Mirror Janeway was a Pirate

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The Mirror Universe has introduced us to the darker versions of our characters and even during the times of Rebellion when the Terrans were the underdogs, they were never really the good guys. Mirror Universe Captain Janeway eventually rose to the rank of Marshall and served as the Delta Quadrants most notorious Pirate Queen.
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  • @joelellis7035
    @joelellis7035 Жыл бұрын

    In the Star Trek multiverse, there is a 90% correlation between Janeway and addiction to coffee.

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT Жыл бұрын

    Voyager's finale shows that Janeway can be quite a nasty one, if pressed into a corner. It would be hardly surprising to see an overtly aggressive Janeway coming from the Mirror Universe, while keeping the same traits of the Prime version

  • @LosoaII

    @LosoaII

    Жыл бұрын

    Imo there's various points in the show that presents her as someone who would go VERY far out of her way to get what she wants. Didn't she ram into the krenim ship just to make sure to kill them without even knowing it'd reset time? On the opposite end, when they were traveling across that expanse of nothing, she just locked herself up because she was bored of the idea of seeing nothing in any direction for the next 6 months to the point that the crew was somewhat annoyed that she more or less just fucked off without telling anyone aside from Tuvok? Honestly I've always liked that Janeway had a rarely seen direct and harsh side to her that you never really saw in the other Captains, only one that may have got close was Sisko and he often regretted acting like that. Janeway couldn't care less

  • @Big_Black_Dick

    @Big_Black_Dick

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LosoaII yeah women never take accountability for their emotions or actions or misdeeds or sins 🤷🏽‍♂️ typical modern women 🤔 akin to a demon lol 😂 all jokes aside tho she is very "volatile"

  • @Reddotzebra

    @Reddotzebra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LosoaII This is honestly why she's my second favorite captain of all time, right after Sisko. He hates himself for being able to accept that good people sometimes must do bad things in order to accomplish their goals, and Janeway is more of the opinion that if you can accept it, then it's all fine.

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    Жыл бұрын

    Mirror Sisko as the Ultimate Warcrimes spammer LOL.

  • @congnghequansuvn474

    @congnghequansuvn474

    Жыл бұрын

    I want a story about General Janeway of the Confederation of Earth who are still conquering the Delta squadrant

  • @CromeDomeOmega
    @CromeDomeOmega Жыл бұрын

    Pirate Captain Janeway:... THERES COFFEE ON THAT SHIP! COMMENCE RAID!😏

  • @CromeDomeOmega

    @CromeDomeOmega

    Жыл бұрын

    @Lonely Wanderer dam right it does..i could just see her saying that instead of 'theres coffee in that nebula' 😁

  • @johnpotts8308
    @johnpotts8308 Жыл бұрын

    "...she's still addicted to coffee." Some things can't change even if the rest of the Universe does!

  • @TheEventHorizon909

    @TheEventHorizon909

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably instead of black coffee it’s loaded with as much flavor as possible lol

  • @johnpotts8308

    @johnpotts8308

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheEventHorizon909 It's probably laced with PURE EVIL!

  • @cosmicquestion9184

    @cosmicquestion9184

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah, she's evil so must be drinking tea.

  • @ODST_Parker
    @ODST_Parker Жыл бұрын

    I really like Janeway in this STO storyline. Frankly, I'm tired of these cartoonishly evil Terrans who just yell about killing you painfully, over and over again. It gets tiresome very quickly. Janeway is clearly more intelligent, and more of a strategic mind than anyone else we've encountered so far. I'm curious what they'll do with her, now that she's on the run from the Emperor and is acting independently.

  • @Hartzilla2007

    @Hartzilla2007

    Жыл бұрын

    " I'm curious what they'll do with her, now that she's on the run from the Emperor and is acting independently." Can't help but think she's going to show up since the end of the last story mission went all hands on deck.

  • @shmee123ful

    @shmee123ful

    Жыл бұрын

    Well that's likely because the prime janeway did a lot of quedtional shit so it makes sense that her mirror would be among the few more reasonable mirror characters we meet

  • @hyhena-gaming9986

    @hyhena-gaming9986

    Жыл бұрын

    I wanna see an evil mirror universe epicard

  • @moon_yeka

    @moon_yeka

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. Mirror universe characters are usually so corny

  • @briankriens5645

    @briankriens5645

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, the STO Terran Empire had Mirror Wesley as the emperor so it makes sense that most of them would be mustache twirling and cartoonish just like their emperor.

