I have the Milwaukee cordless framing nailer, and granted I dont work with it day in and day out. It suits me just fine. Even though its approximately 35% heavier than some of your lightest framing nailers out there. The weight sacrifice is worth it to me not having to drag around a hose, air compressor, and possibly a generator if your in a remote area. Works great for building mtb ramps in the middle of the woods too!🤙

@wildkat16

6 ай бұрын

Do you have the 21 or 30 degree?

@johnjaymesgreatadventures4503

6 ай бұрын

@@wildkat16 I have the 30°

@cybernessful

6 ай бұрын

Paslode

@tricktrick8794

5 ай бұрын

Hi does it have to have nails in it to shoot

@johnjaymesgreatadventures4503

5 ай бұрын

@tricktrick8794 why certainly! It sure does!

I bought one to put down new runner boards on the bridge on my driveway. Didn't want to drag my generator and air compressor about a quarter mile down my driveway to use my Dewalt coil nailer. I put in 650-700 nails, and had three that were a little proud. I'm not a framer and won't be using all day long in most cases. It will be great for me and my brother will love using it at his off grid cabin. However, I definitely see your point, and appreciate the video. 😉

@ProxyFinal

2 жыл бұрын

Even for a DIY or homeowner, this nailer is just overkill in the weight department. I am highly considering on the metabo.

@romeoneverdies

Жыл бұрын

@@ProxyFinal there is a video with more exaustive comparison of the two. (metabo vs milwaukee)

Mine lays around for inspectors.....they love how fast you can add a nail without pulling the hose around the building.

nice info!, 1st time seeing a coil framing gun lol after 18 years in framing, I never stop to learn new things, thanks for sharing.

I’ve bought one and love it, the weight doesn’t bother me! I will say that I’m not a framer and in the uk we build differently to the us, mainly brick and mortar with internal stud work so it’s not getting used all day, everyday for 1000’s of nails! If i was a framer I wouldn’t go near it. However if you mainly do quick jobs in multiple locations it’s brilliant! No need to drag a compressor and hoses around and setting them up for a 5 min job. In the UK we use paslode a lot and the weight is worth the penalty to not deal with the noise the paslode puts out

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

The Milwaukee sure is fast too. Hope you're safe in the UK.

Great video, I appreciate your insight. I just ordered the Milwaukee framing nailer for punch list tasks. I think it will be an attic & crawls pace work horse. No gas & no maintenance like the Paslode. Also, there’s a lot less noise than the Paslode framer. I haven’t used either of the High pressure nailers. (So, I have no comment on those guns.) All of my pneumatics are old school Hitachi. Cheers!

I bought the Metabo HTP last year. Great gun! I wish it would hold two sticks of nails like the Milwaukee does. I also still shoot with my Hitachi gas nail gun, lighter weight when setting trusses.

@Jimmy_Cavallo

2 жыл бұрын

💥💥 I have no clue how anyone has anything good to say about the Metabo 21° nailer piece of junk. I’m a home renovator of craftsman level quality and I have some tools that are 20-30 years old that still work. My Milwaukee sawzall was the first pro tool that I bought in 1986 and it still works. I bought one of these on Saturday, took it into my backyard for a test drive and it would not shoot in single fire mode. Ran out to another Lowe’s for a second one and it did the same thing. Monday night (last night) I went to yet another Lowe’s for a third try. That one only shot single fire in the bump fire mode and out of 20 fires only 4 nails came out. Eventually I smelled something burning and it would not shoot any more nails. The switches are so tiny and super hard to get to buried into the handle and your finger covers over each switch and blocks you seeing what’s going on. The trigger safety is recessed so deep that you can only operate it with your fingernail. The battery does not have any lights to indicate how much charge is left. I just brought all three back for a $1212 refund to my credit card. Best of luck to anyone that gets one to work and expect to send it in once a year to have the internally charged air tank to be refilled. I wonder how much that will cost.??!?? BTW.. I handle tools like a true seasoned professional being that I’ve owned my own business for 35+ years. Stay healthy, everyone. 🤟🏼

