wall lol. Great content thanks

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Gotta love a bit of Graffiti-D

Great content keep up the great videos

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Waterline you have to put out more videos at a higher rate. Your videos are so damn interesting, can't stop watching and now I've run out.

Cave diving is the epitome of fuck around and find out

What exactly is etched in the round disc type object at timestamp 4:40?

He was trying to find his friend. 😢 Very sad.

What the hell were they thinking? Surely they could find somewhere safer to dive than a missle silo (especially an old, delapeted Russian one, Sorry Russia) and they were joking about how safe/unsafe it could be. It's a train wreck waiting to happen.

It’s so easy to get disoriented and I’m guessing they had a back up torch if that goes it’s definitely game over . Always have a line

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Life line

@MrPaulcoster94

Жыл бұрын

@@waterlinestories 💯 even if it looks simple . I couldn’t find my way out of a simple engine room on a ship reck got scary

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPaulcoster94 Yeah and when that fear starts to enter then your brain gets foggy. If you dont have the training and the experience to trust your training it can quickly get out of control. I was reading about the training for Commercial Jet pilots. They said the training for when something goes wrong is actually just to sit tight for 30 seconds and breath. That gives your brain time to calm and start to think again. They found most major accidents happened because pilots would take immediate action and often the immediate action was a fight or flight response and not a considered one. Theres quite a good facebook group called Human Factors in Diving. They discuss lots about the culture about learning from mistakes. Quite interesting.

@MrPaulcoster94

Жыл бұрын

@@waterlinestories I’ll look it up thanks 🙏 I had a go at cave diving in tulum Mexico 🇲🇽 don’t think I’m cut out for it to be honest

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

I've always avoided caves. Love wreck diving but recently I've developed a slight yearning for some more technical and challenging dives. Probably because I'm researching all these stories, I feel like an armchair warrior. Gotta get out from behind the screen and go do some exploring.

You must have see those young guys from Ukraine who try diving under Chernobyl with home made driving gear last year ?

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Crazy

@Syclone0044

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean KZread channel “KREOSAN English”?

At least in the US, law enforcement investigates crimes. once it was largely confirmed as non criminal, a law enforcement death investigation stops. A coroner’s inquest may continue on until they are satisfied the death was accidental. Any further than that would be private investigators work.

....where is the link!?! I checked the description...it's not there...???

If they were thieves it would be pretty stupid to film it and put it on YT. So seems unlikely.

I love Spelunking !! But doing it underwater?? Hard pass. It’s hard enough crawling around and making it out safe.

@SofaKingShit

Жыл бұрын

They should do a triathlon where people cave dive to a tall cliff where they free climb up a to a high plateau and then use a wing suit to fly back down again. Survivors get recognition by their fellow cave diving lunatics.

I'll never understand why more tec divers aren't on CCR's

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Slowly more are. Just quite expensive to make the shift

@joelnorton9742

Жыл бұрын

Right?! My RB is time. I like hours of dive time to get out.

You’d make a great video about the Kursk submarine disaster. I know it’d be difficult gathering evidence but your story telling style would make up for it.

I’ve dove in a decommissioned missile silo. It was awesome

@silopedia

5 ай бұрын

Valhalla, or Royal City?

Who goes without a line? Thats just crazy.

Play Stupid games win stupid prizes

0:36 Those look like ww2 reenactors

Preposterous to make such a dive without a cave reel and line. It is literally your lifeline.

Sad to say but I doubt that my home country has resources and necessary people to do any investigation without involving other countrys expert cave divers in extreme places as that

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Hmm. Interesting 🤔

Why do I see fake film scratches on the video when I watch this? Is that something you have put on for effect, or something to game or defeat the KZread algorithm somehow? Or something else?

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

It was one of my first videos and I put it on.

For lack of a cave line :(

You can generally track back out of places on land or softer land. Take some sort of trail marker. Sad .

Are you South African bru? 😁👏👋

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Yebo

Why he had not helmet and they had no guide wire we'll never know. Maybe if they had those he may be home drinking vodka. I don't understand certian decisions

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

So true. Bad decisions

How can you dive without a line?

No Link?

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Whoops! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mHWAr6p_acLHaLA.html

@ryangill2213

3 ай бұрын

It's in the description, not the comments.

Why aren’t the “ western Lawyers “ who are acting on behalf of these Somalia boat kidnappers charged with Aiding &Abetting criminal activity . Namely ,when they are acting as a“ Go-between “ in exchanging ransom money for the release of the ship & crew ..?? It would be extremely difficult to collect any financial ransom demanded for this criminal action .

Whule watching this video i farted the instant he talked about cabe divers and feecal matter tainted my pants .

Great clip, but a tip when referring to former Sovjet countries, they do not like the word comrade, compatriot or something might be better. For obvious reasons

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

Point taken

@C.O._Jones

Жыл бұрын

Good. I’ll keep calling them “comrade” and smirk knowingly.

@andrewshepherd1537

Жыл бұрын

That was one of the first lessons we learned in my Russian courses. it's a very taboo word, except with the military, and even then, it is taken in the same way as using Sir or Ma'am to sarcastically address officers. iirc, it's not even used that much in Russia these days. We only used the word once, simply to learn how to say it, and our professor made a point to correct us any time we would use it

@JuliusCaesar888

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you should call the language police to cancel Waterline.

@JohnClam

Жыл бұрын

Nah they love it. They told me. YOU just don't love it. Leave us alone bruh

You may not believe it, and honestly you may *NOT* Want To a believe It. However, You Must Look a at The Context of These Countries !!! Eastern Europe most assuredly is not comparable to Western Europe. They are not quite third world, but definitely not 1st world either !! All that metal down there !? Metal is worth a lot of money !! In a poor country !!? Metal theft is common in America / Canada / The Western World !! If it is common here, & valuable …. Imagine how valuable and common it is there !!! If they are getting even *SEMI FAIR* Prices from their buyer …. They are making really, *REALLY GOOD $* For Their Countries standards ! Hell it is good money in our country, so if they are getting semi fair prices then it is amazing money to them !!

@xdmobb17x17

11 ай бұрын

Thy recorded it tho . Come on now put your bias to the side

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It's funny because when I make content citing people who "know what happened" I'm called a crank. But this guy, he gets away with it.

Top quality KZread account! May the Algorithm Gods be with you 🫡

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

And also with you🙏

@berryreading4809

Жыл бұрын

I got recieved a random reccomendation in my feed, and now I'm binging, so I'm guessing the wave is coming! 🏄‍♂️🤙😉

@tontolado

Жыл бұрын

@@berryreading4809 THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT, the algorithm gods exist

@waterlinestories

Жыл бұрын

@@berryreading4809 Welcome to the waterline...