Mini Electric Cooper SE Norfolk - Yorkshire road trip. Range, charging, efficiency and thoughts

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Improved charging.
After our Humber trip and slightly awkward charging, heading back with more experience makes the journey much easier.
I genuinely believe that stopping mid way on a 200 mile trip is OK. Even though I've driven much more, Non stop, being forced to stop has made me see the light. Even if I had a 300 mile range EV I'd stop now.
If I remember correctly we stopped in our Kona on the way to Brighton but decided not to charge. More range is great but its not the most important factor in choosing our EV. My view has definitely changed since my Kona days
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  • @fsr170409
    @fsr1704092 жыл бұрын

    Great video and very useful. I think these days it's charger anxiety not range anxiety. I've recently bought a Jaguar I pace and am looking forward to my trip to Alveston hall from Kent. Hopefully I'll learn from this trip as to what range I'm really going to get on a long journey .Thanks again for your great video. 👍

  • @northernsolar6391
    @northernsolar63912 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. Love seeing these real world usage. On longer journeys it's definitely nicer to stop rather than just slog it all the way to the end in one go.

  • @nickieredshaw7835
    @nickieredshaw7835 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great update video take care and safe travels everyone

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel, great to see more of your trips. I totally agree that the biggest change with an EV on a long journey is a little pre planning. I learned early on to have a back up charger nearby, to cover any chargers not working or all in use. Especially in towns, there are normally several options as to where to charge. Also if I get to 20% charge remaining, I head to a charger unless I am now within distance of the destination that I know has charging capacity, such as back home. Being able to do destination charging back to 100% seems key to making the trips easier. I also do like you, tryto find chargers where I can go for food/drink or visit the shops!

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's much more choice now to suit all our needs.... Which are different as always

  • @whocares264
    @whocares2642 жыл бұрын

    Super video thanks...

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a2 жыл бұрын

    Always good to see your adventures. This week I have a 50 round trip to Richmond, 40 mile round trip to Reading, 100 mile round trip to Southampton and 180 miles to Canterbury and back. My SLK will do it on a tank full with 3 gallons to spare. If I still had my Zoe I could do it all on home charging except the last trip which would require half an hour stop on the way home. I guess the Mini would require two quick stops. I think a 40 kWh usable in a mini would add some flexibility. Do you agree or are you happy with what you have?

  • @SimonEllwood
    @SimonEllwood2 жыл бұрын

    Good Video. I have a Tesla Model 3 LR and yes the long journey process is just the same but with longer legs. I quite enjoy the planning bit. We also charged at our holiday house near Keswick recently. I worked out we could slow charge overnight on the grannie charger and maybe get all the way home without charging. We drove from Keswick to Peterborough without charging. We had to do a comfort stop but no charging needed. In the end we had 48 miles range left when we got home. We did go a bit slower than we used to in the diesel (64 MPH) but that made the driving more relaxed and easier. We could easily have done the speed limit too, with a very short splash and dash but we had the time.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure range will keep improving but I've learnt a good lesson about stopping Big battery is great for storing solar power though

  • @enyaq_gorm
    @enyaq_gorm2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Nigel, very much the same thing as I am trying to do with my videos, showing people you can do these sort of trips with ease in an EV

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    To a Tesla driver it's easy but to a new EV driver Mini or other it's all new so it all helps.

  • @enyaq_gorm

    @enyaq_gorm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle depends where you are, when I had a tesla I was on trips with no superchargers. To be honest I find the enyaq just as easy as the model 3 was now as there are so many more chargers than 4 years ago when I had the leaf

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very ture, it's much much easier no than it was a few years ago

  • @reallyisitjustme
    @reallyisitjustme2 жыл бұрын

    Really liking your videos, nice relaxed rambling style, not so sure about the very early starts though. Myrtle Mini looks like a great car, I had an original mini as my first car. I have been forced to chose a car with a longer range for my first EV, as a wheelchair user the huge stress you talk about is magnified as you have the usual worries plus will the charger be accessible. Instavolt are the main protagonists for installing inaccessible chargers, it is such a shame that they seem to be ignoring disabled drivers. It would be a great idea for fuel stations to start fitting chargers, attendants already on site, covered and well lit safer areas, has to be a win win.