I built my house with it. Way more efficient than pneumatic, roughly 700 nails on a battery, never jammed once, cleaned and maintained it every so often. They sell extended mags. I just used the stock one. Shot 1,000 ring shanks in roughly 2 hours. I would definitely recommend the nailer. Does not balance well so I do agree with that. Maintenance free?? Not sure about that yet. But it’s a good selling point I guess. Thanks for the video

@wooge3199

10 ай бұрын

Good deal....but it's never ...ever gonna be more efficient 4 real framing...I have it...the metabo...the trim guns...and prob 50 air guns.....efficient is air period

Hi, I see your point. I still use my Hitachi air framing gun when framing big projects. Yes, i still have to pull out a air compressor and hose but that ok it's a big job so not to worry. I see using the cordless framing gun for smaller or medium size project. Like you mention, this way you're not dealing with the weight for so long. What no one is showing is how this cordless gun performs when it's in high heat weather or if rain hits it. The air gun seams like it can handle all weather issues. Thanks for the video

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

great points. I'm giving mine away or I'd show it in the rain. Since it didn't come out until late spring, we'll see how it does in the cold

Great video mate im in framing aswel we done have hose over here so mostly paslode or dewalt and it's nearly twice as heavy as the paslode and as you said it's hard to be using it over head 👍

I think the gun is perfect for pick up work, small / medium size, every here and there usage, but for production work like yourself , the weight of the gun is for sure impractical

The A2 coil nailer is a dream! I even picked up an A2 plastic stick nailer but they don't even sell nails for it around here. There is just something about the way that gun fires that I love! Went with the Paslode XP for cordless. It's not nearly as fast but I think it's okay!

I'm right with you. I don't do much framing, so the cost for the cordless alone was too much for me to justify the purchase. I have a 21° rigid framing nailer, it'll shoot 8 nails per second, it has jammed a few times when I'm sheeting a roof, but it basically clears itself up so no worries. I like the cordless and could see it coming in handy at times, I just couldn't see using it all day everyday. A buddy has one and I used it when rebuilding an old box gutter, man it is nice to just grab that gun and go on small projects.

I have the Milwaukee framing nailer. The majority of its use is setting trusses where I dont want a hose touching up against my Mason line or webbing the trusses.Even though I shed a bit of weight by using the high output 3.0 smaller battery it is still heavy. Although they've taken a step forward by shedding the airline and using the nitrogen spring system its too bad they haven't addressed the weight issue.

Considering getting one to nail purlins down for metal roofing. I hate dragging a hose all over a roof

The Milwaukee framer is good for quick small jobs it saves the time on pulling out the air compressor and it is strong. He does have a point on the heaviness. I personally rate it 8/10 would be a 10 but it’s heavy

I'm still tied on cordless vs hose. I've found the m18 nailer and metabohpt cordless both have a thermal shut down that kills the nailer when it senses the air housing is heating up. Great input in hose vs weight of cordless. People don't understand the long-term effects of heavy overhead and wrist fatigue.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

eventually they will though 😁

@chrishayes5755

2 жыл бұрын

"People don't understand the long-term effects of heavy overhead and wrist fatigue.".. You get swole AF?

@NickOvchinnikov

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, no. You get tendonitis. You're not doing reps and resting. You're lugging this thing around all day

I think the airless nailers are good for this one thing. I have several situations where I work out where power isn't enough to run my compressor.. Or... small framing projects where running the extra tools doesn't justify itself. But for what you're doing, you're framing new homes. You need something lightweight, well balanced and will get the job done. For framing, I use the Pneumatic Ps350 Paslode framer nailer, it's great for me. I wouldn't be opposed to trying the coil framing nailers though if Paslode has one.

I like your statement about putting the body first. I prefer using a Paslode, I wish Paslode had a gas nailer that took big nails in the coil format. Constantly reloading sucks.

