Like always great stuff, took my 4 yr grid samples from a field that’s been notill covercrop every year lost a little on my p&k but yields have increased!

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

nice!

I really enjoy your information videos. Keep up the good work.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

The amount of soil loss due to excess rain and lately the wind has been sickening. The wind has been terrible. Large rain events are more common. I find it hard to believe anyone can look at a field that is blowing around or washing out and think “eh, maybe next year it wont happen.” Things need to change…

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Lot of farmers don't think they have erosion even when they have gulleys heading to the tile inlet

@mn-1381

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 and that is concerning.

I really enjoy your videos and I am getting really interested in minimum till or strip tillage. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by!

Thanks. lot of good knowledge you give

If you are in a drought it can have an effect on the potassium results on a soil test as well be interested to see what the results looked like after moisture comes

I know some limited, or smarter tilling farms who use chemicals precisely, who are doing a great job. The next step is to get more cover crops. Most guys get the concept. It’s a matter of getting them to put a seeder on the VT, and terminating it when putting finishing touches on before planting.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Yes good point!

Great information. I forwarded it to a couple friends

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, let's get these conversations started!

Great information. I enjoy these videos and the ones showing your operation too. Also like the shop videos very much. I’m usually listening to them while driving or working in the shop or doing cow chores. Once in awhile I hear something you’re talking about and have to stop what I’m doing and watch it. Thank you for making them. I couldn’t do it.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Wow thank you very much for the kind words! Let's rock the boat a little this winter and have some fun! Where are you located? How are the cows doing?

@tmichael6393

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I’m located in eastern Iowa (between Waterloo and Cedar Rapids). Been involved with trucking and agriculture my whole life. Started a very small cow herd five years ago after not having any for twenty years. No crops as of now. Cows are doing good. Breeding season now for September calves. Thinking I can make fall calving work with grazing cornstalks and cover crops. They eat hay baled from waterways and such most of the summer. Its easier to get spring locker dates also. Finishing out the calves and selling sides direct has been good. I’ve got good neighbors that are getting more into strip tilling and covers. I’m blessed because they help keep an eye on things when I can’t make it home, and have also rented me fall/winter grazing.

@tmichael6393

Жыл бұрын

Sorry. I didn’t realize that I put out a whole paragraph there. Lol

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

No worries, I enjoy when you guys share your stories

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@tmichael6393 nice! I've heard many many presentations of guys having a much more success on calving out on pasture versus in a feedlot Neighbors working together is how farming is supposed to be! Good luck next fall!

Great video, keep them coming . Nichole Masters is from New Zealand I have her book , it’s time to read it again 😊

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information. They provide great info. We just need to figure out how to get it to the farm!

Good video

Good morning from central mo

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Central MO. Have you snuk up and visited Greg Judy's farm?! Got some weather this week are you supposed to get much rain ?

Great point on the soil loss, many people don't think about that. Here in Iowa just the wind can strip a lot of soil off of a field. You can see the dirt on top of the snow in ditches during the winter. That only happens with fields with tillage, with strip or no-till, the snow stays white. Who do you go to for information on fertilizer for strip till? I've been doing it since 2012 but haven't done any major change to my P and K since I started.

Again I’m forgetting what P&K stand for. The next time onelonelyfarmer is in Minnesota we gotta meet up with him, the wife and William.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

P is phosphorus and K is potassium. Remember Jr high science and the table of elements. We thought I won't be a scientist when will I ever use this

@MustangsTrainsMowers

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Outside of the box question: has anyone tried using potato’s for fertilizer since it has potassium? Might not be economically feasible?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@MustangsTrainsMowers not that I have heard of. To buy good potatoes would not be economical. If a plant had potatoe waste it would work

3 powerful watts

Fantastic video Jon trying to do better here with reducing fertiliser better use of cattle manure and clovers etc lots to learn and experiment.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Culture practice I think you guys are way ahead of me and looking at the pictures of your soil I don't know if the Earth will exist long enough for our soil to get there

Good Morning from Manitoba. Your headed down the right road there Jon!!

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Good morning! I hope so. Along with the normal starting a farm up we have the financial challenges of learning soil Health. If we can hang on for a couple years we might be onto something?!