  • @fsr170409

    @fsr170409

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check out Warners wheeling about.This gent is a wheelchair user and runs a mini e.His uploads are really useful as he goes into accessibility in depth.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do prefer an early start but it does impact efficiency being colder, the Mrs isn't so keen. I bribe her

  • @voltagevillain7342
    @voltagevillain73422 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel. Great video as always. Can you do a video on the regen braking to show how best to use/recharge. Motorways I am told kill the battery if you get a free run whereas stop/start is much better. Thanks.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did one using the Kona testing efficiency in level 0,1,2 and 3

  • @martinwaby9946
    @martinwaby9946 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel could you do a video on the mini charging card and the features please I’m studying your videos and finding them very helpful .

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    Жыл бұрын

    Mini charging scheme isn't something I'm interested in. Scheme uses unreliable network so not for me

  • @garymorris801
    @garymorris8012 жыл бұрын

    i have one as well best mini ever

  • @micheleheynes4298
    @micheleheynes42982 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel. As I previously stated. South Africa has a scarcity of EV's. Till last year, we only ever received: 1st Gen Nissan Leaf 24kWh BMW i3 in all battery capacities and all having the REx Jaguar I-Pace Mini Cooper SE Volvo XC40 P8 Recharge Porsche Taycan Only got the the BMW iX in December This year Audi E-tron BMW iX3 (this month) Complications: No Chademo - but it is being phased out. Majority of DC charging 30kW, few above 60kW and none over 100kW. Oh yes, South Africans want to drive long routes and do it in as short as possible of a time. Pro's for me 1. Planning your routes 2. Keeping me relaxed 3. Giving my ETA's to point and contacting my liaison (family member to say I arrived, and if my plans will be adjusted for the trip) 3. A stop shorter then 30minutes annoys me, because I want to stretch my legs, and peacefully want to buy my snacks for the trip if I didn't put anything in. 4. If you calculate each activity a stop should never be less then 30minutes. Or are people made to take out the full bladder and replace it with an empty bladder and stomach for no bathroom breaks. And what do they use to stay hydrated and fueled as a human? Sarcasm doesn't suite me. 5. The CCS (DC) chargers are mostly located close to the food courts. Makes me happy. But looking at human needs and requirements, then comparing it to charging times required. You are not inconvenienced unless you doing your roadtrips on an unsafe manner of fastest time and less relaxation and a bigger likelihood of falling asleep behind the wheel. Being a relaxed driver, and free to drive slower, stopping longer, and not chasing your grave, makes the best roadtrips. Or is my 42 year old female driver saying the wrong thing. Boys and Men don't get me wrong. Speed is fun, but doing it in an unsafe manner isn't cool, so a racetrack yeah. I needed to attend to way too many accidents where people needlessly lost their lives because of a person driving like a looney toons.

  • @johntisbury
    @johntisbury2 жыл бұрын

    I do love a stop in an EV, plug it in, go for a pee and a coffee and then you're off again. 20 mins maximum stop time in our experience. If you want to stop for something to eat you have to plan to charge then move and park up or park up then charge. Eat, charge, park or park, eat, charge, or perhaps charge, park, eat; so many options.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its a problem isn't it with cars like the tesla that charge too quick , you have ti move the car. Mini seems similar, slower but fills up fast

  • @johntisbury

    @johntisbury

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle it is, it's really the same process we're all used with a petrol/diesel car. Park, eat and fill up with fuel on the way out. No different really, just as you say in the video takes a bit more planning until it becomes second nature.

  • @jeffreycooper8408
    @jeffreycooper84082 жыл бұрын

    Presumably things will only get even better. The only reason now for a big battery is to be able to fill it totally from free solar, and not pay anything out on the road !!

  • @martinwray7001

    @martinwray7001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another good reason to have a big battery is that it will degrade more slowly because of less cycling. Assuming similar chemistry and about 800 cycles of useful life, a 60kWh car should go twice as far as a 30kWh car, before terminal battery degradation. Take the figures with a pinch of salt, but I'd say the theory is robust.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    More than 800. Home battery is thousands of cycles car will be more as thermally managed

  • @martinwray7001

    @martinwray7001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle I thought the charging cycle quotation by Hyundai for the Kona was 800 and something? Good enough for about 200k miles if average real world range is 250 miles. Some of Bjorn's recent degradation tests show that it's quite high on the smaller battery Kia Soul with the 24kWh pack. Not sure how BMW/mini differ, or how much buffer there is to mitigate degradation over time.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@martinwray7001 guess that depends on how much you rapid it. Car batteries have a the benefits to last longer but have the highest loads too

  • @erolcoulson9194
    @erolcoulson9194 Жыл бұрын

    Aaaaawwwww is your dog enjoying the journey....