Great information!!! I have the Dewalt hoseless framer.. sure wish someone would have done a review on it before I bought it. What a pile of junk!!! Would not set nails either. Keep up the good work!!

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

I reviewed the gen 1 DeWalt for www.jlconline.com and liked it but it didn't last for us

Thank for taking the time! That helped me a lot! Did you weigh the dewalt?

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't. I have the Gen 1 model and haven't used it in a couple of years. I'll find it and weigh it for you 👍

I used the Milwaukee framing nailer this past summer framing an addition on a cabin with a lot of overhead work. I blew both of my shoulders out two weeks prior to dry in. Was in a lot of pain finishing the project. Hoseless has its place but I have switched to pneumatic nailers they are a lot lighter and put a lot less strain on my body. If I go hoseless again I will run a paslode.

Not boring mate . Brill video . Thank you .

Well done, I own a Milwaukee and I only use it for stuff around my house or small remodels where time offsets weight and like you pointed out, I’m not going all say nailing on a crew, I hope no one is really using it all day framing thinking that that are going to be productive

@johnamlin5681

3 жыл бұрын

Why isn't it productive? I'm just curious. For me it seems much more productive to use that then to drag around a heavy air compressor, generator, hoses, fitings, oil etc. What about the cordless guns do you think is inferior. I'm looking to buy that Milwaukee and would love some insight

Well for the weekend warrior, if im going to invest in a nailer paslode seems like like a solid bet.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

I keep going back to the Paslode. They've been around the longest too.

I like my Milwaukee M18 nailers I have 3 on each truck they work great and none of my guys have complained about any of them

I bought the cordless Milwaukee framing nailer thinking it would be an upgrade from my DeWalt cordless framing nailer. In the beginning it was because it had no problem driving nails into engineered lumber as well as just regular lumber. I haven’t even completed building my first house with the Milwaukee nailer and it has already stopped driving the nails completely. I’ve had my Dewalt nailer for six or seven years and built several houses with it without any problem. I would recommend the Dewalt framing nailer over the Milwaukee one for the longevity of the gun.

@rowankeltizar5961

2 ай бұрын

Huh. I would contact Milwaukee about their warranty in that case. May be a faulty gun or just need maintenance.

I wonder if how the weight is distributed makes as much of a difference as how much the nailer weighs on whole. I have a Ridgid framing nailer and a Bostitch Metal Connector nailer that are roughly the same weight... but wow, does the Bostitch feel heavier! In fact, if I didn't know that they were the same weight, I might go as far as thinking that the Ridgid was half as many pounds. The only explanation I can come up with is that the Bostitch just has all of its weight much more concentrated and much higher than the Ridgid and that's what is getting me.

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

you are exactly right. Balance is key. That big Hitachi I mentioned in the video is very well balanced and it makes that gun much easier to use

I brought the Milwaukee framing nailer a few weeks ago, and it’s heavy and no that well balanced. Your right, you have to think about the long term affects on you body if your using it on the daily

@johnargumaniz9179

3 жыл бұрын

#gettoughbro stop being a pussy and complaining about a heavy tool. It makes you stronger 💪🏼

@unSTEVOED

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnargumaniz9179 No it doesn't, it wears your joints etc out faster if your doing it for the long haul - Like most of us are. Why do you think most tradies bodies are broken by the time they are 50

@johnargumaniz9179

3 жыл бұрын

@@unSTEVOED man I picked one up at Home Depot the other day and those things are insanely heavy.

@kllgrogto5838

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnargumaniz9179 you beat me to it, the only disadvantage is that your right arm will be stronger than the left 😂

That Milwaukee nailer is really awesome for burying 3 1/4" nails in LVL or LSL. Nothing else we've found has the power for that. Admittedly we haven't tried the high pressure stuff yet tho. One downside you didn't mention is they overheat and quit for a while if you use them very steady for too long. Takes a while tho. It's not an everyday problem by any stretch.