  • @KuDastardly
    @KuDastardly Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad they decided to go with the Warship Voyager version of Janeway as that's how I always imagined her Mirror counterpart to look like. _"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative. Violence... Force must be applied unapologetically..."_

  • @franklynfischer5783

    @franklynfischer5783

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree. Love that episode.

  • @Evil0tto
    @Evil0tto Жыл бұрын

    I thought Mirror Janeway would be competent, caring, and an all around decent person.

  • @rojh9351

    @rojh9351

    Жыл бұрын

    And she wouldn’t kill off innocent people just to get her faves back.

  • @calanon534

    @calanon534

    Жыл бұрын

    They should have made her into an old school hippie/beatnik type. Just to fuck with people's heads. _"Wait.. if she's GOOD, then.."_

  • @boobah5643

    @boobah5643

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that it's not just the incompetent writers of the actual show that actually believe Janeway's hype, but the 'official' line seems to be that she really is what the hacks presented her as. And while I kinda like the Marshal as presented here, it would have been at least as amusing to have a kind, nice, maybe even sappy Janeway who had climbed the ranks through a combination of Flashman-style shenanigans (although in her case it would have been selfless decisions that looked ruthless to observers) and more ruthless (and aware) people who preferred her way to Imperial standard.

  • @calanon534

    @calanon534

    Жыл бұрын

    @@boobah5643 Forget amusing, after mulling it over last night, I'm convinced Mirror Janeway is somehow in the Prime Universe, and Prime Janeway is trapped in the Mirror Universe, and this has been this way for ages. Prime Janeway is a mealy mouthed pacifist with good ideas but no will to push them forward for fear of harming someone. Mirror Janeway is the one that went to the Delta Quadrant and ultimately almost destroyed the Borg. She's ruthless and pragmatic, and her "flexible moral compass" comes from her originating in a universe where that's been bred into humanity since at least the 1700s.

  • @mattrobson3603

    @mattrobson3603

    Жыл бұрын

    Depends on the week. When Prime Janeway was ruthless and sociopathic, Mirror Janeway was empathetic and caring. When Prime Janeway would offer understanding, Mirror Janeway would arm phasers.

  • @WhitzWolf92
    @WhitzWolf92 Жыл бұрын

    If anyone else is familiar with the English sea song/shanty "John Paul Jones" Cat Janeway is a pirate No loyalty does she possess Keep it up we'll catch the pirate And sink her along with the rest Set feet, row Set feet, row Set feet, row Set feet, row ...

  • @1Scimetar
    @1Scimetar Жыл бұрын

    I'd imagine that the mirror Anika Hansen looks younger than her prime counterpart. Hard to imagine S3ven didn't see some time in a maturation chamber, accelerating her aging between the ages of 8 (probably when she was grabbed) to her late teens to early twenties (when most human growth processes finish). If the mirror Anika managed to stay unassimilated and stay growing naturally, she'd probably be looking ten years younger than her prime universe counterpart when the mirror Voyager found her.

  • @thebeststooge

    @thebeststooge

    Жыл бұрын

    Great point, though that was never mentioned.

  • @saphirefoxirl

    @saphirefoxirl

    Жыл бұрын

    I think she was assimilated on her sixth birthday, not entirely certain on that though.

  • @danilejai7801

    @danilejai7801

    Жыл бұрын

    Most humans reach physical adulthood at 13/14 for girls and 15/16 for most boys. So she wouldn’t have needed to be in a growth chamber as long as you’ve theorized.

  • @1Scimetar

    @1Scimetar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danilejai7801 The brain doesn't finish forming until the early twenties, and the wrists don't finish growing until age 23. Also, female minds are one of the few parts that develop faster than in boys. Everything else has the same age based benchmarks for growth.

  • @thebeststooge

    @thebeststooge

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danilejai7801 Though would have as I swear in some episode it was said that when children were assimilated they were put in that maturation chamber.

  • @freedomstar3930
    @freedomstar3930 Жыл бұрын

    Now I can’t stop imaging “You are a pirate” playing when I hear about mirror Janeway.

  • @neilprice513
    @neilprice513 Жыл бұрын

    From the lines of dialogue in STO I took it that Marshal Janeway conquered The Borg and usurped the Borg Queen as ruler. She literally is the Borg Queen now and used that new power to gain a position of power in the Terran Empire under the Emperor. Just like Mirror Leta got power from the Pah-wraiths and became Captain of the ISS Enterprise.