@todddaniels9488

Жыл бұрын

Yes it really takes generations, learning the wins and losses from our fathers and grandfathers. I like the analogy of the thickness of the piece of paper, most guys just don’t understand that. We bale graze 30-40 bales per acre on our tame pastures. I’ve heard it said, that builds as much topsoil as Mother Nature can do in 100 years. I’m not sure about that, but the results are amazing the following years.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Good thought on building topsoil. At the top of the hill we can be as low as a half a percent of organic matter. So if we're looking at pounds of material to the acre to increase organic matter it does not take very many Bales to the acre to actually add organic matter percentage wise. Now if you went west of me into the rich part of Minnesota where they have 10 times the organic matter well that's 10 times the amount of material you'd have to add to the acre to move the needle at all

@todddaniels9488

Жыл бұрын

Yes interesting I hadn’t thought of percentages of different soils. Looking forward to more of your videos and thoughts

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@todddaniels9488 you guys got to keep responding with your experiences!

I wonder what Al Gore thought about the late spring snow storms that Minnesota was getting in 13 and 14? I rent pole barn storage on an old farm near Stillwater Mn. A lawn service in Saint Paul used to store their truck snow plows there in the summer, usually dropped off in April. April 2014 they dropped off the blades. The May snow storm hit us and they had to come and load them up again and put back on their trucks to plow snow again. The plows didn’t return again for a couple of weeks. The next year they waited until later in the spring to drop them off.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

That's when they go to "climate change" and not global warming.

@MustangsTrainsMowers

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Al Gore is full of hot air.

So many of the roadblocks to farming start with an expert who explains to you that it will never work. Maybe that is the plan. Potassium no doubt is what got my soil from poor to pretty good and it took a lot. Nitrogen is where I'm heading next. I've built about 1% OM since going to corn on corn no till, so with about 3.5% now I'm going to be doing more low N trials and see how much ooopm that OM give me.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Keep going it will be neat in 10 years!!

1197AM is a good number here. 1359AM is better. Have you tried applying banded either infurrow or 2x2 phosphorus for a yield response? I’m not sure that broadcast P is a great way to handle things either but in my soils banded P has a profitable advantage on corn. Still want to test this on beans. Also I think applying potassium is still important..I wouldn’t go without it and I feel broadcast K is ok. I enjoy these videos we can’t learn together if no one talks about it.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

With the strip till I did a bunch of different fertility rates of a blend to see if the soybeans would give any response. There was pretty much no response until we got to the corn fertilizer. Made like a 10 bushel difference but the bushel hardly paid for the fertilizer I would agree that broadcast potassium for maintenance could work. On some other agricultural platforms when guys are complaining about the price of fertilizer I asked why not do your own testing to see how much you could reduce your input dollars or Farm in a manner that makes you less dependent upon the co-op. I thought that was a great question or conversation starter but instead it just got me called lots of names and swore at. LOL

Great video. As a farmer located in WNY who just started using conservation farming practices 5 years ago on a smaller scale, like yourself, I found it very informative. The “village idiot” guy you speak of at least need to have an open mind to this type of farming. There’s a few guys in our area who are still moldboard plowing! And to hinge off your point, all winter the snow is brown surrounding their fields….what do they think THAT is?! For us with it just being my father and me farming together, it came down to a labor issue. You’d finish the big harvest push all fall then have to grind through the mud, snow and rain to turn the soil over! 🤦🏼‍♂️…then the following spring run the digger over, pick rock, and more x than not you’d talk yourself into hitting it light again ahead of the planter. Labor $ labor $ and soil all blowing off in the wind! You and the rest of us I believe are on the right track! Look fwd to more videos on this…& I liked your Rush reference! Boy do I miss him.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear it! Your spot on come home from work in the fall to due tillage work and it's actually causing some stress because it's time away from home and money going out. Then in the spring take time off of work to do the tillage so you can plant on the weekend You're the first person to comment on that! I was in Iowa speaking and a lot of people came up to say hi and everyone says they chuckle at my one-liners or my references but very rarely do people comment on them.

I like this style video. what is next for this field? will you still apply potash with strip tiller?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Pasture/ hay for a few years than corn than wheat and back to hay/pasture, I would like to figure out how to do that kind of rotation

👍

Good morning from western N.Y

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by! Are you ready for the storm this week?

@andymullen1752

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 We're ready for some snow. Thanks for the fresh eye on an old practice.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

What's old is new again! Somehow every generation before us did I without the coop.

Great video Jon. I had to jump up and grab the latest soil tests. I don't quite understand some of the things I am seeing. I am strictly growing forages and my topsoil is thin but pretty good in organic matter. In a dry year nothing seems to help, this summer we had adequate to excess moisture here and everything just exploded. Even the one cutting a year grass fields that have been in sod for 40 or more years. I haven't been experimenting for long enough to see much in the way of patterns yet.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

You know I've had this conversation with other forage farmers and it is very difficult to really build soil health in Hay rotations unless you're willing to bring in some annual rotations. But that's difficult to do as well

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you had a good year!

