Two quick points to avoid confusion: 1. I believe Balaam's donkey talked because I think Jesus is God, rose from the dead, and he believed the Old Testament was inspired by God. The point is I would not ask a skeptic to begin their inquiry into miracles by starting with this particular miracle. 2. Here’s how the resurrection passes the filter, and so is worthy of investigation: The original claim was reportedly made in Jerusalem just weeks after the crucifixion. It was preached to a hostile audience that would have been eager to disprove it. This is a significant claim since Jesus was a prophet who came to fulfill the law and bring in the new covenant, which shows us how our sins can be forgiven, how God no longer lives in temples but human hearts, and how we can have eternal life. He also was the Messiah and claimed to be God. Jesus and his disciples did not live for self-gain; they were willing to endure suffering, hard work, dangers, and even death. They weren’t seeking power, fame, personal glory, or any other worldly rewards.

@CJFCarlsson

27 күн бұрын

And you are right!

@geochonker9052

27 күн бұрын

Ohh ok. Smart!

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border Your O and S are disproved by the story itself. Both before and after Jesus's death the disciples didn't understand what was going on. Peter sternly rebukes Jesus for saying he would die, so sternly that Jesus says, "get thee behind me Satan." Afterwards they are hiding in the upper room for fear of the Jews because disciples of false Messiahs were usually executed. It wasn't until Jesus appeared to them and again walked them through the OT to show them everything that pertained to Him that it finally clicked. Your U is just an arbitrary selection of details. There are lots of details about the event itself. The stone gets rolled away by an angel, the guards are struck as dead men, the linen cloth is folded. Certainly no one witnessed him come back to life, but there are quite a few specific details that make that conclusion virtually certain.

@JM-jj3eg

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border Let me respond to your points: O - the pre-resurrection ministry of Jesus ended in abysmal failure, by human standards. One of the Twelve denied Jesus - all of them ran away when Jesus was crucified, and they were the inner circle! The point is, the day after the crucifixion - on Holy Saturday - there were exactly zero people who believed in Jesus as Messiah. There were some who were sympathetic to Him personally, there were some who saw Him as a prophet (see Luke 24:19) - but just another prophet in a long line from Moses to John the Baptist . Nobody was expecting His resurrection, any more than they would expect Moses to rise from the dead. U - This is in the context of the maximal data case which argues for the high reliability of the Gospels, which contain the detailed accounts of people seeing Jesus in large groups, touching Him, having long conversations with Him etc. The minimal facts argument doesn't pass this filter, because 1 Corinthians 15 alone gives us no details. S - The apostles, those who claimed to witness the resurrection are described as leading the following lifestyle: 1 Corinthians 4:11-13 "To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world-right up to this moment." Granted, Paul may be exaggerating a bit - he can be a bit of a drama queen. But can you imagine these words coming from the mouth of Joseph Smith or Muhammed? We can't doubt the sincerity of the apostles. They believed what they said, whether they were mistaken or not. But for these other religious leaders, there's always the sneaking suspicion that they knew themselves to be baloney, but play the game for sex, money or power.

@StupedantWaffle

27 күн бұрын

In response to you: O- the disciples did doubt both Mary Magdalane and the other Mary when they were told of the resurrection (Mark 16:11). As a matter of fact they did not believe that He resurrected until he appeared to them while they were eating. He even rebuked them for their unbelief (Mark 16:14).

I love that you have examples for each letter in DOUBTS

@Walleyedwosaik

9 күн бұрын

I love that none of them are Christian

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence is just another way to say that i will never believe in a miracle

@LanguageBLOX1_Alt

27 күн бұрын

@@torontocitizen6802 Jesus spoke about this somewhere

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

@@torontocitizen6802 why? you'll just reject it.

@harrygarris6921

27 күн бұрын

@@torontocitizen6802 there’s plenty of testimonial evidence. If what you’re asking for is scientific proof, then you’re making a categorical error.

@vs6300

27 күн бұрын

​​@@torontocitizen6802 Miracles is family business. You don't get to experience when you don't belong and it's also not for display.

@Eliza-rg4vw

27 күн бұрын

The quote just points out a simple thing we use in our everyday lives. Would you believe someone if they said a meteor fell on their house this morning? Perhaps, but only with valid evidence of course. Admittedly, this does get difficult with claims that go well beyond a meteor strike. This would probably be because alternative explanations to the claim start to be just as ridiculous as the claim itself. However, it does not therefore validate any ridiculous claim, you're still gonna likely hinge on the one that clings the most to reality (as you know it of course). As an atheist has no reason to assume God then, it just doesn't allow them to validate the resurrection as the claim as it's normally put forth requires God to exist.

TIm Mcgrew: creates a religiously neutral set of standards that are logical on their own Skeptics: "That's awfully convenient for Christians...." Gee I freaking wonder why.

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

So tell me what's wrong with the criteria, don't just say "well Tim already believes in the resurrection, therefore sus." What we’re essentially doing here is attempting to eliminate alternative explanations by looking for red flags. False memory and exaggeration are likely problematic, which is why we exclude events that are very late or far removed in time, where details could easily be stretched without verification (belated reports (B) and distant reports (D)). Fraud is also taken into account by the criteria regarding preexisting opinions (O) and self-serving claims (S). Mundane natural events mistaken as miracles are considered with the uncertain or undetailed events (U) criterion.

@Yipper64

26 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics yeah, its all very logical and based.

@skueky8181

26 күн бұрын

⁠@@TestifyApologetics I think Yipper64 was saying that Christianity passes the evidence-based DOUBTS system because Christianity is true

@murrayrothtard6072

12 күн бұрын

@@skueky8181that’s what I thought as well.

@valinorean4816

13 сағат бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics Just found this channel. I only have one question, how do you know the miracles of Jesus weren't staged and spread as fake rumors by the local Roman government, to promote this pacifist preacher and his sect - as explained in "The Gospel of Afranius"? (This work was even praised in "Nature", look it up!) I read that book as a little kid and this is what I have always believed about Jesus. How is this wrong? What am I missing?

Lord hear my prayers. I’m so discouraged as a single mother trying to make it on my own both of my sons are special needs. Jesus help me. I’m constantly struggling to buy groceries, struggling to pay bills I’m overwhelmed Lord but with you by my side Lord I cannot fail. So as I continue to struggle to provide for my children, I keep faith and know a blessing is on the way.❤️💕

@iwatchyoutube9425

27 күн бұрын

Lord have mercy

@paytonnorris8129

26 күн бұрын

Go to an Christian Orthodox Church

@AdamCrawfordFitness

26 күн бұрын

But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly -Matthew 6:6 I have been young, and now am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, Nor his descendants begging bread. -psalm 37:25

@KrelpDee

26 күн бұрын

Im Christian too but I feel like actually praying that instead of commenting it would do more…

@paytonnorris8129

26 күн бұрын

@@KrelpDee this was unnecessary, you just wanted to insult this man and slander him. Just leave him alone

These short videos have been such a valuable resource for sending to skeptics and seekers

@AnHebrewChild

27 күн бұрын

What have these people's responses been? I imagine they have varied...

