1.24.2019 3:02pm Update: From the CEO of Recon Campers regarding servicing: "Currently all small warranty items are handled at an RV dealer/ repair center near the client's home. We spent a lot of time designing our systems to they are very simple to repair, many like the control system, are plug and play so any RV center can fix things in a very short period of time. Anything major (like when a client forgot to close his pop top and drove into his garage) we might need to ship the van back to our facility (and driving your pop top into a garage open is not under warranty)." 1.24.2019 2:59pm Update: Stephen the CEO got back to me. The coach warranty is 2 years and covers any thing that Recon Campers built like the cabinets, etc. All other components carry their own warranties. *A 1-time donation via PayPal is always appreciated!* www.paypal.me/ultramobility Or a small monthly subscription goes a long way! www.patreon.com/ultramobility Here's reviews of other pop-tops! Axion Studio: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nn2Zk9ZtiMvMgpc.html Tofino: kzread.info/dash/bejne/apmG0bmwg7KZg6g.html Aktiv Loft: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqGpm7Wmpr28m7w.html

Thanks for doing this mini-review. I THINK MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE REALIZING THAT THE BIG VANS ARE NOT WORTH THE MONEY. The little Dodge Caravans , Nissans, etc are going to win this race because they are so much cheaper and can double as daily drivers.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

I think you're right and I think that's why we've seen 4 new pop-top camper vans show up on the market in the last year!

@stanw909

5 жыл бұрын

The smallest/lowest Promaster is a great in between option and Sportsmobile and Colorado Camper Vans will install tops and build interiors .

@shadowgunner69

5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see something like the Recon mod for a current generation Transit Connect.

I have traveled 40,000 miles in a year and a half in my nobuild Nissan NV (Baja, across Mexico, rhrough the southwest, to Alaska, across Canada, and back to California through the northern US.) It is a dream vehicle that can be serviced almost anywhere. Cost me 300 to outfit it. 28 miles a gallon.

Thanks for reviewing this fabulous minivan / mini cargo van conversion. The amount of detail in a five minute video is excellent!

@Ultramobility

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you for finally reviewing "a campervan for the rest of us", i.e., those of us with limited budgets who would love to explore the Great Outdoors as a single person or small family. I found the RECON site some time ago, and like you said, they convert your vehicle, are closed presently for orders, and they do not have any converted vans in stock for sale. This van is closer to the European Vans, like the VW CALIFRONIA VAN, that many wish was available in the U.S. In my quest for what I call a basic" motorized metal tent," I just recently discovered this Nissan dealer in the state of Washington that not only converts the vans but has a few in stock and ready for immediate sale! They are not as fancy as the RECONS (only two people, no rooftop tent, no fridge), but are very versatile with an easy to setup and take down modular configuration. Perfect for starting out and then modifying as you wish. Price is a big plus at $38,000. There are a few mods available for extra storage. I really like their product and am seriously looking at it. I do not want the six month wait of the RECON van that won't even be taking orders until ???? Check them out for comparison: www.caravanoutfitter.com/ So folks, Neil is providing a great service, so support his endeavor via patreon if you can.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

wow very nice of you to share all that information r g and thank you so much for the shout out about Patreon!

@tonynes3577

5 жыл бұрын

I saw pictures online of the 'Ford Transit Custom Nugget Camper,' which the interior is designed by VW Westfalia. Better than the VW California I think (since it has a built in toilet) but, also NOT available in the US, and bit expensive (>$80K US).

@ukedaman

5 жыл бұрын

We purchased our Freebird Nisssan NV200 camper from Caravan Outfitters about a year ago. We had made a deposit on a Recon, but the company kept delaying the production. We received a refund from recon, and flew out to Washington to purchase the Freebird. The Recon has more bells and whistles, but for about $20,000 less the Freebird suits us just fine.

When I win the LOTTO, I want this. Just the right size and amenities for me. Thanks for sharing.

