Just as "i" is the symbol for current and [A] is its unit, 'u' is the symbol for EMF (sic. voltage) and [V] is its unit. It is one of those quantities where people tend to use "u" and "v" interchangeably, but the correct and unambiguous notation would be to use "u" like the manufacturer has used here. To be sure, for DC EMF, the symbol would be a capitalized "U" (again, they've used this correctly). Finally, someone who got it right :) . If you feel like arguing: "But why be so pedantic, and use 'EMF' instead of 'voltage'?" ask yourself this - How much 'amperage' do you charge your LiPo with? gah! "Current" sounds so much nicer...

@la7yka

7 жыл бұрын

In other words; U is "voltage", not "volts". I is "current", not amperes. Etc.

@la7yka

7 жыл бұрын

It depends. It's the SI-system. As I know USA still use gallons, miles, inches and probably V and E too. At least for some time ago. It's a cool table for SI-parameters for electromagnetism a little donw this wikipage. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

@charliephillips5350

7 жыл бұрын

Aditya Mehendale why on U.K. Test certification is v denoted as u on ac systems and Uo as measured voltage on the supply characteristics page

@AdityaMehendale

7 жыл бұрын

I have no clue if the U.K. test-certification is consistent in its nomenclature. The SI is. They use V as the symbol for electric potential (and not U). As I said earlier, people tend to use it interchangeably. In mainland Europe, for example, the word for this electrical quantity roughly translates to "tension" - not the kind of tension you'd get in a spring, but rather there is a separate word, also used for e.g. social tension, perhaps used similarly to the English "high-tension-cable" (I know that the cable-analogy is bad, since a high tension cable actually refers to its elastic tension.). That being said, any EE would understand what you meant if you consistently used either V or U as a symbol for electric potential. The down-side to using "V" is that the symbol for the unit is exactly the same "V". This makes an (in?)equality like "V = 12V" give me the creeps. In any case, I'd recommend NOT using the symbol E. This is used categorically and universally to denote the electric-field, with a unit volt-per-meter (V/m) [which is the same as newton per coulomb N/C].

@charliephillips5350

7 жыл бұрын

Aditya Mehendale rather than I = 5amps where as v can often stay as a constant measurement and unit I understand not fully grasping the cable elasticity thing but I'm not electronic so much as electrical if that that makes sense I guess in the long haul it doesn't really matter as long as you know not to earth it or short it your ok

U is symbol for voltage and it is measured in Volts -> U = 5V I is symbol for current and it is measured in Amps -> I = 2A Ohms Law is normally written as U = R * I OVP, OCP, OPP are abbreviation so they use V/C/P instead for symbol used in physics expressions. Be carefully with those protections. Depending on device it may be only hard limit, it may shutdown or clamp input. The last option with no protection on input may ruin your day (although it seems that this meter simply power down). Thanks for review, I was thinking that I get this device and now I know that I want it :)

U is pretty common in Europe. I've been taught U=R*I.

@LarsSimonsen

8 жыл бұрын

Same. R is meaused in Ω, I is measured in A, and U is measured in V.

@ismzaxxon

8 жыл бұрын

I must admit. U i have not heard of. At uni, our calcs were, I =E/R current, Electromotive force, Resistance. I would say the U is a typo in the translation. U is not a standard abreviation on the IEEE standards

@Jonas_Meyer

8 жыл бұрын

Seems like U as a symbol for Voltage came from the latin word urgere. Also atleast in germany we have our own standard organisation for electronics stuff (VDE) which is often used which specifies U.

@blaser80

8 жыл бұрын

In the UK we still use V for voltage at school and for more advance courses an epsilon (Ɛ). I think at university we used an uppercase epsilon for DC voltage and lowercase for AC voltage, but that was over 10 years ago for me.

@ismzaxxon

8 жыл бұрын

just to sort this out with an update. V is the symbol for voltage. ie, 2.5V. when making a calculation U is used because it is the outcome of a voltage/current or whatever calculation. my research has uncovered that the use of "U" is not a direct unit of voltage. The IEEE have confirmed this. I must admit, i didnt know this myself until it came up in the Video. V =voltage. U is used to indicate the result of a calculation in which voltage is one of the constants.