  • @googleuser7454
    @googleuser7454 Жыл бұрын

    Marshall Janeway does seem to command respect. I like the route STO and the comics went with the Terrans. They are ruthless but still pragmatic and will use alien technology, alien races in their ranks, and will honor teamwork until it comes time to advance (though their seems to be suggested "rules" for when advancement is appropriate)

  • @TheSuperRatt

    @TheSuperRatt

    Жыл бұрын

    I really don't like the Terrans or mirror universe, personally. Terrans are just... Romulan/Klingon hybrids, essentially. Niches already filled by two alien civilizations. There's nothing saying those niches can't be filled in a realistic sense by more than one civilization, but in a thematic sense? Eh. In Star Trek, alien species wear their "hats", and are expected to. I don't like it, but varying from that formula makes the Terrans feel out of place.

  • @darthrevan1281

    @darthrevan1281

    Жыл бұрын

    The precedent was first set by Mirror Spock. In DS9, we find out he became Emperor. In Enterprise, we see T’pol and other Vulcan officers in the TE. So its logical to infer that the Terrans aren’t _quite_ as Space Racist as their name might suggest.

  • @googleuser7454

    @googleuser7454

    Жыл бұрын

    @@darthrevan1281 Terrans are opportunists that tend to see all non humans as lessers outside of useful individuals (usually from conquered people). The Terrans seem to assign "value" to non humans. They need labor and skill for the empire but make it known that their status (like Archer with T'Pol) or in STO (the attitudes towards Leeta and Kuumarke) can be stripped or at the very least there is bigotry towards aliens is not hidden

  • @darthrevan1281

    @darthrevan1281

    Жыл бұрын

    @@googleuser7454 Oh of course. They are racist to some degree obviously.

  • @Big_Black_Dick
    @Big_Black_Dick Жыл бұрын

    when i saw this thumbnail it tickled my brain 😂 the idea of janeway being a pirate lol that's pretty dead on, cause she's a pirate in the prime timeline 😅 the scourge of the delta quadrant lol saving the borg causing countless civilizations to fall in defeat, fall to assimilation lol all types of other shenanigans

  • @igncom1
    @igncom1 Жыл бұрын

    Unlike a lot of the other mindlessly violent Terrans, she probably learned that she isn't always the biggest fish in the pond, so showing some digression probably helps. Can't see any Janeway fighting their way out of first contact with the Voth and surviving. Knowing when not to shoot probably proved advantageous enough for her to develop an uncharacteristic level of restraint..... for a Terran.

  • @hamanu666

    @hamanu666

    Жыл бұрын

    So you're saying she was sane Janeway? Impressive.

  • @igncom1

    @igncom1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hamanu666 I can only laugh because Voyager was one of my favourite shows as a kid and people always joke like this about her. I...... I think our Janeway was perfectly reasonable!

  • @Reddotzebra

    @Reddotzebra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@igncom1 I honestly think that's why the Mirror version is as well. They are both very pragmatic people, and pragmatic people understand that you can increase your own personal power by making other people prefer it if you are alive. Something most other Terrans seem to completely disregard.

  • @ailius1520

    @ailius1520

    Жыл бұрын

    That goes full circle back to the TOS episode which introduced the Mirror Universe. All that happened was Kirk and mirror Kirk got swapped in a transporter accident. Both had to impersonate each other, but while regular Kirk was able to keep the ruse up almost the entire time with mirror Spock finally figuring it out at the end, mirror Kirk was almost immediately found out and put in the brig.

  • @striker8961

    @striker8961

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Reddotzebratotally. Checkov and some cronies just immediately try to shank Kirk in an elevator in the original mirror universe episode. Which is just not a decent way to try and increase your personal power, you’ve just rocked the boat of the very insulated starship of people relying on the command structure at present. And he thinks he’ll move up in rank? And someone will just do the same to him. Their idea of politics seems to be a never ending game of snakes and ladders where the snakes literally eat you and you will eventually run out of players.

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 Жыл бұрын

    Warship Voyager in "Living Witness" was probably the closest to a Mirror Universe Voyager they could get, given the Lore established by DS9: According to DS9 the empire had fallen, so there was no logical way for the Voyager to even _exist_ without a Imperial Starfleet. I kinda assumed that Janeway in STO traveled into the Delta Quadrant much later. Like 10-20 years later, after the Rebellion had somewhat re-established them Empire. That should not make much of a difference. Except Harry Kim being a _even older_ Ensign.