Nobody: Testify at 1:16 "Tim McGrew is the King of making paper airplanes."

It is a little funny watching a video giving a method to decide which miracles are worth investigating only for some comments to go "Nope, demons and devils can create miracles for other religions. Only miracles that prove Christianity true can be real and righteous." Ah well, if you already believe you have the perfect answer, looking around at other peoples answers seems fruitless at best and stupendous at worst, in regards to truth seeking.

You truly are the cosmic skeptic. Nice video

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

Haha

@user-pt2gf2ou5d

26 күн бұрын

​@@TestifyApologeticsI can see how religion can give joy as a non believer but I don't see many non tolerate athetist who scorns the ideas religion present on paper

@madewhole-ev4uy

25 күн бұрын

@@user-pt2gf2ou5dwhat’s your point

@kenilord1529

17 күн бұрын

@@user-pt2gf2ou5d can you elaborate please brother?

@austinschwartz7424

15 күн бұрын

​@@TestifyApologetics I just discovered a rebuttal to the Texan sharp shooter argument. To assume that D.O.U.B.T.S is a sharp shooter argument because it's gives Christians a pass, is in fact a Texan sharp shooter fallacy. If atheists can't come up with a reason to dismantle the D.O.U.B.T.S argument other then a Christian made it up, your assuming it's false because it points to Christianity not because it's illogical.

I always find these videos very insightful, even if I don't always agree with everything said. Thank you!

God acting within nature isn’t “breaking” the laws of nature. The laws of nature are contingent on God not the other way around.

@RodMartinJr

27 күн бұрын

Ah, but it is breaking the laws of nature; yet you are right that all of nature is contingent on God! If a ball will continue rolling downhill by the "laws of nature," but God intervenes and suddenly the ball returns to the top of the hill without any visible means of intervention, then this is "breaking the laws of nature" in a very real sense. The laws of nature are *_Deterministic_* and bound by *_Continuity._* This is the very nature of *_Cause-and-Effect_* (a fundamental dichotomy of nature). *_God, Spirit and Heaven,_* however, are NOT deterministic, and are *_Discontinuous._* They are marked by *_Cause-and-Free Will._* In other words, Nature is *_Opposite_* to Heaven in all its characteristics. While God has the traits of Love, Responsibility, Humility, Confidence and Spirit, Nature has the opposite traits of Space, Time, Energy, Mass and Ego. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

@juansolo3227

22 күн бұрын

Yes, the laws of nature are upheld and maintained by God. However, who is to say that God must work within them. God can manipulate circumstance so that it comes about naturally as well as manipulate the laws themselves.

@RodMartinJr

21 күн бұрын

@@juansolo3227 Indeed. God created Nature as a deterministic, RIGID structure with only one dimension of Free Will -- whether or not to remain in the physical universe. Those who choose evil will remain in nature. Those who choose TRUTH will return to Spirit. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

@juansolo3227

21 күн бұрын

@@RodMartinJr you’re not implying that the physical world is evil right? It sounds like you think we escape matter, we get new physical bodies as Christians, matter isn’t evil, our rebellion is.

@RodMartinJr

21 күн бұрын

@@juansolo3227 Physical matter IS rebellion! *_God is Love,_* but Space is anti-love because it separates us. *_God is Responsibility,_* but Time is anti-responsibility because it removes the point of responsibility from the present, creating persistence. Christ told us that the Truth will set us free; and this Truth is the Responsibility which removes the irresponsibility of Time from any object or condition. *_God is Humility,_* but Energy is anti-humility because it boasts of the ability to do many things (money, power, etc). *_God is Confidence,_* but Mass is anti-confidence because it ensnares spirit even ensnaring light itself at the level of a Black Hole. *_God is Spirit,_* but Ego is anti-spirit because it is pure darkness -- a combination of ALL of the above: Space, Time, Energy, Mass. So, tell me how Nature is NOT evil. The only dichotomous thing described in the Garden of Heaven was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. That's NATURE -- Action-Reaction, Good-Evil, Responsible-Irresponsible, Wisdom-Stupidity, Compassion-Indifference, Love-Hate,... ...while spirit is *_Non-Dichotomous:_* Action, Good, Responsible, Wisdom, Compassion, Love, Generosity, Gratitude, Taking Charge, Competence, etc. These are the perfections of earthly "good." 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

This is a fantastic video. One of your best I’ve seen, as I do believe it to be very fair. Well done.

I recall Richard Carrier said something like. 1. Nature we do understand. 2. Nature we don’t understand. 3. Humans we know use technology we understand to do things 4. Humans we know using secret tech 5. Secret human groups using super tech. 6. Aliens using super tech, to do things we don’t understand. 7. Than the supernatural. In short-he is basically saying the standard for miracles is so high that he will never accept them. When I read this on his blog, it was eye opening. Some atheists are just never going to be open to argument.

@lordinvictus793

27 күн бұрын

In principle, maybe. In practice, it can always be claimed it’s some sort of natural phenomena or aliens or time traveling humans. The bar is set so high that nothing would be enough, short of the second coming itself. He’s basically moved the goalposts across the entire country, and then expects his interlocutors to meet the distance.

@AnHebrewChild

27 күн бұрын

... if they hear not the Law & the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead. *Luk**16:31*

@AnHebrewChild

27 күн бұрын

@user-dy3uh why do you say, "I didn't know you could change the Bible"? What are you talking about?

@AnHebrewChild

27 күн бұрын

@user-dy3uh I quoted it from memory and put "law" in for "Moses" Jesus often uses the two terms law & Moses interchangeably (Moses being used in many places as a synecdoche, similar to how the psalms is a synecdoche for the writings in Luke24:44), he often refers to it as the 'law of Moses' (eg Luk2:22, John7:23) as well as uses the couplet "the law and the prophets" as descriptive of the Hebrew Scriptures (eg Mat5:17, 7:12) and even a couple paragraphs earlier, in Luke 16:16, he uses the term "law and prophets" to refer to the very thing Abraham in the parable refers to. (Luk16:31) "The law and the prophets" means the Hebrew Scriptures. "Moses and the prophets" means the Hebrew Scriptures. Sometimes my memory gets fuzzy tho. Good looking out. Cheers

@gergelymagyarosi9285

27 күн бұрын

​@user-dy3uh ...and that is called Doyle's fallacy.