As a mom I love that you point out the 3 point seatbelts. This is why I’m leaning towards getting a class b instead of another class c. Thanks for what you do!

Great review, Neil! I would LOVE to see a full review of this camper. THANKS!

I love it! Thank you! I read that they were working on a deal with Nissan to offer these right at the dealer in the spring, we'll have to wait and see. The gas mileage is also near 25 mph. I'd like to see Nissan offer AWD or 4x4 for off road boon docking. I would set up an outdoor shower tent with on demand hot water and make it a doubleheader with a Thor canister toilet on one side, shower on the other. I'm looking forward to the full review!

Great mini review Neil! What a cool little van with some great options for the money. I am definitely looking at Class B's as my entry level but this camper is impressive because if it's size, available options and price point. What a great find and I definitely want to see a full review, going to vote now.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

I thought so too. major question about warranty and servicing but hopefully they'll provide that to me shortly!

Thanks for the mini-review Neil! The 5 year/100K warranty on the Nissan, along with ~26 mpg hwy is very appealing. Great for those who need an everyday driver that they can camp with.

@lesliegranowski2683

4 жыл бұрын

Finally

Love your reviews. Please do a full review. I like the fact that this vehicle can fit in my garage and can use it as a 2nd car until I retire and can make use of a larger RV and spend weeks on the road.

I love this channel. You are doing the work my brain refuses to do. Thank you.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

you're more than welcome. thank you for saying that!

Neil, Thank you again for a great review!!!

very thorough review- thanks

Wow, this is amazing! A few things: First of all I want to say thank you for including information in the description box which is often lacking on KZread channels! Well done! I can't believe I've been binging for about two months now on KZread videos about vehicles for camping and long-term camping and never came across these vehicles. I had been considering the standard Nissan NV. I was curious what the headspace is when the pop top is down? Thanks in advance, and thanks for this video!

Looking fwd to your full review of Recon camper van

Thanks for the video and great information, just subscribed.

They've absolutely got the right idea. As a Canadian, I'm keeping a close eye as their website promises to have a Canadian-ready version available in "late 2019".

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

it would be nice to see them eventually become a true coach manufacturer with showrooms and dealers but maybe the tesla route is the way to go as long as they can get servicing worked out.

Thank you for another review.

This is a great idea. I am looking at the possibility of retiring to a condo and a camper van that fits into the garage is a must for that lifestyle. This van has all the features I use now in my Roadtrek (except the toilet) but that is an easy adjustment as I can always opt to add a small moveable toilet as you suggest. I just want to be able to camp when I want and be comfortable. Extra sleeping loft is great for the grandkids!

For me this would be the perfect weekend getaway vehicle. Great gas’s mileage and size for a daily with the added benefits of cargo capacity and stand up roominess. Agree with Pepe that this would be a great addition to the Tofino if they could figure out the rigidity issues with extending the gap for the pop top. Thank you Neil.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

yeah I want to talk to the CEO about overall crash testing and meeting DOT safety standards. it's a great point about the big hole in the roof and rigidity and safety! I've invited the CEO to come online and answer viewer questions here in the comments!

Love it! Just wish they had heating system and a small bathroom like the kelper one! Other than that love it. Maybe in the future they can have something like that on a different model. As always good job on the review!

Hi Neil, I am stumble to your channel while doing research to the Envy Recon camper.. great review. However, I didn’t see you mention about AC/heating system.

I’d love to see a full review and a head-to-head with the Tofino. Alas, I can’t seem to vote on your community page with my iPad. I really like the idea of these small, low-profile pop-top camper vans. I’ve tent camped and had a teardrop camper in the past, so the lack of a toilet is a non-issue. But I’m pretty much had it with towing and fussing with a trailer. I want a stealthy van I can occasionally drive to work AND park by my condo without the condo association having a fit 🤣

Hi Neil, I’m looking forward to your full review. 😄

@Ultramobility

Жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Great review

INTERESTING! I will put this on my favorite camper vans list. I am waiting to see within this year or next if there will be other short length camper vans coming out. I saw pictures online of the 'Ford Transit Custom Nugget Camper' and I like that too, (designed by VW Westfalia) but that is not avail in the US, only in Europe.