  • @Soundwave142

    @Soundwave142

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually thought that "warship voyager" was the I.S.S. Voyager.

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    Жыл бұрын

    i think the Graphic Novel version of the Terran empire being pusedh back to the Sol system and bare able to screap buy by rading the Klingon/Cardassian alliance makes much more sense. Apparently the Allaince is happy to keep the Terrans bottled up in the Sol system after multiple disastrous attempts to invade it and completly finish them off.

  • @brucemorris3830

    @brucemorris3830

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor Harry is gonna retire with full honors from Starfleet as it’s first 99 year old Ensign, isn’t he 😂 across all possible timelines

  • @christopherg2347

    @christopherg2347

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brucemorris3830 At least in Endgame he is Captain if the Rhode Island.

  • @brucemorris3830

    @brucemorris3830

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christopherg2347 you know I forgot that; and now that I think of it in Season 4-5 someplace wasn’t there another alternate timeline where Kim and Chakotay had been the two sole survivors of the Voyager? Where Harry had been promoted to commander at least? So basically every time Harry Kim gets a promotion, it breaks the entire continuum of space and time and the whole universe needs to be unplugged and rebooted 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @UGNAvalon
    @UGNAvalon Жыл бұрын

    It’d be hilarious if the Equinox, realizing that Terran supremacy was useless in the Delta Quadrant, ended up going the path of interspecies cooperation like Prime Voyager. It’d gain a reputation of a reserved yet surprisingly eager helper in order to further its goals of reaching home (as fate would decide that its journey was less harrowing than its Prime counterpart). Eventually, however, many of the species they encounter end up immediately surrendering their cargo upon hearing “ISS”, thinking that Equinox was a vanguard of the Pirate Queen’s fleet. Equinox would take advantage of this boon, of course, tho would grow wary of this “ISS Voyager” whose reputation is preceding even their own modest vessel. Inevitably, Equinox is encountered by Voyager, and Pirate Queen Janeway would sneer at how “soft” its captain & crew have gotten in their desperation. They’d be offered a place in the Pirate Fleet, of course, but more likely, they’ll be seen as a liability that would be destroyed at the first sign of treachery.

  • @JeanLucCaptain

    @JeanLucCaptain

    Жыл бұрын

    Ironically Ransom is the perfect name for a Pirate Captain.

  • @Goodiesfanful

    @Goodiesfanful

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder where the Spirits of Good Fortune and Ankari fit into the saga of mirror universe Equinox?

  • @robertsilva8097
    @robertsilva8097 Жыл бұрын

    When O'Brien went to the other universe when he went to Deep Space Nine he downloaded a lot of technical manuals about Starfleet ships one of them was the defiant he downloaded over 300 technical stuff regarding Starfleet and ships from Galaxy class ships to Excelsior class ships that's how the Rebellion got their ships from the other universe they built them in the other universe but they use the specs that O'Brien got from the other universe

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain Жыл бұрын

    Mirror Barclay is an awesome character and I like him much more than the prime Barclay as he is not a menace to the entire crew but ACTUALLY COMPETENT! hilariously he stows away on the Prime Enterprise D as a saboteur for the Mirror Picard and replaces his more idiotic self and is so much better at his job that the crew are frankly just too happy to ask any questions about how he suddenly got so much better and baddas. AND THEN he decided that he likes prime Starfleet more than the Terran Empire because they don't treat him like shit so he just stays LOL.

  • @DelcoRanz93
    @DelcoRanz93 Жыл бұрын

    Even though they've never appeared in any Mirror Universe stories, I'd be curious to hear what your take on a Mirror Universe version of Captain Ransom and the crew of the I.S.S. Equinox would be like.

  • @effrin999
    @effrin999 Жыл бұрын

    Ive been a storyboard artist and it takes alot for me to say "I wouldve worked on this unpaid scenario for free, make it so good that paramount sends lawyers"....but here i say THAT! well done.

  • @philly83
    @philly83 Жыл бұрын

    I'm always interested in anything mirror universe

  • @noneya3635
    @noneya363526 күн бұрын

    Mirror Janeway would be baking the crew cookies, drinking herbal tea, and have a goatee.