These are excellent videos. I saw the thumbnail and I went “You know this guy has some good other videos I wonder how he answers this one” and it was very satisfying

Your channel has UNIQUE content, good work

If the double standard is that Biblical miracles require a lack of obvious biases and nonsense testimony, then isn't that a good thing? Why would a skeptic still feel the need to object?

@jor-eld9093

20 күн бұрын

some people want to be right now matter what

Watched the original video just an hour ago! The second I saw the title, I hoped you would bring up DOUBTS again, because its a very sound concept

Good video. It's cool you're up front about the arguments and address them in logical way

This is a cool acronym that I haven’t heard before. It’s a good launching point in understanding your own beliefs and those of others

Thank you for your movies. Please, make a movie about the book of Daniel. Debunk all critics claims against the book of Daniel. We need this. Greetings from Poland and Thank You for this channel.

@TestifyApologetics

25 күн бұрын

Someday I'd like to. In the meantime, here's a blog post from my friend Jonathan McLatchie. I hope you find it helpful. jonathanmclatchie.com/the-authenticity-of-the-book-of-daniel-a-survey-of-the-evidence/

How can God heal some random believer but not heal children with cancer?

@TestifyApologetics

23 күн бұрын

God does heal some children with cancer. Lisa Larios was healed of a reticulum cell sarcoma when she was 12 years old for just one example

@Kronoblade99

23 күн бұрын

Okay, but why just her? Why not the entire population that has cancer?

@Jesusiscomingback-jc8nf

22 күн бұрын

Because we live in a fallen world every time we sin we prove we are born with it and have consciously rebelled against God we’re lucky he still reveals himself, we’re still allowed to be here, and he gives us a chance at an underserved eternal life the only rule if we accept his gift and repent

@scottanno8861

20 күн бұрын

​@@Kronoblade99I dunno, maybe it's because NOBODY lives forever bro, the cancer kids are victims of something called mortality. So unless you solve that, what ethical difference is there in the end if you end your misery sooner rather than later? Huh?

@Kronoblade99

19 күн бұрын

@@scottanno8861 My issue isn't the mortality. My issue is apologists using specific miracle claims as evidence for the Christian god existing. These are the same people that say god cannot alleviate suffering because it interferes with free will, yet they want to use secluded cases of miracle claims to make their case of his existence. Which is it? Can god alleviate suffering for certain specific people or not at all?

This series is amazing

*_Love the lessons in Critical Thinking!_* BUT it is ironic that the filter would be named "DOUBTS;" for the study of miracles becomes much more difficult when the researcher uses a potent *_Negative Bias,_* rather than a Neutral Attitude. The reason why scientists cannot do research on spiritual things (miracles, etc.) is because of their flawed paradigm of discovery -- skepticism, with its potent negative bias of "doubt." The best way to throw "water" on the "fire" of a miracle is to use the *_Wrong Ingredient_* -- the opposite of the *_Faith_* required to perform a miracle. What skeptics get wrong about *_Everything_* is their penchant to dismiss (as if debunked) anything they disbelieve. The *_Proper_* (scientific) stance is one of saying, "I don't know." Otherwise, by claiming that something is "impossible" or "never happened," the skeptic is claiming for himself a form of *_Omniscience,_* which is a miraculous ability in itself. For how else could they KNOW that something is "impossible" or "never happened" unless they had the superior knowledge of God? 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

Wow... What a glorious achievement! To find Testify vid this quickly... 😂

Why a trivial miraculous event should be ruled out. That criteria seems to be arbitrary to me. How can we say what is trivial or not trivial? Let’s grant that there are supernatural beings, but why assume that one category of miracles is trivial and the other is not? Who are we to say that a supernatural being should perform this specific category of miracle to be believable?

It's pretty trippy that when you brought up one of the letters I automatically jumped to the story about the donkey lol, then later discovering it was one of the examples you mentioned was funny

@darkblade4340

26 күн бұрын

Which letter does it supposedly fail?

It would be great if you made a video on examining miracles on other religions, but miracles with good evidence, the ones that are really challenging. If we can refute them, it would be so profitable to our faiths.

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

I would love to hear about them. I haven't found anything in another faith that passes this criteria yet.

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

the Bible leaves plenty of room for miracles in other religions because the false gods are demons masquerading as gods. It even predicts that the world will be deceived by miracles and accept the mark of the beast.

@fundamentality

27 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics Same here. I’m finding a lot of stuff from different denominations in Christianity, but not much outside of Christianity. If this is true, it’s a ridiculously strong argument for Christianity 🤔

@Ben_of_Milam_Music

27 күн бұрын

random, but I personally think the reason why there are so many religions is because humans have a natural inclination to seek out God. Demons capitalize on this inclination by pretending to be God, and leading people astray en masse. Their goal is not so much to be worshipped as divinity, but to separate humanity from the one true God. While I'm certain that some non-Christian religions worship the one true God under a different name, often the true divinity is buried under a lot of unrelated rituals or beliefs that have nothing at all to do with serving God (hence why we needed Jesus to set the record straight and form a new covenant; Judaism had become bloated and was more about following a strict set of rules than it was about loving God). I think Buddhism and Hinduism are good examples of religions that were originally about the one true God, but became twisted over time and are in need of reform. Both of them feature a form of the Holy Spirit in some capacity, and Buddha's life and teachings being remarkably similar to Christian prophets.

@AnHebrewChild

27 күн бұрын

Why would it be profitable to the Christian faith to refute the miracle claims of other religions? Genuinely curious. Thank you.

Great video!

To put the acronym in points: D. O. U. B. T. S. Distance: The miracle happens far from the first to tell it. Opinions: Basically confirmation bias. Undetailed Events: Basically one sentence description of what happened. Belated Reports: The first story happens centuries after the initial event. Trivial Miracles: It doesn't change life too much. Self Serving: It directly benefits the one telling it. (I feel like T is a weird standard because penicillin affects many lives but we had to discover fungi as a species first and I'm certain no one was deeply affected by fungi upon its initial discovery. We never know what information will be useful or when it will be useful.)

Yes, I think the things included in the DOUBTS acronym are probably red flags. But, for me at least, there seems to be an obvious omission. I think we should also be sceptical of accounts that aren't first-hand eye-witness testimony. The Gospels don't appear to be first-hand eye-witness testimony. They don't speak in the first person (e.g. I saw Jesus perform miracles), but rather the third person. And I think they follow the supposed travels of Jesus through encounters with various other people, without there always being some particular person present who might have been identified as the author. Imagine a witness being called to the stand in a trial, and offering an account of something that they didn't experience themselves, without even saying where they heard it from. I think we would be right to be sceptical. But I think this is essentially the situation with the Gospels.