@mechanicalman1068

Жыл бұрын

I have the Max high pressure and it will sink a 3 1/2 x .148 into LVL no problem at all, and the pressure isn’t anywhere near the upper limit. The only drawback I’ve found is that .148 is the maximum diameter nail, which is a bit of a bummer because every once in a while I have a spec for 3 1/2 x .162 for stitching LVL beams. It would definitely have the power, it for some reason it maxes out at .148. For that I use an old Hitachi NR90 that will shoot those big spikes, and it definitely will shoot them in to LVL. I’ve also had that Makita stick nailer he has there. It will reliably sink nails in LVL, as will the old Hitachi coil nailer he has there.

I got the Milwaukee nailer and I can say it’s good for small jobs! The weight of the nailer compromises the speed and it makes sure your arm will feel the weight! I’d rather pull a hose behind me and nail with a pneumatic nailer!

@jeffshackleford3152

Жыл бұрын

I have always used gas Hitachi ( paslode) nailers personally.

Seems like the main and only complaint about this Milwaukee gun is the weight. Knowing Milwaukee I’m pretty sure they’re already working on a solution to remedy this issue. Still planning on buying one though.

just got the gun to build a fence that would have otherwise been impossible with a pneumatic nailer, and it is SO HEAVY... so heavy... useful as heck, but very heavy

Thanks alot for saving my arm...before I go for the Milwaukee nailer.

Great video. I was thinking in getting one, to replace my Hitachi NR90, many thanks...

Great video

Preach

Spot on thanks Tim bang on brother

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@adamd7078

3 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeFramers do you have to use a different compressor for high pressure nailers?

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamd7078 yep www.maxusacorp.com/nailers_compressors/products/akhl1260ex/

@adamd7078

3 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeFramers thanks for replying back! Appreciate it. I’m gonna look into

How long does the battery last when you're Is framing walls

Everything you say is absolutely correct, but if you have to use more than one strip of nails, for a small fix or something, then you shouldn't be using the cordless. Say a storm comes through and takes out select parts of your privacy fence, I would wager to bet the cordless will save you at least 35% of your work of getting the equipment set up for the pneumatic. It's a cool specialty tool, and probably best served a handyman doing repairs.

For small and medium projects there's no beating these guns, though for serial framing in one spot, I think the air gun wins out. Just pump some iron and eat your spinach and then the extra weight is well worth losing the tether.

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you, but choose the Paslode gun because its much lighter. I lifted a lot of weights when I was younger, now I'm too old to put this much stress on my wrists. Trust me, when you get to 43 after a life in the trades, you'll start lightening up your tools.

@mechanicalman1068

Жыл бұрын

Dude, I’m 53. I’m pretty much fine, some wrist and shoulder issues if I go too hard, but for the most part I leave that to the younger guys and do the more thinky stuff. I’m a remodeling GC though, so I do more finish than framing: we can frame an addition in a few days but the high end finish work keeps me busy for a weeks or more on a whole house job. I do plenty of structural upgrades and modifications being in earthquake country. And lots of sheathing and siding replacement on 100 year old homes. Anyway, take care of you’re body and it will take care of you. Most of the men in my family were in the trades and I saw them all twisted and broken as they aged. I took that lesson and was more careful.

Couldn’t agree more Tim you keep hearing people saying the weight isn’t an issue! Well maybe for a handyman or someone that’s not using it day in day out. The impact on your joints and fatigue over the day are a massive factor for us framers. What’s the point of a product that’s supposed to be portable and free of a hose if it’s more inhibiting than the product it’s supposed to be replacing. when the hitachi was already said to be to heavy how can bring out a product that’s even heavier. I have the hitachi and have had nothing but issues with it think I’ll be sticking with pneumatic and my paslodes

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

I am very careful as I age

I was a joist lead for a few years on a production crew… would love to see how long that Milwaukee lasts using the back of it as by joist hammer lol

Mine does .148 just fine. Maybe it's only in the 21 degree

I personally love my milwaukee tools but for doing small framing like this gun would be good for, I'll just use my hammer. If I'm framing up something to where I want a nailer, I'll grab my Hitachi gun and compressor. To me its just not practical for someone who is framing everyday. I have the 18 gauge brad nailer and a 15 gauge and both of those are great because typically if youre putting in brads, you arent putting in that many all that fast so to be able to just grab a battery gun is so nice!