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated Жыл бұрын

    Mirror Tuvok was in DS9 though, which makes me wonder how long they could’ve spent in the Delta Quadrant…

  • @Alteringrealitystudios
    @Alteringrealitystudios Жыл бұрын

    Aww come on. The regular universe Janeway was a pirate. She just chose to play nice. Lol My favorite captain.

  • @patrickmccurry1563

    @patrickmccurry1563

    Жыл бұрын

    "Nice". She committed a lot of horrible crimes along the way, not the least of which was allying with the Borg. Numerous species would reasonably consider that an act of war.

  • @_____Neo___
    @_____Neo___ Жыл бұрын

    Suddenly from behind: "When diplomacy fails, there is only one alternative. Violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the starfleet way"

  • @sugarfrosted2005
    @sugarfrosted2005 Жыл бұрын

    I'm really curious how she met tuvok in that reality, since he was part of the resistance cell near Bajor.

  • @TMulvale
    @TMulvale Жыл бұрын

    Yes !!! More Mirror Universe characters and Ships please!!

  • @metalrob6713
    @metalrob6713 Жыл бұрын

    It disappoints me that we never get to see Mirror universe episodes in Voyager. Those could have been awesome episodes to watch.

  • @Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God

    @Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God

    Күн бұрын

    They traded DS9 for time travel shenanigans episodes 😂

  • @dibaterman
    @dibaterman Жыл бұрын

    Everytime I see the picture of Voyager with all those doohikies attached I can't help but to giggle.

  • @Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God

    @Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God

    Күн бұрын

    It's a really awful design 😂

  • @Callimo
    @Callimo Жыл бұрын

    Welp, I'm officially simping for Mirror Janeway. Step on me, Pirate Mommy 8D

  • @DaraGaming42

    @DaraGaming42

    Жыл бұрын

    i always Simp for Janeway so.....YES

  • @NeilBlumengarten
    @NeilBlumengarten Жыл бұрын

    I just got back into STO, so I'm glad to see this video.

  • @Falchion1984
    @Falchion1984 Жыл бұрын

    The second iteration of the Terran Empire is an interesting concept, but I do wish the lore would actually tells us some specifics about what happened between that lore-breaking DS9 episode where Regent Worf is captured and how the Terran Rebellion ultimately prevailed. I am also wondering if the alternate Mirror Universe presented in Dark Mirror, where the Terran Empire lasted well into the TNG era and was much larger, might present interesting possibilities for STO.

  • @chrisedmund335

    @chrisedmund335

    Жыл бұрын

    Read "Rise Like lions" it'll explain where the hell the empire could've gotten enough of the fleet to come back to its full power

  • @Falchion1984

    @Falchion1984

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrisedmund335 Gotcha, and thanks.

  • @leticiagarcia9025
    @leticiagarcia9025 Жыл бұрын

    How would this story will unfold when mirror verse Janeway welcomes mirror verse Equinox and it’s crew? Would Captain Ransom be more cunning that he will actually kill Janeway and take Voyager for himself? I’m not sure if you covered the Equinox crew.

  • @patrickmccurry1563

    @patrickmccurry1563

    Жыл бұрын

    Or would Chakotay kill Ransom seeing him as competition for second in command?

  • @leticiagarcia9025

    @leticiagarcia9025

    Жыл бұрын

    @@patrickmccurry1563 That works too. Watching this video, I couldn’t help thinking of the Equinox ship and crew.

  • @mr.google1437
    @mr.google1437 Жыл бұрын

    Just gonna say what everyone is thinking, Mirror universe pirate Janeway gonna make everyone act up. Them arms

  • @keithtorgersen9664
    @keithtorgersen9664 Жыл бұрын

    I imagine Mirror Janeway to be a lot like the in-universe fictional representation developed by the Kyrians in “Living Witness”.

  • @amazedsatsuma
    @amazedsatsuma Жыл бұрын

    That is kinda cool there is a running theme with all forms of Terran Janeway depicted in beta materials as being a Pirate of some kind...wonder how intentional these connections are from one and another

  • @g-fan863
    @g-fan863 Жыл бұрын

    Even though the mirror universe didn't appear on Voyager, I'll consider the Voyager episode of Living Witness the only mirror episode as in what if.