So cool. I was seriously looking at this van as a choice for me and my teenage son, but opted for the Roadtrek Simplicity SRT instead. Thanks for your helpful reviews. (Love seeing you film around the Bay, btw!)

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Ultramobile Lifestyle Camille!

@Desperado3248

5 жыл бұрын

A good move, but now Road trek is out of business. Still I see this as a primitive comfort void mini van . Sorry that is my opinion, a class b is a superior vehicle.

Nice review. Recognized the parking location at The Circle in Berkeley. :) Great location as is Indian Rock.

Im lucky to own a Recon camper built. The quality is superb. They use quality material. I think you mentioned that it doesnt come with a stove. My built came with a butane stove. As per the toilet, I went to walmart and bought a folding toilet. it fits behind the drivers seat. Solid built nothing rattles or cabinets do not open by accident. They use stainless steel push button locks. I was undecided between the axion and recon was leaning towards the carado axion more because of more space but the deal breaker was quality of material and lack of insulation on the axion. To me insulation is the first priority. Then the rest of the stuff.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

alex - thanks so much for sharing your ownership experience! very helpful. do you know what the warranty is and did Recon Campers give you advice on where you take you rig in to for servicing?

@alexperez-xx8tw

5 жыл бұрын

Ultramobility the warranty is for 2 years. Regarding if needing service Im close to Recon’s shop in Southern California. So I cannot answer if somebody needing service that is further away. Im sure the owner Stephen will take care of any issues that might come up.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

yep he just wrote a detailed email to me answer this and other questions! thank you for helping out Alex.

@DonQ

5 жыл бұрын

I like this one a lot but plan on using it in Colorado. I'm a bit hesitant about taking it over those mountains. Thoughts?

@alexperez-xx8tw

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Lloyd the only time you would have a problem is if you have to accelerate quickly to get out of a situation the CVT doesnt respond. Its worry some. But I have being thru some mountains passes ( not in Colorado) without any issues im able to keep up with the speed limit or faster.

Hey Neil - love the channel. I'd be interested in a more in depth review and/or a comparison between the RECON and the GTRV Westy

Great idea...especially since (as we know) VW isn't bringing their "California" camper van to America. Now...if Honda would make a "Pilot Camper Van" model: Not only would being set up like a camper (from the factory, like aforementioned VW is doing) give the Pilot more capability -- meaning more than just a people/cargo carrier -- but with the Pilot's excellent AWD system, you could go places/deal with inclement weather that might be difficult for a 2WD van (like this Nissan). I also like that it will fit into a garage or under most carports due to its more "normal" height. Yes, you can get a tent specifically designed to attach to the pilot -- and even get an "Overlanding" type roof-rack/rooftop tent for it -- but tents are another topic. Would be nice if Honda would produce a opp-up camper...but as seen here, making camper vans out of SUVs/service vans may continue to be only soemthign an owner or aftermarket company (like Recon Campers) will be doing. -- BR

Hey Ultramobility! Great video. I'm curious - did you actually get to test the comfort of the top vs. the bottom bed options? Is either one comparable to a real mattress for longer-term road tripping? Thanks!

Can you do review on 2018 Roadtrek CS XL with full E-trek options and undermount AC ?

Another cool mention about this van is the upholstered seats in a waterproof material similar to what scuba gear is made from. I believe the supplier is in Hawaii.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO REVIEW THIS VAN. It is my favorite of the pop tops. Perfect for my needs as a business traveler. Please do a full review. I saw a video done by the owners where they stated that these vans would be available in 2019 from Nissan dealerships. Do you know if that is still in the plans?

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

there may be some announcement forthcoming out of the Chicago Auto Show coming up! Stay tuned!