Where did you buy those double sided hooks on the coil nailers??

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Mario, I have them custom made.

FYI: Milwaukee makes an extended magazine nail holder for both the 21 degree and 30 degree framing models.

Also it malfunctions more than any other nailer I have used….I framed a whole house with one last week. Almost killed my wrist and tested my patience with half driven nails and bending them over, not to mention having to reload so frequently with the one stick. Thanks I couldn’t agree more. There is a place where that nailer could be useful but it would never be my first choice to frame with.

I can see the logic coming from a production framer ..I however i do remodeling jobs and in many cases I have light framing and or light trim work to do and it's easier to pull out a cordless nailer rather then roll out a compressor ,& hose to do job ...

maybe for boxing up for a concrete slab, saves on the pasload gas with the nails. in cost, dunno

My compressor is heavy, and hose is always a tangled mess. I rarely use a framing nailer and when I do it's not for very long.

Which one is your favorite? I've got a Paslode F350 Powermaster Plus.

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite guns are the Max high pressure guns. If I was shooting standard pressure guns I'd go with Paslode. That is what I learned on way back in junior high school :-)

You should be plywooding your walls perpendicular to the studs. Nothing beats NR83A Hitach, now metabo. I'd never give them up. Shoots 3's and 2 and 3/8. You can frame and sheet with it. You definitely have to load it more when sheeting, but its one gun to worry about. Its light, and when it breaks, you buy another and keep it for parts. Ive got 8 or 10 laying around, but I don't have 32 different guns when one will do. Simplicity is always the best i framing. Cordless gun is ok if you must go back to a job for a quick punch list or someone wants their closet moved. Trim guns are a different story. I have both, and always go for the cordless trim guns.

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

Sheathing doesn't need to be applied perpendicular on studs. You can read this article and check the links www.awesomeframers.com/blog/vertical-or-horizontal-sheathing-which-is-right It is very common to think that it must be applied to perpendicular to the studs, but check out the articles from www.apawood.org for information on sheathing walls and lateral loading.

@1974jrod

3 жыл бұрын

@Louis Lewis different strokes for different folks. Considering I've laid near 10 thousand sheets of osb and ply, there is are very good reasons why I wont ever stand sheets vertically on a wall. If you look on the back of OSB, it shows you the strength axis of the sheet too. No doubt, plywood laid horizontally is far superior than vertically. I bet this guy doesn't lay his floor and roof sheeting that way, and that in and of itself is a good reason not to on the walls as well.

You didn't mention the ages on all of those pnumatic guns. Some are old. Some are very old. They still work. How much life are you goung to get out of those batteries? What is it going to cost when you need to replace them? Great for an odd task or punch out. For everyday use, give me air!

Do a review of all the cordless nail guns !

i saw these guns on my brothers site yesterday G.C. picked up a couple of them and these guys are in good shape all have a minimum of 15yrs exp. W most of them well over 20 yrs and ALL Athe Carpenters said basically what awesome framers said it was TOTALLY IMPRACTICAL. HEAVY BULKY AND A TOOL YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK WITH AT ALL. 1 guy said it feels like you are carrying a compressor. I picked the damn thing up myself definitely the heaviest and bulky most uncomfortable framer / tool i ever felt. I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT RECOMMENDED THIS TOOL

Seemed like you had to go back and finish driving a lot of those nails by hand. I don’t do that much framing but the only time I remember having to do that was putting together some beams in place made from two or three LVLs and that time every single nail was left sticking out..

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, I do that to make sure the top plates are tight 👍

Seems to me like the gas on the paslode is worth it for the weight savings if horseless is a huge priority.