  • @davejones9469
    @davejones9469 Жыл бұрын

    They really should have done a mirror episode where an apathetic character is the exact same in the mirror universe. Even better, a total ass from our universe has a super pleasant alternate in the mirror world lol. Ex: Gul Dukat is the savior of Bajor, overthrowing his government and liberating Bajor lol. Also, this Janeway should've drank Irish coffees...

  • @davebathgate

    @davebathgate

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the total ass has a nice guy doppelganger is done in ds9 with liquidator Brunt.

  • @davejones9469

    @davejones9469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davebathgate It's been so long...any chance you know the episode? I love Brunt and everything Jeffrey Combs does on ST so I'd love to rewatch, just a lot of episodes to sort through. Even which season narrows it down a lot lol.

  • @davebathgate

    @davebathgate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davejones9469 mirror universe quark has to steal a cloaking device. It's a late episode as it has Ezri in it.

  • @davejones9469

    @davejones9469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davebathgate Cool thanks, I'll give it a rewatch.

  • @davebathgate

    @davebathgate

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davejones9469 no problem.

  • @starclone4
    @starclone4 Жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite versions of Captain Janeway !!!!

  • @rmeddy
    @rmeddy Жыл бұрын

    I kinda want one similar to the Janeway depicted in Living Witness

  • @Nichodo
    @Nichodo Жыл бұрын

    I could only imagine how Mirror Janeway could have handled the Krenim and their Timeship

  • @josiaharaki7310

    @josiaharaki7310

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably opted to eat Harry

  • @alexandercaires5921

    @alexandercaires5921

    Жыл бұрын

    She'd steal it, or pillage it heavily.

  • @masterofdisaster492
    @masterofdisaster492 Жыл бұрын

    I like the alternate Janeway with the guns ...

  • @shado2us
    @shado2us Жыл бұрын

    Yes to all!!! Do this as a series!!!

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Жыл бұрын

    "Janeway Jones is pirate, No loyalty does she posses, Hurry up we'll catch the pirate, And vent her along with rest."

  • @StealingTimeAtWork
    @StealingTimeAtWork Жыл бұрын

    God damn, those guns though. She clearly lifts.

  • @variaxi935
    @variaxi9355 ай бұрын

    Voyager is by far my favorite Star Trek show and it blows my mind that so many folks dislike it lol Voyager is just one large family struggling to survive together and that isolation makes the main characters feel so much more like family than it does in other treks where folks can move freely throughout alpha/beta quads with minimal fear. The Voyager crew HAS to become very close over time or they'll lose it all

  • @leonardcullarn2476
    @leonardcullarn2476 Жыл бұрын

    Yes please let's have more! I love this video.

  • @KrautGoesWild
    @KrautGoesWild Жыл бұрын

    As I am a huge fan of alternate timelines and universes: Beam over more of this! Much more 🖖😁!

  • @markthompson4225
    @markthompson4225 Жыл бұрын

    Mirror of what happened in Startrek The Motion Picture and ST 4 the Voyage Home... virtually unbeatable foes...

  • @joestraw8870
    @joestraw8870 Жыл бұрын

    You didn’t mention the Dark Passions mirror Janeway who ended up commanding the IKS Voyager under Intendant Seven. Think there was an image on the front cover of Dark Passions book 2.

  • @drhacknslashzombietimelord6768
    @drhacknslashzombietimelord676814 күн бұрын

    In the VOYAGER episode LIVING WITNESS, even though the first depiction of Janeway is fictionalized by the descendants of the people in the conflict that Voyager had gotten involved with, I think it's a good depiction of what the mirror Janeway might have been like.

  • @alphabetsoup3610
    @alphabetsoup3610 Жыл бұрын

    I understand the appeal of alternate universes to some people. But seeing as the entire franchise is being forcibly held under the boot of the Kurtzman alternate universe at the moment, it's kind of a touchy subject for a lot of us.

  • @Sky_Guy
    @Sky_Guy Жыл бұрын

    Holy moly that thumbnail, more like Captain Gainsway.

  • @Banix16
    @Banix16 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Please do more mirror universe characters. LLAP 🖖

  • @simpsonfan13
    @simpsonfan13 Жыл бұрын

    "The mirror GOOD Janeway..." - Lore Reloaded

  • @aredub1847
    @aredub1847 Жыл бұрын

    i believe i read this theory. perhaps on 3/4 sites.

  • @joeedh
    @joeedh Жыл бұрын

    This would make a great TV series.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of a piratical Janeway 🙂.