@farawayfarm2520

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I figure 3 years in hay. Grass legume mix. Till it after the last hay cutting Put it in rye for the winter. Make rye baleage. Follow rye with Sorghum Sudan or annual of some type. Do the same thing the second year but fall seed back to mixed hay. Lots of manure.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@farawayfarm2520 that sounds good! Is it working?!

@farawayfarm2520

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 So far. East field in second winter of rye. West field seeded back to hay this fall. Only did one year rye followed by Sorghum on that one to get rotation going. Hay stand looked decent up to snow.

John can I ask what your view is on a grass only farm...where grass is cut several times over year..cover crop is not possible or is it ?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the anchors I took over our from old grass fields. They are far from very healthy soil. If I was in that situation I would get a good quality no till drill and I would rotate the crop. So I would put in an alfalfa grass mix and after a number of years maybe do a couple years of an annual clover sorghum-sudan mix

@brendanhough289

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 thanks

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

A lot of that old grassland that I put into row crop it wasn't compacted soil but at the same time it had very poor water infiltration and had zero soil structure.

@brendanhough289

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 yes the top inch of grassland soil tends to get very rich with a thick root mass and is more prone to acting like a pan there instead of at 8 inches...I wonder is there anything that could be stitched in like a temporary deep rooted grass at half rate that would go deeper and bring up nutrients from below

I just stumbled onto your channel and I have some questions... what cover crops do you sow? How do you treat the cover crops in the spring before you plant corn/beans/whatever? Do you mow them off, burn them down, other?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Well thank you very much for sticking around! I like to use cover crops like a sprayer mix. Oats are my water or Carrier and then the buckwheat area vet tillage radish annual rye grass are the things that you only add a little tiny bit of to the acre. When I use a simple mix like that there is no dealing with it in the spring because it's dead. If we do a pre-emerge herbicide program anything that might have lived through winter is dead. We're going to have a lot of videos on this this winter. Now I'm trying to figure out how to bring the small grain back in the rotation so I can do more of a legume perennial cover crop to produce more nitrogen and build soil. Have the potential to be hay in the spring before corn

@Boodlemania

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 We are a cow calf operation and I've just started growing our own corn. I've been doing haylage for years and have had good luck with it. My plan is to grow wheat or triticale over winter and then no-till corn into the remaining sod. I'm wondering if I could incorporate some tillage radish etc into my over-winter crop to get a little more benefit out of it.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@Boodlemania depends what you want them to do, but a neighbor did a field of them and if nothing else made great feed behind silage.

@Boodlemania

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I'm wanting them to help build soil fertility.

Not to hard to track progression when everything is documented. If something doesn’t work you try to figure out why. Good video Jon.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. So many times people try something different and the result isn't the same as what they were doing. That means it doesn't work to them vs investigating why it didn't work

I have a small farm in forest lake MN, I am currently trying to build my soil structure, do you ever do farm tours? I would love to come talk with you!

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

It would be fun to come down for a visit. In the fall we host a farm day up here. Are you pasture with horses or what crop rotation are you?

@johnnykoalska8569

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I raise grass fed black angus and I bought my first combine last weekend in hopes of trying some cash crops. I have cover crops planted in all my fields at the moment. The plan is to plant more cover crops this summer and plow them all in due to the farmer that completely destroyed the soil previously.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

What did you get for a combine? Exciting times!

@johnnykoalska8569

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 John Deere 7720, it’s a little rough. But I came with a corn head and 25” flex head. We are very excited!

@johnnykoalska8569

Жыл бұрын

If you are ever willing to come check it out I would love to have you down!

Good morning from northwestern NC.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Are you getting storms this week?

On the field you spoke of from 2014 to 2022 did your organic matter change?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Apparently yes. Avg of 2014 was 1.97 and 2022 was 2.2. Not much but it's something.

Why don't you say what the test actually say in ppm? When picking up new ground I really only want to see the pH and organic matter numbers. Only time I broadcast phos is on alfalfa and it very low rates. I guess the corn does get a little from the mess starter. All my potash needs are blended in the starter on the planter. It takes more time with dry on the planter but pays really well. Can grow nicer crop on poorer ground with 1/3 of rate vs broadcasting. I have been messing around with tillage the last couple years and every time the disk chisel gains 30 to 35 bpa. What would you recommend for tillage? Corn on corn with teff grass every 2 to 3 years. Can plant cover on teff acres for the first year corn but as you know not much of a chance for covers on corn on corn?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

I said that the P was 29.1 in 14 and 29.4 in 2022. If a chisel plow pass gained 35 bushel I would do 2 more passes for an extra 70 bushel ! Anytime we put a yield response to something like tillage or fungicide or anything like that I question why we got a response. Let's not get ahead of video topics..