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

I agree and keep going back to Paslode

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

@Louis Lewis I don't consider the gas to be a "waste". It is a consumable like recip blades. These guns to me aren't a full time gun, but rather specialized. They are great for blocking rafter/trusses or climbing around a crawlspace or attic. Just my thoughts, here in the US the gas isn't too bad, but I understand it is very expensive in Canada.

Great vid, I use the Milwaukee for roofing and it just fine, But then again I am a strong person.

Milwaukees battery finish/brad nailers are definitely justified but the framing nailer definitely isn’t if it’s heavier than a collated framing nailer… their battery roofing nailer seems nice tho

The mikwaulkee and metabo blisters

I got one of these at the beginning of '21 and by Sept I had to go to the doctor because of my elbow. He said I had, "tennis elbow". But when I called it "nail gun elbow" he agreed with that too. Not to mention the weight of having to have a hammer in your other hand to hand finish drive over 50% of the damn nails. And I'm only talking about ring shank 2 3/8" nails. Not to mention all the nails that barely go in 1/4" because I didn't hold the damn gun at the "proper" angle before firing it; all these nails have to be pulled and the hole sealed if it's in sheathing. Note that I mainly got the damn thing for tacking sheathing on the vertical to get it up faster, then going back over with my pneumatic for the bulk of the nails to finish it off. But like I said, I'm having to hand finish drive more than half of the nails I fire so I'm sure it works out that it's taking longer actually. After all that, I bet it's no surprise that I think this Milwaukee cordless gun is probably the most worthless tool I have at this point. Go figure...

@davidbuck9977

2 жыл бұрын

For one there is something wrong with your gun if it isn't driving nails all the way. And for 2 tennis elbow is caused by repetitive motions more than just weight, Tennis elbow is a common injury for people that play the violin, and they are just moving a bow that weighs 2 ounces back and forth. Tennis elbow was a huge problem with old school framers from swinging a hammer which is why we use nail guns today. So if your gun isn't driving the nails all the way and you are using a hammer to finish the job, the tennis elbow is most likely from swinging the hammer, getting the gun fixed solves all your problems.

out of all the guns you have, would you use the heaviest gun to work overhead? i would imagine that you have all those guns to serve various purposes as to get you through the day...so, that being said, i wouldn’t imagine you’d carry one gun around all day being that you have many...

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

I see your point. My point with the video it so just show the gun and point out the good and the bad. Not everyone gets to review tools like I do, so I was making that point more for those who are choosing a hoseless gun.

@pharaohacura3618

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimUhler1977 i totally get it and i respect your input...thanks for clearing that up for me...i guess both kind have their pros & cons...thanks for the reply

great video, i know it it is older but still helpful to me. Probably have already tweaked or become aware but the background music in this video did not add much, actually competed with you talking, could probably knock the background music back a notch or two in volume and improve your audio quality and effectiveness of your message. Thanks again for your content, thumbs up!

I do a lot of work on scaffolds and roofs. Dragging long lengths of hose around becomes quite a chore. Not really the weight, but the hose getting snagged up on something and having to constantly flick the gun to free it is a pain in the butt. Would cordless replace my corded air nailers, no, but there are days i could finish a job with a cordless before i could even get my compressor and hoses set up.

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

great points, but in those instances I'd use a Paslode gas nailer at 7lbs vs 12lbs

@huejanus5505

3 жыл бұрын

I use a decades old Bostich coil nailer that i could use for a boat anchor, rather have the weight than the gas.

How much does your air compressor weigh?

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

51lbs

It is a great cordless nailers. I'm not a contractor that is going for speed. I am a home owner who wants consistent quality gun, to do quality work. The others I'm sure are great. But no air compressor needed and the portable matters more for me.

I like the video but one thing you're completely forgetting about is adding the 'drag' weight of your pneumatic hose. Raising a nailer overhead with five or six feet of hose pulling down would definitely add more weight. Also you have to think of how many times you're on a ladder with the hose and you always have to be cognizant of your slack so you can maneuver the framing nailer into the perfect position. Heck a lot of the times I'm using my other hand to hold the framing hose so it's not tugging on the gun. That goes bye bye with the M18

@AwesomeFramers

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I addressed that. My bad. IRL there really isn't drag weight with the light hoses we use today.