@TestifyApologetics

25 күн бұрын

You're just wrong about the Gospels. See my previous 2 playlists.

@jamesc3505

25 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics: I watched a couple of your previous videos, where the titles suggested they were Gospel related. There were several mentions of aspects of Gospel accounts that you say aligned with other accounts, the local geography, customs of the time, and archaeological evidence. I'll assume you're right on these matters. I guess it does add some credence to the accounts, but I think many of the things you mention don't really add very much credence. On the face of it, it does seem impressive that the Gospels would align on details in ways that are arcane to us, who belong to a different cultural context. I assume many of these things would have been fairly common knowledge within their cultural context, however. e.g. if you were to hear a couple of accounts of the occurrences on a day, and one account mentioned that people opened presents in the morning, and another account mentioned that they went carolling in the evening, you would see that both implied that the day was on or around Christmas, so they agreed, and that would lend some credence. But it wouldn't have been very difficult for someone in your cultural context to make them agree, so you wouldn't take that as strong evidence that everything in the accounts were true.

I see themhope bringers to me that faith with context will guide me to a better life

Now that smartphone cameras and video recording has become virtually ubiquitous, the miraculous claims of supernatural healing and miracles seemingly vanished overnight.

@TestifyApologetics

22 күн бұрын

I guess Duane Miller doesn’t count.

@Daniel-mw7pu

22 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics There was an infamous incident at Church On The Way in Van Nuys, CA where a “prophet” came and prayed for the head pastor’s son-in-law and declared a divine destiny over him. When the prophet said “amen!” The son in law dropped dead in front of everyone. Afterwards, the pastor said satan killed that man because he saw his destiny. Robbie Dawkins has a similar story where a church he visited asked for an apology because he declared a divine destiny over a man who died two weeks later. Dawkins claimed that Satan killed that man. And you only have to stretch these kinds of mental gymnastics a little further to say that Satan stole the 2020 US presidential election from Trump when all the prophecies failed.

@TestifyApologetics

22 күн бұрын

wow so there was a bad example of a miracle account, therefore it's all false. good generalization there. Did you look up the account of Duane Miller yet, or did you just mean to come here and disingenuously change the subject b/c you like to clown around?

@Daniel-mw7pu

22 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics Yes, I know about it. It's not definitive proof of a miracle. He got his voice back. That's a pretty common event. No miraculous healing required. I've been to Bethel, Hillsong, the Vineyard, AoG, Foursquare churches and the thing I observed over time is that claims of miracles are often wildly exaggerated, and when something happens that shatters the illusion, it's ignored completely. There's a great book on it called "A Diagram of Fire." it chronicles the kind of supposed supernatural manifestations that we see in Charismatic churches.

@Daniel-mw7pu

22 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics my point is, people can sincerely believe in the miraculous even though it’s demonstratively false, and I don’t have to assume malicious motivations on their part.

I came into this wary, expecting yet another athiesm dump on Christianity and the Resurrection. I'm glad it was not that, and instead this level of quality. Great work.

I highly recommend everyone to watch the debate between Tim McGrew and Zachary Moore which discusses the D.O.U.B.T.S filter in more detail and deals with objections to it. Great video btw, Erik! Succinct and informative

There is also the idea of looking at mutually exclusive religions first, cause you could believe in something like the Egyptian and Greek pantheon at the same time, be a Buddhist and Norse, Hindu and Aztec, but not any of the Abrahamic ones and another.

the whole "but miracles in other religions" is kind of a what aboutism anyways. unless the atheist is trying to prove that miracles in other religions did happen and is willing to go the distance to white knight for these miracles it is irrelevant to the conversation i am in no way shape or form obligated to try and debunk something the atheist doesn't believe in himself and only obligated to defend my claims and beliefs not anyone else

@jamesc3505

26 күн бұрын

I don't see a problem with it. If Christians set the bar low for accepting miracles, then they ought to accept miracles from other religions, otherwise their position's inconsistent. I think Christians rely on similar logic when they argue that atheists can't have morality unless they believe in a god. Using your position, I think atheists could say unless Christians are willing to go the distance to argue for moral nihilism, then the argument is irrelevant, and no more need be said about it.

Decent filter for nonsense claims, but the resurrection miracle claim is still getting stuck in the filter for me. Though to be fair, I took this miracle claim very seriously for 20+ years of my life, and so I’ve not just cast it aside without examining it.

@Deinz1024

26 күн бұрын

Out of curiosity I ask: What's making it stuck in the filter for you?

@sulk7080

26 күн бұрын

@@Deinz1024 I don't view the accounts of the Gospels as historical, and there are textual discrepancies in details that don't lend to the historical credibility of the four books when seen as a whole. I consider that already on the same level or worse than the U in this D.O.U.B.T.S. -- in so far as it is detailed, but the details change often significantly between the accounts, and they even sometimes differ with set-in-stone historical dates, like the death of Herod and the Syrian census of Quirinius. The claims in the Bible that there were reports of witnessing the risen Christ don't really amount to actual reports either, in my mind. You can suppose that they do, but there's no way to find out for sure from what we have. That renders the Gospels at least a bit belated, by a handful of decades-- which renders me a bit perplexed as to why we wouldn't have more contemporaneous sources. Honestly, the miracle claims in the Bible are very very familiar to me, and I understand that there's hardly a way to falsify them without suppositions, and there's hardly a way to justify them either without suppositions. It's a supposition game, I suppose.

@fluffysheap

26 күн бұрын

​@@sulk7080 The death of Herod is far less set in stone than you think. He actually died in 1 BC. This atheist claim is one of the more preposterous ones. Here are the two problems. First, the death of Herod is not given as a year, but recorded relative to an eclipse. In 4 BC there was technically an eclipse, but it was minor and most people who were not astrologers would likely not have even noticed it. In 1 BC there was a spectacular eclipse. Yet the atheists and so-called scholars insist that the minor one is the one being referenced. The other problem is that the supposed early date requires a large number of very significant events (requiring many people to travel great distances) to all happen within a few weeks. It would not realistically have been possible. Instead these events needed to play out over a period of a couple of years. Sorry for the lack of detail in the second paragraph as I don't have time to refresh my memory right now. It involved Herod's mourning period and tributes.

It would be interesting to investigate what miracles outside of Christianity pass the filter

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

I'd like to know that too

Great video. Do you believe that some healing miracles that happened at Lourdes are genuine?

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

Absolutely I do. They meet a very stringent criteria. Stay tuned, I'll discuss one of them I think is very well-evidenced.