Hi Neil, I just saw the prototype at the Tampa RV show if the Roadtrek Haven...VERY nice rig for sure. Can't wait for your review. It is very high end looking with great amenities.

@taradead

5 жыл бұрын

The build is very high-end...the car, itself, is very low-end.

@Primogen1

5 жыл бұрын

@@taradead the Ford Transit is not low end. You do realize I am not talking about the vehicle in this review right?

@taradead

5 жыл бұрын

oops, my bad. The transit connect is a nice car...the nv200 is not.

Thank you I appreciate your program . No toilet does hold me back. The reason for a camper for me is the toilet but the price is a positive.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

100% with you on the toilet! one of the only reasons why I have my coach is for its bathroom. can't tell you have wonderful it is to always have my own toilet wherever I travel even if it's just to the store. I like using my own bathroom. however, I have been researching portable toilets and you know what? there are some really nice ones that stow away nicely and give you the convenience of having a cassette which you can empty anywhere and not just as a dump station. but, you still would have to sit out in the open inside the van and that's a bummer (pun intended!)

@alabi2k542

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. A toilet and shower of some sort are worth far more to me than a fancy electric sofa or designer countertops. Keep it simple, and make it functional for those of us who do not always have a decent rwtroom or shower nearby to use, especially in the late evening/ early am.

@Desperado3248

3 жыл бұрын

Something really innovative would be a slide out that would open to a bathroom when parked.

Love to know what production time is like now and if available through Nissan dealerships. Thank you for a great review!

Really interesting. Perfect for city stealth camping--no one would even think it was a camper. I'd have to see the specs, fresh water tank, grey tank, etc. Being able to park it inside my garage would be great.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

10g fresh water and 5 gallon grey capacities.

@taradead

5 жыл бұрын

If i saw an Envy parked outside my house, I'd know someone was camping in it. The pop-top, shore power hook-ups, etc on a van even as small as the nv200 are givaways. Only the standard version (no windows) is truly stealth because it looks like a work van.

I may have changed my mind on this . With some custom options it could challenge a much more expensive class b. First a module that slides out and when parked could be an enclosed bathroom. Solar panels and a small generator to power a small microwave , coffee maker and tv . WiFi booster. Question can you run the motor overnight if you need heat or a/c. If not you could use an ac access to campground 110 to power heat or ac like what is done in small trailers

Thanks for the video. Intrigued by these camper vans. Wish we has the Ford Transit "Nugget" here in the US.

@Ultramobility

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

That is a sharp van, I like all the options they offer. Too bad the front seats don’t swivel, and a spot for a cassette toilet would be nice.

@Desperado3248

4 жыл бұрын

There is a version inEurope with a cassette toilet , it can be done. Would add 12 v a/ c unit, under hood generator and it would do

@Desperado3248

4 жыл бұрын

A smart move would be a rear slide out that would become a bathroom and shower

Any new updates on available recon campers?

The classic VW campervan layout is great...I only wish they could do the conversion on a different chassis.

Hi, what is the make and model of the bike rack that would fit a Nissan NV200 with a tailgate? Thanks

This is an interesting alternative to a more expensive van, and it can haul and sleep four . Probably my favorite feature is the ability to park it in a regular garage . Coachman is doing some interesting things with their Galleria , even introducing a 12v air conditioner this year .

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

I love the size. like what appears to be a good fit and finish and like that it addresses some challenges that I see on models like the Tofino.

Wayfarer Vans is another to review!

Why oh why won’t VW give us the California Ocean? It’s infuriating, there are dozens of companies trying to emulate that design, some people paying as much as 80K for a 30 year old refurbished VW Camper. But yet VW says it would never sell? The success of Recon is just more proof that people want a camper that can also be a daily driver that fits in your garage. I’d look into importing one but they are Diesel....not gonna happen. Just gonna have to wait for the ID Buzz!

@ciello___8307

5 жыл бұрын

Aren't the Ocean's like $50k+?