  • @shiningarmor2838
    @shiningarmor2838 Жыл бұрын

    2:54 get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head GET OUT OF MY HEAD

  • @jamalrobinson8321
    @jamalrobinson8321 Жыл бұрын

    Pirate Janeway looks badass

  • @starhound9354
    @starhound9354 Жыл бұрын

    I would be quite interested in a mirror Picard, maybe he despies the flute?

  • @interstellarsurfer

    @interstellarsurfer

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe Wesley is forced to play his flute. 🤷‍♂️

  • @danielsuarez3198

    @danielsuarez3198

    Жыл бұрын

    Well according to the novelisation he was an arqueologist and then an captain when the Terran empire was restored after the Terran rebellion won. But not much after that

  • @Rubix003

    @Rubix003

    Жыл бұрын

    He is the emperor

  • @peterdanior4538
    @peterdanior4538 Жыл бұрын

    Yes more mirrorverse versions please

  • @jeova0sanctus0unus
    @jeova0sanctus0unus10 ай бұрын

    "She is also very much addicted to coffe" constants and variables.

  • @timothypage252
    @timothypage2525 ай бұрын

    27 millennia later, the Emperor of Man launches his Great Crusade to reunite the once-more shattered realms of Mankind...

  • @siennility4706
    @siennility4706 Жыл бұрын

    You never said what happened to the Caretaker's Array in this timeline. Did she perhaps destroy it when the Kazon showed up so that they would not get their hands on it, or did she have the chance to threaten and coerce people with it first?

  • @funnyvalentine6896

    @funnyvalentine6896

    Жыл бұрын

    From what I’ve read in the books which are no longer canon voyager destroyed the caretaker array and obliterated the planet it was watching over from orbit

  • @festerblatz
    @festerblatz Жыл бұрын

    I'd very much like to see more of these. Very interesting lore. All the mirror universe stuff is great. Remember Keiko showing her stomach in Enterprise? That's some sexy acting.

  • @tifreak8x
    @tifreak8x Жыл бұрын

    No coverage of the Janeway in Shatner's books? Sad. I need to get those books again, they were fun to read ^^

  • @DaraGaming42

    @DaraGaming42

    Жыл бұрын

    what is she like ?

  • @CloneShockTrooper
    @CloneShockTrooper Жыл бұрын

    Good 😊 video

  • @timbert4672
    @timbert4672 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting that you mention Star Trek Timelines as I have both the Warship Voyager and the ISS Defiant on that, they make great PvP combat ships.

  • @firefreak122
    @firefreak122 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the video

  • @Syndr1
    @Syndr110 ай бұрын

    Hi Cert, Now this Voyager i would have liked more.

  • @shadowbeast2276
    @shadowbeast22768 ай бұрын

    Interesting This makes an interesting interation of Janeway

  • @benw9949
    @benw9949 Жыл бұрын

    Given that Mirror Tuvok is in the resistance at Terok Nor in DS9, does this mean he had a duplicate somehow who went with the ISS Voyager? Or from the DS9 Mirror stories, should we guess that any ISS Voyager and crew met a different fate? Also, does Mirror Harry Kim stay an Ensign, or does he somehow move up in rank, better at it than Chekov's failed attempt? :) Or what about Naomi Wildman or Icheb and the other Borg children? Vicious feral Mirror children? -- For that matter, what would Mirror Borg be like? Hmm, or Mirror Talaxians? Instead of like an overgrown puppy-dog, more like a lean junkyard dog? I'm not sure I'd want to run up against a Mirror Des, given the powers she started manifesting before she left. Interesting stuff.

  • @pkg24
    @pkg24 Жыл бұрын

    Mirror verse Janeway never lost control of her ship. I swear the number of times Voyager was hijacked!

  • @TalexTheLich
    @TalexTheLich Жыл бұрын

    God I love mirror universe stuff, it's always fun

  • @KnightOwl1881
    @KnightOwl1881 Жыл бұрын

    Video idea….Who do you think the Emperor is in STO? Do you think it will be revealed?

  • @eddieschwab864
    @eddieschwab864 Жыл бұрын

    There's coffee in that Caretaker array, and in those Kazon ships..

  • @mrandmrsduquette1904
    @mrandmrsduquette1904 Жыл бұрын

    We NEED more story for this crew.

  • @briankriens5645
    @briankriens5645 Жыл бұрын

    Admiral and Marshall Janeway are great characters.