This is so good. Tim McGrew is really something. 🔥🧠

Evidence for God : Orthodox Christianity

Atheist more so will find truth in aliens than what's under their nose.

@coffeehousedialogue5684

25 күн бұрын

Right? They are willing to believe any number of whacky ideas that are convenient for them, yet they accuse us of that? Irony!

@charfu

25 күн бұрын

God is an alien. Whether he's extradimensonal or an AI or something is the question, but he's definitely not a human

@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger

25 күн бұрын

@@charfu He’s outside time and space so no

@charfu

24 күн бұрын

@@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger How is a creature that exists outside of time and space not an alien? Also, don't you think an advanced alien civlization could easily pose as 'God' to us; extra dimensional or not?

@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger

24 күн бұрын

@@charfu No they can’t because Aliens live in our realm which means they can’t create the realm to begin with. Definition is false.

awesome video! side question: can i ask what denomination you are? thanks!

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

Pentecostal

@fundamentality

26 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics Dang I wasn't expecting that answer whatsoever, but I'm a pentecostal too lol

@juansolo3227

21 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologeticslet’s gooooo!!

Which miracles have been confirmed to have happened?

@harrygarris6921

27 күн бұрын

What would serve as confirmation for you?

What do you say of the catholic theology of miracles, one priest on youtube explains that God does not "break" the laws of nature but operates within them, however they are not in the normal course of nature

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

I think that was Aquinas' definition. I would simply say this: A miracle is an event that exceeds the productive power of nature, and a religiously significant miracle is a detectable miracle that has a supernatural cause.

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics that's a good definition. That includes instances where it would be impossible at the current technology level.

literally the furthest you can get using this video is that we should look into the resurrection, and once we do, we can realize that a miracle is the least likely explanation

@darkblade4340

26 күн бұрын

False

@WonderfulDeath

26 күн бұрын

@@darkblade4340 True

@darkblade4340

26 күн бұрын

@@WonderfulDeath False

how could 23-year-old Joseph Smith dictate all 269,510 words of the Book of Mormon without any notes, in 60 working days, with only a 1-in-15 Trillion chance of Nephi and Alma having the same writing style and 1500 shifts in author overall? And All ,apparently, just for p00n and dollarydoos?

@RodMartinJr

27 күн бұрын

A similar feat was accomplished by the author of *_Oaspi,_* about the time the typewriter was first invented. Demons? When we see the behavior of Smith, we do not see a Righteous man. We must remain humble to God's Truth. In other words, we need to remain a perpetual student, for God will *_always_* have more to teach us. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

@GldnClaw

27 күн бұрын

@@RodMartinJr Oahspe: Written in 50 weeks of daily sessions + 3 months of writing. Little-to-no variation in writing style. "a few" revisions Only internally-consistent within it's esoteric structure This is the equivalent of "We have the Book of Mormon at home" meme.

@RodMartinJr

27 күн бұрын

@@GldnClaw And?... 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

@MrDrProfJMF

Күн бұрын

Yeah it gets on my nerves. Like self-serving? Joseph Smith's life was no cakewalk and he sealed his testimony in his blood. Just another lame attempt to paint him as a cult leader when he behaved nothing like any other actual cult leaders we know anything about

It's a good playlist! But are they supposed to be out of order they were released in? It's a tad annoying to hunt for the release order because you constantly refer back to earlier videos

@TestifyApologetics

25 күн бұрын

Yes they're in the correct order

I was hoping you would go on to explain how the resurrection or other Christian miracles fulfill DOUBTS instead of just explaining how other supposed miracles don’t

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

See the pinned comment

I think that miracles can also happen in other religions, only if its confirming the belief at the very least in God, compared to the alternative which is disbelief in God altogether. For example, it would not surprise me if a Hindu or Muslim were healed after praying to God inside their temples. However, I do believe that once their minds were opened to God, God would begin revealing more signs that would point them to the Christian faith and whether they follow his signs is a different matter.

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

the Bible plainly states there can be miracles in other religions because there are demons behind many of the deities in other religions. Demons can do "miracles." Revelation 13 says that the world will be deceived by a false Christ calling fire down from heaven. We should expect miracles in other religions given a biblical worldview.

@joiemoie

27 күн бұрын

@@thadofalltrades I don’t doubt that there can be strange phenomenon in other cultures, but demons can’t do everything. For example, they can deceive, but they can’t bring about healings. The high priest Melchizedek was the King of Salem, not associated with Abram, but was blessed by Abram. Balaam was not an Israelite, but a recognized Prophet. Job was a non-Israelite, living in the land of Uz. Finally, the three Kings were likely Zoroastrians, who probably had a different relationship with God than typical Jews, but followed signs which led to Jesus.

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

@@joiemoie I'm not saying they can do everything, but they can do stuff. Pharoah's magicians could duplicate Aaron's signs to a point. Revelation predicts that the false Christ that comes at the end will do signs and lying wonders. They can sort of heal. They can make someone sick and then release them from the sickness. How do you think witch doctors become so powerful? They "heal", but also do curses and stuff. They can strengthen someone's body against harm. I used to work for a missionary group that had ministries in the Philippines. The leaders of gangs would wear special talismans that would protect them from gunfire.

Can you explain how the Book of Mormon and other revelations Joseph Smith claims to have received are self-serving? From the history, it seemed more like those things hurt him, his family, and his followers more than anything

Couldn't help but screenshot that probability equation 😻

Do you get the emails that people send you through your website?

@TestifyApologetics

25 күн бұрын

If you've sent something I haven't seen it

Some other religions come kind of close, Zoroaster's healing the horse only fails two (Belated Events and Self Serving) but he could easily have been a great veterinarian.

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

Belated is def. important.

@Makaneek5060

27 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics I agree, King Vishtaspa's horse most likely did not have 4 broken legs, but that's what the story turned into after centuries.

John 3:16-21; John 14:6-7; Ephesians 2:8-9

Two quick things. (1) How many of the miracles in the Jewish Scriptures (Genesis through Chronicles) would pass through your filter? For example, the Creation-by far the most important of all biblical miracles-is incalculably distant in time from its recording. And for academic non-believers (which I am not) there is no hard proof that the primary biblical miracles of the Exodus or Mount Sinai were written less than 700 years after the supposed events. (2) The criterion of "self-serving" would tend to disqualify all reported miracles occurring in documents of faith, such as the JS and NT. From an outside perspective, they all serve to bolster or validate the religious claims and authority of the texts themselves. There is no neutral testimony concerning things like God speaking to Israel at Sinai or Jesus' empty tomb. "Self-serving" accounts do not have to be for very crude or materialistic reasons.

Anyone who doubts miracles can visit a weeping icon at any time.