The answer to your question regarding the Letter U - That's us scot's fault, now adopted across Europe. Traditionally quantity (here voltage) and its unit (volts) are kept separate, which means using different characters for either: current (I) is measured in amperes (A) and resistance (R) is measured in ohms (the upper-case omega). Having V to mean both quantity and unit sort of violates the spirit. So we use U to denote quantity.

@VanClaaude

2 жыл бұрын

V in our Europe is for Velocity. Letter U is for Unterschied which means "difference" in German like potential difference. And also at that time they ran out of letters for physical properties.

Well done! Your explanation showing CV vs CC modes was nice. A test with an LED strip would also show how CC mode can be used to control the LED brightness. Thanks for the video!! PS: I have always used V to describe voltage and E to describe electromotive force.

That power supply is awesome for the price. Looks like a good power supply for someone like me who has very little electronics experience.

lol, gotta love when you overlook the simple stuff

Someone needs to send one of these into Dave EEVblog lol...He would love this....

@yalgret

6 жыл бұрын

haha kzread.info/dash/bejne/datmo8yck92ul5c.html

In Austria we use U for Voltage I for Current and R for Resistance

I have 2 of these now. I love them I power them each from a lenovo laptop power supply (20 volt 4.5 Amp) and can use for 2 independent supplies or a +/- rail configuration. Have had no issues so far and the current and voltage displayed is spot on from my external metering.

@iforce2d

8 жыл бұрын

Good to hear. Yeah I was thinking to power this from a retired laptop power brick too.

@christophernetherton9389

8 жыл бұрын

That is the best option as they are isolated and will let you operate in serial ( 2x voltage) or back to back for a +/- supply. I haver a boatload of lenovo laptop bricks from work.

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

Hi friends. there is good news. we just publish the DPS power supply module ( DPS3003, DPS3005, DPS 5005 and DPS 3012) this is the link www.aliexpress.com/store/group/DPS-Programmble-control-power-supply/923042_508466030.html DPS series is updated version, it updates some function and measurement range is increasing, especially DPS 30V12 ( current is 12A)hz.aliexpress.com/store/923042 you can check ..

@mdijkens

8 жыл бұрын

Where can we find info on what is updated/changed/improved?

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

DPS series are updated version. Panel is different. In DPS series, we change the M1/↑and M2/↓ into V/↑and A/↓. You can press those button set the voltage and current fast. We add a new function “set default boot open or close output” Others are not changed.. DPS5005 still need diode to charge the battery.

That was a great video , I’ just purchased the same. Looking device from eBay for $75 it has a higher output of 20 amps I intend to use it for some projects that run multiple large stepper motors

Well, it's been a year since the release of the video. Is this neat gadget still performing OK? Would you recommend it for a hobby-class variable power supply?

bought one even before this video ended. hopefully it will hold up - but seems like a great value & i'll find it very useful in some of my projects not only w/ Arduino, but with high-power LED's. thanks for this - you are an experimenter after my own heart! found you after watching iNav vids. Russ from Coral Springs, FL, USA

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

if you want to buy high power? we are designing DP30v/12A module . you can keep eye on my shop hz.aliexpress.com/store/923042

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

Hi friends. there is good news. we just publish the DPS power supply module ( DPS3003, DPS3005, DPS 5005 and DPS 3012) this is the link www.aliexpress.com/store/group/DPS-Programmble-control-power-supply/923042_508466030.html DPS series is updated version, it updates some function and measurement range is increasing, especially DPS 30V12 ( current is 12A)hz.aliexpress.com/store/923042 you can check ..

@rholt2

8 жыл бұрын

i have been using this 505v for some time now and really like it. i just gave mine away to my granddaughter who is very interested in learning all things Arduino (and eventually flying quads)... i'm not even all the way home (from Portand Maine to Coral Springs Florida) and i'm missing my supply/meter so much that i'm now ordering the DPS5015. nice unit! Russ from Coral Springs, Fl usa

Interesting! Came across it as well.. Thanks for sharing this! :) Damn.. glad to see that loose wire didn't short something out :| Handy pandy thing by the looks of it :D

Hi, thanks for sharing the info! Do you know you could series connect 2 of those to get a negative/positive power supply? Could not find any info on that or any datasheet.