  • @brandeni1785
    @brandeni1785 Жыл бұрын

    I always like the Mirror Universe episodes.

  • @BrowncoatInABox
    @BrowncoatInABox Жыл бұрын

    And she's still addicted to coffee" glad some things never change

  • @joseaguilar3323
    @joseaguilar3323 Жыл бұрын

    I hope they one day adapt those comics into animated movies while all the actors can repraise their roles.

  • @charliecarstensen8837
    @charliecarstensen8837 Жыл бұрын

    That would be awesome

  • @jamieholmes6087
    @jamieholmes6087 Жыл бұрын

    Look at those arms!

  • @stevengalloway8052
    @stevengalloway8052 Жыл бұрын

    😳 Oh, Lord...Marshall Janeway is addicted to...COFFEE?! 😆

  • @hopefulmonster
    @hopefulmonster Жыл бұрын

    Amusing how the older Pirate Janeway looks like Flemeth from Dragon Age.

  • @jm823
    @jm823 Жыл бұрын

    Janeway always had the dark soul of a pirate it just took the dark universe to truly bring it out.

  • @Doiknowyou566
    @Doiknowyou566 Жыл бұрын

    I know I’m late but a video on alternate, alternate Janeway could be fun.

  • @megatronjenkins2473
    @megatronjenkins2473 Жыл бұрын

    If Mirror Janeway WASN'T addicted to coffee as well, I'd call bullshtako on this whole thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @OneTrueEdge
    @OneTrueEdge Жыл бұрын

    I just happily assumed Janeway's Mirror version would be very similar to what we saw in Living Witness.

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven Жыл бұрын

    80, 100 years after Kirk it is inaccurate to speak of THE mirror'verse. There have been divergences. There will be timelines were the Terran Empire didn't fully fall, just was reduced and is pushing back as we see with the ISS Voyager. There is no way that can be the same mirror'verse that we saw in DS9, but a different one. Personally, I've always wondered if the Kurians (sp) had a thin spot between uiverses, so their Doc is our Doc, but the other data is a mirror'verse's. So they're both telling the truth, and we have seen a mirror Janeway as an Imperial Captain who is claiming whatever it takes to get home. Spock's reforms, but still as ruthless a wasp.

  • @Irongrip62
    @Irongrip6211 ай бұрын

    Swole Janeway isn't real, she can't hurt you. Meanwhile Swole Janeway:

  • @LMG1792
    @LMG1792 Жыл бұрын

    Love the marshal

  • @SuperlativeCG
    @SuperlativeCG Жыл бұрын

    It's something to think about.

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 Жыл бұрын

    very curious of the mirror data and the whol soong line of droids in the mirrorverse and other possible alt realities including the kelvinverse also.

  • @marshallhuffer4713
    @marshallhuffer4713 Жыл бұрын

    Mirror Janeway is swole.

  • @teaganvids1013
    @teaganvids1013 Жыл бұрын

    I think it would be a cool video to see and speculate on what a kelvin timeline Uss Enterprise Ncc-1701-D and an Ncc-1701-E would look like

  • @dragoontype00alphaz19

    @dragoontype00alphaz19

    Жыл бұрын

    Well someone did a kelvin timeline Excelsior it looked pretty nice not to sure what ambassador would look like or the Galaxy glass sovereign class tho thing about Kelvin timeline is their Useing bits of technology from 24th prime timeline so my guess likely be more advanced anyway that lest from what read years ago the some Borg tech in all Kelvin timeline ships

  • @ShadeNightwolf
    @ShadeNightwolf Жыл бұрын

    Okay the mystery of who the Terran Emperor is in STO better be revealed soon! I could only hazard a guess to whom he might be.

  • @Rubix003

    @Rubix003

    Жыл бұрын

    Picard.

  • @josiaharaki7310

    @josiaharaki7310

    Жыл бұрын

    Has Mirror Picard been shown yet?

  • @DaraGaming42

    @DaraGaming42

    Жыл бұрын

    Mirror Hary Kim ( he needed a promtion) or Mirror Jake Sisko angry that the propehts took his father.

  • @lillith3159
    @lillith3159 Жыл бұрын

    i can picture mirror Janeway´s ship shooting kindergardens to enemy ships

  • @christiankolbesberger2980
    @christiankolbesberger29808 ай бұрын

    Since you've asked, I'd really like it if you would do Videos on Mirror Spock and Mirror Wesley Crusher

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