I don't think there's a double standard. If you were to walk up to a medieval scholar and tell him that you believe that the other time-traveler from your era could potentially have a working "magic light" (especially if he brought LEDs and batteries with him), but that you don't believe he could have a "flying horse," then he might think you're being arbitrarily skeptical. After all, why is a magic light so much less likely than a "magic flying horse?" You're not being arbitrarily skeptical, though, and you don't have a double standard. You believe it is possible that he has the tools to do the one thing, but not the other. Christians believe that God can cause miracles; we do not believe that animistic spirits dwelling in trees can. That said, I think a lot of modern Christians are _still_ likely to be skeptical of even claims of miracles allegedly performed by God if they're not in the scriptures. Modern miracles are more likely to be fakes, delusions, or whatnot than they are to be real, because there is incentive and motivated reasoning that can lead to frauds or mistakes. So skepticism even about "Christian miracles" is as wise as skepticism about new scientific theories and alleged discoveries: do the research and try to find out what actually happened.

OR, you could just believe all miracles that happen in other religions etc. are from demons trying to lie...

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

that would be kinda convenient and ad hoc. not saying there aren't false signs and wonders, but even claims for weird stuff that I'd say sounds demonic often don't even pass this filter

@Dr_suter

27 күн бұрын

@TestifyApologetics I agree, atheist definitely wouldn’t sit there and have that, in fact a good comeback would just be “how do you know miracles that happen within your religion aren’t demons?

@ravissary79

24 күн бұрын

That isn't denying a miracle though, it's just a spiritually tribalistic interpretation of its meaning. That's still taking it seriously, indeed its taking them at their word.

@mattgray7803

23 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics I'm just saying that as Christians we don't need to deny "miracles" of other religions in order to defend our own because it has long been held that signs pointing away from God are just demonic influences... We don't need to abide by the atheistic default of "miracles likely fake" for good apologetics, that's all.

Btw doesn't the 'U' stand for Uncertain events rather than Undetailed events? Meaning events that can plausibly be explained naturally. McGrew gives the examples of the Hindu 'milk miracle' and the healings at the tomb of Abbe Paris where thousands of people would go there and some would report feeling better afterwards

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

I changed it, I thought about using both.

I think Hume's argument regarding miracles is mostly semantics. For example, if one defines a miracle as something impossible, then any claim that a miracle occurring must be false by definition. The same argument can occur for improbable events. If a miracle is defined as an unlikely event, then again a miracle cannot occur by definition.* *Suppose miracle is an event where P(event)

@mesplin3

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border I use the dictionary definition. As for your example, I don't think it works. If you knew that an event happened, then this event would no longer be classified as a miracle assuming that miracles are defined by one's low degree of belief.

@mesplin3

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border miracle: a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency. If you are using a Bayesian interpretation of probability, then probability means a degree of belief (how a gambler might wager on outcomes). If you aren't, then probability might refer to a ratio of favorable cases to cases overall. This interpretation is problematic because one cannot sample their own ignorance.

@mesplin3

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border I believe that divinity is fictional, so many of these questions don't make much sense to me. As I see it, we observe reality and create models that, when assumed, can be useful.

@mesplin3

27 күн бұрын

@@Boundless_Border Yeah, that sounds about right. If I saw someone get sawed in half and then emerge unharmed, I would assume this was a magic trick and not a miracle.

The Resurrection is an obvious example of meeting this DOUBTS framework, but I recommend anyone interested in well-documented miracles to check out the miracle of Calanda. "A sign for Non-Believers" by Vittorio Messori is a great book on it, but if you can't grab hold of it even Wikipedia does a fair job of summarizing it (and even as an "objective" source it can't help but conclude that key objections raised by skeptics fall flat).

First Corinthians - Inspired Version 13:2 "And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." This is the difference between miracles.

Joseph Smith was not self-serving. He had to endure a lot of persecution for sticking by his claims. Also, he ran for president in an attempt to preserve religious freedom, because the Latter-day Saints kept getting attacked by mobs.

@tlovi7342

5 күн бұрын

@BenjaminYWarner I don't know if those other guys whose wives he married felt that way...but that seems self-serving on its face. Additionally, he claimed to be greater than Peter, Paul, and Jesus. That's not really related to his self-service. I just thought I'd throw that in there (video by Mike Winger recently on that tidbit had me reeling, frankly). May God bless you and keep you.

@BenjaminYWarner

5 күн бұрын

@@tlovi7342 The quote about Joseph Smith saying he was greater than Jesus is often taken out of context. He was riffing on Paul's "I speak as a fool" verses in 2 Corinthians 11. Try looking up the short video Did Joseph Smith Think He Was Better Than Jesus by Saints Unscripted. As for Joseph's motives for practicing polygamy, the motivation was not to have a lot of sex. It is too complicated to elaborate here, but try looking up Don Bradley's talk at the 2023 FAIR Conference. It is called Knowing Brother Joseph: How the Historical Record Demonstrates the Prophet's Religious Sincerity.

Why is it an assumption that the miracles don't follow the laws of nature? Why can't an event happen exactly as it was recorded and also be within the laws of nature?

Prophecy from a man of Christ is a miracle. Fortune telling from a pagan is a spiritual communion with demons. People often seem to forget that Satan is the prince of lies and confusion, he is indeed powerful enough to provide illusions and counterfeit miracles in which there is always a caveat. Satan doesn’t care if you are spiritual or not he just doesn’t want you worshiping the one true God. Satan has atheist right where he wants them… worshiping their own intellect. As for spiritual people he will try and have them follow down a path of idol worship.

"According To Quantum Physics. It's a commonplace notion to think that the universe exists 'out there' without us there to live in it and observe it. However, in the realm of quantum physics, an observer independent universe is simply impossible" so meterialism which states universe can exist without you(a atheist worldview) is not scientific, so metarialism is foolishness.

@krishnasaikia6132

26 күн бұрын

and reality of the world is my alt. acct so dont say i copied it. i just posted it here coz its my christian acct.

@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440

26 күн бұрын

You do know that the universe existed billions of years before life emerged on Earth, right? Are you saying that aliens existed at the beginning of the Big Bang?

@realityoftheworld3062

25 күн бұрын

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 what are you saying. ni said metarialism is false

As C.S. Lewis put it, we only have to believe the miracles in scripture and the ones that occur to us.

3:52 if i told someome this, they would ask from which bar i came from

@Onzo22

27 күн бұрын

Dude, I just flew around the world, died, rose from the dead, and turned your couch into a donkey

I thought for a filter you might have used J Warner Wallace's bomb theory, that the bigger impact, and they left the more worth, they are to investigate it, and might be true. This is actually the first time I've seen a use for it. Tim McGrew's version seems, circular, like you have to investigate it by going thru these 5 steps, to know if it is worth investigating, but it is good for the investigation.