The overvolt protection 'normally' works by clamping the DC input short circuit if overvolt is detected. This might damage the DC supply, but save the DUT. Put a fuse inline with your battery pack please! Note: I suspect that your regulator/PSU may just open circuit the output, guess it is up to you to test.

@iamthetinkerman

6 жыл бұрын

NoName He doesn't need a fuse for testing purposes, the circuit has adequate protection, unless your anal, then use a fuse!

Very nice, I plan to combine something like this with an old ATX PSU to have strong cv rails and a variable output with these features. But I still have questions: what is the minimum output voltage and current?

Thanks for posting this! I ordered one from Amazon!

In Germany voltage always gets named U. Uin - Uout - Udiff etc. U=R*I Why it's that way is pretty much unknown and very much limited to Germany. Some say it comes from latin "urgere" (drive, push)

@miguelsantos6969

6 жыл бұрын

Distortionize is ohm law where U (voltage) = I (corrent)× R (resistance)

Pretty neat device. It would be cool if it would have some data logging, or at least serial output with current voltage and current being drawn. The screen refresh is pretty low, at about 1-2Hz. I assume the protection mechanisms are implemented in software, and not using dac and comparators that triggers something. (other than current limiting I assume), which might be a bit unsafe. It most likely will deliver more current or power for about half a second, than what is set in settings, so still be careful. Any ideas about turnup / turndown behavior, noise, ripple and load regulation.

u = voltage in general and v = Volt is the unit in which it is measured kg*m^2/s^3 *A

@anonymoususer6448

3 жыл бұрын

just like I stands for current and A is the unit of measurement for current (I) ;-)

Just wanted to say nice job on all of your videos. Keep up the gear work

@iforce2d

8 жыл бұрын

Thankyou!

The S-OVP, S-OCP, S-OPP are for the power source i suppose. If you have a power supply that is 50V, 2A to power this regulator you can set these values so it won't overload if it is unprotected. Pretty nice feature to have for diy projects i must say.

I'm planning to order one, really nice video. Thank you.

Good review, going to get some of these for test kit at work off the back of this.

U is the letter used in physics for energy potential which is relative to some other potential, this difference is measured in Volts which is derived from the potential energy needed to move charge based on Newtons as a measure of power and so on. In English U is voltage and measured in V which is volts which makes the definitions muddy. In other languages these are sometimes separated by calling U for example potential or something else which is measured in volts (V). You can't increase volt (V) no more than you can increase a meter but you can increase voltage (U) just as you can increase distance which is then measured in V, it's a fairly subtle difference but an important one.

Great review for me, this unit is going straight into my cheap QJE PS3005 30v 5a supply. Thanks :)

hi, gr8 review, cud u pls tel wethr i can use it for supplying power to my lap top externally by using rechrg batteries, as the internal battery is dead and not available

OPP, you know me! too funny, I started thinking the same thing when u were talking about OCP...lol

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

the constant current fuction can realize OCP. This one has CC mode. it can protect module ..

250 Watts! I have a 2 channel 150W Mastec that's 10 times the size of that thing that I paid $200 for. Wondering if I should replace it with 2 of these?

@maxsnts

7 жыл бұрын

That thing however is only the controller, you still need a DC Power supply to attach that to. One that can output 40v at 6/7A

Is the output on this floating? I'd like to hook up two of these to the same power source to create a dual channel supply where I can hook the positive of one of the outputs to the negative of the other output so I can do -V/Common/+V for running op amps, but the supplies need to be floating for this to work. Thanks!

God I love your modesty. KZread, especially from down under, has become a pit of writhing egos. Care on man.

I just bought 1 of these but the 5015 witch is 50 volt 15 amp it comes with a driver and was $49 I am going to use an atx power supply to run it so should be good

U is also used for voltage in France !

About the U as volts, here in Norway we use U as volts, R for resistance and i for ampere. don't remember why we use U as volts since we only use URI in ohm's law at school where you use VRI? and I have never seen U instead of volt in real life outside school (working as a mechanic last 7 years)

I have this module and the 50v 20A version, I use it to charge 18650's, no need to use the diode just always connect and disconnect with the output turned on with the current limit set low, the diode will have a voltage drop so the output voltage will be less than on the display.

I HAVE built a simple digital automatic 18650 3s charger last night. Esp8266 n oled are being used.