@benvernick

5 жыл бұрын

Skye Higa brand new? It’s impossible to know for sure since you can’t get one in North America , but if you did the euro conversion it would be in the 70K range. Seems like a lot I know, but consider the size, it could easily be your only vehicle and would fit in any parking space or garage. It’s shorter than most mini vans. It’s also AWD so can go pretty much anywhere in one. And VW now offers a six year bumper to bumper warranty. Of course none of this matters since we can’t get them ☹️

@ciello___8307

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Vernick yeah thats why they wont sell them here. The people who actually want the live in van lifestyle cant drop 70k for this lol. There wont be enough sales to justify sending it here

@benvernick

5 жыл бұрын

Skye Higa Who said anything about living in one? It’s too small for full timing. 70K is chump change for some people. It’s a mute point since we have to wait for the ID Buzz which we will hopefully get next year.

@harrisfreedman181

5 жыл бұрын

if we get them here in North America then who is going to buy these big junk RVs and Trailers which are expensive and only limited use for them.

Are these still for sale in the US? Seems to make up for a some of the shortcomings of the PW Tofino. Great mini review - thank you!

FULL REVIEW FULL REVIEW FULL REVIEW!!!

I already have a class B, this is my "weekender" camper for short trips. My Class B is for extended stays :p

Great Mini Review! I like the size. To bad the front seats don't swivel. Using a laptop for movies, no problem. No potty, problem. How and where do you use it and store it? Maybe a mini review on potta potty options? Do I see an additional sun screen in your rv? Keep up the good work!

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

funny enough I have been researching port-potties. lots of em! maybe a mini-review of porta potties is in order!

@garyvallone5393

5 жыл бұрын

Dude for 50 grand go buy a class C

@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl

5 жыл бұрын

@@garyvallone5393I don't know of a 50k C class. C class can be quite comfy but... A C class will not fit in a garage, a normal parking space, or allow you to steath camp. But thanks for the input!

@garyvallone5393

5 жыл бұрын

@@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl this is true but it just seems like a pretty low value buy. It's a cool rig which is why I watched the video but 50 thousand dollars for a vehicle with a junk cvt transmission is way too much. I guess this is a good vehicle for a rich millennial that dosent know any better is why they are selling

@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl

5 жыл бұрын

@@garyvallone5393 Is there any comfort in knowing I'm not gonna buy one? It's good to know what's out there. I bought an RV from Midwest Automotive Designs on a sprinter chassis. Much bigger and it has a bathroom. Keep watching these videos from Neil from Ultramobility and I'm sure you'll find something that fits your criteria.

A smart move would be a fiberglass slide out off the back with a flip down floor , working with the doors to make an enclosed shower and a cassette toilet .This would make the package complete. The other option would be a lightweight towable bathroom shower that be be attached when parked.Should also have an Induction cook top, and small microwave. How about heat and a/c ? How long can dash unit be used, or can batteries power a small electric heater? Could lithium batteries power a 12v ax unit , with reversible heat pump.

Are these available at dealers yet? South Texas here. This is what I want. Not a big ol gas guzzling rv. And I will have two passengers but probably not with me when I travel out of town only on city trips mostly. That backseat is sweet.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

nope not yet. I hope they announce something at the Chicago auto show happening next week.

It would seem more usable to have the front seat with a table back on the driver's side and a swivel seat on the passenger side, if the table seat was mounted on a swivel plate the table could be rotated 90 degrees to sit sideways if it had enough space to do so. I had an ex telecom van with a 1 gallon cylinder in the engine compartment you fill with water, it was wrapped in copper tubing plumbed into the cooling system, so the engine heated the water while you drive along.

Nice review, ReconCampers has not been updating new posts on their Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or even their own website! Makes me wonder if they are still in business. GTRV.com does a similar NV200 conversion if Recon dosent step up their game.

Excellent review. These things are cool.

Wow I like the pop up vans are coming back. Do you see the Ford Transit van will do a pop up?