A lot of these are just ordinary historical method. Distance and time are ordinary criteria used by historians. Same with how much the writer stands to benefit. The one I'd mostly disagree with is detail. Today's flim flam artists add lots of detail, because it distracts people from noticing that it's all garbage. Similarly, older but essentially true stories might lose detail over time as minor parts of the story are forgotten.

Christian miracle - 😄😍 Non-Christian miracle - 👹👹

@DANtheMANofSIPA

27 күн бұрын

God can still work miracles outside of the True Faith, or it can be demons, or they could be made up, or hallucinations. We should be EXTREMELY careful when saying which bin supposed miracles, as to not attribute a miracle from The True God to a demon as the evil Pharisees did, or to man as the atheists do. Both are an abomination to The Lord.

They talk about miracles being impossible, but you're going to look me in the eyes and say the solar system came by luck? I don't think so.

@DexterHeart

22 күн бұрын

My brother in Christ, wtf do you mean with that?????

I have an issue with T for trivial. How do you determine what is trivial? Your friend could claim that his acts are meant to shown his dominion over nature, and are therefore not trivial. You also said that miracles are supposed to make a difference. How did Jesus walking on water made a difference as opossed to him not having walked on water? Lack of detail. Not so sure about this one. So we dont know exactly how the phoenix looked like. Do we know in detail how the angels at jesus tomb looked like? Maybe you are demanding too much here. Also, I specifically remember you previously discussing some contradictions and then saying "oh those contradictions are just on details". Details were unimportant then but now they are apparently quite important ;-)

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

There's no religious context. It's just a goofy trick and then an ad hoc claim. If Mohammad worked a miracle, and he claimed to be Allah's final prophet, that would not count as trivial. You should like the lack of detail criteria. I'm not asking you, the skeptic, to begin your investigation into miracles regarding angelic appearances. The contradictions you are discussing are on matters of minor importance to the overall narrative of the story, once again you're missing the point.

@fluffysheap

26 күн бұрын

I agree that the definition of triviality doesn't work well. Before modern times, recording anything was difficult, time consuming and expensive. If something was considered trivial, it would not have been preserved. Jesus walking on water is a good example. Jesus didn't walk out onto the water to save a drowning person. It isn't like his healings, that made a difference in people's lives. It has a theological meaning only. But the theological meaning is important. Trivial is in the eye of the beholder.

I guess I treat miracles from other religions with more insinctual hesitation than I do with my own religion, but I feel like that's something I need to overcome. If we're being perfectly rational, skepticism towards miracles only makes sense to a certain degree. Like, I get it if you don't believe in Islam but you'd have to be at least somewhat disingenuous to say there is absolutely nothing a little bit weird about how quickly it expanded and how lasting its religious traditions have been. Sure, maybe it can all be explained through nature and chance but it doesn't make any sense to say there's no point in investigating and being serious about the claims being made.

@fluffysheap

26 күн бұрын

It's not weird at all. For all of today's Muslims talking about how pure and monotheistic it is, it actually barely changed pre-existing Arabian pagan traditions at all. It functioned as a unifying force for the previously splintered Arabian tribes - don't change anything about your life, but now you are all part of the same religion. Once that happened, and Muslims got more unified and started conquering everyone, that's a pretty obvious way to spread. Even so, the medieval caliphate was pretty tolerant of other religions.

@Carlos-ln8fd

26 күн бұрын

@@fluffysheap Going from pagan to monotheistic does sound like a big leap to me. This is like saying we can easily transform islam today back to paganism without much effort. I don't see how that would be possible without, at the very least, incredible luck.

4:26 wait i heard this same story from another religion , guess which religion it is

the B in doubt is why we can reject most of Hinduism's stuff. Though there is demonic activity that performs miracles.

I like your videos a lot. I think you shouldn't filter out Joseph Smith. You really misrepresented him and his motives. Go learn more about him, what people who knew him said about him, his family including his brother and how they believed him and stuck by him no matter what, and how he died for what he believed, even going back to what he knew was certain death because his friends felt like he was abandoning them. He had such a hard life that someone who was in it for himself would have just given up and said, this lie is not worth my children dying, tarring and feathering, sitting in a dungeon for months in the winter etc.

Ave, Cristus Rex!

The most interesting thing about miracles is how they suddenly stopped happening when cameras were invented

@GutsOnYT

22 күн бұрын

Illogical. My family has caught miracles on camera. There has been plenty of miracles caught on camera, too.

@juansolo3227

22 күн бұрын

We often are quick to categorize things as either natural things we have yet to figure out or coincidences. Miracles happen all the time.

@nickNcar

21 күн бұрын

Any "miracle" is just shoved off as fake whether on camera or not is the thing. A friend of ours' wife was dying their body damaged in a way that couldn't be fixed, and they were on life support. The doctors were not trying to fix anything because they couldn't, and they were convincing our friend to pull the plug. He was going to because everyone said she was already dead. Well, the next morning, they went to take her off life support, and she was perfectly OK out of nowhere as if she had never been sick. The doctors have no idea how or why she just miraculously healed from near death to perfectly healthy in just a couple of hours. That's a miracle, but everyone says that it wasn't and something else happened. Miracles don't happen anymore because people's bass world view is "it can't be a miracle because miracles aren't real. therefore, they don't happen"

@thatonedude932

21 күн бұрын

@@juansolo3227 probably because it’s reasonable to say something has a natural explanation than to assume that it has supernatural causes that we can’t test or see or interact with. And also not a single person within the Christian religion can even agree on weather or not miracles still happen

@thatonedude932

21 күн бұрын

@@nickNcar modern medicine: manages to save someone on the brink of death Theists: must be god because clearly once a doctor says the person is going to die it’s definitely going to happen unless god intervenes because doctors never make incorrect statements ever

I disagree with the T in DOUBTS. While I can see why you would not want to look into a trivial miracle, I find it unreasonable to use this as a metric to discredit one.

As a fact. The Church dose not deny the reality of other paranormal activities at all. It just states that all are in work with devils.

On the whole sign value thing, I don't think that's necessary. If a God exists who loves us, we would expect him to perform miracles for people (particularly healing miracles) for people in any religion, and that they don't have to be construed as supporting the beliefs of the people who received the miracles.