I wish they could make one with a bigger screen size, I have one of the 50v 15 amp ones, very happy with it

Can someone suggest a cheap case and fitting AC adapter for this ?

Interesting little module, now just to get a 3D printed case with an external cooling fan on back with banana plugs on the front bottom under the display for power output out of the front. Pretty cool it has the CC/CV and protections cutouts built in. Not bad for $30, too bad it's not a boost/buck converter where you can feed it in 12vdc from an old busted 300~+ watt ATX power supply, have it be able to step up to 50~vdc or all the way down to it's minimum, right now it just looks like it is a buck converter and you must supply more input voltage than output voltage. Either way...pretty interesting little module, thanks for the review

I have the DP30V5A but I-set and U-set are way off. When I-set is on 1.000A, it runs in CC at 0.900A ! Can I calibrate these values?

Can we use this to directly charge my MacBook, iPad and iPhone? Instead of using chargers that came in the box that plugs to 110v?

Thanks are you still happy with this? Have you tried charging Lithium batteries with it?

Thats the same case az the freq counter / tak units I uzed in my car. Kinda funny that they stuffed all that in there insted uv making a bigger case.

in lithuania we use U for voltage

I am thinking of this to control a battery output to match my DSLR's specs. DSLR wants 8 volts 3 amps. Within some limits, this will allow setting output voltage and output amperage independently, right? So I could run 9 or 12 volts as input and set it to output 8 volts 3 amps. (I am obviously not educated in these matters. I just want lots of amp hours to run my DSLR for astrophotography. Would appreciate your advice). ...thanks, Stephen

can the imput be cromado the wall? 220/230v

Voltage is noted with both V or U. Thanks for the video.

AWESOME I need to power mine up remotely - and it needs to come ON - by default... I'm not there to press the button!

Is it possible to connect the DPS UART to a UART on an Arduino Mega2560?

can I connect 11.1 volt lipo battery and get out 54 volts ? I connecting 4 led strips to 11.1 volt lipo and power is to low to get them to be very bright if I connect 2 x 11.1 volt lipo they are very bright but wires getting very hot after short time trying to find solution or boosting power from 11.1 or reducing, What you think ?

what is the minimum current limit? cause the LTC3780 is much cheaper but with no display and also the minimum current limit is 300mA

What I want to see is someone putting a 100W load on it and hooking it up to a scope to see just how much the output oscillates. The last Chinese bench supply I tested was going almost 1V peak to peak under load.

I got the 30V 5A version, because it was half the price of the 50V model and I am only running it off 24V

V is the (ISO) unit (Volt) of tension, U is the letter for the physical dimension (same as A stands for the unit of Ampere and I for the dimension of current). Not sure if in the US you use V also for the dimension, but as it is an ISO unit, you shouldn't.

Excellent functional review !! Thanks !! ;) ;)

U, I and P is the SI-system's symbols for voltage (V), current (A) and power (W). So it's probably intentional. However, thanks for this video. One is on the way ;) If the maximum current can be preset, this unit will be perfect for powering high power laser diodes (which are current hungry, but easily destroyed at just a little overcurrent).

Bien día. Yo deseo saber si se puede desactivar el ovp y el ocp?

I bought one of these not long ago and use it all the time. I only wish when you push the button to change voltage or current that it would stay in the change mode until I push the button again to end or even better, have an option in the settings to have it work that way or the default way which is automatically exit the change mode after 10 or 15 seconds or no input. When I am experimenting and want to play with voltage and/or current it is annoying to have it exit change mode by itself so I have to push the volt or current button again then push the knob two or three times to get to the digit I want to change... wash, rinse, repeat.... Also, interesting that the manual calls it the coding potentiometer since, as you mentioned, it is not a potentiometer but then no surprise from a translated document.

@iforce2d

5 жыл бұрын

I bought another one more recently that has the feature you mention, where the voltage changing mode stays until you turn it off. It's a larger power one though, so not sure if they have made this modification to the lower spec ones as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZ2OtrKLoNy8orA.html

@tornadokat

5 жыл бұрын

@@iforce2d Hear that? It's the sound of slightly less than $40 leaving my wallet...LOL

is this the one use for voltage injection in repair motherboard?

Small, neat & I guess accurate; but unless you use regularly the setting routines would prove a challenge. I notice that any tripping of a protection setting might easily go un-noticed; maybe a flashing indicator would help?