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

I saw a link to the little transit and I liked what I saw! I think a viewer posted a auto mag article on it in the comments below...

Can u tell me when it's available recon in californis?

Did you do the full review yet? How would I find it?

I want that paint job of the mountains and trees! Where can I find that?

@boskostoybox

3 жыл бұрын

I'd liked to know too. And how many graphics options there are

Great review! thanks-focus on camping features rather than routine driving features would be nice for another video.

@Ultramobility

Жыл бұрын

Noted!

Today models under 17.5 camper van- what would you recommend. Max height 17’1/2 so it can get into my garage

Brand new price point for the USA. Nice.

very cool

Hello Neil- do you have any updated information about about the Hymer/Roadtrek collapse ? I'm presuming it would not be prudent to consider any Hymer product purchase at this time or perhaps ever again. Mal Harling

Can you imagine if they used a Toyota Hiace or proace van? They would sell a lot of them.

I'm not EVER going to spend over $50,000 on a camper van so Recon is the best choice so far. I'm on the east coast so I'll never see one b4 buying, Concerning. I'll watch videos till I'm ready to buy. Good review👍

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing your thoughts @A Person

Can you please review the new Carado Banff if you get the time. It looks like a great value small van with great tech..

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

hiu Patrick - I won't be reviewing any Erwin Hymer of North America products until after May when we have a better understanding of what's going to happen to their brands here in North America.

Is there a really good full video of this Camper anywhere?

@DavidHuffTexas

4 жыл бұрын

This one from Fast Lane Truck is pretty good: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iICKxbypndjgfdY.html

Who made your mountain graphic on the side sir?

Nice car

Sportsmobile will make same floorplan using Transit , Promaster and Sprinter Van's. The Transit will fit in a garage . The Promaster may fit depending on door height . GTRV is now making camper vans based on the Mercedes Metris chassis . Thanks for the video.

@taradead

5 жыл бұрын

Not really comparable considering those vans are twice as big as the nv200.

@stanw909

5 жыл бұрын

@@taradead What you say is correct but , the video states that the Recon is the only company making that floorplan which is simply the old Westphalia floorplan . Sportsmobile and GTRV make the same floorplan . I merely gave other options. The Metris in nearly as small as the NV .

@RicardoRoams

5 жыл бұрын

@@stanw909 , Actually the Mercedes Metris is more on the size of the traditional mini van. The Metris is 202 in. long. The Toyota Sienna is 200 in. long. The Nissan NV 200 is 186 inches including the rear bumper. Quite a bit smaller than the Metris.

If they would only do swivel seats on the font, I'd buy one today. But they are very stubborn about it.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

the chassis has thorax airbags in the seats...

@MonkMan693

5 жыл бұрын

I looked it up, and could not figure out why it could not swivel. It just needs to be pointed forward when you are driving so the "bags" are in the right place.

With a heavy duty alternator, can you run the dash ac and heat when parked overnight?if so rear vents would make it more comfortable.

@Ultramobility

Жыл бұрын

not sure. could disturb others

As soon as you said the words “Nissan” and “CVT transmission” you lost me.

That’s more like the VW Westy than any other ... great idea and they will sell every one they make due to the price point !! Great

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@taradead

5 жыл бұрын

Not really...vw is much higher quality than nissan vans.

I heard that it’s very expensive or difficult to find servicing for ripped off pop top. Is that right? Is this true for any pop-top camper?

Is this model available in Australia?

I've been on the waiting list for this camper van for over a year, maybe even over a year and a half. In that time I've considered so many other options. Obsessively watching videos. I've looked at those short body Promaster builds. They are nice. BUT I keep coming back to this one. My purpose is to navigate L.A. traffic (I have a diabetic dog who needs an insulin shot every 12 hours, and that puts a dent into any dinner or going out plans across town unless she is with me. Hence, the comfy camper van with fridge--a $50K dog house...) as well as (stealth) camping. This one fits the bill as it is small enough to park in places like Venice, and fit into shady carports and parking garages. My build will start April 2019...available in June??? maybe... The goal of Recon Campers is to sell these through Nissan Dealerships. They may be available at the dealerships before my build is. Sigh. But it's great to know that these camper builds are road safe enough to purchase (or finance) through a car dealership. So looking forward to turning heads with this thing.