With all these framers/nailing guns that you have displayed here you should know much about nails. I want to get nails for my brand new Milwaukee framer/nailing gun and I don't want to buy the wrong nails. On the box of a nail if 21 degrees 3 by 0.120 or 3 by 0.131 or 3 by 0.113 is written, I know that the 21 degrees is the angle of the framer magazine and 3 is the length of the nail but what does these fraction numbers represent, could it be the thickness of these nails, if they are which one is the thickest out of the three and if not what exactly does these numbers represent. Finally which of these nails is my best bet for my Milwaukee framer.

only use pasload when installing rafters

This is for the home pro, not the commercial pro. I plan on building on weekend at my ranch. No need for compressor and I can pre charge my 10+ batteries.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

It actually isn't for the home pro, it is designed for guys like me who frame all day. That's how they market it, not as just a pick up framing gun or a weekend warrior.

For me not needing it all day I couldn't justify the price. For the basement I was doing an air powered metabo was better at only $130cnd. We ended up getting the Milwaukee at work for nailing boxes to the forms on slab (electricians) and were having nothing but reliability issues with them (5 guns on one site) prior to them used the pasloade gas ones or impact driver and screws. Personally like you couldn't get over that weight. Granted only driving 2"nails but like all the forming guys I'd rather just use a hammer at that point than lug around that weight. Also being with such a large company and be provided all Milwaukee tools over the last 2 or 3 years I've been noticing all their tools have been going down in quality drastically. Most tools are usually new at the start of each job(multi year office towers and hospitals) and the tools are not lasting like they used to. At the price Milwaukee charges they should be better. Just my observation with a company that has lots of tools. Their stuff is powerful no doubt. But not reliable for commercial use. Maybe better suited to residential use

Used the Milwaukee for a house we framed last year. My elbow was screaming but the time we were done framing the house. Absolutely hated it. However, that said, it has its place. To me it is not for production framing, it’s perfect for punch list and quick work. Fast easy and it gets you in and out fast. For production, air hose all the way for the reasons you’ve stated.

The future is here They’ll get better and lighter in weight You know how it is I just bought one Will see what happened With my new toy 🤘🏼

These battery operated framer nail guns are for small jobs only, if you're doing a lot of nailing the weight will start to get to you

Get you an 8 pound Paslode dude!!

@handytbutler7380

Ай бұрын

ive got one and unless you carry an extra battery and more gas tubes you can be stuck. slow nailing as well. nothing will beat pneumatic . i have a pneumatic and a small compressor in my van with a jackery to power it and it works perfect. I use a long hose and it reaches everything i need and if its a big job i just stick it in the middle and use it.

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Sure, I didn't catch the weight of the compressors and/or the generators (Or the prices of each for that matter)? This is not an apples to apples comparison. Everything you needed for the Milwaukee you held right in your hand which cannot be said for everything else on the table. I guess the extended cartridge was not available at the time of this video. Your point about the weight is well taken however.

Can you make a video on how you build your horses those looked really cool.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

yeah man they are awesome! I have a video buried in my IG feed, but you can go here to buy the instructions jackasssawhorse.com/ We've made probably 10 pair.

The cordless framers are perfect for a guy like me that only need to nail a couple walls a month...don't really think they're meant for production work just yet

@AwesomeFramers

3 жыл бұрын

great point. They are close, but too heavy for production work. It is amazing how far they've come though.

I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great kzread.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.

Is it really better than metabo pneumatic

@AwesomeFramers

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think so

It looks like your Metabo has a much smaller battery than the Milwaukee. I’m guessing that’s a five or a six amp hour battery in the Milwaukee which is overkill. Nail guns don’t use much battery power it’s not a power tool per say. Three amp hour battery is much better than a five or a six amp hour. And probably saves you one and a half to two pounds. Your theory of having a hose connected doesn’t add much weight is correct, but you’re still tethered off, Hauling a compressor around in your truck witch your loading and unloading, and listening to it all day. And you usually need extra cords for your compressor so you can trip breakers all day while you’re listening to your compressor.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

all valid points and part of the decision process for sure.