@iforce2d

7 жыл бұрын

yes, the silent tripping of a limit has got me many times...

Nice device!

Where the waveform with the oscilloscope?

Excellent video!

thats a nice handy tool. cheap. great for automotive use too.

Help required! My instruction are in chinglish, spanglish and germish. What does "Please to not off turn, yes." mean?

@zemaneldaquinta

6 жыл бұрын

Tayro Thinkingoutloud lol

my power supply is rated for 240w, 24v at 10a. I actually need 48v at 5a. will this work? or will the voltage be limited to the power supply's voltage?

@iforce2d

7 жыл бұрын

This is a step-down only (buck) converter. As it says in the product description the input must be 1V higher than the output. If you are going to run it for long periods of time, I would be inclined to get one that is not cutting it so fine regarding the power limits. This one is rated to 250W so I think your 48x5 would be pushing it pretty hard.

opp yeah you know ME!.... liked that one, made me chuckle

2:00 the input voltage is 6-55V but there is no indication of an input current. Does it even matter because it will draw as much current as needed? And also, what should the min. input current be? btw. great video. EDIT: I researched a bit and as I thought, it depends on how much current you use and there's is a way to calculate it if you know the efficiency.

The problem with this unit is simply that it is really involved to set the parameters for a data set, then saving. The instructions are very poorly laid out so initially at least it's quite demanding. The instructions (for example) refer to a potentiometer not the rotary encoder which it is. Ideally this should couple via SW to a PC & enable much faster & more reliable programming.

Thanks for sharing. I've been eyeing these lately. I have some higher voltage power adapters floating around, plus some 40 volt lithium batteries for lawn equipment. Would probably work out quite well.

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

if you want charge battery? it can charge the battery , but it need a diode. and when you buy this , the diode will be in the package. 40v lithium batteries is ok. input voltage is max 55v.. don;t worry , you can try hz.aliexpress.com/store/product/RD-DP50V5A-Constant-Voltage-current-Step-down-Programmable-Power-Supply-module-buck-Voltage-converter-color-LCD/923042_32596330856.html

@TexasAce

8 жыл бұрын

I am wanting to build a case for this unit and was curious if I could wire the diode into the circuit all of the time or should it only be used when charging batteries? Any problem with leaving it installed all of the time?

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

Hi friend good, you can add it what you want. about the diode, only when you charge the battery, you can wire the diode, understand ?

@zendell37

8 жыл бұрын

Texas Ace If you put it in a case, you can easily wire a switch in the output that would change between diode and non diode output. It wouldn't take much effort to make that work.

@TexasAce

8 жыл бұрын

Thats a good ideal, had no thought of a switch. I ended up just putting 2 sets of power jacks on it, 1 directly connected and the other run through the diode. Figured that having 2 outputs would not be the worst thing around anyways. Although for some reason I forgot that it is only a buck supply, so now I am on the hunt for a higher voltage power supply instead of an ATX PS. Think the best I have found is a 48v / A supply for $25ish, or since I doubt I will need that much power I might just go with the 3A version for $15. Still should come out to around $50 all said and done for a 50v/5A adjustable power supply, not bad at all.

U = voltage I= current R= resistance first thing you learn in school just basic.

@brandysigmon9066

7 жыл бұрын

We learned the same with k,p,x

@nobytes2

7 жыл бұрын

J IJzer Went to Naval Electronics Core school and we never used U. Instead we used E.

@Xuallus

6 жыл бұрын

E (for electromotive force) is what we were taught in electrician school.

@MasterNiva

6 жыл бұрын

me too!!!

@robertsmiczsmiczamplificat593

5 жыл бұрын

J IJzer I received my electrical engineering degree in the 80’s and we were taught E=I x R. .E = voltage or electromotive force. They eventually changed to V. New engineers i meet in the field use V., but i still use E. I have personally never heard U used. I have worked with Engineers all over the world, but never heard them use U for Voltage. New to me. I’m not denying it, i have just never heard of it.

What battery pack and charger are you using??

in Bosnia we use U for voltage

I have seen the these 10$ cheaper without the m1, set, and m2 buttons does anyone know what the difference is?

Question does it have a protection for back feed into your battery or was that package needed?