@PepeDeezNutz

4 жыл бұрын

Still not available. Nissan dealers don’t even know about them

@sunglee2048

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Anana. Is it being built yet? I'm on the list as of July and looks like a 10 month wait list.

@kennethlee7474

4 жыл бұрын

My build date was last May . Now it’s September and they haven’t started yet.

@sunglee2048

4 жыл бұрын

@@kennethlee7474 Not much of news these days from Recon. My guess is they are busy with setting shop in Michigan to better fulfill demand and future orders. I'm hoping we can buy car and conversion all in one package. That said, I'll wait patiently.

@kennethlee7474

4 жыл бұрын

Sung Lee they finally got my van delivered to Michigan from Mexico. But they said they are 6 weeks behind production so idk when my finished camper will arrive Sacramento dealer. Maybe middle of October or November. I started out June 2018. And buying from dealer direct? I don’t think it’ll happen anytime soon because they have to finish their contracted orders from their customers first. Be very very patient. It’ll be worth it. I’ve been researching small van campers for a long time and nobody can beat this recon campers.

Hi-My thoughts on this Recon. It's not about price, but more about what I call "micro camper" segment. This is smaller than the traditional RV motorhome or travel trailer. That is what it is and should be about about. Not $$$, because a couple or family could easily purchase any pre-owned class C rv for the same $ as this rig when looking at models 2-3 years old and up to 20K miles on the odometer, that sold for $70-80K originally. These are much more comfortable and more feature rich. So again, anyone that chooses the recon is really choosing it for the size. Benefits: * 15' long. * easy to drive, and park anywhere. * no need to tow a 2nd car like so many RVers need to do because their rigs are 30 to 40' long, and need a car for day trips into town and such... * wont kill you on the fuel bill if you intend lots of high mileage driving * you want to travel stealthy Drawbacks * it is small and space is very limited * no bathroom/inside shower. even using a soldiers bath with a wash cloth & bucket will not be pleasant * $50K price. Any late model pre-owned class c rv with low mileage starting at 22' long easily competes with this rig and offers far more space, comfort and features. Conclusion: The motivation for purchasing the recon has to be based on it's "micro-sized" platform. Which allows for a single use vehicle. Hell if you don't commute to work with a car, you could probably get away with this as your only vehicle. That is what you are buying as far as I can tell. Interesting to see if there is enough demand for something like this.

a 2017 Recon their demo model sold for 70k on Ebay I think last month started at 60k.

@04dram04

3 жыл бұрын

Geeez. You could get a nice full sized camper for that.

@mtnride4930

3 жыл бұрын

@@04dram04 True, I just sold my 87 VW Westfalia for 45k it was completely redone The buyer did not blink once at the price when he saw what he was getting. I now have a 2091 Mercedes Sprinter it is like my old van on steroids. 4wd very happy so far.

Hmm. It looks like you are sitting in the van but you must be just using a green screen or else you would have noticed that you cannot stand up in the rear with the pop toped. Right? Look at the angle of the ceiling once popped... much lower in the back, yes?

is there AC for when you sleep inside at night on a hot day?

Big fan of Recon. Better rear seating than the Tofino with 3pt seat belt AND integrated headrest. More comfortable rear seating compared to the Hummer Aktiv. The rear shower is pretty unique but it’s driven off the alternator or some such so you get “free” hot water as you drive, but curious how fast it heats up (and if engine is required to be running) after you use up the initial tank of hot water. Finally I have looked at the layout over and over again and just can’t see where you might put a porta potty while in “sleep” configuration, would love to get your take.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

Alex - thanks so much for sharing your experience with the Envy. i'd have to have the dimensions of all the cabinets. it might be possible to stow it in a cabinet by breaking the porta-potty down into two pieces: the cassette and the toilet part.