You ever looked into bio sure grow, by nature’s formula they have videos on KZread

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

I Have not. I will check it out

I don't think you are wrong. In fact here in canada its already started. Our government decided to across the board tell the farmers they need to reduce their fert program by 30%. Now a lot of discussion could be had about wether thats a malicious move by the government or not but honestly. they got the balls to try it from somewhere. And the general public is siding with them. that regulation will make the corn crop not viable for me to feed my cattle. I already put down a fraction of most people and let the cattle cycle the vast majority of the nutrients. but thankfully I got something in the works that will make corn for cattle feed highly inefficient and far more expensive and No fertilizer applied ever again which should make for far healthier soils.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Wow. We can argue both sides of the point. We need to fertilizer to grow the crop to quote unquote feed the world. But at the same time we can now see that we can produce some really good corn or soybeans or wheat or barley whatever the crop is with a lot less of the commercial fertilizer. It just hasn't hit mainstream farming yet to be accepted.

@valleyviewacres9120

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Oh I agree fully! farmers are a tuff lot to win over they need to see it to believe it and even then they are often to hesitant to try it. It often takes a ordeal where it becomes a Hail Mary situation where they have to either change or go bankrupt.

@stevenyungblut7552

Жыл бұрын

Technically they haven’t asked us to reduce fertilizer usage by 30% but rather reduce fertilizer emissions by 30% big difference. Not intending to start an argument. I think they are really trying to steer farmers towards more efficient fertilizer use through more appropriate placement like strip till banding or planter placed nitrogen etc.

@valleyviewacres9120

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenyungblut7552 this is coming from the government that has Said "we re not after hunting rifles...., than proceeds tp put an amendment into C 21 that does just that. that government can not be trusted. either way. they think they can actually do it. because people have gave them the support. I would fully expect the current government to squash C 21 because of the absolute chaos its causing.. I don't expect that with this fertilizer deal because too many people think that its an achievable target. for most I don't think it is.

You plant 1197 that far north ??

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

I did. It was surprisingly a very good rock star up here that nobody else planted it. Pioneer used to have 103 days it was like a v-53 or some number like that we used to plant it for silage and one year we had a couple little fields that we used it for grain and it was like 30 bushels better than anything in the test plot

Thanks for making me feel older

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

I was going to make a reference about the great legs that Dad show had. Lol

@warrenpost1502

Жыл бұрын

I remember when Hee Haw first came on

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

@@warrenpost1502 uh oh! Now your showing your age! I was going to make a reference about the great legs on the ladies on that show. Lol

@warrenpost1502

Жыл бұрын

Jr samples would make a better president than what we have now

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Ha! "Need a car call me at 652.. no wait 625..." it had to be a lot of fun making that show!

You started to talk about clay and what effect you saw. This area has a lot of clay and it seems like everyone this fall ran a deep ripper though there fields. And if not a deep ripper then it was recommended to chisel plow this fall. It is like everyone changed their minds about no-till this fall.

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

I can imagine. True no till can be very challenging especially when we are conventional thinking. Thats why I like strip till/ no till/ minimum till. There is no need for aggressive primary tillage but some ground you can't just switch to pure no till. Corn roots have been the best thing to open our clay subsoil up.

Hee haw

Great points on unlocking /Mining what's already in the soil Jon ! We have mostly rolling ridge ground on the farm where erosion is a big issue . It has not seen a plow or ripper in over 40 years and producing great . Buddy Kenny "No-Tilling Corn kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6d7sMN6aKrHd5s.html I got a big laugh at 0:15 as I grew up in the 1970's / 80's and Hee Haw was the best for all ages ! 👍

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Ha good video! If I go viral ask me for a shout out! 40 years nice !

@cranerigging3604

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Thank you ! I was about 12 years old when Grand Dad quit plowing so I never got to do any on our farm as he went to the no-till system . Today it's what I would call minimum till as about every other year it gets a finish tool pulled over it

How about both?

@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754

Жыл бұрын

Both of what

@TheBnbonthebeach

Жыл бұрын

@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 both styles of video or actually, I like when you’re farming, I like when you’re explaining and I like when you’re working in the shop or on equipment enjoy your videos