@poopandfartjokes

Жыл бұрын

I assume it doesn’t have it built in and that diode is needed for reverse protection

Hey I need some help with this unit. I got one off Ebay a little cheaper so I kinda suspect that but it wont maintain a steady output. The input is steady so that's not it. Any ideas?

@iforce2d

4 жыл бұрын

If the problem is that you suspect something.... not sure how I can help with that.

So combining it with a PC PSU to use on the bench?

@jussapitka6041

5 жыл бұрын

It's only a buck converter so you can't get anything higher than 12 volts.

Show which cable where to what in 2min.

Late but hell just found this vid. U is potential energy, V(volt) is unit of measure of electrical potential. In electrical just kinda became voltage or just volts, as well but not as much I=current some times is referred to amperage or just amps.

In Croatia we always used U for voltage and I for current. I=U/R

In school I was told the formula to calculate the power usage P=UxI (Power=voltage X amperage). This is ohm's law I always hated that formula and always wrote it down as W=VxA and got in a couple of arguments with my teacher. more than 10 years later, I saw that teacher in a supermarket, and he still remembered me. He told me I was one of the few students that actually cared about what he was teaching. And that he mist the arguments in class after I drop his course and went on with metalworking the next year. I stilt think of that teacher every time I use ohm's law

Nice explanation :) keep it up!

16:20 had me cracking up!

buen review, de ese modulo controlador de fuentes, muy completo

Probably a dumb question but I’ll ask it anyway. I have a solar panel with variable output, that I want to use to power a device that has a minimum requirement, and gets fussy if it gets less than what it needs. Could I use this device to set output parameters for my device, so that it never receives less than 8V or less than 1A? If the solar panel can’t meet either of those requirements because of the light levels I’d like this controller to just switch off the output and wait until those levels can be met. Is that possible???

@iforce2d

6 жыл бұрын

It doesn't really sound like a suitable thing for that purpose. No ability to get it to switch off at a certain input voltage at least. Usually things using solar will have a battery between them as a buffer, which the solar can charge when sunny, and the end-user device can still use when not sunny. Only problem is, you then need a circuit between the solar panel and battery so that the battery doesn't simply try to 'power' the panel when not sunny... I've never tried it myself but I have seen that it's not trivial.

You down with OPP?

I've heard the electric company charges us by the unit I think,

Are you still happy with it ? I'm planning to get one due to its neatness!

@iforce2d

8 жыл бұрын

yup, it's working fine :)

@jdgindustries2734

7 жыл бұрын

Still good? I'm looking at one to build an adjustable power supply for a couple machines.

@Darthgonzo

7 жыл бұрын

Still working i think ?! Dont wanna spend 30$ for a 2 Month wonder

@iforce2d

7 жыл бұрын

Yes still working.

@Darthgonzo

7 жыл бұрын

btw there is a discount ATM at banggood for this one

I was taught E=IR for Ohm's Law.

U is very common notation for voltage. Do you know what Ohms Law is? U = I * R ?

@ericrowland1851

2 жыл бұрын

Not in the UK. Never heard of it.

So, how much does it heat up?

could you use this to charge 8s lifepo4 battery? it needs 29.2v to charge .

@iforce2d

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe you could.

@nebulous962

3 жыл бұрын

@@iforce2d okay thanks :) have a nice day :)

U-In. Unit-Input? Cause everywhere there are V for voltages!

Nice video test. For about $15 more aliexpress sells a Gophert power supply with its own power supply and a case. No including shipping. I would probably want that if I were to splurge on a this type of thing. It does not have that confusing u designation for voltage.

@rdtech9153

8 жыл бұрын

Gophert power supply , I know this , display is led display.. and it sells very expensive and it is very heavy. in fact it isn't worth the price .. you can this module .. 50v/5a , high precision and small volume.. it is very worth.. hz.aliexpress.com/store/product/RD-DP50V5A-Constant-Voltage-current-Step-down-Programmable-Power-Supply-module-buck-Voltage-converter-color-LCD/923042_32596330856.html

U set aka user setting

So helpful, thanks.

Excellent thank you.

Do you still use this device and is it still working?

@iforce2d

7 жыл бұрын

Actually it died a while ago, after I used it quite a lot for hot-wire cutting.

16:21... thug what does OPP mean.. the song?