@RodMartinJr

27 күн бұрын

That sounds logical. Having studied numerous religions, in-depth, over the last 74 years, each one seems to contain elements of truth. For men have long had a hunger for the Spirit and would inevitably discover elements of Truth. And just as every religion has become corrupted because of the ever present *_Ego,_* even Christianity has been profaned by politics and selfishness. But there is only one *_TRUTH._* And all religions of any value point in that general direction. What sets Christianity apart is that God chose one people -- the Jews -- to work toward TRUTH, and the *_First_* individual Jew to Reach TRUTH was rewarded with the Honors, Responsibilities and Title of Messiah or Christ, with the mission to return to Earth as Yeshua of Nazareth in the first major step in the harvest to come. Gautama Siddhartha Buddha knew that there was someone greater than he would would "soon" arrive on Earth to help us toward TRUTH. I suspect he was sensing the arrival of that "First" in another five, short centuries. Miracles are effortless when you have a pure heart, and having stumbled onto such purity only a few dozen brief moments, I recognize in Christ's teachings all that I saw and learned from those experiences. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

If it happened in a cave after questionable herb use I'd call it questionable.

One of my favorite cases to triage the claims of Christianity above other religions has to do with the nature of Truth. If a religion is true, then you would think that it would have some widespread purchase outside of its place or people of origin. But if you do limit your look at religions to simply religions which fit this criterion, you're down to basically Islam, Buddhism, and Christianity. This narrows the conversation enough to make it manageable. It doesn't lead directly to Christianity, but it does give it a special place without special pleading.

@thadofalltrades

27 күн бұрын

why wouldn't Judaism also fit into that?

@GldnClaw

27 күн бұрын

The Ojibwe indians have writings that affirm aspects of the Book of Mormon.

@GldnClaw

27 күн бұрын

The ojibwe indians affirm the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

@logicianbones

26 күн бұрын

​@@thadofalltrades Ben has a good point. I agree Judaism should be included but that's still only four. He might have overlooked it since investigation into Christianity necessitates it anyways.

@thadofalltrades

26 күн бұрын

@@logicianbones yes, I was just curious if he had a good reason not to include Judaism. I use a similar path of logic to reason to Christianity. Once someone accepts that a timeless, relational, powerful entity might be possible, it's pretty easy to eliminate nearly all religions because most deities have an origin story. They are often the children of other entities.

Search for the Eucaristic Miracles, and other Catholic Miracles.

"Laws of nature" - A guy that don't knew the laws of nature, since the quantum physics works differently than classical mechanics.

You start off with my favorite point 😂 Jesus raised himself from the dead "just because so many people said it happened just shows that people can be wrong" sure, but the, in my opinion, good man who killed my lord wrote to his boss saying "I think we made a mistake and I don't know how to rectify it" Edit: Pilot is not a bad guy. I don't blame him. I actually feel really bad for him. He carried his duty and was who he needed to be. He's more blessed than me, that's for sure. He's biblical lol but he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't want to murder Jesus, I understand, he gave the sentence that's pulling the trigger. But who else should have been put in that place than a good man?

Exactly. The One True Church has defined miracles with contemporary witnesses, that are confirmed by science. While the false churches usually have miracles that occur with unnamed people at an unnamed place resulting in minor physical ailment releif (backpain etc).

@juansolo3227

21 күн бұрын

I love that one Catholic story about how angels gave Saint Aquinas a belt for keeping it in his pants. Truly a miracle that no man could replicate.

@thehitomiboy7379

21 күн бұрын

@juansolo3227 Not sure youre intention of that comment but that wouldnt be a miracle, strictly speaking. Since its not verifiable by inquiry. But it could be a pius beleif. I myself have somesuch miracles applied to me too. Just not verifiable as actual miracles.

@juansolo3227

21 күн бұрын

@@thehitomiboy7379 ah well that’s actually nice to hear then, I must be misinformed. I would believe all good is the work of God so one could argue it is but yeah verifiability was what I was attacking. I thought y’all used it as his Saint miracle cause don’t saints need a miracle associated with them?

@thehitomiboy7379

21 күн бұрын

@juansolo3227 saints at that time needed 4 posthumous miracles to be sainted. So it wasnt used. Allegedly there were 100 or more presented tho whoch 4 were considered conclusive i do not know.

Now I'm curious where/who fabricated other religions. Ex: greek gods, Indian gods, etc

Balaams talking donkey is possible though because donkeys have vocal cords and can make noises with their mouth so God can just alter the brain of the Donkey so it can speak.

@TestifyApologetics

27 күн бұрын

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it's not where I'd ask the skeptic to begin their investigation.

I don’t think the Donkey thing was a Miracle, It was just a Thing that happened

quantum mechanics destroys this athiests

yes of course nearly everything is biased towards Christianity in the west, especially in America. You'd be hard pressed to divorce yourself from it entirely, it's very anger inducing but they're starting to fall out of fashion.

Jesus warns of signs and wonders. “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Love how you bunched Catholics, with their own Mary symbol, with the other religions.

@TestifyApologetics

15 күн бұрын

Catholics are Christians. It wasn't an insult. The cross is there too.

@SampleText-sb4kh

15 күн бұрын

@@TestifyApologetics Sorry I missinterpreted. I have very sectarian views, which make me curse other Christians. Every sincere Christian is saved.

Testify, I understand your good intentions with this channel, but have you ever heard the quote, "I can have 1000 experiments which prove me right, but 1 experiment can prove me wrong."? No matter how many miracles and "contradictions" you prove and explain, the atheist will just go to another miracle or supposed contradiction. This is why we have faith as one of the predominant virtues. You can't really convert anyone in this fashion; true faith in God can't really be taught to someone. Otherwise, I like your videos. Take care and God bless you! ☦️☦️☦️

@TestifyApologetics

26 күн бұрын

Jesus said if you don't believe me, believe the signs. He didn't discourage examination he said believe on the basis of testimony. I don't think this is theologically sound.

@logicianbones

26 күн бұрын

Problem is none of them have ever been able to give any such criticism of the Bible that passes a logic test and they've had twice 1000 years to do so...

@CzarLazar1389

26 күн бұрын

@@logicianbonesUniverse is created --> Something/Someone must have created it --> That Something/Someone must be uncreated and all-powerful --> the all-powerful being can do anything

@Gato-m1m

15 күн бұрын

@@CzarLazar1389 you assume that something must have created the universe but that doesn't have to be true the universe could just be "eldritch" in nature in-comprehensible by the human mind and not ever created just existing. also why is god allowed to be uncreated but the universe is not? and even if something is uncreated that does not make it all powerful it just means nothing made that thing.

Since the Jesus resurrection story is based on the Romulus one. If Jesus really rose from the dead, then so did Romulus. lol

The only 2 examples of talking animals in the bible.. Both examples involve angels. I just thought that was interesting.

The Book of Mormon is a Miracle. Showyourshelf has 500 questions to ask about it.