@RicardoRoams

5 жыл бұрын

Alex, You're right about the porta-potty. You could store it with the bed in the couch position but when the bed is unfolded there is just no room. So every time during the night when you "had to go", you would have to fold up the bed and then unfold it when you're done with "your business."

@guoseph

5 жыл бұрын

@@RicardoRoams Yeah I was thinking maybe with the front passenger seat folding flat that could work but doesn't look like there's enough headroom.

@sunglee2048

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same question. I'm thinking of using a tent just outside of the car with the porta potty, like an outhouse; winter visits will suck. :-)

There are several shortcomings. First they have limited availability. Two they have a communications problem. Last if you load it up , you are very close to the price of a far better equipped class b. I would osss in this and look for a low mileage WinneRialta , restore and upgrade it for less than the Recon. You would then have 20 plus mpg on highway, a generator , ac, microwave, heat , a/c , bath and shower. The Rialta was the best designed class b ever made

I hear they will start a production facility in Michigan, true?

@PepeDeezNutz

4 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s true

And Cascade Campers

Finally a proper European pop top van for the US! It’s odd that the builder didn’t opt for the swiveling passenger seat. I’m pretty sure Sussex Camper Vans use the model with the swiveling seat.

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

i'll have to ask their CEO about that decision. will report back when I hear!

@squeakD

5 жыл бұрын

Perhaps there are import issues with that particular chassis...

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

there may not be enough headroom to accommodate the swiveling mechanism. that does add about 9 inches or so to the height of the seat. maybe without the extended height a person wouldn't have enough head room. just a thought...

@squeakD

5 жыл бұрын

If you get time take a look at Sussex Campervans here on KZread. They build on this chassis.

@dougmanck4149

5 жыл бұрын

Recon says it's not legal in the US.

I want one 🙂

how much does it cost, how is the purchase process? I live in Indonesia.

nice

This might be a crazy question but can one get an RV loan on just the conversion portion itself?

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

You'd need to ask your bank or credit union. Recon is trying to work out a deal with Nissan where you can both see a Recon camper at a dealership and buy it there. I believe as a part of this deal they are looking to work with Nissan to provide financing options but they have yet to announce when Nissan dealerships will carry the Recon Envy. They may announce something at the Chicago Auto Fair this month.

Is there an update on Recon Campers? I think they have the best options for the money, but a video from almost 2 years ago stated that we would be able to go to a local Nissan dealership to see these and buy them, but I have heard nothing about that since - and no info about these on Nissan’s website. Wondering if their deal fell through? (Also, side note: I cannot believe that a car manufacturer in America has not yet offered small (and affordable) camper vans like this for sale yet. It completely baffles me: With all of the gorgeous national parks to travel to and the many families who want camper vans - just look at the number of comments in these videos to see just how many people want these. Some might even trade in their minivans and SUV’s for small camper vans like the Recon. Such a missed opportunity. Ok, done with my rant now. 😂)

@6:36 Is that someone parachuting in front of the windshield?

@angela-r

4 жыл бұрын

😂

A CVT? Didn't most of their cvt sedan models cause Nissan problems and and get a bad rep with long-term reliability issues? I wonder if they fixed them now. Any way, good review though.

I like the size of this camper van, and Recon's interior design and fittings look great, but its engine and CVT transmission are a big question mark for long-term durability. Nissan has acquired a poor reputation for its transmission (while other manufacturers have been making continuous improvements in their CVTs), and its engine is very weak, especially considering that much of the western U.S. is mountainous and over 3,500' elevation, while lugging the hundreds of pounds of added interior fittings.

I 'm Not Feeling Too Comfortable With This Idea. I Like The Size But The Serviceability Is A Bit Shaky To Me! As Always You Present A Quality Review! Thank You!

@Ultramobility

5 жыл бұрын

why many thanks jodeluna62!