  • @neilcooper4738
    @neilcooper47382 жыл бұрын

    Great video , very informative. Could do with adding a K to Yorshire in the title :-)

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well spotted

  • @linlithgowcc
    @linlithgowcc2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Getting a test drive on Sunday. One garage said they are only selling model 2&3 right now as wiring harnesses come from Ukraine. Not sure if that’s true or not. One question. Are you using MINI servicing or local indie garage. I prefer to support local garages and also no mini service centre near me. Any thoughts on this?

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to use cleevely EV, James from KZread /twitter fame. Dealers no where near as good except for maybe software updates and maps

  • @voltagevillain7342

    @voltagevillain7342

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ask Mini dealer for latest servicing packs. They are no longer called TLC (like years ago) but they do offer servicing for a fee.

  • @andrewdyson4255
    @andrewdyson42552 жыл бұрын

    Did you inform the house owner you were charging the car ? Did they charge extra? Interesting to know as you wouldn’t get fee petrol from a holiday rental, and I assume it’s going to get more common

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Asked about the plug before we booked . Never met anyone who didn't offer free charging , it's standard these days. Just a couple of ££

  • @effin1233
    @effin12332 жыл бұрын

    Across humber Bridge is red sails. Really close osprey chargers

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very handy to know thanks

  • @bigdaves57
    @bigdaves572 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel, any reason you don’t use the HUD?

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sudan doesn't like it, I use it

  • @sergigorchs7329
    @sergigorchs73292 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel. I' ve notice Cracker in the back of your Mini. I believe it is even happier than you with this Mini. 😬

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    He loves it and loves his "ride in the car ". Haven't tried him in the back seat yet but that's on our list

  • @TrevorHa
    @TrevorHa2 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to get my EV and do "cheap" trips like this. Sadly my order that was due May 30th now has no ETA 😞 Ordering a new EV at the moment is not a pleasant experience. 9 months of hassle.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It'll get there. I know that pain waiting . It'll be worth it to

  • @TrevorHa

    @TrevorHa

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle it's not all bad. The delay has freed up some funds for another eco purchase 😂

  • @fsr170409

    @fsr170409

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally understand your dilemma.I ordered an Ioniq5 way back in November. I was predicted to be delivered in early May ,after contacting my dealership I was told that they couldn't guarantee delivery date as it wasn't even in build.I gave up and bought my Jaguar I pace ,,which was an ex demonstration car.

  • @TrevorHa

    @TrevorHa

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fsr170409 Oh my ID3 order was worse. Ordered start October 2021, told March delivery. January I get a message saying looking at July/August delivery. February get another message saying December delivery. I cancelled start of March as Vauxhall said they could deliver in 13 weeks..... When I cancelled my ID3 they said I would be looking at March/April for delivery. So 18 - 19 month wait for a VW. If my Mokka does not arrive before October though I will be gutted I didn't just wait for the ID3. Fun times!

  • @fsr170409

    @fsr170409

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's why I went for an ex demonstration model.I did have the old mokka but the new one looked smaller. They're great cars though and have been getting great reviews. My friend got the last I'd 3 that was in the London area last year ,it was just the basic model and he loves it.

  • @davidsworld5837
    @davidsworld58372 жыл бұрын

    if there were charging places with the amount of chargers as petrol station pumps have. as often as there are petrol stations. instead we have 1 or 2 chargers at places that are some times not as easy to find as no signage to show you were they are. that's more why it is harder to do. many people just look at cost for charging saying that instavolt is 57p and that's too much. when you have to really take in other costs. 1 - road tax. 2 - No servicing ( oil, oil filter, spark plugs, etc) that an ev does not need. no oily driveway. stop in any traffic and use up fuel not moving. you need to look at all the companies that need to use fuel or electricity to make all the parts a petrol car uses over its life. and all the waste of used parts going to landfill'

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    True but on this journey petrol stations had cars in them ,chargers were mostly empty . Like for like isn't needed and it's improving all the time , it's exciting to be part of this huge change