The biggest issue I've seen using the Milwaukee nailer is that in colder weather it's basically usless in the cold

@suspicionofdeceit

Жыл бұрын

What happens? Battery dies?

You forgot to weight the air compressor though? Because as a home theater builder when you’re working in someone house lugging a air compressor Hoses and a nailer in someone’s home to frame a riser! I’ll take the Milwaukee all day Because all I’m carrying is my gun and two extra batteries

Milwaukee is a great gun. But for ground use/lvls. Air nailers for framing. Any thing off ladders the good old paslode

10’+ up on a ladder, not having a hose attached is great

i understand its heavier but the Milwaukee has better build quality than other tools. i trust it to work after accidental dropping it off a ladder

@AwesomeFramers

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter though if it blows your shoulders. Your body is more valuable than any power tool

@justbored3.14

11 ай бұрын

@@AwesomeFramers your right but i use it for quick jobs

That wear and tear takes a toll on you even from a few pounds.

Don’t forget to add the air compressor more cost oh the don’t forget if the house does not have electricity now you need a generator more cost more to move around. Humm things are adding up . I would go with the battery nailer .

@AwesomeFramers

2 жыл бұрын

interesting. Have you used this gun all day for weeks at a time?

@johnbailey9682

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeFramers I have a metabo framing gun 30 degree. Yes I have used it for about 5 months non stop helping friends. We normally start at 7,30 am and we try to be done at 3.30 in the afternoon but most of the time it’s 5,30 pm makes to be a long day . But I like the freedom of no othe stuff to bring . No hoses no air compressor no generator. Been there done that . I plan to get the milwaukee nail gun like the idea of adding an extension for the nails . But everyone has to make there own choices.

@AwesomeFramers

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbailey9682 I hear you. As a full time framer, the gun will without a doubt cause issues to the users body. I had that Metabo, good gun. I've settled on Paslode. Super light. No cords on our sights anymore for tools, just the hoses. So liberating 👍👍👍👍

Im confused about using 2in nails.

What else u weigh on dat scale

Massive fail on Milwaukee’s part haha you didn’t show one positive 🤣 did they give you this gun?

@AwesomeFramers

4 жыл бұрын

They did send me this gun to review for www.jlconline.com My review will be posted there soon where I go into the positives. I figured that there are a lot of reviews that go into that, so I limited it to the issue I had with the gun

@wilkinsoncarpentry6278

4 жыл бұрын

AwesomeFramers yes and I respect that you don’t just say what everyone wants to hear , there’s no way I’d carry that around allday on my hip..... not saying I wouldn’t buy one , like you said , no way you can frame allday above your shoulders

😂 you are right, I'm switching back pneumatic gun

Trips over hose and falls off roof LOL .

It’s not the weight for me as much as the annoyance of dragging a stupid hose around and getting tangled on rafters and stuff, I can handle a few extra pounds

Paslode is the best 👍👍 .

@richey761

4 жыл бұрын

You have not used the milwaukee clearly

@hhprogressiveconstruction1140

4 жыл бұрын

Diorama Jedi sure send me one for free otherwise I’m not carrying around a boat anchor .

@richey761

4 жыл бұрын

@@hhprogressiveconstruction1140 I have one and it is like firing nails on 10 bar pressure. We are in a heavy game complaining about a few extra pounds seems a little strange to me .I have not replied for an argument but if you get the chance to fire one give it a go

I love Milwaukee Tools but they just need to do better with nail capacity

Weigh the compressor if you're going to weigh the batteries.

@TimUhler1977

3 жыл бұрын

Why? That seems foolish, I don't carry it all day. In fact I leave it in the van and run hoses from it.

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