  • @micheleheynes4298
    @micheleheynes42982 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nigel. As I previously stated. South Africa has a scarcity of EV's. Till last year, we only ever received: 1st Gen Nissan Leaf 24kWh BMW i3 in all battery capacities and all having the REx Jaguar I-Pace Mini Cooper SE Volvo XC40 P8 Recharge Porsche Taycan Only got the the BMW iX in December This year Audi E-tron BMW iX3 (this month) Complications: No Chademo - but it is being phased out. Majority of DC charging 30kW, few above 60kW and none over 100kW. Oh yes, South Africans want to drive long routes and do it in as short as possible of a time. Pro's for me 1. Planning your routes 2. Keeping me relaxed 3. Giving my ETA's to point and contacting my liaison (family member to say I arrived, and if my plans will be adjusted for the trip) 3. A stop shorter then 30minutes annoys me, because I want to stretch my legs, and peacefully want to buy my snacks for the trip if I didn't put anything in. 4. If you calculate each activity a stop should never be less then 30minutes. Or are people made to take out the full bladder and replace it with an empty bladder and stomach for no bathroom breaks. And what do they use to stay hydrated and fueled as a human? Sarcasm doesn't suite me. 5. The CCS (DC) chargers are mostly located close to the food courts. Makes me happy. But looking at human needs and requirements, then comparing it to charging times required. You are not inconvenienced unless you doing your roadtrips on an unsafe manner of fastest time and less relaxation and a bigger likelihood of falling asleep behind the wheel. Being a relaxed driver, and free to drive slower, stopping longer, and not chasing your grave, makes the best roadtrips. Or is my 42 year old female driver saying the wrong thing. Boys and Men don't get me wrong. Speed is fun, but doing it in an unsafe manner isn't cool, so a racetrack yeah. I needed to attend to way too many accidents where people needlessly lost their lives because of a person driving like a looney toons.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    All very true, the thing I try to get across, is I thought I was one of them... But once you've gone EV things seem different and you see the light

  • @micheleheynes4298

    @micheleheynes4298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle Nigel, you are bringing the, "You don't need all that range, and you just need to take a trip as having fun and exploring. Inadvertently giving you less or no anxiety as you continue with the vehicle. If I may say, like people always said small city cars are for the city, but it doesn't limit you to the city. Just a bit of planning and checking where you can refuel or charge. And as long as the vehicle can make it to the next stop, you are good to go. Stressing about the range and size of the vehicle will only leave you to never push yourself out of your comfort zone. As you'll be surprised in what smaller vehicles can do comfortably, by just modifying what you pack and the speed you drive. And yes, while playing you will find what you and your vehicle are capable of.

  • @EVPuzzle

    @EVPuzzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Michele Heynes I like to challenge the norm, it's just who I am Michele. The Mini is surprising as its actually really comfortable I long trips, more so than some of the huge crossovers and SUVs that are out there. I've just got out of a Polestar 2 and hot to say the Mini rides better and crashes less. Who'd have thought that. The Mini just lacks space. Who oh why haven't they built the Clubman in EV form yet. I'd buy it today. Literally today. The countryman hmmmm not a fan, but ugly etc but may well be a comfy car too. I really can't stand those people that say they need a huge car for taking rubbish to the tip or for th huge xmas shop or the once a year holiday. Those are the times you cram the car full. I don't want to buy a car for its space, I want comfort and feel, space I can compromise on. Each to their own though.

  • @micheleheynes4298

    @micheleheynes4298

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EVPuzzle Nigel, for once I agree with a male counterpart. I wouldn't mind owning the Volvo XC40 even in P6 single motor form. But the Mini makes a better proposition for me. Smaller, mostly one person in the car, maybe two. Why oh why have a car with rear doors, and if I need more packing space, down goes the rear seats. Before some man says I can't park, I can reverse parallel park a Ford Ranger Double Cab that is about 5 meters in length, in one move on a good day, and 2 maybe 3 on a bad day. So don't think people that drive small cars never drove or can't drive bigger vehicles. It's about the enjoyment, not just the capabilities of the vehicle you going to use once or twice a year. I understand if it is a few times a months or more, then it isn't a fruitless expenditure, but an essential part of your life. But if it's for 1-3 people that doesn't do long trips, a teenie weenie polkadot bikini car makes perfect sense, unless you massive and need to sit on the back seat of the Mini to drive it (kind of very tall). I'm just between 5'8 and 5'9 (5'8½), so not that tall and not that short.

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